Forum:Burn beat down deck

Jack292013 (talk • contribs) 00:00, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Added all the cards into the deck template that was provided for you when you created this forum thread. Honestly, I think Chain Burn is just the better burn deck. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 00:38, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

3 Sparks. That's pro right there. But seriously, how much thought did you put into this deck...? It even uses Draining Shield instead of say, Magic Cylinder for its intended purpose (beatdown burn). Tenebrae Candidae (talk • contribs) 06:24, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Jack292013 (talk • contribs) 20:22, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't spam your signature, it's rude and gives the impression that you don't actually want help. --Dark Ace SP (Talk) 21:21, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Localized tornado what do you think? Should I main it or counter or twister what would be good to run? Jack Blanke 21:55, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Start with deciding between burn OR beatdown, and focus on that. Trying to mix both at the same time without cards that can do both things at the same time by itself would result in the Deck being average in both fields but not sufficiently stellar in any one to keep up with what you'd face in the regionals. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 01:43, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Also, Localized Tornado is just terrible. Yes, I understand you get to recycle everything you expended, but you're also left with no hand, meaning that you're relying entirely on the cards on the top of your Deck to save the day. That is never a good situation. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 13:46, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Jack Blankr 00:26, July 18, 2013 (UTC) What do you think improvement or not thanks jack blanke Jack Blankr 00:31, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Not much of an improvement, considering that the Deck's standing 55 cards tall. Try cutting it down to 40 (give or take 1 or 2 cards). Cards I recommend you remove, and why:

• Amarylease - How many Tribute Monsters do you have in the Deck? 1. That's not really a very good reason to justify 3 Amarylease. If you're going beatdown, your offensive pressure from your monsters' high ATK should already help in keeping your monsters on the field.
• Amazoness Hunter - Doesn't register in the card database. What's that?
• A-Team: Trap Disposal Unit - Your opponent can see the negation coming and will play around it. Most will simply slug it in the face. Better off with actual negation S/Ts which hold the element of surprise from being face-down.
• Sparks - Really? With Hinotama and Tremendous Fire around, you still go for Sparks?
• Iron Chain Blaster - I understand it's to make up the burn part of your Deck, but with only 2 different candidates available for its effect, and not to mention a lack of Iron Chain Repairman to recycle your cannon fodder, it's not as effective. Even Fire Trooper would be marginally better.
• Kozaky's Self-Destruct Button - You're better off using cards that you can activate yourself that do burn damage. Like Just Desserts, for example.

This list is not exhaustive. There's still a lot of room for improvement in the Deck. --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 02:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Jack Blankr 22:32, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Looking slightly better, though I'm wondering about the use of the Six Samurai monsters and Prime Material Dragon in that Deck. I hope you have a good plan by throwing in the 6Sams, but you do realize that Prime Material Dragon would interfere with your Burn effects, since it converts Burn affecting both sides into healing? --Gadjiltron (talk • contribs) 01:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Focus on one strategy

You run too many cards in your Deck. 40-45 is ok, everything above doesn't work as well.

My suggestions:

• throw out the Six Samurai monsters and Shien's Smoke Signal. They're only powerful in a deck that focuses on them.
• with 3 Amazoness Swords Woman, you could easily leave out Amazoness Fighter.
• Prime Material Dragon destroys burn strategies.
• throw out Sparks. 200 damage is pathetic.
• Tiki Curse isn't really good in this deck.
• Kozaky's Self-Destruct Button is too slow and unreliable.

Your Deck is a bit unfocused. I would recommend you to play either burn or beatdown:

• for beatdown, throw in some kind of trampler, like Twin-Sword Marauder and beatsticks like Gene-Warped Warwolf.
• for burn damage, instead of "one-shots" (like Hinotama), throw in cards that damage your opponent continously, like Bowganian or Solar Flare Dragon.

BronzeJohnson (talk • contribs) 20:12, July 22, 2013 (UTC)