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| [[Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos]]
 
| [[Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos]]
| rowspan="4" | Incredibly powerful Dragon monsters. Can be Special Summoned easily from the hand or Graveyard by banishing any 2 Dragon monsters and/or monsters of their same Attributes from the hand or Graveyard. Can be put into just about any Dragon Deck, or Deck of their own Attributes, to add huge power and consistency. At more than 1, they can search another copy of themselves when they're banished to Summon another Dragon Ruler, or when banished with [[Sacred Sword of Seven Stars]] or [[Gold Sarcophagus]]. Can be used in OTKs with [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon]] (also Forbidden), as one can simply dump 3 Rulers into the Graveyard when Summoning it, allowing the Rulers to be revived or to search other Dragon monsters. Tempest is Limited in the OCG.
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| rowspan="3" | 3 members of the [[Dragon Ruler]] series of incredibly powerful Dragon monsters (the other, Tempest, is Limited). Can be Special Summoned easily from the hand or Graveyard by banishing any 2 Dragon monsters and/or monsters of their same Attributes from the hand or Graveyard. Can be put into just about any Dragon Deck, or Deck of their own Attributes, to add huge power and consistency. At more than 1, they can search another copy of themselves when they're banished to Summon another Dragon Ruler, or when banished with [[Sacred Sword of Seven Stars]] or [[Gold Sarcophagus]]. Can be used in OTKs with [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon]] (also Forbidden), as one can simply dump 3 Rulers into the Graveyard when Summoning it, allowing the Rulers to be revived or to search other Dragon monsters.
 
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| [[Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders]]
 
| [[Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders]]
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| [[Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms]]
 
 
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| [[Tidal, Dragon Ruler of Waterfalls]]
 
| [[Tidal, Dragon Ruler of Waterfalls]]
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| [[Double Iris Magician]]
 
| [[Double Iris Magician]]
 
| Key card in Pendulum Magicians. Easily pulled from the Deck and thrown straight into the Extra Deck by [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]]. Searches the powerful [[Pendulumgraph]] cards when it is destroyed (e.g. by [[Wavering Eyes]], the Electrumite that Summoned it, or another Pendulumgraph), which enables further searching. This card is Limited in the OCG.
 
| Key card in Pendulum Magicians. Easily pulled from the Deck and thrown straight into the Extra Deck by [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]]. Searches the powerful [[Pendulumgraph]] cards when it is destroyed (e.g. by [[Wavering Eyes]], the Electrumite that Summoned it, or another Pendulumgraph), which enables further searching. This card is Limited in the OCG.
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| [[Eclipse Wyvern]]
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| Banishes a Level 7 or higher Dragon from the Deck when sent to the Graveyard, and recovers that monster when banished. No once-per-turn restriction on either effect. Banished monster (and Wyvern itself) can be recovered with [[Guardragon Pisty]]. Key to [[Guardragon]] combo-based decks that topped in early summer 2019. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
 
| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
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| [[Tellarknight Ptolemaeus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Ptolemaeus</font>]]
 
| [[Tellarknight Ptolemaeus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Ptolemaeus</font>]]
 
| <span style="color: white">Generic Rank 4 Xyz Monster that can be made with up to 5 Level 4 monsters, and can Summon a Rank 5 Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck by detaching 3 materials and using itself as Xyz Material (and is chainable). Mainly Forbidden for being able to Summon strong monsters that shouldn't normally be possible for most Decks, such as [[Constellar Pleiades|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Pleiades</font>]], [[Cyber Dragon Nova|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Nova</font>]] (which is then used to Summon [[Cyber Dragon Infinity|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Infinity</font>]]), and [[Outer Entity Azathot|<font color="99CCFF">Outer Entity Azathot</font>]]. [[Tellarknight Vatlamyus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Vatlamyus</font>]] was designed to replace this card.</span>
 
| <span style="color: white">Generic Rank 4 Xyz Monster that can be made with up to 5 Level 4 monsters, and can Summon a Rank 5 Xyz Monster from your Extra Deck by detaching 3 materials and using itself as Xyz Material (and is chainable). Mainly Forbidden for being able to Summon strong monsters that shouldn't normally be possible for most Decks, such as [[Constellar Pleiades|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Pleiades</font>]], [[Cyber Dragon Nova|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Nova</font>]] (which is then used to Summon [[Cyber Dragon Infinity|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Dragon Infinity</font>]]), and [[Outer Entity Azathot|<font color="99CCFF">Outer Entity Azathot</font>]]. [[Tellarknight Vatlamyus|<font color="#99CCFF">Tellarknight Vatlamyus</font>]] was designed to replace this card.</span>
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| [[The Phantom Knights of Rusty Bardiche|<font color="#99CCFF">The Phantom Knights of Rusty Bardiche</font>]]
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| <span style="color: white">Highly versatile, allowing the setup of many disruptive plays. Summoning condition requires only DARK monsters, allowing it to be accessed with cards like [[Orcust|<font color="#99CCFF">Orcust</font>]] [[Danger!|<font color="#99CCFF">Danger!</font>]], [[Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Burning Abyss</font>]], etc. Searches 2 [[Phantom Knights|<font color="#99CCFF">Phantom Knights</font>]] cards straight out of your Deck without any cost. A typical combo is to dump [[The Phantom Knights of Silent Boots|<font color="#99CCFF">The Phantom Knights of Silent Boots</font>]] - which, when banished, can search [[Phantom Knights' Fog Blade|<font color="#99CCFF">Phantom Knights' Fog Blade</font>]] - and Set another Fog Blade, for two monster negates. Access to destruction when you Xyz Summon a DARK monster, which isn't hard either and can lead to serious disruption when combined with the likes of [[Outer Entity Azathot|<font color="#99CCFF">Azathot</font>]] or [[D/D/D Duo-Dawn King Kali Yuga|<font color="#99CCFF">Kali Yuga</font>]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.</span>
 
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| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
 
| [[The Tyrant Neptune]]
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| [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal|<font color="#99CCFF">Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal</font>]]
 
| [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal|<font color="#99CCFF">Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal</font>]]
 
| <span style="color: white">Very good Rank 6 Xyz Monster with a fantastic effect. Can easily be Xyz Summoned in [[Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Burning Abyss</font>]] Decks by using [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss</font>]] (Limited in the OCG) as Xyz Material (albeit with the downside of its [[Quick Effect|<font color="#99CCFF">Quick Effect</font>]] not being usable that turn), and can send any card from your Deck to the Graveyard during either player's turn, allowing you to search out Limited cards like [[Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Graff</font>]] or [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Cir</font>]], or interrupt your opponent's plays by sending [[Farfa, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Farfa</font>]], [[Alich, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Alich</font>]], or [[Mischief of the Gnomes|<font color="#99CCFF">Mischief of the Gnomes</font>]] from your Deck to the Graveyard. It can also replace itself with [[Dante, Pilgrim of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Dante, Pilgrim of the Burning Abyss</font>]] when it dies. Even more abusable in non-Burning Abyss Decks since its Quick Effect can be used right away, and even chained to cards like [[Bottomless Trap Hole|<font color="#99CCFF">Bottomless Trap Hole</font>]], [[Compulsory Evacuation Device|<font color="#99CCFF">Compulsory Evacuation Device</font>]], and [[Torrential Tribute|<font color="#99CCFF">Torrential Tribute</font>]]. It can also mill [[Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force|<font color="#99ccff">Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force</font>]] (Forbidden) to be added to the hand to easily Summon [[Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL|<font color="#99ccff">Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL</font>]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.</span>
 
| <span style="color: white">Very good Rank 6 Xyz Monster with a fantastic effect. Can easily be Xyz Summoned in [[Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Burning Abyss</font>]] Decks by using [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss</font>]] (Limited in the OCG) as Xyz Material (albeit with the downside of its [[Quick Effect|<font color="#99CCFF">Quick Effect</font>]] not being usable that turn), and can send any card from your Deck to the Graveyard during either player's turn, allowing you to search out Limited cards like [[Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Graff</font>]] or [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Cir</font>]], or interrupt your opponent's plays by sending [[Farfa, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Farfa</font>]], [[Alich, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Alich</font>]], or [[Mischief of the Gnomes|<font color="#99CCFF">Mischief of the Gnomes</font>]] from your Deck to the Graveyard. It can also replace itself with [[Dante, Pilgrim of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Dante, Pilgrim of the Burning Abyss</font>]] when it dies. Even more abusable in non-Burning Abyss Decks since its Quick Effect can be used right away, and even chained to cards like [[Bottomless Trap Hole|<font color="#99CCFF">Bottomless Trap Hole</font>]], [[Compulsory Evacuation Device|<font color="#99CCFF">Compulsory Evacuation Device</font>]], and [[Torrential Tribute|<font color="#99CCFF">Torrential Tribute</font>]]. It can also mill [[Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force|<font color="#99ccff">Rank-Up-Magic Argent Chaos Force</font>]] (Forbidden) to be added to the hand to easily Summon [[Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL|<font color="#99ccff">Number S0: Utopic ZEXAL</font>]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.</span>
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| [[Black Dragon Collapserpent]]
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| rowspan="2" | A pair of monsters with powerful complementary effects. Can be Special Summoned by banishing the other from the Graveyard, and searches the other when sent to the Graveyard; notably, there is no restriction on the latter effect. Having either of these pretty much guarantees a full [[Guardragon]] combo. At 1 each, the consistency is far more limited. These cards are Unlimited in the OCG.
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| [[White Dragon Wyverbuster]]
 
|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
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| [[Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird]]
 
| [[Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird]]
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| [[Supreme King Dragon Darkwurm]]
 
| [[Supreme King Dragon Darkwurm]]
 
| Its Special Summoning effect is used in Pendulum Magicians and several other Pendulum focused Decks as a way to get [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]] out easily without using the Pendulum Summon, which enables plays involving [[Double Iris Magician]] (also Limited in the OCG and banned in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
| Its Special Summoning effect is used in Pendulum Magicians and several other Pendulum focused Decks as a way to get [[Heavymetalfoes Electrumite]] out easily without using the Pendulum Summon, which enables plays involving [[Double Iris Magician]] (also Limited in the OCG and banned in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| [[Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms]]
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| The only [[Dragon Ruler]] not to be Forbidden. All of the others' strengths apply, but due to WIND support being much more limited than for other Attributes, this card is considered safer to be allowed.
 
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|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
| [[Thunder Dragon Colossus]]
 
| [[Thunder Dragon Colossus]]

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Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

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This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.
This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.
Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).
And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.
See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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