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[[By Order of the Emperor]] against Monarchs.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 14:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
[[By Order of the Emperor]] against Monarchs.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 14:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
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[[Fiendish Chain]] and most [[Koa'ki Meiru]] cards can cripple almost any deck --[[User:Azure Knight-Zeo|Azure Knight-Zeo]] 20:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
  
 
== Would like to see counter frog stradegys up there ==
 
== Would like to see counter frog stradegys up there ==

Revision as of 20:18, 29 April 2010



List of cards to side in to cripple meta decks

> means can potentially cripple the deck, - means can work against.

Infernity

> Consecrated Light
> Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror
> Archlord Kristya
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
- Effect Veiler
- D.D. Crow
- Big Burn
- Swallow Flip
- Prohibition
- Exile of the Wicked

Blackwing

- Consecrated Light
- Trap Hole
- Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn
- Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror

Gladiator Beasts

> Archlord Kristya
> Royal Oppression
> Corridor of Suffering
- Skill Drain
- Swallow Flip
- Mirror of Oaths
- Legendary Jujitsu Master
- Prohibition
- D.D. Warrior Lady

Flamvell Cat Synchro

> Archlord Kristya
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
> Rivalry of Warlords

X-Saber

> Archlord Kristya
> Royal Oppression
- Ancient Forest
- Macro Cosmos
- Dimensional Fissure
- Prohibition
- Gottoms' Emergency Call

Lightlord

> Royal Oppression
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
- D.D. Crow
- Big Burn
- Soul Release

Plants

> Archlord Kristya
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
> Zombie World
- Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
- D.D. Crow
- Big Burn

Quickdraw Plants

> King Tiger Wanghu
> Royal Oppression
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
> Zombie World

Gadgets

> Skill Drain
- King Tiger Wanghu
- Deck Devastation Virus
- Thunder King Rai-Oh
- System Down

Monarchs

> By Order of the Emperor
> Skill Drain
> Zombie World
> Mask of Restrict
- Pulling the Rug
- Intercept

Zombies

> Archlord Kristya
> Macro Cosmos
> Dimensional Fissure
- Consecrated Light
- Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
- D.D. Crow
- Big Burn
- Book of Life

List of cards to side in to cripple Common Themed decks
Disaster Dragon or Hopeless Dragon

> Zombie World
- Grave of the Super Ancient Organism
- Macro Cosmos
- Dimensional Fissure
- Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
- Archlord Kristya

Frogs

> King Tiger Wanghu (assuming it's the Synchro build, not the Solid/Wetlands build)
> Royal Oppression
> Skill Drain

Six Samurai

> Gozen Match
- Warrior Elimination

Fish Synchro OTK

> Royal Oppression
- Eternal Drought (OCG Only)

  • This is based on the General/Basic builds of each deck.
  • Also taking into account of the cards run in those decks (e.g. Gadgets run lots of Fissures and Smashing Grounds, so Thunder King Rai-Oh will not Cripple the deck). However, this does not take into account of the opponent's Side Decks (e.g. ignores 3 Dust Tornados in their Side Deck).
  • If anyone would like to add (e.g. cards or top tier decks) or change things (e.g. move cards from cripple to works against) please post the ideas below. Falzar FZ 12:31, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
Make sure to add Consecrated Light to the Zombie pile, and Mirror of Oaths, Jujitsu Master, and D.D. Warrior Lady to GBs. -bewk 23:07, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
I would not say that Zombies are crippled by Consecrated Light. Just summon Pyramid Turtle and poof. 67.101.29.130 02:20, April 28, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
Yea, my thoughts were all the Earth monsters in Zombies, so I didn't put it there. I'll add it to the "can work against" section though, and a few other things. Falzar FZ 05:51, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Monarchs are vunrable to Intercept, Monarchs & Disaster Dragon / Hopeless Dragon are vunrable to Zombie World, Zombies are annoyed by Book of Life / Zombie Master & Lightsworns are weak to Light-Imprisoning Mirror-RESK-193.62.251.50 12:54, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror against Blackwings and Infernities and there are people that side deck Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn against Blackwings.--Hide Head Turtle 13:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

- For Intercept, they get to choose the targets for the effects first, but it still works since they lose the monster and you keep their monster.
> Zombie World owns REDMD so I suppose that cripples the deck.
- Book of Life is a bit situational, unless you have a Plague in your grave or if Zombie World is in play. Afterwards, it removes a Zombie so it works against them I guess.
Zombie Master just lets you grab more monsters, not much more than that, unless I missed something.
>, - For SIM, taking into account of those Icarus, etc. wait, that means Holy Light goes down to - as well.
- I've seen that done as well, since Sirroco powers up using the opponent's BWs.
Falzar FZ 13:56, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

By Order of the Emperor against Monarchs.--Hide Head Turtle 14:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fiendish Chain and most Koa'ki Meiru cards can cripple almost any deck --Azure Knight-Zeo 20:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Would like to see counter frog stradegys up there

Don't know how hot they will be but the potential is defninatly there for someone to create something wicked stupid with it.

I know that due to there special summoning mechanism alot of anti GB cards would be effective like Mirror of Oaths and along with the corridor card.

Don't know if there are really many cards that punish small monsters. Theres a few dragon ones but there really only usable if you have dragons. Steelfallenangel 21:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add a new section then. Falzar FZ 06:20, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
Prohibition works vs most things, Infernity Archfiend/Catapult, Black Whirlwind, Gladiator Beast Bestiari, :Judgment Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, XX-Saber Faultroll....etc
Warrior Elimination-Six Sam, Exile of the Wicked-Infernity, Eternal Drought-Fish Sync OTK
Oh, and plants are weak to Zombie World as well (Pollinosis, Lord Poison, Gigaplant, Tytannial, Princess of Camellias)-213.123.215.233 12:09, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
ok, updated. (excluding Prohibition from BWs, LSs and X-Sabers from taking into account of the other cards in those decks) Falzar FZ 12:23, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Havnt tried this yet but The Gift of Greed may find some use agaisnt infernitys. Just don't know if letting your oppenent get two cards will be worth stopping a effect. Steelfallenangel 19:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dust Tornado should work against Infernities. Destroy Launcher as soon as it's activated, make your opponent a very sad person. Runer5h 19:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h