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− | This page was formed after the discussion at [[Forum:Restore Numbers trivia]], and includes a table of all unconfirmed trivia regarding the [[Numbers]] Xyz Monsters and how they possibly received their respective numbers. The trivia found here should not be moved to the official card trivia pages, unless it's a special case. | + | This page was formed after the discussion at [[Forum:Restore Numbers trivia]], and includes a table of all unconfirmed trivia regarding the [[Numbers]] Xyz Monsters and how they possibly received their respective numbers. The trivia found here, should not be moved to the official card trivia pages, unless it's a special case. |
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[[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 19:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC) | [[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 19:10, June 4, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:My theory was that all of the Legendary Number Monsters are apart of some Golden Neumeral read backwards and the last number apart of the Legendary Number Arc is going to be an over-hundred number, that way you get the Golden Neumerals and the over hundred makes a decimal number at the end. Of course, I checked both Pi and Phi and both do not have the numbers. Pi was close though. You could almost hop numbers and get the Legendary Numbers themselves. Well I just want to raise a possibility.[[Special:Contributions/141.0.8.155|141.0.8.155]] ([[User talk:141.0.8.155|talk]]) 15:49, June 10, 2013 (UTC) | :My theory was that all of the Legendary Number Monsters are apart of some Golden Neumeral read backwards and the last number apart of the Legendary Number Arc is going to be an over-hundred number, that way you get the Golden Neumerals and the over hundred makes a decimal number at the end. Of course, I checked both Pi and Phi and both do not have the numbers. Pi was close though. You could almost hop numbers and get the Legendary Numbers themselves. Well I just want to raise a possibility.[[Special:Contributions/141.0.8.155|141.0.8.155]] ([[User talk:141.0.8.155|talk]]) 15:49, June 10, 2013 (UTC) | ||
− | :Ok, that's one interesting research, but how about the seventh guardian? C'mon, can you do some more research to get the specify Number before that showed up? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000"> | + | :Ok, that's one interesting research, but how about the seventh guardian? C'mon, can you do some more research to get the specify Number before that showed up? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 20:21, June 4, 2013 (UTC) |
Honestly, I couldn't have done more research, I have no idea what the 7th Guardian will be, I just saw a pattern in the Numbering of the Legendary Numbers, and saw that pattern continued with most of the Barians up until 73, then I saw more patterns, but I can't truly PREDICT anything, if it goes with the Dissappeared Barian trend, it will be 37, because those are the Numbers on the ends of the 4-6 trend, and 73 is taken. If it follows the Normal Trend, it will be 55 or 45, looking closer at 45, though because all the other Barians who fall into this trend with the exception of Vector have a 4 in the number. Just a thought. | Honestly, I couldn't have done more research, I have no idea what the 7th Guardian will be, I just saw a pattern in the Numbering of the Legendary Numbers, and saw that pattern continued with most of the Barians up until 73, then I saw more patterns, but I can't truly PREDICT anything, if it goes with the Dissappeared Barian trend, it will be 37, because those are the Numbers on the ends of the 4-6 trend, and 73 is taken. If it follows the Normal Trend, it will be 55 or 45, looking closer at 45, though because all the other Barians who fall into this trend with the exception of Vector have a 4 in the number. Just a thought. | ||
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[[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 21:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC) | [[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 21:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC) | ||
− | :: Eh, one thing: "6= Betrayer/was betrayed." - "44: Legendary knight, legendary steed, therefore the double 4" - the legendary knight was also betrayed by the other knights, and by extension | + | :: Eh, one thing: "6= Betrayer/was betrayed." - "44: Legendary knight, legendary steed, therefore the double 4" - the legendary knight was also betrayed by the other knights, and by extension i think it is fair to say that Mach was as well - perhaps not but regardless, thus far it seem to me that all of the legends involve betrayal, whether perceived or otherwise, generally though just unhappy stories aha |
:: Although on a different note I am thinking/hoping that 73 is Shark(/Nasch)s, just because it would fit more with him being water rather than Ice which is more Rios theme - and that Rio will get/have/be connected to (Merag) 37 just because the 7 & or 3 seems to be a lot further disconnected to the other legendary numbers :3 - so there is my grasping at straws aha XD [[User:Sardeth42|Sardeth42]] ([[User talk:Sardeth42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sardeth42|contribs]]) 06:52, June 12, 2013 (UTC) | :: Although on a different note I am thinking/hoping that 73 is Shark(/Nasch)s, just because it would fit more with him being water rather than Ice which is more Rios theme - and that Rio will get/have/be connected to (Merag) 37 just because the 7 & or 3 seems to be a lot further disconnected to the other legendary numbers :3 - so there is my grasping at straws aha XD [[User:Sardeth42|Sardeth42]] ([[User talk:Sardeth42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sardeth42|contribs]]) 06:52, June 12, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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I know, that's why I think 6 means something else. NOW! With the reveal of Number 9(insert second digit) We can see that this clearly deviates from the Barian standard, or even a disappeared barian standard. Which means SOMETHING must be up with this new Number... I would think it would be the flip of 65, but flipped over it's 92, which has already been taken. 95, MAYBE. I wouldn't discount 90 or 99 either. But something is definetly odd about these numbers. | I know, that's why I think 6 means something else. NOW! With the reveal of Number 9(insert second digit) We can see that this clearly deviates from the Barian standard, or even a disappeared barian standard. Which means SOMETHING must be up with this new Number... I would think it would be the flip of 65, but flipped over it's 92, which has already been taken. 95, MAYBE. I wouldn't discount 90 or 99 either. But something is definetly odd about these numbers. | ||
[[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 20:16, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | [[Special:Contributions/76.19.31.134|76.19.31.134]] ([[User talk:76.19.31.134|talk]]) 20:16, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | ||
− | :[[Number 96: Dark Mist]], [[Number 92: Heart-eartH Dragon]], [[Number 91: Thunder Spark Dragon]] (Manga) are all 9X number occurred. Therefore out of ten 9X Numbers, only 3 are taken. 90, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 99 are yet to be using. So following the above explanation, the best chance to naming the Number would be 95 because Rio's previous incarnation suffered the violent view in the past, base on my knowledge. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000"> | + | :[[Number 96: Dark Mist]], [[Number 92: Heart-eartH Dragon]], [[Number 91: Thunder Spark Dragon]] (Manga) are all 9X number occurred. Therefore out of ten 9X Numbers, only 3 are taken. 90, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 99 are yet to be using. So following the above explanation, the best chance to naming the Number would be 95 because Rio's previous incarnation suffered the violent view in the past, base on my knowledge. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 20:20, June 16, 2013 (UTC) |
(Should I start a new section?) Um, I don't really think that ''any'' Number's number is chosen after its Rank or number of needed materials. Seriously. That's quite a poor excuse. [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 23:47, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | (Should I start a new section?) Um, I don't really think that ''any'' Number's number is chosen after its Rank or number of needed materials. Seriously. That's quite a poor excuse. [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 23:47, June 16, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Okay, now you're being a troll. If anything, ranks and materials needed seem to be the best reason since they're the most obvious. Not a strong reason, but an obvious one.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 07:33, June 17, 2013 (UTC) | :Okay, now you're being a troll. If anything, ranks and materials needed seem to be the best reason since they're the most obvious. Not a strong reason, but an obvious one.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 07:33, June 17, 2013 (UTC) | ||
::I'm not being a troll, I'm saying it purely and honestly. Kuwabara said that the Numbers' numbers are chosen "carefully with attention to details, so that [fans] can enjoy it in various places". Check Number 44's explanations, for example. The 1st two are pretty valid and good reasons to explain the number; then, a 3rd one comes saying that "it is Number 44 because it needs two Level 4 monsters". That spits in the face of the two 1st reasons. Also, this is contradictory: some say that, for example, a monster is number 44 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (hence, two "4"), while others say that, for example, a monster is number 8 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (2 x 4 = 8), and still, others say that a monster is number 53 'cause it needs 3 LV 5 monsters (putting both together, 53). Each follow a different logic which contradict each other. Number 15's "15 may be reflected by how this monster has 1500 ATK." is wonderfully ridiculous, by the way. Seriously, look at awesome explanations like Galaxy Tomahawk's, Zombiestein's and Galaxy Queen's, for example, and tell me that trying to justify a number by the monster's Rank isn't stupid. [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 22:13, June 17, 2013 (UTC) | ::I'm not being a troll, I'm saying it purely and honestly. Kuwabara said that the Numbers' numbers are chosen "carefully with attention to details, so that [fans] can enjoy it in various places". Check Number 44's explanations, for example. The 1st two are pretty valid and good reasons to explain the number; then, a 3rd one comes saying that "it is Number 44 because it needs two Level 4 monsters". That spits in the face of the two 1st reasons. Also, this is contradictory: some say that, for example, a monster is number 44 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (hence, two "4"), while others say that, for example, a monster is number 8 'cause it needs 2 LV 4 monsters (2 x 4 = 8), and still, others say that a monster is number 53 'cause it needs 3 LV 5 monsters (putting both together, 53). Each follow a different logic which contradict each other. Number 15's "15 may be reflected by how this monster has 1500 ATK." is wonderfully ridiculous, by the way. Seriously, look at awesome explanations like Galaxy Tomahawk's, Zombiestein's and Galaxy Queen's, for example, and tell me that trying to justify a number by the monster's Rank isn't stupid. [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 22:13, June 17, 2013 (UTC) | ||
− | :::[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7293R6841r3ixk7.jpg I think he meant by this,] Asari. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000"> | + | :::[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7293R6841r3ixk7.jpg I think he meant by this,] Asari. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 22:23, June 17, 2013 (UTC) |
My friend, there are so many numbers which support the fact that SOME numbers are made by rank, and/or number of materials, and/or ATK/DEF at least, it does share it. | My friend, there are so many numbers which support the fact that SOME numbers are made by rank, and/or number of materials, and/or ATK/DEF at least, it does share it. | ||
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:::I understand your point, but I personally think that the reasons beside a Number's number refers to the monster itself, not to the OCG card (once more, mainly considering the deep/elaborate explanations I mentioned before). As a side note, sorry, I haven't heard that expression, I'm Brazilian. :P [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 16:18, June 18, 2013 (UTC) | :::I understand your point, but I personally think that the reasons beside a Number's number refers to the monster itself, not to the OCG card (once more, mainly considering the deep/elaborate explanations I mentioned before). As a side note, sorry, I haven't heard that expression, I'm Brazilian. :P [[User:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|LegendaryAsariUgetsu]] ([[User talk:LegendaryAsariUgetsu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LegendaryAsariUgetsu|contribs]]) 16:18, June 18, 2013 (UTC) | ||
− | ::::Most of that are on Trivia articles, the article here is for randomly, unimportantly trivial, my friend. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000"> | + | ::::Most of that are on Trivia articles, the article here is for randomly, unimportantly trivial, my friend. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 16:26, June 18, 2013 (UTC) |
:::::Okay, please let us not bring up the subject of trivia and triviality again.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 19:25, June 18, 2013 (UTC) | :::::Okay, please let us not bring up the subject of trivia and triviality again.--[[User:Hawk00Refferencer|Hawk00Refferencer]] ([[User talk:Hawk00Refferencer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hawk00Refferencer|contribs]]) 19:25, June 18, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Should we include the fact some "Numbers" have the equal number of letters in their name? So far I encountered 87 (Queen of the Night = 15), 54 (Lion (4) Heart (5)) and 83 (Galaxy Queen (6+5=8+3=11)). [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 22:38, June 25, 2013 (UTC) | Should we include the fact some "Numbers" have the equal number of letters in their name? So far I encountered 87 (Queen of the Night = 15), 54 (Lion (4) Heart (5)) and 83 (Galaxy Queen (6+5=8+3=11)). [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 22:38, June 25, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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:Well there are certainly many things in the table with a bit more steps to get a connection so I think that is perfectly fine to add in. [[User:Sardeth42|Sardeth42]] ([[User talk:Sardeth42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sardeth42|contribs]]) 00:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC) | :Well there are certainly many things in the table with a bit more steps to get a connection so I think that is perfectly fine to add in. [[User:Sardeth42|Sardeth42]] ([[User talk:Sardeth42|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sardeth42|contribs]]) 00:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
So, when all the "Numbers" have been revealed, what will become of this list? Will we put those trivia notes in the respective pages or will it simply stay here? [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 00:10, July 10, 2013 (UTC) | So, when all the "Numbers" have been revealed, what will become of this list? Will we put those trivia notes in the respective pages or will it simply stay here? [[User:Energy X|<span style="color:red">E</span><span style="color:orange">n</span><span style="color:yellow">e</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:blue">g</span><span style="color:purple">y</span> <span style="color:gray">X</span>]] [[User talk:Energy X|∞]] 00:10, July 10, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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