Forum:Most overused deck type?

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I'd just like to say, that after getting out and doing tournaments more, it seems like nobody is original anymore. Of all the times I dueled, all were either E-Hero decks or DD decks (macro cosmos-centered). For legal decks, they're really effective. But still... can't people be more original?

The Earl 06:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I tend to see Gladiator Beast decks fairly often, but rarely, do I ever see E-Hero decks. However, Macro decks are abundant, and I see maybe, four in a tournament with six rounds. >_>; 75.23.212.244 06:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

In sanctioned tournaments, it's actual usefulness of the deck > originality for most people. Either that, or competitive and original decks. --Pizzaman 07:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
  • By definition, "overused" means "used more than it should be", not "used a lot", so the most used deck is not necessarily the most overused deck. In my opinion, Dark Armed Return is the most overused deck, since it is extremely widely used and really should not be used at all, since Dark Armed Dragon should be banned. --Crab Helmet 07:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Objection to crab helmet

Why banned dark arm, are you scared that u will lose to such deck, i think that limiting it would be enough to change the game format, dun spoil fun. And wat i see, most people i play with use e hero, monarch or low level deck , which are fun unlike the competive deck, like dark armed return deck or dark deck 220.255.7.246 12:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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I don't think Crab Helmet's one to want a card Forbidden solely because it's difficult for them to beat it. If there's a reason "Dark Armed Dragon" should be Forbidden is because it's easy to Summon, can result in plus 3, in card advantage. Overall it doesn't require too much skill to use it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Dark Armed is strong, but I think it should be more of slowed, like demise, rather then just banned. That way you could still use deck, but would just be trickier to use. Also I try to keep most of my decks as original as I can, sometime ever at cost off effectiveness. Even with the 100s of deck types, will always be way more players, so very few effective decks will ever really be original.--Bio 22:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Dark Armed Dragon should be banned, but it should be limited. The other issue I have with the DAD deck, if built properly, is the draw power it has with both Allure and Destiny Draw (since D-Hero's are dark). Too many times I've seen duels in which a player will mill through half his deck in a single turn with those 2 cards, then summon 2 DAD's, then dump another monster, get Zerato, remove, then DDR, swarm/kill. I'm glad they Semi-Limited Allure, but they need to do the same with Destiny Draw. Granted, if I had the money for both DAD and D-Draw, I'd run the deck also, but I'd also probably tear it apart after a few duels because its not much fun. I prefer the unusual win, not the staple deck, though the unusual deck is becoming very hard to find at regionals. Lightspeed1967 18:48, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

  • But what you are saying is that D-Draw becomes problematic because DAD exists. Therefore if we ban DAD, then there is no reason we need to ban a themed draw card. --Pizzaman 09:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

hahaha... over used isn't the term is it abused!!!! this format is advance pure...

the real problem now is abuse...

dark armed dragon just abuse it versitility...

making this game rotten...

i think the UDE could arrange another format to change yu-gi-oh for synchro/ tuner decks...

in my opinion, those decks concentrated in these type of gameplay will just be ignored beside the fact their is easy but it is too much situational and too much to be planned to make its summoning successful...

it's procedure is using a tuner and 1 or more non-tuner monsters to be sent to graveyard in order to make a synchro monster...

that move in tournaments here in U.S.A. is certainly downed to 1% beside to fact, you can't chain in the synchro summoning procedure, you still have a problem when the monster is ss into the field...

you might be expecting a botttomless trap hole, torrential tribute or a dark bugle to counter your summoning...

so why can't UDE make all cards that can control the opponent's card to be limited and card that are broken to be forbidden just like cards that have destroy, return and rfg in it's text...

all staples should be forbidden to make decks their exactly original...

there is a slight exemption, that have a connection the card that making it a must be included is exemption but control card limitation will still applied making dark world decks have cards that have discard effects cards limited and counter traps for counter fairy limited and have a reason for them to be a deck...

all card that can make cards go to the monster card zone(only for monsters) or hand should be limited like over soul or the warrior returning alive or miracle fusion because i believe cards that can a monster out from scrap should be limited because it combination is so much fast, this will make duels more fun...

dark armed dragon is so much beautiful to see in these format because the deck that will use dad will not have defense to protect dad, remember? dad will only survive with solemn judgement face-down and played but with no sj's in his or her will make that card junk...

the cards written in the forbidden card list in the advance rules will still be forbidden because of its broken abilities...

all cards that have a quick search ability(meaning an ability of a card when either played face-down or face-up and sent to the graveyard should be limited making warrior decks lose their fast synergy in the game those card are examples e-mergency call or reinforcement of the army...

all cards that can draw a card or more should be limited like examples destiny draw...

all cards that have a hard search ability(means an ability of a card to search but must have a trigger to make its effect played) is semi-limited like masked dragon or flying kamakiri...

all cards that can make cards from rfg or graveyard to the deck, or spell/ trap zone should be semi-limited like crystal beast or fifth hope...

all cards that can be used to any deck will be forbidden making the format more complex about making the deck versatile to any means necessary with have an abuse combo these cards are foolish burial or pot of avarice...

Ban Dark Armed Dragon

Wtf are you all talking about? Dad should be banned to the ground the ability to remove 3 cards on the turn it's summoned is unbelievably Overpowered it's basically like Chaos and they all got banned

Ban Dark Armed Dragon

Wtf are you all talking about? Dad should be banned to the ground the ability to remove 3 cards on the turn it's summoned is unbelievably Overpowered it's basically like Chaos and they all got banned


Please, stop it. >_> You're not only stopping anyone from agreeing with you, you're just furthering that we shouldn't listen to you at all. In my opnion, Dark Armed Dragon should be limited at most, but then, I don't see many Dark Armed Dragon decks, and I have only faced one, so my opinion may not be valid. Also, I see Lightsworn Decks more then any other deck type, at my last tournament I must have faced three in the four duels I was in. 70.243.8.196 18:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thing is, DAD decks (in the OCG at least, no sure about DAD Return in TCG after the ban of D.Fusion) only require 1 DAD in order to perform an OTK. They are also one of the top decks of the current meta. --Pizzaman 01:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

A Comment on the entire article

  • I agree that Dark Armed Dragon is a very cheep card, but like Light and Darkness Dragon the ever present threat of it coming down to end the duel will be dispersed when a new powerhouse card comes in to the spotlight. Anyway this is an artical Titled Most Overused Deck types, not a Dark armed dragon discussion. in my oppionion, FTK/OTK decks are the most overused, Because in a game of skill, what good does it do to end a duel before an opponent even gets a turn to fight back. I Believe that They Should Not Even Exsist. Regretfully i also believe that any Deck that Dominates an area to the point where everyone either plays the deck or fails horribly in any tournament they enter is also overused to the point the point that the deck's key cards need to be banned (EXAMPLE: Chaos and Dark armed return). Caesar 19:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Overused

I think the most overused decktypes are macro cosmos and dark armed dragon decks. waaaay too overused. e-heroes are just oversupported, but not exactly overused. Bluedog187 22:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

as everyone has said, there are a lot of decks that are being overused or "abused", macros, gladiator beasts, dark deck, one thing is that decks like that limit the pleople's imagination because the only diference i see between one and another are two or four cards, for example, the DEMISE deck, wich can use insects, or BEWD - now with the card "swings of memories" = OTK. anyway, there is no change that we will have the change to create a good and competitive "original" deck, because all of the pleople will sitll use cards like "neo spacian grand mole", "snipe hunter", "monarch", so it is not the player's fault, it is the people who makes the cards, the ones that are guilty for the overused decks.Zmaster21 15:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)z21master

  • Overused? Lightsworns and Gladiator Beasts say hi - and it gets annoying. Chris427 08:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I have a lot of theme decks. But my idea of an original deck.get cards you love put it together and make it work.i think its the most fun and original deck i can use.i use the ratio 10 magic,10 trap, 20 lv4, 3 lv5/6 and 2 lv8 and over.anybody else uses this ratio? Most people refer to this type of deck a random deck but its still fun to use and your opponent wont know wat to expect.just my opinion. m.o.g.overload

are you all kidding?

Screw those decks (except those who said the ones im enlisting) the ones that are the most overused is Lightsworns,DAD,Gladiators,and the other ratio is Dark Return.

And I say DAD should just be limited. Screw you cry babies,just deal with it. I feel like it is abused,and to those out there who wont trade one then you can go to hell.Because its going to be limited soon and you wont have your little cheap strategies of field control ne more so you can kiss my ass when it get limited,because all the other decks will rise above you.

End of discussion.