Editing Talk:Pendulum Monster

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==Pendulum List==
Shouldn't We give a list of pendulum monsters?
[[User:Mmmmmmmmmm12|Mmmmmmmmmm12]] ([[User talk:Mmmmmmmmmm12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mmmmmmmmmm12|contribs]]) 19:32, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

:We already have [[List of Pendulum Monsters|one]]. [[User:NovaTsukimori|NovaTsukimori]] ([[User talk:NovaTsukimori|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NovaTsukimori|contribs]]) 19:35, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you [[User:Mmmmmmmmmm12|Mmmmmmmmmm12]] ([[User talk:Mmmmmmmmmm12|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mmmmmmmmmm12|contribs]]) 20:14, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

== Pendulum x Banishing cards ==


I'm a Ygopro Players, and i recently played using "[[Masked HERO Dark Law]]" agains Qliphorts. Each time i destroyed their Pendulum monsters, instead of returning to the Extra Deck, they were banished. Is it okay? --[[User:Theundeadlord|OnePiece]] ([[User talk:Theundeadlord|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Theundeadlord|contribs]]) 17:25, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

:No, it shouldn't do that. Dark Law banishes anything that would be sent to the Graveyard, but Pendulum Monsters go to the Extra Deck instead of the Graveyard, so they should bypass its effect. That problem was also on DevPro for a while, but last time I dueled like that it was fixed. [[User:A Wikia contirutor|A Wikia contirutor]] ([[User talk:A Wikia contirutor|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A Wikia contirutor|contribs]]) 17:38, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
:It seems that Pendulum Monsters going to the Extra Deck = the Graveyard if they're sent there from the field, even though they go to the Extra Deck. I always figured, "As they would go to the Extra Deck as a result of going from the field to the Graveyard like they would normally, since they don't go to the Graveyard (and thus the Extra Deck), the rule that sends them to the Extra Deck as a result of going from the field to the Graveyard doesn't apply." But who knows, what if I'm wrong? This seems more like a conversation to be shared in a forum though.<br/>[[User:NovaTsukimori|The Grim Reaper]] ([[User talk:NovaTsukimori|talk]]) 17:51, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

== Thanks ==


Maybe it's an error of Ygopro. I think i will talk about it in the forum --[[User:Theundeadlord|OnePiece]] ([[User talk:Theundeadlord|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Theundeadlord|contribs]]) 21:44, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

==Fusion, Tribute and Synchro summon Material==
In the page text "When a Pendulum Monster (even if it is face-down) would be sent from the field to the Graveyard, either as a Monster Card or Spell Card, it is placed face-up in the Extra Deck Zone instead", This means that if the card is send to graveyard as begin tributed or used as fusion or synchro material they are placed in the extra deck? I never see in the anime (due begin never show or explained) Old Eyes begin placed in the extra deck after begin fused whit other monster --[[User:Dragonempeorslayer|Dragonempeorslayer]] ([[User talk:Dragonempeorslayer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dragonempeorslayer|contribs]]) 02:55, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

:Yes. If it would go directly from the field to the Graveyard for any reason, it will be placed face-up in the Extra Deck instead of ever actually going to the Graveyard, which allows for a lot of tricky plays. The anime never had a chance to show this, nor did it have a reason to. [[User:Aeron Solo|<font color="grass" size="2">'''Aeron Solo wuz here'''</font>]] [[User talk:Aeron Solo|<font color="gold" size="1">(If you wanna talk)</font>]] 03:00, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

== Card Effects; Sending ==

I'd like some confirmation on when Pendulums go to the grave. I've been playing with some people, and a couple claim that should a Pendulum be sent from the field to the grave by various card effects (like [[White Elephant's Gift]]), it doesn't go to the Extra Deck. Is this true?
Also, what happens if a card says 'destroy the Pendulum and Banish it instead of sending it to the graveyard' (similar to [[Bottomless Trap Hole]])? Or cards like [[Macro Cosmos]]?
[[User:AnonymousGX|AnonymousGX]] ([[User talk:AnonymousGX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AnonymousGX|contribs]]) 18:14, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

: If a Pendulum Monster goes from the field to the Graveyard, it goes to the Extra Deck. That being said, I believe that Bottomless and Macro will intercept and banish them. [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 18:43, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
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 :Yes. If it would go directly from the field to the Graveyard for any reason, it will be placed face-up in the Extra Deck instead of ever actually going to the Graveyard, which allows for a lot of tricky plays. The anime never had a chance to show this, nor did it have a reason to. [[User:Aeron Solo|<font color="grass" size="2">'''Aeron Solo wuz here'''</font>]] [[User talk:Aeron Solo|<font color="gold" size="1">(If you wanna talk)</font>]] 03:00, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
-== How Much as Spells? ==
+== Card Effects; Sending ==
-If [[Pendulum Monster]]s are monsters that can be activated as [[Spell Card]]s, would they also be treated as Spell Cards while in the hand, [[Main Deck]] or [[Graveyard]]?  Like, suppose someone wanted to use the effect of "[[Dark Magician of Chaos]]" to return a Pendulum Monster from their Graveyard to their hand.
+I'd like some confirmation on when Pendulums go to the grave. I've been playing with some people, and a couple claim that should a Pendulum be sent from the field to the grave by various card effects (like [[White Elephant's Gift]]), it doesn't go to the Extra Deck. Is this true?
+Also, what happens if a card says 'destroy the Pendulum and Banish it instead of sending it to the graveyard' (similar to [[Bottomless Trap Hole]])? Or cards like [[Macro Cosmos]]?
+[[User:AnonymousGX|AnonymousGX]] ([[User talk:AnonymousGX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AnonymousGX|contribs]]) 18:14, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
-If that's true, should this mechanic be added to the article? --'''[[User:Psychid45|<font color="lime">Yes, it's PSYCHID!</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:Psychid45|<font color="skyblue">He talks!</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Psychid45|<font color="red">He does stuff!</font>]]</sup>''' 13:34, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
+: If a Pendulum Monster goes from the field to the Graveyard, it goes to the Extra Deck. That being said, I believe that Bottomless and Macro will intercept and banish them. [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 18:43, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
-Pendulum Monsters are only Spell cards in pendulum Zones, other than that, they are monsters, so they cannot be retrieved by "[[Dark Magician of Chaos]]" from the Graveyard.--[[User:Chadook|Chadook]] ([[User talk:Chadook|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chadook|contribs]]) 14:01, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
-:They're only treated as Spells in the Pendulum Zones. Anywhere else, they're monsters.[[User:ChaosGallade|ChaosGallade]] ([[User talk:ChaosGallade|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ChaosGallade|contribs]]) 15:51, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
-:They don't. They only count as Spells on the field, and are monsters everywhere else. That's why they're referred to as "Pendulum Monsters" when being searched for through the deck, targeted in the Graveyard, or targeted while in the Extra Deck. And while they do count toward S/T on the field, they are never referred to as "Pendulum Spells," merely "Cards in the Pendulum Zone." [[User:A Wikia contirutor|A Wikia contirutor]] ([[User talk:A Wikia contirutor|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A Wikia contirutor|contribs]]) 17:27, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
-== Effect Box Transparency ==
-I was testing some things with extracted Master Duel assets to try to figure out the exact point where the transparency of pendulum effect boxes ended for personal reasons. While doing this, I realized that duplicating the layer of the pendulum card frame and setting the duplicated layer to "difference" mode would be an easy way to see it. Surprisingly, when I did this, the '''entire''' effect box was showing transparency, with the transparency fading from the top of the box to the bottom. [[User:Flare Kyn|Flare Kyn]] ([[User talk:Flare Kyn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flare Kyn|contribs]]) 18:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
-:From memory, [[Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon]] is one of the best examples of this. [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 20:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
-::Oh wow, I didn't notice that. I just checked, and I can see Odd-Eyes' foot inside his monster effect box on several of his artworks. [[User:Flare Kyn|Flare Kyn]] ([[User talk:Flare Kyn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flare Kyn|contribs]]) 21:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
-:::A couple of the ones I found are [[File:OddEyesPendulumDragon-SDMP-EN-C-1E.png|50px]] and [[File:OddEyesPendulumDragon-DUPO-EN-UR-LE.png|50px]], though you have to zoom in pretty far to see them. I'm not entirely sure if these are the exceptions or the general rule, though. [[User:Flare Kyn|Flare Kyn]] ([[User talk:Flare Kyn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flare Kyn|contribs]]) 18:58, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
-:The reason I was bringing this up was because this page says that only the top part of the monster effect box is transparent, even though nearly the entire box has some level of transparency. [[User:Flare Kyn|Flare Kyn]] ([[User talk:Flare Kyn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flare Kyn|contribs]]) 03:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
-I saw that this page was edited to include this fact and have been trying to edit the Fandom wiki to do the same, but Pitifulheartles keeps reverting my edits because he's worried about Yugipedia DMCA-ing the Fandom wiki for "plagiarism" (he didn't even try to reword it himself, he just completely reverted it back to what it was). I already did what I could to change up the wording, so I'm at a loss on what to do. [[User:Flare Kyn|Flare Kyn]] ([[User talk:Flare Kyn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Flare Kyn|contribs]]) 19:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
-:Yes, the Odd-Eyes alt art makes it tricky to quantify, particularly with how much later it is. From memory though the arts of Pendulum Monsters in the video games ''are'' all the same dimensions though, so it might just be a case of not wanting to hide so much of the art in the text box, which is understandable.
-:As a completely unbiased admin of this wiki, I would recommend you don't bother adding that information to the FANDOM wiki. That user is technically correct in that there are plagiarism concerns with doing so, regardless of their approach, so in general we'd prefer you stick to one wiki (and hopefully this one if possible). [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 22:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)