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Hey guys, just a quick (hopefully) proposal. Another user [[User:Dinoguy1000|Dinoguy1000]] wants to perform a couple of tasks with AWB (Auto Wiki Browser). What's this? Auto Wiki Browser is a tool editors use to perform repetitive tasks. For example:
 
Hey guys, just a quick (hopefully) proposal. Another user [[User:Dinoguy1000|Dinoguy1000]] wants to perform a couple of tasks with AWB (Auto Wiki Browser). What's this? Auto Wiki Browser is a tool editors use to perform repetitive tasks. For example:
* Supposing the name of an article got changed (e.g. Nazca Gods → Earthbound Gods → Earthbound Immortals). If you wanted to change all pages that still call them "Earthbound Gods". It'd be a long and tedious task. Whereas AWB can be used to sutomatically perform these tasks much quicker.
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* Supposing the name of an article got changed (e.g. Nazca Gods → Earthbound Gods → Earthbound Immortals). If you wanted to change all pages that still call them "Earthbound Gods". It'd be a long and tedious task. Whereas AWB can be used to automatically perform these tasks much quicker.
 
* Or imagine you wanted to add or remove something like category from a couple of hundred pages. AWB can do it much faster.
 
* Or imagine you wanted to add or remove something like category from a couple of hundred pages. AWB can do it much faster.
  
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So please let us know if you're in favour or against. And feel free to leave comments or questions. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 18:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
So please let us know if you're in favour or against. And feel free to leave comments or questions. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 18:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
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=== Support ===
 
* [[User:D.Kaiser|D.Kaiser]]
 
* [[User:D.Kaiser|D.Kaiser]]
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* [[User:Mpanty|Mpanty]]
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* [[User:Bluedog187|Bluedog187]]
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* [[User:PoirotH|PoirotH]]
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* [[User:Trivi-AM|Trivi-AM]]
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* [[User:Hydronic|Hydronic]]
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* [[User:Messengerofthedark|Messengerofthedark]]
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* [[User:Azure Knight-Zeo|Azure Knight-Zeo]]
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* [[User:Rodtheanimegod4ever|Rodtheanimegod4ever]] 19:55, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
  
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===Discussion===
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Before I give my vote, I would like to know: what exactly does this user plan to do with the AWB? Are the changes he makes reversible (in case of a mistake)? Is this user really trustworthy - I'm asking this because I haven't really seen him do much around this Wikia and I find it suspicious that a user suddenly asks for this sort of thing. Please forgive me if I sound paranoid.[[User:PoirotH|PoirotH]] 18:04, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
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:By all means, please be suspicious of me and my motives - if I can't properly assuage your fears, I shouldn't be trusted with this, after all. =) A list of current tasks I plan on doing with AWB can be found at [[User:Dinobot1000#Current tasks]], although they're rather open-ended at this time. All changes I would make would be easily reversible via "undo" or "revert", and unless I'm mistaken, it's possible to mass-revert changes made by a particular user (never having needed to do so myself, though, I can't really say how it's done). As for who I am and where I'm from, I spend most of my time on Wikipedia as [[wikipedia:User:Dinoguy1000|Dinoguy1000]], where I am an administrator. Because of this, I usually don't spend a great deal of time on here (indeed, it's not unusual for me to go months at a time without even looking at this wiki), but I have been semi-active here in the past, in particular contributing to [[Template:CardTable2]] (something I'd like to look into again at some point) some in late 2007/early 2008. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 18:15, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
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::Thank you for your speedy reply as well as for your neatly detailed answers. I must say, you are quite eloquent, a quality I rarely see in this Wikia.[[User:PoirotH|PoirotH]] 18:20, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
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:::You're welcome, but if there's one thing anime and manga has taught me, it's to never trust the eloquent guy - he's usually EVUL. XD <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 17:06, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
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we could do a bot for different archive like lightsworns and blackwing and glads?[[User:Blackwingggys|Blackwingggys]]
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:I'm really not sure what you're asking here... I can run different bot tasks, though. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 16:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
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So let me get this straight, you want to update names and get rid of deleted posts?  Also what do you mean by the 1st one?  I'm not really a tech editing guy like most users, I just run things in the background like spell checks as well as trivia and tips.  Can you translate the 1st thing you have on you're "to do list"? --[[User:Azure Knight-Zeo|Azure Knight-Zeo]] 23:17, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
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:Sort of. The deleting aspect of what I want to do isn't actually deleting, but removing links which point to deleted pages, usually to prevent their recreation. The first item on my tasks list ("Tagging redirects with {{tl|R from card number}}, {{tl|R from set abbr}}, and {{tl|R from set number}}") is a bit harder to explain, but I'll try anyways: a redirect is basically a page which shuttles you directly to another page, without presenting you with options for other pages to go to (for a really imperfect analogy, imagine a slide - no matter how many times you go down it, it always leaves you in the same place, and you shouldn't stop anywhere along the way to that place once you've moved off the platform at the top). Now, other than this, redirects are just like any other page on the wiki - you can view them directly if you know how (using the redirect [[LOB-001]] as an example, its URL is http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/LOB-001 , and the URL for viewing it directly is http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&redirect=no - note the text "redirect=no" in the second URL), and can edit them just like any other page (continuing with the previous example, the URL for editing [[LOB-001]] is http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&action=edit - just like any other page). My first task, then, involves editing redirects to place templates on them which categorizes them all in one place, to make maintenance and the like easier. For instance, [[LOB-001]] is a set number (at least, I don't recall any other terminology for it), so I would edit it and add the text <code><nowiki>{{R from set number}}</nowiki></code> after the redirect code (which is, itself, <code><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Blue-Eyes White Dragon]]</nowiki></code>). This adds some text for anyone viewing the redirect which briefly explains what it is (well, it would if the parser worked on redirect pages, but that's getting technical again...), and also places the redirect into the category [[:Category:Set number redirects]]. To help illustrate, I tagged LOB-001 like I described - you can see the change [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&diff=805542&oldid=643850 here], and the tagged redirect [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&redirect=no here]. Sorry for the lengthy reply, but it was kinda necessary  to properly explain myself. All the same, if there's still something you don't understand, please feel free to ask, and I'll answer to the best of my abilities. =) <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 16:03, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
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::Ok I think I get it, thanks --[[User:Azure Knight-Zeo|Azure Knight-Zeo]] 21:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
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==Done==
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The bot flag has been [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3ADinobot1000+&year=&month=-1 added]. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 22:33, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks to everyone who commented on or supported this proposal! =) <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千?!</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 17:12, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:10, 30 July 2010


Hey guys, just a quick (hopefully) proposal. Another user Dinoguy1000 wants to perform a couple of tasks with AWB (Auto Wiki Browser). What's this? Auto Wiki Browser is a tool editors use to perform repetitive tasks. For example:

  • Supposing the name of an article got changed (e.g. Nazca Gods → Earthbound Gods → Earthbound Immortals). If you wanted to change all pages that still call them "Earthbound Gods". It'd be a long and tedious task. Whereas AWB can be used to automatically perform these tasks much quicker.
  • Or imagine you wanted to add or remove something like category from a couple of hundred pages. AWB can do it much faster.

Of course there's a downside to this. Supposing you wanted to check the recent changes to see new editions being made. If somebody's using AWB, you're going to see a massive flood of edits that are mostly the same, making it harder to see other changes. To prevent this accounts that are used to perform massive repetitive tasks are often given a bot flag. This will cause any edits it makes to not appear on the recent changes unless you click "show bots".

I'd like if we could give the account Dinobot1000 a bot flag. But before it can get one, the rest of the community should be okay with it.

Reasons you may be against it would be: You may see it as edits would be made "behind people's backs". Unless you check for bot edits or look at its contributions, you won't know what edits it's making.

we have another bot: AnimeBot, operated by Dantman. It's mostly been synching templates and technical pages from the ACG network.

For more information, you can look at Wikipedia's page on bots.

So please let us know if you're in favour or against. And feel free to leave comments or questions. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Support[edit]

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Discussion[edit]

Before I give my vote, I would like to know: what exactly does this user plan to do with the AWB? Are the changes he makes reversible (in case of a mistake)? Is this user really trustworthy - I'm asking this because I haven't really seen him do much around this Wikia and I find it suspicious that a user suddenly asks for this sort of thing. Please forgive me if I sound paranoid.PoirotH 18:04, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

By all means, please be suspicious of me and my motives - if I can't properly assuage your fears, I shouldn't be trusted with this, after all. =) A list of current tasks I plan on doing with AWB can be found at User:Dinobot1000#Current tasks, although they're rather open-ended at this time. All changes I would make would be easily reversible via "undo" or "revert", and unless I'm mistaken, it's possible to mass-revert changes made by a particular user (never having needed to do so myself, though, I can't really say how it's done). As for who I am and where I'm from, I spend most of my time on Wikipedia as Dinoguy1000, where I am an administrator. Because of this, I usually don't spend a great deal of time on here (indeed, it's not unusual for me to go months at a time without even looking at this wiki), but I have been semi-active here in the past, in particular contributing to Template:CardTable2 (something I'd like to look into again at some point) some in late 2007/early 2008. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 18:15, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your speedy reply as well as for your neatly detailed answers. I must say, you are quite eloquent, a quality I rarely see in this Wikia.PoirotH 18:20, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome, but if there's one thing anime and manga has taught me, it's to never trust the eloquent guy - he's usually EVUL. XD ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 17:06, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

we could do a bot for different archive like lightsworns and blackwing and glads?Blackwingggys

I'm really not sure what you're asking here... I can run different bot tasks, though. ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 16:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

So let me get this straight, you want to update names and get rid of deleted posts? Also what do you mean by the 1st one? I'm not really a tech editing guy like most users, I just run things in the background like spell checks as well as trivia and tips. Can you translate the 1st thing you have on you're "to do list"? --Azure Knight-Zeo 23:17, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sort of. The deleting aspect of what I want to do isn't actually deleting, but removing links which point to deleted pages, usually to prevent their recreation. The first item on my tasks list ("Tagging redirects with {{R from card number}}, {{R from set abbr}}, and {{R from set number}}") is a bit harder to explain, but I'll try anyways: a redirect is basically a page which shuttles you directly to another page, without presenting you with options for other pages to go to (for a really imperfect analogy, imagine a slide - no matter how many times you go down it, it always leaves you in the same place, and you shouldn't stop anywhere along the way to that place once you've moved off the platform at the top). Now, other than this, redirects are just like any other page on the wiki - you can view them directly if you know how (using the redirect LOB-001 as an example, its URL is http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/LOB-001 , and the URL for viewing it directly is http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&redirect=no - note the text "redirect=no" in the second URL), and can edit them just like any other page (continuing with the previous example, the URL for editing LOB-001 is http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=LOB-001&action=edit - just like any other page). My first task, then, involves editing redirects to place templates on them which categorizes them all in one place, to make maintenance and the like easier. For instance, LOB-001 is a set number (at least, I don't recall any other terminology for it), so I would edit it and add the text {{R from set number}} after the redirect code (which is, itself, #REDIRECT [[Blue-Eyes White Dragon]]). This adds some text for anyone viewing the redirect which briefly explains what it is (well, it would if the parser worked on redirect pages, but that's getting technical again...), and also places the redirect into the category Category:Set number redirects. To help illustrate, I tagged LOB-001 like I described - you can see the change here, and the tagged redirect here. Sorry for the lengthy reply, but it was kinda necessary to properly explain myself. All the same, if there's still something you don't understand, please feel free to ask, and I'll answer to the best of my abilities. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 16:03, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Ok I think I get it, thanks --Azure Knight-Zeo 21:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Done[edit]

The bot flag has been added. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:33, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone who commented on or supported this proposal! =) ダイノガイ千?!? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 17:12, September 29, 2009 (UTC)