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[[Brain Golem]] against Lightlords.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 11:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC) | [[Brain Golem]] against Lightlords.--[[User:Hide Head Turtle|Hide Head Turtle]] 11:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC) | ||
| − | :You can add [[Banisher of the Light]], [[Banisher of the Radiance]], [[The Bistro Butcher]] | + | :You can add [[Banisher of the Light]], [[Banisher of the Radiance]], [[The Bistro Butcher]], [[Summon Limit]] and [[The Gift of Greed]] (which is chainable!) to the Infernities countering cards. [[User:Zeroblizzard|Zeroblizzard]] 12:04, May 1, 2010 (UTC)Zeroblizzard |
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- This is based on the General/Basic builds of each deck.
- Also taking into account of the cards run in those decks (e.g. Gadgets run lots of Fissures and Smashing Grounds, so Thunder King Rai-Oh will not Cripple the deck). However, this does not take into account of the opponent's Side Decks (e.g. ignores 3 Dust Tornados in their Side Deck).
- If anyone would like to add (e.g. cards or top tier decks) or change things (e.g. move cards from cripple to works against) please post the ideas below. Falzar FZ 12:31, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Make sure to add Consecrated Light to the Zombie pile, and Mirror of Oaths, Jujitsu Master, and D.D. Warrior Lady to GBs. -bewk 23:07, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
- I would not say that Zombies are crippled by Consecrated Light. Just summon Pyramid Turtle and poof. 67.101.29.130 02:20, April 28, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
- Yea, my thoughts were all the Earth monsters in Zombies, so I didn't put it there. I'll add it to the "can work against" section though, and a few other things. Falzar FZ 05:51, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Monarchs are vunrable to Intercept, Monarchs & Disaster Dragon / Hopeless Dragon are vunrable to Zombie World, Zombies are annoyed by Book of Life / Zombie Master & Lightsworns are weak to Light-Imprisoning Mirror-RESK-193.62.251.50 12:54, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror against Blackwings and Infernities and there are people that side deck Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn against Blackwings.--Hide Head Turtle 13:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
- - For Intercept, they get to choose the targets for the effects first, but it still works since they lose the monster and you keep their monster.
- > Zombie World owns REDMD so I suppose that cripples the deck.
- - Book of Life is a bit situational, unless you have a Plague in your grave or if Zombie World is in play. Afterwards, it removes a Zombie so it works against them I guess.
- Zombie Master just lets you grab more monsters, not much more than that, unless I missed something.
- >, - For SIM, taking into account of those Icarus, etc. wait, that means Holy Light goes down to - as well.
- - I've seen that done as well, since Sirroco powers up using the opponent's BWs.
- Falzar FZ 13:56, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
By Order of the Emperor against Monarchs.--Hide Head Turtle 14:43, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
Fiendish Chain and most Koa'ki Meiru cards can cripple almost any deck --Azure Knight-Zeo 20:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
Would like to see counter frog stradegys up there
Don't know how hot they will be but the potential is defninatly there for someone to create something wicked stupid with it.
I know that due to there special summoning mechanism alot of anti GB cards would be effective like Mirror of Oaths and along with the corridor card.
Don't know if there are really many cards that punish small monsters. Theres a few dragon ones but there really only usable if you have dragons. Steelfallenangel 21:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll add a new section then. Falzar FZ 06:20, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Prohibition works vs most things, Infernity Archfiend/Catapult, Black Whirlwind, Gladiator Beast Bestiari, :Judgment Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, XX-Saber Faultroll....etc
- Warrior Elimination-Six Sam, Exile of the Wicked-Infernity, Eternal Drought-Fish Sync OTK
- Oh, and plants are weak to Zombie World as well (Pollinosis, Lord Poison, Gigaplant, Tytannial, Princess of Camellias)-213.123.215.233 12:09, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- ok, updated. (excluding Prohibition from BWs, LSs and X-Sabers from taking into account of the other cards in those decks) Falzar FZ 12:23, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
Havnt tried this yet but The Gift of Greed may find some use agaisnt infernitys. Just don't know if letting your oppenent get two cards will be worth stopping a effect. Steelfallenangel 19:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Dust Tornado should work against Infernities. Destroy Launcher as soon as it's activated, make your opponent a very sad person. Runer5h 19:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h
Tualatin works against any Deck that only has a single attribute like Blackwings and Infernity.115.135.245.196 01:55, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Archlord Kristya basically stops anything that special summons. Since we already have her in the list, shouldn't we also include Cactus Bouncer?-Hide Head Turtle 02:59, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
- Instead of The Gift of Greed, I'll add Dark Bribe. It's makes them draw, and it Negates something.
- The ruling of "You cannot activate "Infernity Launcher" and simultaneously activate its effect." is odd, but it allows Dust Tornado to step in so that's a good idea.
- Tualatin would cripple Infernities, that is if they actually destroy your monsters by battle. Most of the time they Trish you first... multiple times, which is annoying. So I would add it to the - area.
- I'd say that Cactus Bouncer is a bit too situational, you'll need another plant monster on the field for the effect to work, your opponent must not normal summon a ≥1800 monster so they can destroy it by battle (assuming they don't already control one), and your opponent must not use cards like Smashing Ground.
- Falzar FZ 06:41, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Gotta say I really like this thread FZ. Really great work. I was gonna ask for something like this a while ago but wanted to have some better understand of the newer metas before i did. Very useful overall. Steelfallenangel 03:37, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
- You're actually the first one who used my preferred nickname here.
- NP. Falzar FZ 10:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Fixed your Dark Bribe link for ya ^^ 203.206.181.39 06:34, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Um... yea, ty.
- Falzar FZ 10:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Light-Imprisoning Mirror against Lightlords.--Hide Head Turtle 10:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
- I forgot to add that when it was mentioned above :P
- Falzar FZ 10:27, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Brain Golem against Lightlords.--Hide Head Turtle 11:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
- You can add Banisher of the Light, Banisher of the Radiance, The Bistro Butcher, Summon Limit and The Gift of Greed (which is chainable!) to the Infernities countering cards. Zeroblizzard 12:04, May 1, 2010 (UTC)Zeroblizzard
