Forum:2 blackwing effects

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can the effects of blackwing vayu the emblem of honor and sirroco the dawn be activated durring the battle phase?X-rain (talkcontribs) 04:29, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ignition effects can only be activated during YOUR main phases.--DoitForTheLulZ! (talkcontribs) 02:32, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

thank you this question is about black back is there any way to by pass its effect that prevet normal summoning once its activated? or can i normal summon first then activate its effect X-rain (talkcontribs) 04:28, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can't activate Black Back during a turn you normal summoned or set.--DoitForTheLulZ! (talkcontribs) 04:39, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just like every other card like that; if you do one, you cannot do the other, regardless of the order. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:40, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

ok so lets say i special summon using vayu and i flip my monster using book of the moon would i still be able to use its effects or would it have need to actually be synchro'd first?X-rain (talkcontribs) 16:15, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

"If the monster Special Summoned by "Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor" is flipped face-down by an effect like "Book of Moon", then you no longer apply the effect "the effect(s) of the Special Summoned monster by this effect is negated" of "Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor". Once the Synchro Monster is flipped face-up, its effect will no longer be negated."
However, keep in mind that Book of Moon does not Properly Synchro Summon the monster, so if the monster is later sent to the Graveyard, it still cannot be revived. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:29, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

would Flamvell Uruquizas an mist wurm be good synchros for a blackwing deck?X-rain (talkcontribs) 17:39, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever float your boat, it's your Extra Deck therefore it's your decide. Just don't maximum it with too many bad Synchro that don't help Blackwing. --FredCat 17:52, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

X-rain (talkcontribs) 03:16, September 6, 2011 (UTC)does armor master wedge counter effect still trigger if the opponet atks armor master?---

Armor Master with Vayu's effect, nope; he's entire negated. But if you meant by his normal effect (beside Vayu), then yes, Wedge Counter can be placing on - but do not following the Anime; that's wrong - you can only remove Wedge Counter during Main Phase, like Cheese said with Vayu's effect requirement. --FredCat 03:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

so can steel swarm roach stop synchros? X-rain (talkcontribs) 23:42, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Steelswarm Roach works like Solemn Judgment/Thunder King Rai-Oh. It can stop Synchro Summons. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:50, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

ok lets say i destroy my opponents LaDD and afterward i discard d.d. crow to remove a monster from play that i know he was gona specail summon with LaDD's effect. im allowed to do that right?---X-rain (talkcontribs) 21:26, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

LADD's reborn effect targets. It mean when your opponent monster active its effect, he must tell you which monster should be reborned, then you can chain D.D. Crow to banish that target and LADD cannot reborn any monster, but all card on his side still be destroyed.-- (talkcontribs) 22:26, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

well jus a few questions. first can i continually use the effect of vayu to weaking LaDD since he negates effects and vayu text doesnt have once during ur main phase or once per turn.

can i chain dust tornado to mirror force to stop from resolving? simaliarly can i chain mst to monster reborn to stop it as well?

can swallows nest be used like my body as a shield againts cards that target? or cards like darkhole?

and lastly about about black horn of heaven can u put its rulings about specail summons in the simplest way possible. and lastly can it stop monsters specail summoned by vayu?

1) Yes.
2) No. You know, this is the most noob question in YGO!.
3) You can use it to prevent your monster be destroyed from Raigeki Break or something, but not Dark Hole, since the summoned monster will be destroyed as well.
4) Horn cannot negate the summon from card effect, like summon from Vayu, Monster Reborn, Gorz, Mystic Tomato, Polymerization, etc.-- (talkcontribs) 02:44, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

ok about answer 4 does the same thing apply to thunder king as well and can black horn and thunder king be use against summoning conditions like d.d. scoutplane or bora the spear?

Card Ruling's pages are your good friends, you know. Card Rulings:Solemn Judgment: "The effects of "Thunder King Rai-Oh", "Black Horn of Heaven", "Solemn Judgment", and similar cards cannot negate a Special Summon which occurs during the resolution of an effect which activates.[6]".-- (talkcontribs) 03:44, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

can grave of ancient organism stop stardust dragon and the colossal fighter? and can d.d.crowbe chained when colossal is destroyed?--X-rain (talkcontribs) 01:41, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

1) If Grave of the Super Ancient Organism is face-up on the field, Stardust cannot tribute itself, it and Colossal Fighter cannot attack as well.
2) If you chain Grave of the Super Ancient Organism to Stardust's effect, Grave of the Super Ancient Organism is useless, since activation have already declared.
3) Grave of the Super Ancient Organism cannot stop Colossal Fighter's + ATK effect since it doesn't active. Grave of the Super Ancient Organism cannot stop reborn's effect of Colossal Fighter since its active in the grave.
4) No. Colossal Fighter active at end of Damage Step. D.D. Crow cannot active during damage step.-- (talkcontribs) 03:42, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

oh u still didnt answer the part of my question about the summon conditions--X-rain (talkcontribs) 04:35, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

What question?-- (talkcontribs) 04:41, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

nvm i was mistaken

hey guys wat are some good earth tuners that will help me bring out naturia barkion and naturia beast in a ancient gear based deck? ?X-rain (talkcontribs) 04:29, november 16, 2011 (UTC)

That's not for Blackwing Forum, but I should give you a list; Few psychic-type and a plant would be good option. --FredCat 12:43, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

question about xyz summoning would i be able to use more monsters than what is required for the summon? and ets say i synchro summon armor master would i be able to use swallows nest to speacial summon another one?X-rain (talkcontribs) 06:01, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just like EVERY other type of summon, effect, cost, etc, you cannot randomly use extra monsters.
Swallow's Nest can only summon from the Main Deck.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:07, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

ok i just need an answer for my xyz summon question. And are there any other tuners that can help out a blackwing deck other thank genex ally birdman? X-rain (talkcontribs) 06:01, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

The answer was given... it was no just like everything else.
The 2nd part is not a ruling question, try the deck help forum.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:00, November 27, 2011 (UTC)


Can someone explain further the effect of Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn, like does its effect last until the end phase or someting... thanks Gomer1234 (talkcontribs) 13:52, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Using the current lore - Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up "Blackwing" monster you control; until the End Phase, it gains ATK equal to the total ATK of all face-up "Blackwing" monsters currently on the field, except itself. --iFredCat 13:56, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Until the End Phase. Konami translated it wrong. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:46, April 26, 2012 (UTC)


Blackwing - Kogarashi the Wanderer's effect is to prevent your opponent to activate card or card effects, when it is used as a Synchro Material Monster for a Synchro Summon. Question: Does it's effect only work when the Synchro Monster is face-up on the field? or just the time when it was just Synchro Summon? thanks. Gomer1234 (talkcontribs) 06:36, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Just like every other similar card. It only stops cards like Bottomless Trap Hole and Torrential Tribute.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:46, April 26, 2012 (UTC)


I mean, how long does its effect last? It doesn't say "until the end phase" or " if this card is face-up on the field"...—This unsigned comment was made by Gomer1234 (talkcontribs) 06:52, April 26, 2012(UTC)

Like I already said; at the time "When you Synchro Summon"; i.e.
That one moment when you successfully Synchro Summon that monster, cards like Bottomless Trap Hole and Torrential Tribute cannot be used on that Synchro Monster.
That is all. Nothing else. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:55, April 26, 2012 (UTC)