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| [[Gravekeeper's Assailant]]
| Switch monster position, high attack but low defense are weak against Able to kill most monsters due to iteffect, if you are playing a mirror match assailant can't kill each other barring [[Stardust Dragon]]. Recomended to run 3.
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| [[Gravekeeper's Chief]]
| It can be useful but the side effect is that people can take or target card from graveyard, slow compared to other gravekeeper monsters, due to requiring a turn to set up.
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| [[Gravekeeper's Commandant]]
| Get NecroVally [[Necrovalley]] right away, high Highest attack plus the necrovally, and high def plus itof any 4 star [[Gravekeeper]].
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| [[Gravekeeper's Descendant]]
| unlimited tribute, able Able to destroy every kind of any cardon the field, easy to summon, easy to search, recomened to runn 3
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| [[Gravekeeper's Guard]]
| Just for defense and bounce your opponent's face-up monster back to the hand, the deck with the biggest disadvantage to this card's effect is GBs. Usually better in non-pure Gravekeepers.
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| [[Gravekeeper's Priestess]]
| Not required, but can be used as necrovally, gain 200 atk and def for last resort, can use royal tribute Necrovally on the off-chance an opponent is using [[Burning Land]]/[[Closed Forest]].
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| [[Gravekeeper's Recruiter]]
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| [[Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier]]
| slow and only does pierce damage so you don't really need to play itA decent beatstick, if you can't find any other card to put with [[Piercing]], however, outclassed by many cards in the deck then just add onearchtype.
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| [[Gravekeeper's Spy]]
| Recomended 3 for in every deck. Has a high defDef, able to search out a any gravekeeper right away, and easily use descendant& combos well with [[Gravekeeper's effectDescendant]].
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| [[Gravekeeper's Visionary]]
| itIt's gooda strong, one tribute with gravekeepers gain an effect to increase both attack but and survivabilty, however it's bad if that was the only is outclassed due to requiring a tribute, when summoning an additionally monster you have in your handwill usually add more attack power.
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| [[Thunder King Rai-Oh]]
| Slows down opposing decks, while being strong in itself, stops Synchro monsters. However, using it prevents the use of [[Gravekeeper's Recruiter]]. recommended in side-deck if you add this try to take out one or two recruiter
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| [[dark Malefic Cyber End Dragon]]| Sometimes used for a large beatstick, with easy summoning requirments.|-| [[Malefic Stardust Dragon]]| Can be summoned easily, and is able to protect [[Necrovalley]].|-| [[Dark World]]
| Due to them activating in the grave, they are unaffected by [[Necrovalley]], and in addition, they activate when discarded by [[Royal Tribute]] leading to potential combos. For more information, click ->[[Dark World|Here]]<-
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! colspan=2 |Extra Deck <!-- This is not an exact Decklist. Do not add multiples or staples.-->
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| [[Ancient Fairy Dragon]]
| If used against an opposing deck which uses field spells, this allows the destruction of theirs, to search for yours.
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| [[Tempest Magician]]
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| [[Necrovalley]]
| required Required in every gravekeeper deck , to enable effects, as well as a large ATK & DEF bonus, not to mention it seals the graveyard.
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| [[Gravekeeper's Stele]]
| if you top deck this and your opponent about to lose and have no card on field then you win and it a great support+1 with a wide selection of targets, as the situation demands.
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| [[Royal Tribute]]
| discard Discards all monster and , which often leaves your opponent will have in a huge disadvantage vulnarable position.
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| [[Solidarity]]
| If the deck is entirely [[Spellcaster]] monsters, this provides a constant strong attack boost, which can enable use of [[Virus Card]]s even if [[Necrovalley]] is destroyed but there is really no point to add this card
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| [[SpellPot of Duality]]| CommentWhile considered a [[Staple]], it works most prominently in decks such as Gravekeeper's which have limited special summons.
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| [[SpellWave-Motion Cannon]]| CommentUsed in some builds due to the control the deck gives.
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! colspan=2 |Traps <!-- This is not an exact Decklist. Do not add multiples or staples.-->
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| [[Rite of Spirit]]
| add if you can't find any card A [[Call of the Haunted]] which is unaffected by [[Necrovalley]], not usually ran due to addits speed.
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| [[Deck Devastation Virus]]
| By tributing a [[Gravekeeper's|Gravekeeper]], under the effect of [[Necrovalley]], or [[Solidarity]], this can clear the opponents field & hand of weak monsters, such as tuners, for the next 3 turns.
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| [[TrapRoyal Oppression]]| CommentDue to the majority of special summons being during the [[Damage Step]] due to Gravekeeper's Spy, this card works well to counter many decks with the ability to quickly special summon
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of course, i just edited all the stuff off this one so cbb right this second,-[[User:Resk|Resk]] ([[User talk:Resk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Resk|contribs]]) 20:45, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
 
I would suggest adding [[Magician of Faith]] as a card to bring back Necrovalley in the case where it is destroyed. Even with all the protection of Necrovalley, they can fail occasionally.I'd suggest using 2 in the deck, because you generally don't need it often enough for 3, but using 1, it wouldn't show up when you need it. I know this could be considered a staple, but I feel it is especially important for this deck. [[User:Zombiedude347|Zombiedude347]] ([[User talk:Zombiedude347|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zombiedude347|contribs]]) 14:09, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
== Necrovalley Anti-Meta ==
*[[Gravekeeper's Visionary]] - The "major" of any Gravekeeper Deck. He is easy to Summon and is able to overpower the Duel fiel with ease
*[[Doomcaliber Knight]] - Is able to take down any stronger [[Nomi]] monster, such as DAD or [[Judgment Dragon]], making the Duel nothing harder for you
*[[Legendary Jujitsu Master]] - This is no Gravekeeper monster, but is a [[Semi-Staple]] at [[Anti-Meta]] Decks. He might belong to the Side of this Deck. Is indeed a counter against GB Decks.
*[[Plaguespreader Zombie]] - His self-revival effect is unaffected by [[Necrovalley]], then it'll be a key for a Synchro Summon
*[[Dark World]] - They have an objection with [[Necrovalley]] since their effects do NOT target the grave, and yes, activate into there, thus getting a significant advantage
*[[Necrovalley]] - Logically the key card of a [[Gravekeeper's]] Deck, increasing their ATK and DEF and preventing targetin and removal card from the grave.
*[[Gravekeeper's Servant]] - Has a splashable combo with [[Dimension Fortress Weapon]], being able to cause a lock even in this Deck. At a mirror match, this would grant a great edge
*[[Royal Tribute]] - This is a trump card, granting firld control while making your opponent discard their entire hand of monsters
*[[Wave-Motion Cannon]] - Try to [[Stall]] your opponent while you wait for 8 turns to deal a severe damage and win the Duel instantly
*[[Magical Blast]] - Since this Archetype is entirely Spellcasters, this card is nice to deal severe damage if you control many Gravekeeper's. You may retrieve it from the grave to reuse it, but remember you must draw to progress.
Traps:
*[[Rite of Spirit]] - Acts as a costless [[Premature Burial]] for this kind of Deck, since [[Necrovalley]] forbids ressurrection, this should somewhat be useful
*[[Mask of Restrict]] - [[Monarchs]] cannot contend with this kind of Deck with their effects. The only backfire is that you cannot use [[Gravekeeper's Descendant]]'s effect with this card active.
*[[Magical Explosion]] - Firstly designated for [[Magical Explosion FTK]], but thanks to the Spell usage, you might blow up your opponent sharply.
* You know, dudes, I absolutely disagree with the theories given by Nobody! He removed [[Rite of Spirit]] and [[Judgment of Anubis]], just thinking those cards are irrelevant. However, I do not think [[Ancient Fairy Dragon]] would be a support, as this is a bit pointless. But those two cards are [[Semi-Staple]]s at Gravekeeper's Decks. The first acts as a [[Premature Burial]] for this Deck, what should be a lucky sign, as this Deck prevents contact with the grave, and the latter protects [[Necrovalley]] as a Counter Trap, like you've been using a [[Solemn Judgment]]/[[Dark Bribe]], and as an advantage, destroys a monster to inflict damage. And on, he dares remove [[Gravekeeper's Servant]], either! This card's lock is [[splashable]], despite it belongs to this Archetype, combo it with [[Dimension Fortress Weapon]] to keep your opponent from [[Mill]]ing your Deck and forfeit their Battle Phase. This is my opinion against the "Edit warring". --idiota3000 17:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC) Duelmaster3000
 
* Like I've told you before, [[Rite of Spirit]] and [[Judgment of Anubis]] should NOT be removed completely from this page. [[Rite of Spirit]] is indeed becoming unpopular due to the releasing of [[Gravekeeper's Stele]], but it allows a Special Summon, unlike the Stele, besides of top-decking this card for extra Summons of Gravekeeper's monsters. Now [[Judgment of Anubis]] is logically outclassed by [[Malefic Stardust Dragon]], but is a Counter Trap, and grants emergencial negativity in order to protect [[Necrovalley]]. If you ain't got no [[Malefic Stardust Dragon]] in play, you might use this card to negate a destroying Spell and decimating your opponent even more with an extra effect. I get really upset with that "edit warring", and this article should never be manipulated by a noob that defies other Duelists!
 
::Simply because [[Gravekeeper's Servant]] has "Gravekeeper's" in it's name, doesn't mean it belongs on this particular page. Put it in the [[Stall]] page, [[Lockdown]] page, or something like that if you feel so strongly about those particular cards. The issue with them is that they essentially would require you to build your deck around them, instead of Necrovalley and Gravekeeper's Descendent, like most current Gravekeeper's builds are. In addition, if your opponent wants to mill your deck, with Necrovalley active, it's pointless for them to do so. As for [[Judgment of Anubis]], I've pushed for them once, and got overruled, so there is really no chance of winning that debate right now. Second, while I would agree with you that [[Rite of Spirit]] can do things for a Gravekeeper's deck that [[Gravekeeper's Stele]] cannot; again, I have already pushed for it's inclusion and been overruled. There is no sense getting angry over it; the argument is already over. [[User:Jon Kovacs|Jon Kovacs]] ([[User talk:Jon Kovacs|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jon Kovacs|contribs]]) 21:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
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== Gravekeeper Burn... ==
 
* I know there's a discussion for it above, but it didn't really seem like it was discussed properly and just added for the sake of it. I really don't understand the concept of this at all. What makes Gravekeeper's better at utilizing Burn than other Burn variants? So much so that it should be mentioned on this page? This is an extremely obscure variant, even if it can be justified as viable, and I believe it should be removed.--[[User:YamiWheeler|YamiWheeler]] ([[User talk:YamiWheeler|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/YamiWheeler|contribs]]) 13:27, July 13, 2011 (UTC)
 
== Gravekeeper's in ZEXAL? ==
 
I noticed that the page says that Gravekeeper's appear during Zexal, but I can find no other information on that. Could somebody on here tell me when and where do they appear either in the Manga or Anime?
 
--[[Special:Contributions/24.126.101.32|24.126.101.32]] ([[User talk:24.126.101.32|talk]]) 18:37, September 9, 2011 (UTC)RandomAnon
 
:Shark's opponent in his flashbacks during [[Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Episode 012|episode 12]] drops "[[Gravekeeper's Descendant]]". [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 20:17, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
== WRONG Article Name ==
 
It's GRAVEKEEPERS people, not GRAVEKEEPER'S. An apostrophe indicates ownership/possession of an entity that follows the noun being used. Gravekeeper's is not a figurative entity in itself, it is a QUALIFIER. You can't refer to something as just "Gravekeeper's". Even the card names are grammatically incorrect because the use of the letter "s" at the end of a noun object changes its mass qualification (a single entity as opposed to multiple entities), it necessitates that the apostrophe FOLLOWS it.--{{unsigned|72.195.136.250}}
 
:It doesn't matter. Konami chose to be grammatically incorrect. Every card uses "Gravekeeper's". Ergo, we also use "Gravekeeper's". [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 02:25, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
::The term "Gravekeeper's" is used by Konami to represent a story that was heard by the writers while creating Yami's back story and his confrontation with Marik. The story is basically a single man is chosen to protect the Pharaohs' Graves sites (usually known as pyramids, but latter were other types of memorials). This man was the head of a group in Egypt that would specifically help in protecting the grave sites from damage and would hunt down and brutally kill grave robbers. This person's title? Gravekeeper. So this archetype is a creation of characters that the Gravekeeper would have as employees. As such, "Gravekeeper's ___". --[[User:LordGeovanni|<span style="color:green;">LordGeovanni</span>]]- <span style="color:green;">([[User_talk:LordGeovanni|<span style="color:green;">Talk To Me</span>]]) *Kupo*</span> 04:13, March 29, 2012 (UTC) (P.S. I love history :P)
 
The apostrophe S does show ownership. So the Gravekeeper's cards include the Chief, or Recruiter, for example, of the (unnamed and unseen) Gravekeeper. The ownership more applies as loyality/employment/status. [[User:Djjomon|Djjomon]] ([[User talk:Djjomon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djjomon|contribs]]) 04:19, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
* It clearly seems to be shorthand for, for example, "Recruiter of the [Gravekeeper]s." As we're aware that Gravekeepers are an archetype, it wouldn't be a massive leap of faith to assume they are organized in the world of Yu-Gi-Oh!, making it easily possible that it could also be shorthand for "Recruiter of the Gravekeeper [Clan]", for example. Point is, the name is fine. And for the record, we care more how Konami wants it than how one little anon seems to want it.--[[User:YamiWheeler|YamiWheeler]] ([[User talk:YamiWheeler|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/YamiWheeler|contribs]]) 05:00, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
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