User:Becasita/SubPages/TalkPage/Archives/2016/December

RE: Replacing files

In my defense, I have been working on replacing the links. I was called away for a little bit. TheycallmeBrick (talk • contribs) 03:51, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

"Star Eater" tips

Yes, I am the one who edited Star Eater's webpage. Just to clarify, I was NOT trying to troll anyone. I was only trying to give solid advice on how it could be used in a Dragon Ruler deck. And I apologize for any inconveniences I have caused. I was only trying to help.--RedEyesBurn69 (talk • contribs) 21:04, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough. I have to confess I didn't notice your tip was placed under the "Traditional" header; my bad. In any case, please don't write tips that contain value judgments like "being one of the most powerful Synchro monsters in existence" and don't try to simulate too much emphasis, like "FOUR". Please keep it impersonal and feasible. Personally, I like complicated wombo combos, but your tip just relied on too much situational set-up; it was too far-fetched. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:31, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

Category rename

As per your suggestion, I moved the Equipped cannot attack category to Prevents equipped monster from attacking. I think it sounds better that way, personally. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 22:00, December 6, 2016 (UTC))

Korean ScR in old booster pack

Several years since yugioh started in Korea in 2003, ScR cards in Korean have a diagonal pattern.(like TCG) However, this policy was changed in June 2011(Not sure...?). ScR cards in PP06-KR are prismatic pattern, and almost ScR cards have been released in Korea after that are prismatic pattern.(Except EP15-KR). it is already five years past, but related to this, I want to talk with you.

from this fact, the problem is that this changed policy also applies to the old booster pack.(which was first released before June 2011) See these 2 images. A B same pack, same rarity, but shapes are different. If my guess is correct, this could be said because A was probably produced before the change, and B was produced after the change. and... I found evidence to support my guess. :[1](Judgment of Anubis, Prior to change.) [2] (Yata-Garasu, before & After.) on several Korean websites, including this blog, I was able to find korean PScR cards image despite these cards from the old pack.

Therefore, I think that the PScR card image from old Korean pack, which has been uploaded to this wikia, should be renamed.(like blabla~KR-ScR-UE-Reprint.png or blabla~KR-PScR-UE.png?)(for that reason, it seems to exist only on the UE card.)

However, I do not think I can upload such cards. I have not been in this game for two years, so I do not have old cards and I won't buy those packs unless I have a special reason.Ygco8888 (talk • contribs) 15:26, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

On my search for Korean images, I've come across a couple of cases like that; it seemed suspicious, but I never gave it enough importance. Is that fact mentioned here, regarding the ESP2 images? I thought it was just some kind of misprint.

This is great information. Thanks! Instead of using -Reprint, ones will be uploaded as -ScR whereas the others will be uploaded as -PScR, mostlikely (however, if all Secret Rare cards in Korean started to be like that, we may not make a distinction between ScR ones and PScR, since all PScR ones are now ScR (except for EP15)). Let me bring this to the other admins, so we can try to see what's the best approach to take and where to display which cards, etc..

Thank you very much for letting me know! Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:45, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Ygco8888, I've granted you mover rights. We are going to name the images with -PScR (instead of Reprint). Having mover rights, gives you the possibility to help us putting everything into place, if you'd like to help. Please read this before you start moving files. If you have any question (even a minimum doubt), please don't hesitate in contacting me or any other admin.

In cases like the one with "Judgment of Anubis", do not use the Rename and update/Add to queue options; just simply rename it and then add the renamed image to the correct set gallery (under a "Prismatic Secret Rares" sub-header) and to the individual card gallery (this would be optimal; I ask you to please add it to at least one of those places). I've renamed the "Judgment of Anubis" one (again: without the Rename and update/Add to queue options) and added it to the correct place (on the set gallery; on the card gallery).

For cases where the card doesn't have a regular Secret Rare print and only has the Prismatic Secret Rare print (like this "Book of Moon"), the Rename and update/Add to queue can and should be used (unless you want to update the links manually, while correcting the text for the rarity).

Of course, I'm saying all this, but you don't have to help. In any case, if you feel like helping, you have all the necessary tools. Again, any question you may have, feel free to throw it at me. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:10, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, thank you for your(and other admin's) decision. As I mentioned above, what I can do with this work is so limited, but I will do what I can.

However, there is another question in your example. I would like to use PP06-KR as a reference point, as mentioned above. but PGD-KRPR cards are released after that, therefore, I don't think that image is the object to be renamed. Ygco8888 (talk • contribs) 14:16, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome!

Well, you said they started being printed as PScR after June 2011. That "Book of Moon" was printed after that date. Besides, if you look at the pattern, it's vertical/horizontal (instead of oblique). Since those are the characteristics of a Prismatic Secret Rare card, we will be treating them as such. Which means Korean cards stopped being printed as Secret Rares and started being printed as Prismatic Secret Rares. However, it's possible they are still addressed as "Secret Rares" by official Korean commercials and such. If it's not asking too much, would you be able to check such info, please? Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 14:28, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

In 2015, there was a renewal on the official website of Korea. and the record of that time also disappeared. but, I heard that users who played at that time did not receive any notice. and there was no difference between the phrases written on box or pack before PP06 and after. Is that a problem with this? I knew that there were cards of different shapes in the same pack, therefore, I suggested to you to distinguished from other images.Ygco8888 (talk • contribs) 15:15, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

The thing is, since the cards now present a pattern like the Prismatic Secret Rare cards do, we thought it would make more sense to present them as PScR. Hence why I moved that "Book of Moon", even though it never had a regular Secret Rare release. However, if they are still being addressed as "Secret Rares" by official sources (like what's written on the packs), we may have a problem here, since that's still official information. I even changed it on the card page.

What is your opinion? Would you think it makes more sense to tag, for instance, that "Book of Moon" (and cards like File:AmazonessChainMaster-MFC-KR-PScR-UE.png), considering they never had a regular Secret Rare print, as -ScR or -PScR? Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:50, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Different Way

I saw your temp for "Nirvana High Paladin", and I will admit I like where you're going with this. However, I would suggest you find a way to make the text for its statuses easier to read. I didn't change anything; but if you include ocg = Semi-Limited in the coding and then did a preview, you'll see what I mean. Hope this helps! --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 23:35, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if this is too much to ask; but if you'd let me, would you let me use that kind of code you just made for the Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Maker Wiki? If so, I might ask you to do it for me, since I don't think I'd be able to do what you did (because chances are, I'd have the "statuses" removed, since chances are they won't be real cards anytime soon. Then again, this might change and I'd let you know). I'll still be sure to properly credit you, though! --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 03:33, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

Hope I don't sound rude, but I have a feeling I'll have to wait on this one. And like I said, if you've perfected it, I may ask you to do it instead of me, because looking at its coding, there's still plenty of coding even I wouldn't expect to comprehend. --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 13:46, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

That's fine; take as much time as you need. I'm in no hurry, really. --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 02:33, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Just looked back at it, and I think you might be on to something this time! All you need to do is find a way to remove those "missing hyperlink" things (the stuff with the red text), and you might be home free. --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 01:28, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I was referring to the red hyperlinks where the categories are. Sorry for the confusion on that part. Still, do you think you are ready to ask the admins if they could post real-life cards in that format? --Yes, it's PSYCHID! ^{He talks! He does stuff!} 03:50, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Korean Anime galleries reply

I thought the Korean airdates were about the same as Japan and that there is a Korean dub of the series, which is why I added the Korean anime galleries to their respective card galleries. There was no complaints previously. The Korean airdates are probably different from the Japanese airdates, so I will probably halt on this for a bit. I wasn't doing anything wrong but I will probably wait on this for a bit since I should wait until the official episodes are declared as aired in Korea (no telling how I will know that since I only know Japan and USA's airdates.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 00:05, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Set order reply

I already know beginner's Edition 2 and the first two structure decks were released on the same day, but I thought there should be a consistency with beginner's Edition 2 being placed before the first two structure decks. Another Gallery that could relate to this issue would be "Magic Jammer".Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 03:05, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

"Tuning Magician" tip

How about this for tuning magician. If you use it to weaken number 35 ravenous tarantula then number 35's effect will deal you another 600 points of damage and lower its attack points by 1400 in total. Fair enough? Seraph&Cherub (talk • contribs) 00:36, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessary. You're damaging yourself to lower the ATK/DEF of a monster (more: a specific one only)? No, it's too unnecessary. Sure, "Tuning Magician" lowers its ATK/DEF, but there are better cards to lower its ATK/DEF stat and there's no need to mention them all. People won't play "Tuning Magician" to drop the ATK/DEF of "Number 35".

Saying the effect of "Number 35" will even deal 600 more damage thus decreasing its own stats, means:

• "Tuning Magician" has to be Special Summoned, which will only happen in a "Magician" deck (where they don't care if they are using "Tuning Magician" to manipulate the stats of "Number 35" or not), or in decks that, for some reason, run it and also run reviving cards they can afford to waste on "Tuning Magician";
• The player controlling "Number 35" will have to have less LP than the opponent, which may not always happen.

In fact, that suggestion of yours only works if the player controlling "Number 35" has less LP than the one controlling "Tuning Magician".

It's really too situational. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:56, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

How about my last two edits with Prime Material Dragon, Nurse, and Bad Reaction. Do they work? —This unsigned comment was made by Seraph&Cherub (talk • contribs) 04:18, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

How about my last edit to tuning magician. Does that work for you?

Seraph&Cherub (talk • contribs) 12:45, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

They work, yeah. Personally, I don't mind those. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:11, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Moves

Yes, well, sorry about that. I had no clue what that template was being used for, since I rarely ever edit anime episode duel summaries. I was under the impression that the Pendulum Scale image on those duel summaries was an image file rather than an actual template (especially since card article pages weren't affected in the manner you described). I thought the template I moved was some dummy file from ages ago as a result. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 02:32, December 17, 2016 (UTC))

Yeah, I was aware the card articles used the actual image. I had the impression that the anime episode articles did as well for their duel summaries, rather than encapsulating the image in a template. I know about What Links Here and have been aware of it since I joined the wiki, I just didn't check it, given that an image like those Pendulum Scales must probably be on hundreds of pages, which won't really help all that much. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 13:42, December 17, 2016 (UTC))

ZEXAL Portals

Hello, Like for the other series, I made a portal for ZEXAL, and created the pages to go with it. Now i don't really see the aim of portals if there is not a direct link in the "top bar" just like the Characters section.

Also, am i allowed to create sub-portals for things like Number, Groups, Tournaments, Abilities... that goes with the ZEXAL Universe ?

Last but not least: should i put the

{{main|Portal:Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL}} and {{Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL}}

on all the sub-portals ?

Hopefully i am clear, thanks.--Yes42 (talk • contribs) 12:40, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Hi there. I like your idea; makes sense, in my opinion. Now, it requires the header to be re-organized. Or links to them could be placed on the main page too, perhaps. Let me talk with the other admins to see how we can arrange that.

Huum, I don't know; we already have pages for the "Number", for instance; so I'm not sure if we would gain enough with having those portals too. For tournaments and abilities, might be useful.

Yes, linking to the main Portal makes sense. The navbox gives access to stuff, so it's fine by me.

I'll talk with other admins and you'll get better answers. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:11, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Becasista. I'm ThoththeAtlantean at your service. It's pleasure to talk and meet you but you know what I mean. I do a good job on the pages of the Wikias to make them alot more sense and clear. Even when it comes to information and photos I'll help with that too.

ThoththeAtlantean (talk • contribs) 04:14, December 21, 2016 (UTC)ThoththeAtlanteanThoththeAtlantean (talk • contribs) 04:14, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Hello there. Thanks for dropping by. It's always good to have well intentioned users contributing around! If you need any help, feel free to leave me a message. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:54, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

New images

heeeeeeey i need your help, how do i get to see all the new images in the wiki??

--DTHIRD (talk • contribs) 13:20, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

Hello. You can check the recently uploaded images at Special:Images. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:23, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

Talk page

Is the talk page here because I don't know? That's why I just left the message at the page.Magusjosh (talk • contribs) 02:22, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

This is my talk page. If you want to contact a user, you usually leave a message on their talk page. Just like users, the other pages have talk pages (talk pages do not have talk pages). So if you want to point something about a page, you can leave a message on that page's talk page and hope people see it. For "Phantom Knights", the talk page is Talk:Phantom Knights. Next to the "Edit" button, there's a button saying "Page Help". That button leads you to the talk page. You can read more info at Help:Talk pages. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 03:30, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks, I was about to ask the editor who deleted my whole addition to at least leave the box contents part. I knew the Ratios addition would surely get deleted so I was only testing it for possible future additions, and now I know better not to add it. But I will keep adding the Box information for future boxes I open. Erdvilla (talk • contribs) 16:53, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I don't mind the packs-per-box info; some sets also list it. The other info you added is subjective, hence why it shouldn't be listed.

Thanks for the info; if I can help you with anything, feel free to leave me a message. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:10, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Kotori Mizuki

Can you finish adding the Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL Volume 9 piece in the Kotori Mizuki (manga) article because I still don't have the manga please and thank you.

--Torimay24 (talk • contribs) 22:07, December 27, 2016 (UTC)Torimay24

I've got the manga out from the library at current, so I can sort that out. Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 22:12, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Property categories

Well, I don't know what the actual demand for such a category is, to be honest, but I would find it helpful myself. But then again, I could be outside the norm, since I make a lot of card searches that possibly many other people do not. But like I said, I don't think the majority of "lingering cards" (the classifications of cards defined in the category) have this trait in the first place (and looking through the card database would demonstrate that), so I don't think it's overly general, per se. But as I said, if really there's no big need for this category and you think it might cause issues down the road, then I won't oppose its removal. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:39, December 30, 2016 (UTC))

To amend my comment, I think it's only general if you look at it in the context of Spells and Traps as a whole (since almost all Normal Spells and Traps have effects that activate when the card is activated, and that's by design). But if you look at it from the context of the classifications of cards listed in the category's description, I don't think it's as general as you've mentioned, and a look through the card database would show it. Not trying to offend you or anything, just clarifying what I'm trying to say. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:47, December 30, 2016 (UTC))

Well, take a look at my latest comment on UltimateKuriboh's talk page. I've make categories that I don't think many people might search for, such as Overwrites card effects and Places cards underneath itself, but I elaborate more on that in my comment to him. I understand what you mean by deck building. To clarify, when I say I would find it helpful, it's because I make long lists of cards myself with traits other people might find quirky for personal reasons such as writing duels for fanfiction and also, deck building (at the very least, that's my perspective). Maybe I'm weird that way then and you can consider me the resident eccentric on the wiki. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 00:52, December 30, 2016 (UTC))

Regarding Places cards underneath itself, I think it's one of the more quirky categories, but I would keep it partly because there are a number of anime and manga cards with that characteristic, and there's clear demarcation regarding what the category is supposed to encompass. I know of some acquaintances who use some of these categories to search obscure anime/manga cards for use in fanfiction, but whether or not that is a justifiable reason to keep such categories is debatable. I know there are some admins who have placed card pages in some of the more unusual categories I have made, which I've sort of interpreted as implicit approval on their parts for the existence of the categories (or at the very least, they believe that the categories have a place on the wiki). I think that if there is a bunch of cards that share a characteristic that is pertinent to gameplay or stats (Level, ATK, DEF, number of required Materials), then it deserves a category. A card having exactly two effects is not a trait that is pertinent to gameplay (unless sometime in the future, we get cards with effects that care about how many effects other cards possess), and in my opinion, does not deserve a category. (Lucafriz (talk • contribs) 03:24, December 30, 2016 (UTC))

Lancers

I'm getting nothing from that other guy on the talk page. And for the record, you didn't have to lock it so soon. --Luckytrade (talk • contribs) 02:44, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Just give some time to the other user. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 02:49, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Any chance you could unlock the Lancers page? I won't try to revert it to what I had, not that I was going to anyway, until it's settled. --Luckytrade (talk • contribs) 23:42, January 2, 2017 (UTC)