Forum:"Numbers" Xyz Monster Trivia

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This page was formed after the discussion at Forum:Restore Numbers trivia, and includes a table of all unconfirmed trivia regarding the Numbers Xyz Monsters and how they possibly received their respective numbers. The trivia found here should not be moved to the official card trivia pages, unless it's a special case.

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IMO, puns and meta-references within the numbers' origins are fair game, but the "san kyu = thank you" line of trivia seems a tad far-fetched. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 14:03, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

That was an example I posted, and I ripped it straight from the Card Trivia page of Number 39: Utopia. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 14:13, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
I should also remove that piece of trivia, since it was moved here. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 14:14, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
There, it's done. Every last reference, allusion, deep meaning, reflection, pronounciation, numerology, value and trivia I could find and/or think of for all the Numbers in existence so far, excluding fanmade.--Hawk00Refferencer (talkcontribs) 19:01, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Just a random thought. Note the digits of each Legendary Number revealed so far. 44, 65, 54, 46, 64, 73. Note that the digits of the first 5 (Representing Durbe, Vector, Alit, Misael, and Gilag Respectively) contain only the digits 4, 5, and 6. Note, also, that Vector's Number, (65) is the only one in the first 5 that does NOT contain a 4. Note also that Vector's past, so far is the only one who was truly evil. Also, note Number 73 in comparison to this. It is the only one revealed so far that deviates from the 4, 5, 6 trend, and since the numbers IN the trend represent Barians who did NOT disappear, I can only assume the last Legendary Number is 37. Given that the last Legendary Number revealed (73) represents a barian that DID disapear. The last one ALSO must represent a Barian that disappeared, and it would only make sense for the digits of the first disappeared Barian to be switched with the digits of the second disappeared Barian. Just speculation, but I think that it is feasible. (talk) 19:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

My theory was that all of the Legendary Number Monsters are apart of some Golden Neumeral read backwards and the last number apart of the Legendary Number Arc is going to be an over-hundred number, that way you get the Golden Neumerals and the over hundred makes a decimal number at the end. Of course, I checked both Pi and Phi and both do not have the numbers. Pi was close though. You could almost hop numbers and get the Legendary Numbers themselves. Well I just want to raise a possibility. (talk) 15:49, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, that's one interesting research, but how about the seventh guardian? C'mon, can you do some more research to get the specify Number before that showed up? --IFredCat 20:21, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I couldn't have done more research, I have no idea what the 7th Guardian will be, I just saw a pattern in the Numbering of the Legendary Numbers, and saw that pattern continued with most of the Barians up until 73, then I saw more patterns, but I can't truly PREDICT anything, if it goes with the Dissappeared Barian trend, it will be 37, because those are the Numbers on the ends of the 4-6 trend, and 73 is taken. If it follows the Normal Trend, it will be 55 or 45, looking closer at 45, though because all the other Barians who fall into this trend with the exception of Vector have a 4 in the number. Just a thought. (talk) 22:46, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Gilag has further validated my "Past makes Legendary number" theory. Hmm...Maybe I was wrong about the "Good guy" while they were good, but I think another also explains it. Also, I think I can also determine what the others were.

4= Legendary

5= Lived very Violently

6= Betrayer/was betrayed.

44: Legendary knight, legendary steed, therefore the double 4

46: Was a Legendary Dragon tamer, was betrayed by the people.

54: A legendary Gladiator, lived violently

64: A legendary warrior, appeared to betray his friend while trying to keep him safe.

65: Betrayed his people and killed them all.

I am not totally sure about this, for the main reason being Gilag. He was a legendary warrior, so why does it not have a 5? He never really betrayed Ponto, so why the 6? (talk) 21:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Eh, one thing: "6= Betrayer/was betrayed." - "44: Legendary knight, legendary steed, therefore the double 4" - the legendary knight was also betrayed by the other knights, and by extension I think it is fair to say that Mach was as well - perhaps not but regardless, thus far it seem to me that all of the legends involve betrayal, whether perceived or otherwise, generally though just unhappy stories aha
Although on a different note I am thinking/hoping that 73 is Shark(/Nasch)s, just because it would fit more with him being water rather than Ice which is more Rios theme - and that Rio will get/have/be connected to (Merag) 37 just because the 7 & or 3 seems to be a lot further disconnected to the other legendary numbers :3 - so there is my grasping at straws aha XD Sardeth42 (talkcontribs) 06:52, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

good point. Maybe 6 means something else. (talk) 16:09, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't Durbe betrayed

yes -- Sardeth42 (talkcontribs) 11:08, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

I know, that's why I think 6 means something else. NOW! With the reveal of Number 9(insert second digit) We can see that this clearly deviates from the Barian standard, or even a disappeared barian standard. Which means SOMETHING must be up with this new Number... I would think it would be the flip of 65, but flipped over it's 92, which has already been taken. 95, MAYBE. I wouldn't discount 90 or 99 either. But something is definetly odd about these numbers. (talk) 20:16, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Number 96: Dark Mist, Number 92: Heart-eartH Dragon, Number 91: Thunder Spark Dragon (Manga) are all 9X number occurred. Therefore out of ten 9X Numbers, only 3 are taken. 90, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 99 are yet to be using. So following the above explanation, the best chance to naming the Number would be 95 because Rio's previous incarnation suffered the violent view in the past, base on my knowledge. --IFredCat 20:20, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

(Should I start a new section?) Um, I don't really think that any Number's number is chosen after its Rank or number of needed materials. Seriously. That's quite a poor excuse. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 23:47, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, now you're being a troll. If anything, ranks and materials needed seem to be the best reason since they're the most obvious. Not a strong reason, but an obvious one.--Hawk00Refferencer (talkcontribs) 07:33, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not being a troll, I'm saying it purely and honestly. Kuwabara said that the Numbers' numbers are chosen "carefully with attention to details, so that [fans] can enjoy it in various places". Check Number 44's explanations, for example. The 1st two are pretty valid and good reasons to explain the number; then, a 3rd one comes saying that "it is Number 44 because it needs two Level 4 monsters". That spits in the face of the two 1st reasons. Also, this is contradictory: some say that, for example, a monster is number 44 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (hence, two "4"), while others say that, for example, a monster is number 8 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (2 x 4 = 8), and still, others say that a monster is number 53 'cause it needs 3 LV 5 monsters (putting both together, 53). Each follow a different logic which contradict each other. Number 15's "15 may be reflected by how this monster has 1500 ATK." is wonderfully ridiculous, by the way. Seriously, look at awesome explanations like Galaxy Tomahawk's, Zombiestein's and Galaxy Queen's, for example, and tell me that trying to justify a number by the monster's Rank isn't stupid. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 22:13, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
I think he meant by this, Asari. --IFredCat 22:23, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

My friend, there are so many numbers which support the fact that SOME numbers are made by rank, and/or number of materials, and/or ATK/DEF at least, it does share it.

6,7,8,9(I have no doubt about this one),15,30,44,49,53,56,74,88,92.

Now, some ranks might have been made to match the number (Like 6,7,and 9 which I am sure of) But there is some merit to both sides. (talk) 00:09, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

But that's something way too vague. The one-digit numbers go from 0 to 9 - it's 10 numbers. Among the 100 Numbers (91 with 2 digits by the way), if a Number happens to have its number somehow matching its Rank or anything by far isn't something strange, that's actually bound to happen with so many Numbers. As I said previously, there are many Numbers with deep/intelligent reasons for its number. If there weren't, I would say that perhaps a superficial thing as its Rank could be valid, but after seeing those well elaborated reasons, I can't agree. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 00:14, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I believe I understand the basis of your argument. However, we cannot exclude the fact that, while the initial choice of the number was to represent a certain theme, the ultimate design of the card in reference to it's rank, materials, ATK, DEF or effect might have been added in order to reflect the Number as well. Ever heard of the expression "Those who are looking for 23 will find it"? Same thing, we're mentioning as much references as possible. We might be able to find the ideas behind each Number, but not the order in which they were conceived.--Hawk00Refferencer (talkcontribs) 06:17, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
I understand your point, but I personally think that the reasons beside a Number's number refers to the monster itself, not to the OCG card (once more, mainly considering the deep/elaborate explanations I mentioned before). As a side note, sorry, I haven't heard that expression, I'm Brazilian. :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 16:18, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
Most of that are on Trivia articles, the article here is for randomly, unimportantly trivial, my friend. --IFredCat 16:26, June 18, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, please let us not bring up the subject of trivia and triviality again.--Hawk00Refferencer (talkcontribs) 19:25, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hey guys, everyone had said that the last Legendary Number might be 37, but I guessed 95 because 9+5=14 which is equivalent to Rio's age (14 years old). But the last Legendaru turned out to be 94, so I was really really close! Rubi1998 (talkcontribs) 10:08, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Should we include the fact some "Numbers" have the equal number of letters in their name? So far I encountered 87 (Queen of the Night = 15), 54 (Lion (4) Heart (5)) and 83 (Galaxy Queen (6+5=8+3=11)). Energy X 22:38, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Well there are certainly many things in the table with a bit more steps to get a connection so I think that is perfectly fine to add in. Sardeth42 (talkcontribs) 00:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

I believe that the reason "Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon" has a number of 62 is that "62", when turned upside down, resembles "39", a la "Number 39: Utopia". And I think Kite Tenjo, the owner of "Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon", is now siding along Yuma Tsukumo. Right? --Yes, it's PSYCHID! He talks! He does stuff! 03:04, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Can't edit card's trivia page so I'll just post it here. It's pretty obvious that the "Prime" in "Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon" is Prime Number. You know, Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon. Lanzermon (talkcontribs) 09:47, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

  • facepalms* Lanzermon, do you have any idea what a Prime Number is? 62 is NOT a Prime Number in mathematics; it can be divided by 2 and 31 in addition to 1 and 62. No even Number is EVER a prime number. Maybe it's an important number, but it's not a prime number in that sense. This trivia point would not be correct whatsoever. Aeron Solo wuz here (If you wanna talk) 19:25, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

How about this for "Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon" if you look on the Number's page it says we have seen a total of 62 numbers, might mean something. --LeafGreen Ranger (talkcontribs) 19:20, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

Moving from the Trivia section of Number 11: Big Eye, since it fits better here: "In Numerology, the Number 11 is one of the strongest numbers, holding great Spiritual Powers and awareness of the paranormal." Lord Grammaticus 09:24, February 17, 2014 (UTC)

Just a suggestion about Abyss Splash: If I remember correctly, "nami" also can mean "tears" in Japanese. Considering the entire identity crisis Shark/Nash was going through when he obtained Abyss Splash up to living through his past life, it seems somewhat appropriate, no?A Shining Star appeared!! (Make a Wish) 22:51, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

For Number 7 Lucky Straight the number 7 appears seven times on the card. Name, Rank, Atk, Def, Levels required to summon it, the effects that involve the 700 its attack is multiplied by and the dice result adding up to 7. Diceroll7 27-11-14 ⁓⁓⁓⁓

For Number 24: Dragon Nosferatu Dragulas, if you read 2 as "fu" and 4 as "shi", you get "fushi", meaning "immortal", possibly referring to its nature as a nosferatu as well as its effect. --QuartrGuy (talkcontribs) 22:58, May 12, 2016 (UTC)


So, when all the "Numbers" have been revealed, what will become of this list? Will we put those trivia notes in the respective pages or will it simply stay here? Energy X 00:10, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

The notes will remain here until properly confirmed. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 03:05, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
But, who will confirm them? In addition, when will they be confirmed? Energy X 23:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, who will confirm them? You're not going to send it to Konami and ask them to confirm it huh? Or do you expect the official site to confirm these trivia for you? It's like a bunch of paranoid beings stuck in the same cave. Expect these to stay here forever, I suggest that no one add anymore details into it because it will not be made known.Samhiuy (talkcontribs) 02:43, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
They probably will stay here for a long time. Only obvious things about the numbers is part of the actual wiki trivia pages. Namely, for cards like Number 7: Lucky Straight (We know #7 is a lucky number...). But this forum page is the only way for those of you who are interested to share your trivia, and it's the only solution we have to your issue. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 13:45, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
There's no need to move this. This list is not actual information and is not important regarding neither the series nor the OCG/TCG. It's just a list of trivial curiosities. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 02:15, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

Number 95 Trivia?[edit]

Sorry to be rude putting this Trivia down here but I am putting it here just in case I am wrong from my research

If you Subtract the monsters digits (9-5), you will get 4. This is the 4th Number used by Kaito in the Manga (10,13, 20, 95)19:48, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

But including Galaxy Eyes Full Armor Photon Dragon, it is the 5th Xyz Monster. Energy X 19:53, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

That is true. That`s why I wanted to put this down since I didn`t want to put incorrect info, but I did go and check and yes this is Officially his 4th Number usedRoxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 19:55, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Are we still going with this obviously wrong trivias? You can ALWAYS find a coincidence number adding, subtracting, mulitplying, dividing or doing whatever with the Number's digits, you'll always find a number that has to do with the Number in some way, but that's obviously not the reason behind the Number's number. Sorry for being rude, but I tried explaining this lots of times, and yet we still have this bullshit in 90% of the Numbers's trivia. *__* LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 19:58, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Im sorry....This Info just came out and I was looking for any reasons its number 95...besides some research made about dark matter in 1995 which I did not want to say since the months were different each time I checked...that was the only odd thing I found. I apologize dearly for angering you. I just liked the numbers trivia...Roxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 20:02, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm not angry, it's just exhausting to keep repeating this and not be listened to. You said there's research made about dark matter in 1995? You see, this is what I'm talking about. This is a valid reason behind Number 95's Number, great found. I don't get why people don't understand this, as if the producers would go like "so this Number is used in episode 10, let's make it Number 46 because 4 + 6 = 10, which's the episode it appears". LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 20:08, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Actually while looking up dark matter 1995 I found this quote further measurements showed that dark matter is the dominate form of matter in the Universe, up to 95% of the Universe is composed of dark matter, yet its identification has eluded us

Heres where I found that quote [1]Roxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 20:16, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I found 2 key informations regarding dark matter say "95%" in the wikipedia and added both to the list. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 20:20, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

DO you think they space the numbers like that just to be like little easter eggs and not actual trivia?Roxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 20:23, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Also I just realized something terrifying.... If you flip over the 9 and the 5, You get 62. Kaito`s Ace anime monster. Which by reversing Number 62`s attribute from LIGHT to DARK. Just a warning before someone else puts it and pisses you offRoxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 20:38, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't even follow this list since I know 90% of what's added is bullshit. And to be honest, the Prime Photon Dragon thing is actually a nice explanation too; you can consider it and Dark Matter Dragon as opposites. Making Kaito's manga Number the opposite of his anime Number may be intentional. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 21:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Should we delete this section since we got what needed t be done?Roxasofmalice (talkcontribs) 00:09, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Better to keep it as an archived discussion showing how the conclusions (or lack thereof) were reached. --Gadjiltron (talkcontribs) 03:26, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Number 95: 9+5 = 14, relates to how Kaito got the number from Kyoiji. Diceroll7(⁓⁓⁓⁓)

Number 1000 Trivia[edit]

  • The number maybe can be a reference to the original owner. Don Thousand, number thousand.
  • Also is the highest number of all, reference of the fact of this number (a least his chaos form) have a lot of effects (at least five effects) and are summoned whit the highest amount of monsters possible
  • The number 1000 have four digits, reference of don thousand creates four fake numbers and uses four gates of numeron in his duel whit Yuma and Nasch.
    • Also references to vector number:104
  • If you sum the value of all other numbers, you got 5778 (pronounced five thousand seven hundred seventy-eight)
    • 5: The number of numbers summoned before of this card
    • 7: 7 emperors, 7 Legendary numbers, 7 Over hundred numbers
    • 8: Number of barian characters (don thousand + the emperors) also the number of barian origin numbers (number 101,102,103,104,105,106,107 and 1000)

--Dragonempeorslayer (talkcontribs) 14:10, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

A Note on 39 and Others[edit]

Just popping by to note a few things:

  • Other sources seem to have noticed that if you write the word "HOPE" backwards you get "ƎԳOH" which can be interpreted as "39 OH" or "39 ō(皇)," giving "Number 39: Kibō'ō Hope".
  • Also, this is obvious but I haven't seen it being directly stated: Kite's surname, Tenjō, has "ten" in it, explaining his connection to the Numbers that are multiples of ten. It's not news but it should be mentioned somewhere. This pun is also similar to what Fubuki did in GX by writing his surname, Tenjōin, as "10 Join."
  • The original numbers that contained Don Thousand's powers (80, 58, and 43) all had something to do with Numbers becoming equip cards for Xyz monsters (80 and 58 became equip cards themselves, and 43 equipped a Number to itself. As all wielders primarily used Numbers, the Numbers were always equipped to Numbers.). This is speculative but it seems to be symbolic of how Don Thousand is controlling the wielders.
  • Not sure where this should be mentioned, but the Ranks of Kyoji's eight blank Numbers were consecutive. The order in which they debuted also was consecutive, if I am not mistaken.
    • Number 70 was Rank 4.
    • Number 14 was Rank 5.
    • Number 21 was Rank 6.
    • Number 28 was Rank 7.
    • Number 23 was Rank 8.
    • Number 95 was Rank 9.
    • Number 35 was Rank 10.
    • Number 84 was Rank 11. --GoDai (talkcontribs) 07:16, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

Also each Kyiji number (not all) represents a sin:

Noticed something[edit]

This monster has the wings of Black-Winged Dragon or is it just me? take a look at its artwork closely, and compare it to the Synchro Monster.

~~Chadook (talkcontribs)FTON (talkcontribs) 18:03, May 25, 2015 (UTC)