User talk:Dinoguy1000/Archive/2011/05

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Personnal Image Use

Hey! I deleted all the pictures from my user page but i really feel like a Troll or a criminal when i see the message FredCat left on Falzar's user talk page... Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for you nice message and i will not do it again. Sorry. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 19:35, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Are you talking about User talk:Falzar FZ#Image Copyright? Don't worry about it; FredCat wasn't trying to be disparaging of you there, I think (he's not always able to make his meaning clear, since English isn't his first language, so sometimes it can be hard to tell if he's just making a statement or if there's something more behind his comment ;) ). As for the images, I'm glad you're so willing to remove them yourself, and hope this won't discourage you from continuing to edit. If you need help with anything, feel free to ask me! =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:32, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I actyally "created" the french yugioh wikia a few years ago (which is basically, like all others, the same kind of structure as this one but for french speaking person who really can't read english), so yeah, I know how to create all the gallery stuff but it's so boring lol... I just have a small amount of scans on this computer but I want to upload as many as i can before starting to touch the galleries itselves. --Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 22:42, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see that... =) That'll be fine, take your time. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Good day! I made a little mistake, this file: File:ScrapBeastDREV-FR-R-1E.jpg is actually unlimited edition (not first edition). Could you rename it? Thank you. Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 13:03, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Thought you should also know that Template:Rename media would probably be better to use. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Falzar. =D Also, Wilimut, there's {{OCG-TCG card image}}, which will automatically detect if the image is named correctly based on the information you provide it, and if not, mark the image for renaming (though since it relies on {{Set}}, which is woefully incomplete, it's gonna mark a *lot* as needing renamed until {{Set}} is fleshed out more (or I rejigger it some)). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 13:34, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Just a thought, if you own the card, wouldn't that allow more er... 'rights' over the copyright. AKA you can legally use it for more stuff than if you didn't own the card. (which is why I didn't say anything about it before Fredcat asked me; was trying to look it up, didn't find anything) -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:42, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I dont get your point falzar... Yes i do own all the cards that i upload but why would i have more rights about it since I can't technically prove that i own them? --Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 13:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Falzar: No, ownership isn't the same thing as copyright. To be sure, owning a physical copy of a card entitles you to do just about whatever you'd like with it (short of making other physical copies) - keep it, sell it, give it away, destroy it, etc. - but it doesn't grant you any special privileges on what you can do with the image/design of the card; you still have to abide by fair use. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:47, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I think this picture isn't really well nammed or even appropriate...: File:PotofDualityDREV-EN-ScR-UE.jpg Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 19:58, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also, what template should i use for files that people upload but are already on the wikia such as this one: File:Blue-Eyes_Shining_Dragon.jpg ? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 21:42, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

For duplicate/bad files, Template:Delete. For Pot of Duality, the previous version was UE (kinda), I'll make the DREV UE gallery some time. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:47, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bots and File names

After making a Category, would it be possible for a bot to go through the names of every file we have and add a category to them if they contain certain characters in the name? e.g. "Category:Tag Force Card Images"; for files containing "VG-TF" in the name.
So in the end, we'll end up with something similar to Category:Yu-Gi-Oh! World Championship Sprites but for those Tag Force images. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It should be (though it's not immediately obvious how to in AWB, for whatever reason). Keep in mind that part of the reason I'm developing {{OCG-TCG card image}}, though, is to eventually allow images to be auto-categorized (I plan on making more templates modeled after it; at the very least there'll be one for VG images (and actually, it may be easier for that to cover VG, anime, and manga images than to attempt to add animanga support to the current OCG/TCG template... hmm) and one for non-OCG/TCG card games) - I'm not against hardcoding the categories for now, but they'll need to be removed later. I'd also like to look into the feasibility of adding properties to images; I think we could do all sorts of crazy fun stuff with them if we can use SMW on them. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I see. I wasn't expecting VG images to be in that template, but since they are, it'll be fine to leave them as they are for now. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 07:46, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like you misread me; VG images aren't covered in {{OCG-TCG card image}}. I was saying I was planning another template, based on that one, for VG images. On the other hand, if you *did* correctly understand me, then I clearly misunderstood you, and you should feel free to smack me while clarifying yourself. =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about something.

Hi, just to be sure. this file should be named File:TheMaskedBeastLON-EN-UR-UE.jpg and this one should be named File:TheMaskedBeastLON-NA-UR-1E.jpg? Am I right or totally wrong? If I'm right, then the work we have to do is actually way bigger that what i thought lool... Compare to the wrong ones, it seems like there's just a few of well names files... Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 15:20, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, both of those renames are correct. I don't think the image policy has really been observed very closely until just recently, and even back when it was first instated, there were already a lot of files uploaded that sort of followed it, but never got renamed.

The method I was planning on using for cleaning up file naming would probably have been to just pick a set gallery and work through the whole thing, before moving on to the next, and I would have been creating missing galleries as I went. --Dinoguy1000 (talk • contribs) as 66.116.9.175 (talk) 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

What about Set that has different names in different languages. By that, i mean old sets such as LON (LDC in french). For those one I've uploaded a file under that kind of name : File:ExampleLON-FR-UR-UE.jpg. But for LOB (LDD in french), I've uploaded like this: File:ExampleLDD-FR-UR-UE.jpg. It is not written in the policy so I really don't know here what you prefer. I continue to upload under the name LDD until I got your answer. I would consider the second example, so it's more clear to anyone who look at the card. They won't be surprise to see different letters than it's announced in the name! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 07:12, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

That's a good question. I could see a convincing argument for either way, since we note the region/language in the image name as well as the set... You may want to ask Delt for his opinion. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It might be safest to use the languages' local prefix. The contents of sets can sometimes vary between languages, so for some sets (e.g. SD16 and SDSC and the two Structure Deck: Mariks) it could be argued over whether they're different sets or different language versions of the same set.

But as you said there's probably many more arguments for both cases. Like SDM can refer to the Japanese Structure Deck: Marik or the Italian Spell Ruler. And how does this decision affect your {{OCG-TCG card image}} templates? -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm also thinking that using the languages' local prefix is the best system. If a new user wants to upload a card subject to this problem, he would name it with the prefix written on the card itself rather than having to search for the correct prefix if he doesn't know... Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 14:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

"And how does this decision affect your {{OCG-TCG card image}} templates?" - It shouldn't. The template that would actually be affected would be {{Set}}, and precisely this situation fed into my decision to design it the way I did (which makes it even funnier that I didn't think of this for card images until now). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:07, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Request on Walnut Admins...?

May I post my comment there ever I am not an admin? If not, then I would just tell you what I have to say there on here instead. --F r e d C a t 23:02, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Are you referring to Yu-Gi-Oh!:Requests for adminship/Wilimut/1? Yeah, feel free to comment there' RFAs aren't admin-only. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 04:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ah good, I respond there on Support. I was just be caution since of GrinchMan's appearance. If you recalled, I had an edit war with him while ago but it gone settle as we became friends. --F r e d C a t 17:08, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for your opinion on Yu-Gi-Oh!:Requests for adminship/Wilimut/1. I'm really tired of using {{delete}} or {{rename media}} haha !! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:59, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I've been rather busy IRL over the past few days, so I haven't had a chance to look at it again. I'll try to do so in a bit, though. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:02, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Chrysalis monsters on Template:Six Attributes

About "Template: Six Attributes is it OK to call "Chrysalis" "Neo-Spacian babies" over "... Infants". I called them babies because and are the 1st stage in living things--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 02:10, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Why not simply call them "Chrysalis", per their archetype name? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

That was just to show people how they are related to Neo-Spacian. That's Y I put them under "Neo-Spacian" same with E-hero... Neos Fusion Monsters under E-Hero Fusion Monsters. but if you want them to "simply call them "Chrysalis", That's fine too. Reminder and off topic: "Chrysalis"=babies, Neo-Spacian=childrens, and their Fusion=adults--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 04:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

"Chrysalis", "Neo-Spacians", and "Contact Fusions" together that's good. I didn't think about that. but for NS and CF should we add a little note one what we mean by those so they know it;s not the whole thing? What sucks now for me is that, I have to fix "Six Attributes".--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 04:33, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think any note is really necessary, at least in the template itself; it shouldn't be that hard for a person to figure out from context that the listed NS and CF monsters are those related to the Chrysalis monsters. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:16, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It'll look ugly with the "notes" for them anyway. BTW what do we do with NS-Fusion there just two of them. Neo-Spacian Marine Dolphin and Neo-Spacian Twinkle Moss. —This unsigned comment was made by Wasn't (talk • contribs) 21:53, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

If those are indeed the only two, then we don't do anything with them. They don't fit in to the current Chrysalis/NS/CF Six Attributes group, and since there's only two of them, they don't form their own SA group either. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Archive?

It seemed like it's time to remove the loadass of dead topics you have on this article and shove them somewhere so we, the other users, can have easily time to scroll up the page. It was fifteen times I had used my finger to roll down to this length and already dead, flat and out of gas on the mouse. So I am sorry about my rant, so can you do this please? --F r e d C a t 20:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think "Dinoguy" is online. He hasn't replied to my question yet.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 23:47, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I might do so later; this page is getting about the length for when I normally archive anyways. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

you have 33 archives how do you manage all those; just curious. Anyway "User talk:FredCat100" has a lot more archives and that 450 archives so far; he's an expert.--Wasn't (talk • contribs) 21:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Wasn't... It's just 450 topics, but in reality it's about 10th Archives and I kept them limited to 50 each Archive... But right now, it's 465 topics, 50 per first 9 archives and 9 in tenth as well as 6 in the current Talk Page I am leaving there. Fifty is perfect number for me to keep them from forcing my readers to break the mouse apart or ready to shove the keyboard into the computer screen. But honestly, Dino... you should make it simple and easy. --F r e d C a t 22:23, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm probably gonna use more than one archive for this year, yeah. Just not sure on how I'll split it yet. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 06:10, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Possible history merge needed.

"Six Style - Dual Wield" and "The Six’s School of Dual Wielding". The former is the correct TCG name, so I think the latter should be merged in and then redirected to it, maybe. It appears that a "trans" parameter is already in place, which uses a completely different name. So I don't know which is the proper translation. Yay. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

It was a copy-and-paste page move (the only change between "The Six's School" and "Six Style" was the addition of the en_sets parameter), I've merged them together. I think it's possible the Japanese name could translate to either "The Six’s School of Dual Wielding" or "Dual Wielding Style of The Six", but Google Translate isn't helping. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:11, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial Name/Lore Funny Stuff

I understand how you feeling, but that's just an "Old Habit Dead Hard" crap... This site is for English version only, and they maybe think that English part is little important and the like. So that's why they put it up there first before rest of other. At least they should know the difference from Unofficial and CardTable details. --F r e d C a t 19:50, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter either way, and there is certainly a case to be made for doing it each way, so it's really a matter of personal taste more than anything, I suppose. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:52, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

They should eat their feet once they know the difference. --F r e d C a t 19:52, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Om nom nom? =D 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:54, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Not you, the idiot who not understand the difference of English at first line and Unofficial craps. --F r e d C a t 19:55, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know. ;) BTW, {{Card table set}} is still not deployable yet; I'll make a big fancy announcement when it finally is. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 19:56, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

So that was you who shove that table set in this site at first place? I just got used of it well. --F r e d C a t 19:57, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. Back when I was still working on it actively, I test-deployed it to a few pages (Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Dark Magician, and a handful of others) and other editors picked it up from there and started adding it to random pages, against my repeated protestations. Development of the template itself is on hold until I finally get {{OCG-TCG set table}} deployable and all the kinks in {{Set}} worked out. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:00, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Should see that came... So you think it's NOT complete ready by now? --F r e d C a t 20:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I know for a fact it isn't; there's at least one breaking change that will happen before it's finished, and I don't intend to update/fix 50 million pages when I make said change (this is the biggest reason I don't want people adding it to articles yet). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I see... Sorry that I copied it off your article and paste on couple new articles. What part of it is not covered yet? Bold vs. Italic? --F r e d C a t 20:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, the styles are pretty well set. The breaking change is the addition of a required parameter for the language/region, which will probably follow the set parameter (and thus change the order of parameters). I also intend to have the template use {{Set}}, which may or may not break pages depending on how developed {{Set}} is at the time, and whether people continue to insist on applying {{Card table set}} to video game sets (I plan to have a separate template for those, maybe... I haven't put as much thought into this just yet). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 20:12, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Unofficial names/lores in alphabetical order. Noted. I'll switch them out when I happen to edit card articles with them. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's noted in the documentation ("Order of the languages generally doesn't matter, but for maintenance reasons, alphabetical sorting is preferred."), but I guess most people don't bother reading said documentation or aren't aware it's even there. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me...

But I was wondering if you'd care to help with a template for the http://redapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity . Just one, somewhat like the one here, to use for cards.

Cheers, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 02:43, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean a version of {{CardTable2}} for use on the Redapedia? I could probably get you set up with something, but I probably wouldn't start on it tonight, and I don't intend to get very involved in editing any additional wikis at this time. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:50, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, it would be good anytime. Thanks, Abce2|Talk 'Other things" 23:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Tornadurricanhatehell?

Thanks for fixing the english name I tried to move. It appeared that I have forgot about "Tornado" over "Hurricane". It was little ass-difficult for me to location the other article that related to the original one. --F r e d C a t 17:06, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I've made mistakes like that when moving pages in the past, and move-spamming never really gets old. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:08, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see... But lucky that you have free access to move ALL articles where I cannot do at same time. --F r e d C a t 17:09, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I'm in favor of getting us set up so we can give any registered editor the ability to ignore the move throttle (and probably also move files) without having to make them admins. Delt and I (and maybe a few others) have discussed this once or twice, but nothing came of it. =/ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Official/Unofficial Source?

Do you think that shriek.twoday.net is unofficial source? This user agreed to it, as well as new user in the Revise Dragon's Talk Page. --F r e d C a t 21:49, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know, it's unofficial, but it's also quite reliable in my experience; it was being used for info on this wiki long before I was aware of it, too (the same goes for manjyomethunder.twoday.net and shriektcg.twoday.net). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Then why are this site depend on them, the "unofficial" sites? Those idiots should stop whine about it and just move on. --F r e d C a t 21:54, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

As I said, even though they are unofficial, their information is usually quite accurate. However, your dispute seems to be over the translations they offer; it should be noted that we are not nearly as beholden to their translations as the other info they provide - it's not unusual for us to forgo a translation of theirs in favor of a translation we do ourselves. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:57, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

First translation, Second translation...?

Do you know how to put two translations in same article? I just noticed that "Pot of Duality" have two different Japan Translations... one being "Pot of Greediosity" from Shriek, while "Pot of Greed and Modesty" is from reality translation... Like with "alternate ATK", but I like to know for translation part only. --F r e d C a t 22:38, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

There isn't really any way to do so; there's only one parameter in {{CardTable2}} for the translated Japanese name. For most cards, any possible second translation would simply be a variant of some sort for the first translation (as is the case with "Pot of Duality"'s possible translations). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 22:55, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Now there is indeed a way, it's |altname =. Cheese came to the rescue and shoved the name back in there in Revise Dragon. --F r e d C a t 00:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's not 100% right, since it has the flag of England, meaning "English alternate". Technically, this is the Japanese/translation alternate, but it does still have more or less the same effect, I think. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:03, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but Burnpsy still refuse it and removed the name from one I was posting in. --F r e d C a t 01:05, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, the altname parameters (there are 3 of them, IIRC) are for alternate English names. In practice, though, I'm not sure how or where they are used (so I suppose they'd be a good future candidate for a tracking category), so using one for an alternate trans(liter)ation would be as good a use as any. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 02:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

wikimarkup characters and OCG-TCG card image

The Image policy states that wikimarkup characters are to be omitted. But it seems like the template can't remove them. ":" and ";" are the main ones, the rest shouldn't be needed in card names. e.g. File:No17ReviseDragonGENF-JP-UR.jpg says it needs to be moved to "File:Number17:LeviathDragonGENF-JP-UR.jpg" -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:57, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed it. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 08:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Card rulings and FredCat

Do you is a adm? i have one denounces about an employee who simply offended by my talk of trying to add a rule.

Below is the messages he sent me:

[snip]

I'm new here and tried to help and that's what I got back.

Plese make anything. —This unsigned comment was made by Jonjonex (talk • contribs) 14:15, May 20, 2011

Hello Jonjonex, and welcome to the wiki. =) Unfortunately, we take a pretty firm stance about the addition or changing of card rulings; every ruling needs to be sourced to Konami so that anyone can confirm it.

FredCat can be pretty brusque at times; English isn't his first language, and he tends to have a bit of a short fuse, so try not to let it get to you. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also not only being attitude of what I am doing, I am also trying to protect the ruling without have it fill up with unproved lists of what Jonjon-Ex tried to put in. But indeed, I was little brusque from what Dino see. Repeat, I asked Jonjon to get the link to where he could find the list of ruling, and only link he gave was YouTube site, which confirmed to not be prove official. As of most game and computer hacking, YouTube is part of that kind of trouble that I don't honestly trust. And again, I only asked him to find the official site (which building by Konami itself) and get the exact quote of that ruling, which he would like to post in the ruling article. So I apologized for let a little smoke out of my exhaust. --F r e d C a t 17:21, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Card Errata:Backs to the Wall

Is there any image exist for new lores? If not, then I should add "Future release" with backcard once you responded. --F r e d C a t 11:35, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence that the card has ever been reprinted, so the only ways it could have been errata'd would be in a card ruling, or in a video game release. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:05, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ah well, if it is an errata, then I need an image to post there... And I noticed that the text favor was complete different from the current real-life card image I have seen, so it made me decide to put a delete mark on it. --F r e d C a t 13:55, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Card Errata:Element Valkyrie

I was just wondering why the 1st Errata's cell is twice bigger than the original. Is it a bug with the tablor? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:33, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

That's because of lore difference, since Original Lore had FIRE and WATER separate from main sentence while the Errata version had them joined together. It made the Errata part larger than Original. I have seen this many times before, so this ain't first time you had mentioned about this. --F r e d C a t 20:38, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah I see.. I changed it for Card Errata:Element Doom. What should we choose? Big cell but sticking to the errata or choose the esthetic way? Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 20:57, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I personally prefer having cells of equal width, but inserting line breaks isn't the way to do it, especially when part of the errata'd version is removal of said breaks. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I have decided to following Dino's way, make both cells have their lengths equal. Also I put in the summary that would note to here for further knowledge and discussion. Due to respect, Equal sound better than "esthetic way". --F r e d C a t 00:22, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, making the cells equal in width is the more aesthetic presentation... ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 00:26, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Guess I should throw out my cut tongue sooner. --F r e d C a t 00:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blast Magician

What's wrong with this page lol? It's all messed up but I can't find the mistake I made! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 06:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It was your conversion of the page to use {{Ruby}} (or rather, SMW choking on the markup it generated - if the property value in question exceeds a certain length, SMW automatically abridges it by excising from the middle, and gives no regard to any HTML or XML tags that may be in the way) - this was a known bug with an older version of the template that generated more markup, but I didn't know there were any Japanese names with enough Ruby text to cause the problem with the template's current version. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 07:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I see, thanks for your help! Wilimut ^Talk_Mail Paris, 07:04, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It is possible to switch off the factbox by default or on select pages, which would avoid this problem. All its information can still be found in the "Browse properties" link in the sidebar. The Wikia skin doesn't have the factbox (or browse link) either way. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:16, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

{{Hide Factbox}}? 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:47, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Breaking news! Generation Force Release Date Announced!

Source: http://latinoamerica.devir.es/devir.php?contenido=520&cat=2 - Devir (Latinamerican Official distributor for Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG) has announced on its page Release date of Generation Force (GENF) for American Territory. The release will be in August 16, 2011. - It also announced the release date of Starter Deck 2011, but no info has been posted (link broken)

--Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 22:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... Okay... Why, exactly, are you telling me? =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 03:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my bad english. I will explain. Devir, the Authorized Official distributor for Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Products for Latin America and Spain has revealed the official release date of Generation Force. The official release date for America is August 16, 2011 (For Europe, Devir has not confirmed anything about their release date) In the link provided is the source. It also informed about release of Starter Deck 2011, but no more info for now. --Yoan.Yuki (talk • contribs) 15:20, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox colours

We slightly touched on this before, but for a different reason. Would you be able to add more infobox colours? We currently only have two: grey (type-character) and blue (type-animanga) and use a number of different infoboxes. -- Deltaneos (talk) 14:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any particular reason not to, but I'm not too good at picking good color schemes - do you have anything in mind?

More generally, I've never been particularly fond of the current system we have for infoboxes; the modularity is largely just added complexity considering our needs, and the lack of any sort of metatemplate means an inordinate amount of work, not just when creating new infoboxes, but even just when updating current ones. I'd like to replace our {{Infobox}} with Wikipedia's and start updating our templates to use it, and I could customize it some (both in how it works and how it's styled) if that's wanted. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 16:02, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The primary and secondary colours at least. One dark and one light shade would be needed for each type-. If you did at least one or two to start with, it should be easy for anyone else to copy-paste and change colours.

Are you thinking of changing the appearance of the current infoboxes or just making the setup simpler? {{iBox}} is a series of metatemplates that can be used to make infoboxes like the current ones, but it's still different than the Wikipedia one. You can see examples of it being used on w:c:souleater:Template:Infobox/SoulEater/Episode and w:c:naruto:Template:Infobox/Jutsu. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I mean, any particular color systems for particular types of infoboxes. Beyong basic thematic elements, color schemes tend to be rather arbitrary, and if there's one thing I'm not good at, it's making up my mind in the absence of direction (as you can see from my ongoing template projects =D ). ;)

My proposal would change their appearance, yes, but we could always modify the styles (and, if necessary, {{Infobox}} itself) to get close to the current styles back, if that's what people would prefer. I've looked over the iBox templates a little bit, not enough to really understand how they look, but my impression thus far has been that they are somewhat more complicated than they need to be (but that may just be me). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, the more I think about it, the better one colour for all infoboxes sounds. (Two is fine either.)

Would you like to create a sandbox example? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:34, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Any such example would just be a copy of Wikipedia's infobox metatemplate. I could set up a sandbox example anyways if you're looking to experiment with the styles, though. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:33, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

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