Talk:Yugipedia/Archive 6

A small reminder

Cactus Bouncer's ability works only when another plant is on your side of the field. Due to this, if you tribute Lonefire for its effect, then you are free to summon your special summoned monster. At this point, Bouncer's effect reactivates. I think this loophole should be mentioned. In Debris Hime decks, you can still use Dragon to summon another plant type monster from your grave if there aren't any others already on the field besides bouncer. This is a key time to perform your special summons such as with Lonefire, Debris Dragon, Fertilizer, etc. Hope this helps. This is my 400th post too :D NYKid8295 22:46, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the way Cactus Fighter and similar cards tend to work is by preventing all attempts at the forbidden action. In the same way that Imperial Iron Wall flat-out prevents all effects that would remove cards from play even activating, Cactus Fighter stops Lonefire from activating its effect. It's a nice idea, but it doesn't work. However, your Debris Hime suggestion works. —This unsigned comment was made by 94.173.184.193 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Love the new page layout!

Thank you big time to whoever reformatted the front page, I have been complaining about the front page fortwo years and love that it's been fixed! Love and Peace! --MikaIzinsky 10:23, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. You can leave comments here. -- Deltaneos (talk) 10:45, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Card

Maybe we should have a poll to see what people like for a featured card. We could just have a page where people could post nominations, Then anyone who likes them could just leave their Signature. I nominate Chaos Sorcerer Its a solid card that works well with popular decks. Its not to hard to find, and its easy to summon. Peace MCHatandClogs 15:05, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking about doing one card from each set as they come out. This keeps the Featured Card up to date, and not changing every day. Remember, this isn't a fan-site, per se, so voting on our favorite cards may not be the best way to do it. DemonGodAsura 19:32, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

How is this not a fan site? —This unsigned comment was made by 173.45.220.252 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I think MChatandClogs has a good idea, there will not be a new card out every month, and some cards that are just starting to be used again or for the first time might fill in those monthly gaps. I think we should have a page devoted to voting, and then put the votes on the forums. --Tapper930 16:47, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm not talking about voting for your favorite card, I mean we should vote for a card based on power, adaptability, useability, and all around strength in the game. Also, mostly all the people on this site are fans of the game. MCHatandClogs 03:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree one per month is good, but we should stay away from mainstream cards, as everyone already knows what they do. DemonGodAsura 04:18, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

What defines "mainstream"? MCHatandClogs 04:19, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Virtually anything from the most popular meta, such as "Blackwings", "Lightsworn", or even "Gladiator Beasts", and also no Staples. They are commonly known cards. DemonGodAsura 05:04, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well yeah that is totally right, we shoulden't mention those. I mean cool stuff not commonly used in the meta that could increase the power of most decks ie. Elemental Hero Neos Alius, Hes got solid atk and def, hes easy to search and a light monster so it works with cards like Honest and Chaos Sorcerer. Also ya can use him with Gemini Spark to zap-fry your opponents stubborn cards. By the way, yes I do run Alius. MCHatandClogs 12:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest that the main page feature one of the new beast-warrior type support that will be released, may be Akz, the Pumer. We all know that beast-warriors have been neglected for a long period of time. That is why they should be featured because the new support will bring a new dimension of playability for beast-warriors that many of us still don't fully comprehend.--Hide Head Turtle 13:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah! Head Turtle has the right idea! MCHatandClogs 23:12, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe not "Akz, the Pumer". There isn't much it can do, even in a great build. DemonGodAsura 23:34, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, maybe not Akz, the Pumer but we are taking steps in the right direction. There are always new cards (and some old ones) that can improve your deck. So, why not post one on the main page? Or better yet have featured CARDS (plural). We could have a short list of like 4 or 5 cards. I'm not talking about "cool" cards I mean like what people think the new Blackwings or Lightsworns will be. MCHatandClogs 05:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Let's just stick to 1 card. The purpose of the Featured Card is to explain the use of an unheralded card, so picking an older card that complements current Decks well is a good idea. Going with multiple cards means only a few sentences each, which doesn't give enough space to explain their use. DemonGodAsura 08:01, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Assuming I didn't get my facts mixed up, new packs come out every 3 months and structure decks don't really have the best set release dates, but would it make sense that after a pack comes out have one card from that pack, followed by one from a recently released structure deck followed by older cards or cards from a special pack (like Duelist Pack: Kaiba)? I don't know, sounded like a good way to order it monthly. D.Kaiser 18:47, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well that might be cool to, but I just think that the featured card is not updated enough, I mean how long has Cactus Bouncer been up for anyway? MCHatandClogs 00:16, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... maybe Infernity Launcher or Infernity Beetle. -- User:Master of Dragon Knight —Preceding undated comment added 22:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

How about Testudo erat Numen? We seem to be going on the lines of "prevent Special Summons" with Archlord Kristya and Cactus Fighter. Ascriptmaster 02:29, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, that sounds great. It's a tech card that isn't really straightforward but has a lot of potential. Best of all, its a turtle. However, I may be biased on this one.--Hide Head Turtle 02:31, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of either "Substitoad" or "Ronintoadin", as they are key cards for a potent Deck. I think it's time to break the "anti-Special Summon" category, I mean, who wants to read about more ways to prevent Special Summons. DemonGodAsura 08:11, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the main priority here is to introduce cards that have a lot of potential but aren't understood by people. Frogs have become an essential part of the meta and a lot of people already know what those cards are capable of. We already know that they swarm relatively well and that they make for great tribute fodder, etc...--Hide Head Turtle 09:47, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we do want to unearth the hidden gems, but "Testudo erat Numen" isn't a gem. All it does is provide small anti-Special Summon in a format where small monsters are being Special Summoned outside of Synchro Summons, and bigger Normal Summon monsters like "Flamvell Firedog", "XX-Saber Boggart Knight", and "Doomcaliber Knight" are being used. So overall, "Testudo erat Numen" provides minimal support. DemonGodAsura 21:03, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it about time for the anniversary of Yugioh Wikia for the featured card? I have an idea of "The Gift of Greed" for a possible candidate.--Tapper930 17:23, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Page following

Whats up with the new and the blue layout? It preventing things from working. And I have to type in the URL to get to the watchlist. What's up with that? Idiot's page Future ruler of the world's talk 18:59, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's Wikia's new page following feature. The link to Special:Watchlist has been replaced with one to Special:Following. -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:38, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I've added the necessary js to restore the link to the Watchlist... but it's not working. I don't know if it's a problem with cache, or if I've made a mistake. In the meantime, anyone who wants the watchlist link back, as seen in the blog, you can go to Special:Mypage/monaco.js and paste the following:

function restoreWatchlistLink () {
  var wlLink       = document.createElement('a');
  wlLink.href      = '/wiki/Special:Watchlist';
  wlLink.title     = 'Your watchlist';
  wlLink.innerHTML = "My watchlist";
  var wlObj        = document.createElement('span');
  wlObj.id         = 'header_mywatchlist';
  wlObj.appendChild(wlLink);
  document.getElementById('userData').insertBefore(wlObj, document.getElementById('header_mytalk').nextSibling);
}
addOnloadHook(restoreWatchlistLink);

Follow the instructions on the page for how to clear your cache and the link should be back.

Also, anyone who doesn't want their watchlist to be shown publicly, remember to go to Special:Preferences#prefsection-6 and tick "Make my followed pages lists private". -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:18, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, the watchlist link is appearing for some people after I added the js, but not for me. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:18, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

The trap card Appropriate?

If someone goes in their dreck and use his effect would the trap card appropriate go in effect? If not what cards would work for appropiates effect? —This unsigned comment was made by 174.210.157.180 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean, but this isn't the place to ask. This page is for discussing the Main Page or the wiki in general. For questions on rulings, please go here and start a new topic. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:35, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Effect Changes

If the effect of a card in the anime is changed when it's made into a real card. Shouldn't that be shown in the Trivia section? Because I've seen it in the Card Appearances section a lot. EvilHeroDarkGaia (talk • contribs) 15:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

The appearances page is for anime, manga, book and video game details, including appearances and properties. Trivia is for information about the card that doesn't go in any of the other pages. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:54, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Trolling

I know that this might be a little off topic, but unregistered contributers have been trolling on these pages: Stardust Dragon Red Dragon Archfiend Dark Magician Black Rose Dragon

These are all that I found. There might be more, but I don't know. If anyone who has experience in editing, can you please put those pages back to the way they were? I don't know how to set the formats up correctly.

Spamming

I was wondering if there's a solution on permanently removing users who create and edit pages by posting random keyboard combinations and/or writhing articles that are not related to Yu-Gi-Oh in any way. I don't think it would be harsh to bann these imbeciles by their IP addresses and never let them enter this Wikia page again. Anyone else could share their visions on this problem ?! Fuel Synchron (talk • contribs) 10:13, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

They mostly just edit once and then leave. In which case it is easy to revert their edit(s). There's no point in blocking them when it is unlikely they will return. Blocking is only needed if they become a recurring problem. A block is necessary to prevent abuse, much moreso than punish it.

IP addresses should not be blocked infinitely, since they're an address not one single person. It can't be assumed that they will only be used by one person between now and forever. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:10, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Trade Bait Article

There isn't one. Someone create one or explain to me why we don't have one already, please. Zeroblizzard (talk • contribs) 02:36, August 1, 2010 (UTC)Zeroblizzard

New featured card please!

Ronintoadin has been there for a very long time! Can we please have something different? Also, is it possible to change it more often? Skullvarnish (talk • contribs) 22:57, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

People have been considering doing something based on the September 2010 Lists as the next Featured Card. Does anyone else have any suggestions? -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:51, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, "Dark Hole" was recently unbanned, how bout that. If you want a monster, "Chaos Sorcerer" was recently semi limited. —This unsigned comment was made by Tapper930 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking something that takes a little bit more strategy to use, like Ojama Trio Skullvarnish (talk • contribs) 03:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we should do Shooting Star Dragon as the cover card. Kicks butt. Not even out in America, and it has over 3000 atk. —This unsigned comment was made by 68.225.211.242 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Jaden image

Hello! I'm new here.. I would like to tell you that I'm a HUGE fan of King of Games Jaden Yuki!!! So I would like to ask a huge favior.!!!! Could you please put this photo again at his profile?? [1] Thank you for your time!!!

I know I'm human.

Ok. I went to the page Yami Marik, and then the page turned and said, Click one to prove you are human. All said play Bubble Blaster. I X-ed out. I wanna know, if has anyone else has had this problem and what up with it? —This unsigned comment was made by 98.23.61.240 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

New skin

sorry to say but i hate this new layout on 6 10 2010 but do like the facebook and talk thing place bring back old the one MikaIzinsky and me like Blackwingben!!! (talk • contribs) 19:48, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think you're seeing the new skin. A lot of people, me included, dislike it too, but pretty soon it's going to be the default. You can leave feedback saying what you don't like about it on one of the blogs about it here. You can go to Special:Preferences to change your skin back to Monaco or Monobook. But by the 3rd of November, you won't be able to use Monaco anymore. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:08, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

no more old skin like monaco from 3rd of november ? i guess i must be suitable with the new skin Gemini 93 (talk • contribs) 04:21, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the new skin. We might have to make some changes to infoboxes and tables to suit the new width. I've started a discussion here if anyone wants to comment. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

There's also Forum:The New Wikia Layout for more general discussion on the skin. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:03, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Animanga footer

The animanga footer is a croswiki template used to promote anime and manga wikis within Wikia. You can see it here. It is added to the bottom on the Main Page on some anime/manga wikis. That way users interested in anime/manga are more likely to find other anime/manga wikis. It'll help them get more readers and editors, both of which are helpful.

Anyway someone has suggested stripping the template down so that it just shows the wikis who are using it. You can see the current suggested changes here, but it most likely will be updated some more.

The user suggesting those changes asked if we'd be willing to add that template to the bottom of our Main Page in exchange for being listed on the template. I don't mind too much which we way we go. If anyone else is in favour, against or has comments/questions, could they please leave some here. Thank you. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:58, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Newly changed button

Why can't I enter the Newly Changed page via the button on the main page? Someone help me please. --220.255.7.164 (talk) 14:50, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

You're using Wikia's new skin. The "recent changes" link has been replaced with a link to "wiki activity", up in the top right. If you prefer the traditional recent changes, you can go click on "See all activity" from the wiki activity page. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:57, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Degeneration of grammar: OF vs HAVE

I've been coming to this wikia for at least 3 years now, and in general the english grammar submitted internationally has been very good. However, whilst reading Trivia for True Six Samurai Shinai, Mizuho, Hand of the Six Samurai and Spirit of the Six Samurai, I noticed the influence of a more recently common - and completely nonsensical - error in English.

There is NO SUCH PHRASE as:

• might of
• should of
• could of
• would of, etc

I can see how this silly mistake might have arisen, since people are tending to type words as they sound, rather than how they're spelled. All of the above errors are corruptions of the form "ve" as an abbreviation of 'have'. For instance, 'might of' has arisen from the mis-typing of the actual phrase "might've", being an abbreviation of "might have".

Please can moderators look out for misleading and badly-written facts, trivia, tips etc as these can confuse issues that people have come here to resolve.

Thanks. -- Shamus87 23:58, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I'll keep my eye out.

I don't know if Google is picking up everything, but after searching this site for "could of", "should of", "would of" and "might of", I found only one content page result for "should of" and none for "could of" or "would of". "Talk", "User" and "Forum" pages are users discussing, rather than encyclopedic pages and aren't worth correcting. "Might of" is usually used in a correct context, where "might" means "strength", rather than "could possibly".

P.S. When you sign your posts could you do it by typing four tildes, like this: ~~~~ at the end of your post, rather than type it manually. It'll automatically change to your name and add a timestamp in the server's default time zone. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:07, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Latest Sets?

Shouldn't the latest set be changed to Storm of Ragnarok? It's the latest set and it is due in a week or two. So why isn't it up there? Or am I getting it muddled and it's the latest TCG set? ~DragonXDoom (talk • contribs) 12:29, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

The last two times that section got updated were two days before the release date and on the release date itself. There's only been three sets used since that section was added. It was never quite discussed exactly when it should be updated. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:46, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

layout

I think the old layout of yugioh wikia is better than the new one —This unsigned comment was made by 24.7.158.122 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't like it either, but we're stuck with it. Could you let us know what specifically you don't like about it over on Forum:The New Wikia Layout and we'll see what we can do. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:53, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Card mistake

If Beast King Barbaros is Normal Summoned without a tribute it's original ATK is 1900, not 2500.--205.122.232.250 (talk) 03:46, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

BIG PROBLEM

BIG PROBLEM. I went to a card page and there were redlinks where some of the data was supposed to be, and wikimarkup code in random places. Someone ineptly edited/vandalized the framework of the wiki! HELP! Affected pages include:

• Cyber Ogre 2
• Mucus Yolk
• Dawn of the Herald
• Harvest Angel of Wisdom
• Dark Voltanis
• Break the Seal
• Defense Seal Wall
• Flare Resonator
• Mind Trust
• Scrap Fusion
• Darklord Zerato
• Daigusta Garudos
• Wynn the Wind Charmer
• Guts of Steel
• Fake Trap

I will continue to edit this list. Others may add any articles to the list if they experience difficulties. <font color = #ffad00>[[Raging Flame Sprite]] Rocks!!! It's [[User: Stendika|my]] signature card!</font> (talk • contribs) 00:49, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

They haven't been vandalised or ineptly edited. It looks like Wikia staff disabled the extension SMW and then reenabled it. A lot of pages are looking as they would if SMW was still disabled, because they didn't clear the job queue afterwards. I'll give them a poke to clear the job queue. In the meantime, adding ?action=purge to the end of the url of affected pages should fix them. Making an edit to an affected page should also fix it. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:37, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

The Plague is back

And this time I can't fix anything by editing! Help! <font color=#ffad00>Raging Flame Sprite is AWESOME!!!!!</font>^{[[User:Stendika|Stendika]]}_{[[User Talk:Stendika|Click here to yell at me.]][[Special:Contributions/Stendika|<font color=#a040c8>I haz done tihs stuph.</font>]]} (talk • contribs) 13:58, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The forum is where we usually post things like this. As for this particular glitch, it would be Forum:"Magical Stone Excavation" page has problems. However, the temporary fix on that page doesn't work this time. So I assume it's a glitch with the wikia templates/SMW. It should be fixed eventually.... (although, it's been like this for the whole day...) -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:03, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, it's also all over 5D's Episode 138 and few other cards that I came access. That's one reason why I denied the fact of skin change. Old one was better than this skin. --FredCat ^{Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C.} 14:11, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I've already reported it. It's because SMW was disabled, it's nothing to do with the skin. Null editing and purging isn't working this time, because it hasn't been reenabled.

P.S. Stendika, could you tick the box labelled "Raw signature" in Special:Preferences. When that's ticked, whatever is printed in the above field is used as your signature. When its unticked, your signature becomes:

[[User:Stendik|whatever's printed in the above field]] ([[User talk:Stendika|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stendika|contribs]])

-- Deltaneos (talk) 14:43, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay it was disabled because an overuse of heavy #ask queries was straining the servers. We should have it reenabled soon, but we should also try and reduce the amount of heavy #ask queries. I think the biggest problem is the archetype navboxes, which use a number of queries and are used on thousands of pages. We should rewrite a simpler version of them, to stop this happening in future. For example creating an individual template for each archetype, rather than use one that generates the entries automatically. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:15, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Whenever I click the "raw sig" button, it gives me an error. <font color=#ffad00>Raging Flame Sprite is AWESOME!!!!!</font>^{[[User:Stendika|Stendika]]}_{[[User Talk:Stendika|Click here to yell at me.]][[Special:Contributions/Stendika|<font color=#a040c8>I haz done tihs stuph.</font>]]} (talk • contribs) 17:28, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

What does the error message say? -- Deltaneos (talk) 19:06, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

"Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags."<font color=#ffad00>Raging Flame Sprite is AWESOME!!!!!</font>^{[[User:Stendika|Stendika]]}_{[[User Talk:Stendika|Click here to yell at me.]][[Special:Contributions/Stendika|<font color=#a040c8>I haz done tihs stuph.</font>]]} (talk • contribs) 20:34, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I see. I've had a look through wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to fix your signature and you need to put quotes around attributes in the HTML tags. i.e. color=#ffad00 should be color="#ffad00". I've tested this by copying your signature in my own signature field temporarily and it lets me check the raw signature box after that. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:21, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Raging Flame Sprite is AWESOME!!!!!^Stendika_{Click here to yell at me.I haz done tihs stuph.} 02:36, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

System Crashed?

I don't know what happend, but this IS terrible!

Nearly all pages have problems, i can no longer search anything and the lists (if you click on "… further results") are broken. It just shows "No such special page", but i know they exists! Also the code is shown on parts of the page: "" and the names crashed too!

What the hell just happened?

--Gwinty (talk • contribs) 09:38, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

*Points to the above section* -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:19, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

The drop down menu for archetypes is missing...

If you go to card pages part of an archetype, like Machinas, Dark Magician, etc.

The list at the bottom which has links to cards that are part of that same archetype are missing. What's going on? —This unsigned comment was made by Makoeyes987 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

This was touched on two sections above. Something we were doing involving heavy SMW #ask queries was causing heavy strain on servers. SMW was disabled here because of that twice recently, which is why a lot of pages were appearing messed-up for a few days.

The archetype navboxes use a number of #ask queries on thousands of pages, so they've been removed temporarily to see if they were what was causing the problem. If they're not causing the problem, they'll be re-added. If they are, we'll make a new system that uses less #ask queries. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:53, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Top Decks page

Is there a page about what Konami currently has listed for the top decks from YCS or regionals? If there is, where can I find it? If not, would it be worth it to make one for this year, and as many past years as possible so people can see the progression of decks, and see which types stay around the longest? Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 21:25, December 20, 2010 (UTC)