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synchro warrior deck

I recently bought the yugioh 5ds starter deck for yusei + I've slowly been collecting some other warrior cards. I would appreciate it if anyone of you pros here can tell me how to improve it, or any tips you've got on maximizing the potential of the deck...giving a limit of $40 extra cash to spend. Thanks

  • There are so many choices, and all these good ideas for decks on here but i want to take this as my first trial. I can take a second trial to show how well i can build decks from the ground up, like the request under this or the Aslla piscu deck, Tantara. I love warrior decks even though i dont use one myself. I prefer more aggressive decks and archetypes like BW and GB but i still enjoy making warrior decks and am working on one for the fun of it. So, would you like a six samurai deck with syynchro capability or would you rather have a straight warrior synchro deck. The reason why i am asking is because you included six samurai in your original decklist. I think that a synchro aspect can be easily integrated with a six samurai deck because the six samurai deck already uses swarming as the main strategy since all the monsters benefit from having another samurai on the field. They also get some good effects from this as well. I think this deck will have more potential but it is your choice and i am fine with whichever you would like. Tell me what you think. By the way, dont forget to sign your post when you leave one. Please sign it as soon as you read this so i can get back to you when i finish your deck. NYKid8295 18:41, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
  • Well I would like to keep the synchros in there, as well as the six samurai. I mean the way I saw the deck when I put the cards together was to use the samurai to keep the opponent off balance, and use the synchros for strong offense. If I were in a losing battle I could use a combo with the cobalt eagle, or back to square one in tandem with Reversal quiz to turn things around. In order to pull that off I had added two cards to lower my own life points with a benefit: backs to the wall, and wall of revealing light. I also have other cards that support the six samurai: Shien's castle of mist, return of the six samurai,legendary ebon steed, and 2 shien's footsoldier. Once again, thanks for your help.--99.177.187.16 23:45, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
  • I get the idea but your strategy is dependent more on luck, the part with the reversal quiz. I will just use the six samurai while using synchros as well. They will be used as the main strategy while synchros will be used to overpower your opponent. I will try to maximize synchro potential while keeping the six samurai at full strength to keep the opponent at bay. I think with Zanji, Irou and Kamon and Yaichi you can overpower your opponent by using their effects for spell/trap removal and to overcome the opposing monsters monsters with their effects. Would this be cool with you? I think this will be a fairly better and consistent strategy too. NYKid8295 16:21, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
  • yeah its true...haha the luck part of that strategy ...lol I do like what you are doing though, it would be more consistent...and if that reversal quiz strategy stuff is removed all together I'm alright with that...After all it would fit better to be more consistent b/c I cant always depend on luck...(out of 5 times I've dueled w/ someone the reversal quiz stuff worked out once...)Thanks for your quick response.--99.177.187.16 18:21, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
  • No prob. I am very committed. Since you like the idea i will get on it straight away. I cant give you an exact date but i will probably finish this by the end of this weekend. I havent tried this before but i think the synchro aspect will fit in well with this deck. I think the six samurai effects are quite powerful, especially zanji's and irou's. That is why i like the six samurai, mainly because of those two and grandmaster of the six samurai as well. NYKid8295 19:32, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
  • cool, that's fine not having an exact date...I know all you guys have lives to live so its understandbable. And like you, zanji and irou are my favorites....as far as the weekend goes, I might be out of town...If those plans turn out I will be out from friday until sunday morning...Alright good luck, thanks.

--99.177.187.16 20:42, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I finished the first version of the decklist and will test it as soon as i can. I will post it when i beleive it has done well and that it will run consistently for you. This is just an update so you know it is pretty well along the lines! I have a ? though. Does the budget include synchros? BTW, is it ok to assume you have most of the six samurai cards (monsters and support), and can you get your hands on a couple of Great Shogun Shien or Grandmaster of the Six samurai at lower prices? I dont buy or sell on ebay so i usually look at official store prices and theirs' are pretty high because they put the price tag based on the value or popularity of the card. The deck wont cost over $40 itself without synchros and probably with 2 Shien but i just want to make sure so i stay in budget:) NYKid8295 21:22, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Actually the budget doesn't include synchros simply because money is a little tight for me right now...lol...but I think I stated previously that since this is a long term project I could slowly get all the synchros you suggest. I have the five samurai I listed in the deck and backs to the wall, Shien's castle of mist, return of the six samurai,legendary ebon steed, and 2 shien's footsoldier. I know several places where I can look for individual cards or buy booster packs, so Its just a matter of getting a general idea of what boosters they come from. So in answer to your question, no I don't possess all of those cards though I have many traps and magic cards and if you include particular six-samurai themed cards I can post the cards I think are possible replacements and perhaps you can hint me on whether or not they would work. The other option of course being that I slowly build the deck. If I do try to build parts of it slowly it is possible that I will work on gathering all I need for the six-samurai first and then worry about the synchro aspect of the deck. Thanks for the considerations :)--99.177.187.16 22:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Your deck is almost done, i will post it after testing it. It looks pretty good and fairly strong too. Unfortunately you can only go so far with warrior decks because attention has shifted to supporting DARK monsters but with the six samurai you get lots of great effects. 21:02, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering if i could have a little extra time on this. I was thinking of another deck and i wanna a try that one out as it my be better at synchro summoning. I think this will better fit your request but i can keep the idea i have been going with if you like the six samurai. Anyway, give me a thought on this. This second deck wont take much time at all so i can still most likely get this to you by the end of the weekend. It is a twilight synchro deck that uses warriors in it but it will be consideraly expensive compared to your actual budget. If you are not in a hurry you should probably make this one instead. In fact, i can post up both if you would like and you can choose, though i would have to say that this last one would be more powerful maybe. I hope it doesnt seem like i am stalling, i am just trying to give you all the good and possible ideas and i want you to be happy with what you will get and try to make it the best possible i can:) I am very passionate about helping and i am a perfectionist who treats every deck he makes like his own. I would never give you something i wouldnt use myself even in tournaments. NYKid8295 22:19, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well i will just give you this new decklist because it is faster and more powerful. I will post it tonight or tomorrow because i have too much homework. I think this deck will fare much better. It will be more expensive but definitely better. It is about 100 dollars or less and i used the prices on the cards from Toywiz so on ebay or amazon the cards will be less. You might have to save up for this more, but i suggest you do because it is better than than the six samurai. Six samurai dont mix well because to work well they need more support and their isnt too much room for support for them, synchros and the normal staples. This deck is dedicated to tuning. NYKid8295 15:48, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

  • You can have all the time you need, I'm not in any rush and I do understand people have lives outside of this...lol so no worries on that end. As far as budget, yeah I can see how it could bump up to about $100, I guess I'll be saving up for it...It would be cool though to see both decks you were thinking about, but if its too time consuming for you just do the best you can with whichever deck. I see that you want to remove the six-samurai from the deck...I suppose in the long run thats ok...and once again thanks for all your time spent...If you have tons to do this week dont worry about posting this until the weekend..afterall this will be a work in progress for some time--99.177.187.16 16:09, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

No prob at all. I already made the Twilight Synchro Deck before i asked you if you wanted it. I actually finished both decklists and will post both for you to see. The six samurai didnt fare as well in battle as i thought they might, at least against blackwing and lightsworns so i thought i might try this idea that i sorta got out of the Catastor Turbo Deck Tantara found out about but i didnt copy it, it is very different so i hope he wont look at this deck as if i copied it or something. I only took two small elements which were the use of Ryko and Junk Synchron. I just probably wont be able to post it tonight because i have a $h!tload of homework to do but i will probably be able to put the decks on here tomorrow. Thanks for bearing with my questions and being so polite. I just wanna give you the best i can do on the deck you requested:) Dont think i dont enjoy this and helping you out. I will give you the strategy and combos i envisioned while building this deck as well as how to play it. I can also give you a side deck for it too, so depending on the deck you go up against you might want to put some anti meta elements in the deck. NYKid8295 18:56, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ok cool, 2 decks hehe thats awesome. A side deck would be great as well. Also its alright np about posting it later on....as for all your hard work...its greatly appreciated.--99.177.187.16 01:06, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all. I love doing this, making decks and coming up with new strategies and being revolutionary all together + helping out people in the process. I love giving back to the community.I plan to make a name for myself on this wikia, an awesome on! I replaced the deck you posteed with mine and put the Six samurai one under it as well. This is the strategy for the twilight deck: I will explain the strategy in steps: 1. Use Ryko and Jain to put monsters in the grave 2. junk synchron is used to bring back tuningware or ryko. 3. If you bring back tuningware (recommended) use machine duplication to summon two more and then use there effects two synchro any monster you want (level 5,6,7,8, or even 9)(if one with a level 9 comes out that you can use) Extra: Summon DAD or Chaos Sorcerer with the monsters in your grave (you should at least be able to summon Chaos Sorcerer because of synchron and tuningware)You can use DAD to clear the field. Warrior Lady is used to remove other DAD, JD, Stardust, or any other troublesome monsters. So is Ryko. Plaguespreader is for extra synchros. I would suggest that you also use machine duplication for only one other tuningware if you dont really need two because you can summon the third one by using the second duplication to get another synchro and draw another two cards when you summon junk synchron. Reinforcement is to get the right warrior (synchron or D.D. Warrior Lady) Ultimate offering is so you can get as many monsters on the field as you need. Allure and Reckless are for draw power. Hand Destruction is to dump unwanted cards and to draw 2 new ones. Other spells/traps are self explanatory. Divine Wrath are use to stop DAD and JD or even Koa'ki Meirus before they hit, becuase your monsters might not be able to get them if it is not your turn. I covered most of the bases with this deck so you wont have to worry as much. The main strategy is within mostly monster cards so that left more space in the spell and trap cards section so i decided to use control. Hope you like this. It is a very fast and competitive deck so be careful and make sure your timing is on because you might lose a good part of the main strategy cards if your opponent stops you, but the control aspect should handle your opponent if he decides to try and stop you. This is the side deck, use it to adapt to your opponents strategy. Your biggest problem will be Macro decks and GB decks. This side deck is used to counter them and partly BW, Vayu Turbo and LS which are decks that use the grave and swarm faster. The monsters are light and dark attributes so they will fit in with the twilight theme. The main monsters are warriors so that the deck would fit your request but i would not really use other cards for this deck.

Side Deck

Hope you like this. I will post the Six Samurai deck later today because i have to go now. Tell me what you think! The extra deck you can change but these are the most accessible synchros and most flexible out in the TCG so far. Cards like DAD and Solemn can be replaced by Dark Bribe and Dark Nepthys or Dark Zerato(not Dark Creator becuase he can only summon DARK monsters and he needs 5 in the grave so he isnt viable, neither is Rainbow Dark Dragon, in this case)NYKid8295 14:28, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

  • Very interesting build, but it does greatly exceed $40. I like this deck, but it does go in a different way than intended. I'm sure that NYKid could make this a cheaper, more classic warrior deck (though this is superior). --Tantara (talk) 21:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
  • I know and i am sorry, i guess i got carried away because i wanted to make a really good deck so you guys would like it and the user who requested it would be happy and get a really strong deck as well. The reason why i added twiliht into the deck was because i find that it is very hard for pure synchro decks to do overly well because of the fact that they rely on so many cards to bring out one or two synchro monsters and i also find that their strategies can be easily disrupted and if that happens the player will most likely lose especially against deck with control and removal aspects in them or ones that are more aggressive and faster like BW and LS and vayu turbo and GB and all that crap so i wanted the deck to be able to fall on a more sound strategy that is also more consistent, especially being able to get out at least chaos sorcerer anytime you need him or even DAD. It was also very strong and i took advantage of tuningware and junk synchrons attributes as they are the main synchro material monsters as well as Jain, Necro, and D.D. warrior lady which i already wanted to use. I will give you the six samurai variant and i might even be able to make it twilight as well but cheaper because of Zanji and Irou so you will still get quite a powerful deck, i just need a little more time to find the right cards with the right prices. It wont take too much time anyway so expect this for saturday evening most likely. I hope you can build the first deck i put up though because it is really powerful, aggressive, and fast. I also hope that you see that i am trying to help you as much as i can by giving you the best i could do and the most powerful deck i could come up with, but i know i am talking too much and taking up way too much space with my comments and all that crap so i will try to keep my posts shorter now:) NYKid8295 16:30, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
  • to tantara: yep indeed this is more expensive than I thought it would be...but since I do consider it a work in progress its alright...
  • to NYkid: seriously I appreciate the time, effort, the skill which you used to build this twilight deck. I am very impressed and think this site is awesome, I've been looking at the card tips and things to see if I can dig up other ways to use the cards you placed on the deck. Don't worry about the long comments, b/c if I could I would write an essay long "thank you" lol....thanks for the strategies you gave me as well...very enlightening since I am relatively new to this TCG. Also, good luck w/ the samurai variant and once again, don't kill yourself on a deadline of some sort, I can wait...lol besides that will make me be more anxious about building both decks..haha...Well I'll check back later today to see if anything is new...thanks NYkid, yugiohwikia...--99.177.187.16 19:06, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

can you help me with my cyber/female deck

ive been tying t make it better since like last year its getting together now ad i have 100$ available to make it better. thanks in advance

ShadowTina 22:33, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Well I already agreed to take this one so... yeah, I'll give it a shot. --Blue (Talk) 20:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's a deck that focuses on fusing the Cyber Girls and powering them up through Solidarity, so they can deal with your opponent's stronger monsters. Shouldn't be too expensive (except for Mirror Force, but that's not too important). Hope you like it. --Blue (Talk) 00:10, November 23, 2009 (UTC)



Alien Domination

Hey, I took the deck that you gave me, Tantara, and made a little revisions that I thought would help. Could you please tell me if it worked out ok? I haven't tried it out yet, as I could not get YVD to work, and I have not bought the cards yet.

I'm not really sure what the strategy is with this deck, but I guess that you could call it a Turbo Deck of sorts. The main strategy is to get Alien Ammonite out quickly, with the help of Alien Grey, Reckless Greed and Mysterious Triangle. Once it is out, there is almost no way to stop it, as it will be bringing in synchro after powerful synchro, with the help of Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar. Most of the other cards in the deck provide speed (Alien Dog, Alien Overlord and "A" Cell Scatter Burst), or protection (Planet Pollutant Virus, Cell Explosion Virus, Offering to the Snake Deity and Burden of the Mighty).

In short, it may be an excellent deck, or it may be an awful one; I just don't know yet. I wish that I could test it out, but I am not going to buy the expensive synchros, only to find out that they are bad, and YVD (Yu-Gi-Oh Virtual Desktop) is bugged, I think. My spending limit is pretty lax: I haven't decided on a set price yet, and I want something good (tournament worthy), without the ridiculous prices of synchros. I'm just hoping that I can find somewhere good to trade for them. I've been rambling a bit, haven't I? Well, good luck!

--Gere102 01:49, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

  • Hey Gere, it's nice to see you again. I can get to this now. For this deck, I could do some really quick revisions or, if you'd like, I can go in depth (which may take much longer). Which'll it be? --Tantara (talk) 03:16, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
  • I know it's been a while, but if you don't bring this request back to life I'll have to archive it. --Tantara (talk) 23:01, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Eeep! Please don't Archive it!--Gere102 23:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

P.S I would like you to go into depth if you feel it would be appropriate. I wouldn't want to interrupt the testing process to ensure that it runs smoothly.

  • Ok, then. I'll be right on it. Expect this to be done by sunday. --Tantara (talk) 02:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Tantara. You're the best--Gere102 22:28, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

  • Sorry, Gere. I took a day off for my birthday, so I'll need another few days. --Tantara (talk) 01:43, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
  • HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUDE 96.49.27.45 02:24, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

No problem, Tantara. Take your time.--76.5.90.131 20:14, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

  • This is my slightly revised version. The deck was generally good to begin with, so I just playtested it a little and made a few small revisions. You'll notice that both Alien Grey is gone. The card was too slow and useless in synchro summoning to use. Though I don't like Alien Mother, I kept her due to her synergy with Ammonite and Ancient Ruins. This should make the deck run more smoothly, synchroing more quckly and efficiently. This isn't my favorite Alien build, but I've tried to keep the essence of your origional build in there. --Tantara (talk) 20:24, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Tantara. I like the new build. Thanks for the advice on Alien Grey, I didn't know it was that bad. How did you get YVD to work? I would really like to have access to it in the future to test decks.

  • Alien Grey isn't... bad... It can be a nice choice in some builds, but as your main purpose is to summon Gol'Gar, it's not the best choice. What do you mean about YVD? Go to xerocreative.com, download Yugioh Virtual Desktop, create your deck, click on the chat option in the lower right hand corner, click on the lower chatroom, register, login, duel. I hope those directions will suffice... Good luck! --Tantara (talk) 18:49, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
  • Finally found the newbie guide thread, thanks for all your help Tantara!
  • No problem, we'll have to have a match, sometime after I get my computer working. --Tantara (talk) 19:55, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Anti Meta Fortune Ladies

Hey i wanted to know if you guys could make a deck for the Fortune Ladies that can stop my opponent from doing things but allows me to do about everything i want. What i mean is using things like DD Trap Hole, Horn of Heaven, Blck Horn of Heaven, you know, the works!!!! Would be very appreciated!!! 72.85.62.254 18:20, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

  • Please Post your spending limit. 69.171.160.216 23:25, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
  • Well i really dont have one because of the fact that i can get these cards one by one, so no i dont have one 72.85.62.254 03:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
  • Hey can I request someone? like BEWK? 72.85.62.254 16:48, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
    • Sure, I can help. -bewk
  • Looks like you beat me to this BEWK. I so wanted to take this deck! Whatever, good luck! NYKid8295 15:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
  • Hey whoever is available to do it can go ahead and work on it, I was just saying an example of someone who was available at the beginning of the page. BTW do you like the new name? Red Eyes Black Kid 21:14, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
  • Hahaha, nice name. You can do it if you really want, NYKid. I will be busy today. -bewk
  • It is ok. I am working on another deck i just thought that this would be a cool deck to work on because fortune ladies are useful and i like the idea of making a counter trap anti-meta with them. I am will be done with the current request i am working on tomorrow so if you dont feel like doing this i would like the chance to go at it but i know you usually choose decks by preference so it depends on how you feel. I have no prob taking it at all. Thanks for asking though. NYKid8295 21:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I will take this next if the Decks For Free guys ask me to do another trial since i already told BEWK i would do it + i wann make a deck like his myself so it will be like building my deck. NYKid8295 18:03, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hey if you can put your heart into it, then I would rather have NYKid do this if BEWK doesnt mind Red Eyes Black Kid 04:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, i cant believe people are already requesting me after i only made one deck, and over BEWK too! WOW!!! I am flattered. If you look at my above deck and posts you can tell i love doing this and always go in depth, so if you need proof look up. I will definitely go for this because i just got the go from tantara but i dont know if i can get this up this weekend because i have to redraft the above deck to something less expensive but you will definitely have this by next weekend at most unless i die or i get cancer or my mom dies or something else really bad happens that i cannot avoid:) NYKid8295 16:35, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

By the way, i will make this more control than a real anti meta because Fortune ladies require getting removed from play and stuff like that so no imperial iron wall or anything but i will shoot for a deck packed with control to make your opponent piss their pants when their JD or DAD goes to hell because of Bottomless or Dark Horn of Heaven...MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!! NYKid8295 16:41, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

As scary as that sounds......I like!!! Take your time. Red Eyes Black Kid 22:10, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I am gonna get this to you tonight but i just need to figure something out because an engine i am trying out in the deck isnt clicking with the fortune ladie engine and it is really pissing me off because i have been at it all day. NYKid8295 22:33, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Hey no problem. As long as you're working hard, you can take your time. Red Eyes Black Kid 17:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

This is the build. I will elaborate further under it.

Sorry i have to post strategy later cause i have to go. Hope you like it. NYKid8295 21:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Yea i was hoping on using more of the Fortune Ladies and more control cards, but if you can explain the strategy i could reconsider Red Eyes Black Kid 04:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is the idea behind the deck: RFG is the main theme that allows you to use the fortune future engine. The fortune lady line up is small but if you look at the last paragraphs of he fortune lady page, which i wrote, under the Cyber Valley ruling, you will understand why there are only 7 fortune ladies. I will explain it for you here anyway. What happens if you draw any other fortune lady monster other than Light? You are stuck with a useless monster because the best fortune lady effects activate when that fortune lady is special summoned by another fortune lady or just special summoned. Fire has the third best effect after Light and Dark because she is monster removal and burn. Water is second because of her drawing capability. Earth is next because she is burn and Wind is last because she has too many conditions and is slow because she has to be normal summoned which isnt what you need when you dont have any monsters already on the field. Dark is revival from the grave but this is an RFG deck so she isnt as useful but you can use her instead of Barbaros. In this case, the logical line up is Fire, Water and Light. In general, the line up should be 9-10 ladies (3 Light and 3 Dark (if not using a RFG deck) and any combination of Ladies Fire and Water for the remaining slots). Light is at three because you need three of her no matter which Ladies you use. Fire is at two because she is too weak so she is a single shot monster that is used for quick removal. Water is to draw but two of her is enough because you wont always be able to use her effect. Next are the other monsters. D.D. Crow is to control your opponent's grave because most meta decks(except glads) target the grave so you can stop DAD or JD or any grave revival cards and decks that have RFG costs. Cyber Valley (crucial at three) is to RFG your ladies to use fortune future and to draw/stall but remember the ruling on Valley and Light (Valley's effect doesnt set off Light's effect). Necroface is to recharge your deck from all the RFG-ed cards from DAD, and Valley and to get a beatstick. DAD is one of the best monsters you can find and he works well with all the DARK monsters. He also feeds the RFG theme. Barbaros is an unusual choice but he works very well because of his effect. You can summon him without tribute but if you have Visions on the field you will reset his ATK when he is resummoned so he is another win condition in the deck. Like i said you can also substitute him with Lady Dark because you control your opponent's grave more than your own but be careful because then you will want to keep your ladies in the grave more but it depends on what you like. PSZ is the tuner that comes back after he is used and Kycoo is the Imperial Iron wall so that your opponent cant use any RFG. Now the spells and traps: Visions is a must and totally disrupts your opponents momentum and can be used with Barbaros and also Fire or Water after their effects are activated by Light so you can draw two cards since they wont be on the field much longer, probably not until your next turn even. Allure is for drawing, Future for the same, Torrential and Bottomless are for removal and the latter for Light's effect, Dark Bribe for spell/trap control and Evacuation is for Monster control and reusing Light. The rest are staples. Hope you understand now!) NYKid8295 21:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

WOW!!!! And you make a lot of sense about the Fortune Ladies. Barbaros should be fun to mess around with instead of FL Earth. What can i use instead of Plaguespreader, cause i dont know anyone i can get that from, including nearby stores. All in all, im very impressed and excited to build this!!! Red Eyes Black Kid 02:10, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

I am glad that you see what i was trying to do. I actually learned this when i looked on TCGPlayer because someone made a guide about them and it gave me some ideas and opened my eyes. You can learn a lot from TCGplayer.com I suggest that you visit the site and look at the ideas on there. This is not to say that i copied the decklist: this is my original creation. I used the ideas he had but he couldnt find a way to use NecroDAD and fortune ladies together so he only used Dark at 3 and 3 fortune futures! It was so random. This is what i mean when i say you should look at what other people think and do but remember that you need to be original and innovative. I used plaguespreader because he was the best DARK tuner because he comes back to the field and after he is reused he is removed from play! That was why i picked him instead of Gale but Gale is useful because of his ATK halving effect. I really think that you should get plaguespreader though because his effect helps manipulate the grave by getting him back on the field and then he is RFG that feeds Necroface. I forgot to say that you can also use Return From Different Dimension but i didnt put it in because the monsters you will have removed will be very weak because you will probably have Valley, any of the Fortune Ladies, Plaguespreader, Kycoo, etc. RFG-ed so it is better if you have a consistent beatstick than all those weak monsters that will disappear at the end of the turn with half your life points. I am glad that you like the deck. You can use Gale instead because. He is DARK so that keeps the count up for DAD. BTW, i just got my first DAD today!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! NYKid8295 19:41, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Quick question: when Necroface is summoned with Future Visions on the field, does Necroface's effect go off first before it is removed from play by Future Visions? Red Eyes Black Kid 22:59, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Earthbound immortal aslla piscu deck

- - What should i put in this deck that i want to make i already have the earthbound immortals and im willing to search for the cards. I would want it to be mostly monsters that cannot be destroyed by battle or good effects like man eater bug we all know how annoying he can be.... - 69.171.160.209 02:56, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - * *smiles at request* Please sign your post with 4 tildes (4) --Tantara (talk) 02:37, October 30, 2009 (UTC) - - * If there is no activity on this thread within the next 24 hours, it will be deleted. --Tantara (talk) 01:19, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - Actually, there has been activity on this thread, it's just that we haven't been posting down here. We have recently been - talking about the Zombie Burn deck, up higher.--Black Rose 03:18, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - * ... I apologize for my poor wording. If there is no activity on this request within the next 24 hours, it will be deleted. --Tantara (talk) 03:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - **You scared me. -bewk - - I think the guy signed it to show some activity, but im guessing they actually need to type something to prove they want assistance. 69.138.75.11 03:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - * Haha, they signed it after I warned them of inactivity. --Tantara (talk) 03:54, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - *yea lol your right i did sign it after that, anyways are you saying that if noone works on this it'll be deleted? also right now i'm running my earthbound immortalAslla piscu with a morphtronic/ancient gear deck. Goodluck on finding what i need....69.171.160.179 22:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - *Should i post my deck, i mean right now it technically doesnt have any sort of strategic structure just good cards.(in my opinion)...mostly from the 5d's starter and crismon crisis and the one with powertool dragon on the pack..and a 20 card pack from an older release, anyways any timeline on when you'll be able to help?69.171.160.179 22:30, October 31, 2009 (UTC) - - * Posting an amount of money that you'll spend will eb sufficient. We really are overloaded with decks at the moment, it may take us a while to get to this. --Tantara (talk) 04:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC) - - *Alright then well i'm willing to spend 50-100 bucks..cards arent a problem really...ebay has them all lol 69.171.160.1 06:18, November 1, 2009 (UTC) - - *I hope you're not too far along the way in making this deck, this is because i want to make sure that all the cards are legal/semi and not banned GL 69.171.160.221 21:10, November 6, 2009 (UTC) - - * Just so you know, NYKid might take this deck as a trial. I recommend that you both treat each other nicely. --Tantara (talk) 04:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC) - - * I apologize. I obviously was rude by referring to you as rude so i deleted my comment. Tantara, i hope this doesnt discourage you in your decision of wether or not i should be in this group. I am truly sorry. NYKid8295 16:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC) - - * Oh no, I knew what you meant. I agreed with it, too. --Tantara (talk) 16:28, November 8, 2009 (UTC) - - *Thank you tantara though i should be careful of my comments. I dont want to disrespect anyone who is asking for help or you guys by making comments that i should not. NYKid8295 20:04, November 8, 2009 (UTC) - - *We are okay, no bad blood okay NYKid. Sorry if I ever sounded rude, i guess that's just the way i type.69.171.160.85 00:01, November 9, 2009 (UTC) - - *No prob:) NYKid8295 15:53, November 9, 2009 (UTC) - - *Uhm just informing you guys that i got a new internet connection which means i got a new IP address just saying this so you dont get confused later soz 97.119.88.171 01:01, November 16, 2009 (UTC) - - *Sorry if i sound rude but, is it all right if i ask who will work on my deck? 97.119.90.5 20:48, November 28, 2009 (UTC) - - *Sorry, i ended up taking another deck as my trial instead. I only took it because i was gonna build the deck myself so in that case i did two things in one, built my own deck and finish another trial. Maybe i might be able to help after this trial. It's understandable that you are asking. I should have said something about taking another request so it was my fault for not clarifying. NYKid8295 22:23, November 28, 2009 (UTC) - - * I'll probably get to this within a few days. --Tantara (talk) 18:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC) - - * I'll get this now, if you'd like. Price range? --Tantara (talk) 01:27, December 4, 2009 (UTC) - *Price range equals under $200 ty also if i may ask when this gets moved to the archives itll go to archive 4 correct?97.119.90.5 17:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC) - - * Yeah, it'll be under archive 4. I'll hopefully have this done by monday, thanks for being so patient! --Tantara (talk) 03:14, December 5, 2009 (UTC) - *well as soon as your done whenever it may be you can just move it there ill know thats its done by it not being here anymore and thankyou for helping97.119.90.5 23:21, December 7, 2009 (UTC) - - * Hey, question - Would you like a non-traditional build such as an aggressive Zombie World variant or a traditional, safer build? Sorry, this won't be up, tonight. --Tantara (talk) 03:11, December 8, 2009 (UTC) - * It's all in your hand pal, zombie's own so you could make it how you'd like just remember to make it sorta idk...how to say this but antimeta also otk i dont know.... its all yours dude thanxs 97.119.90.5 19:41, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


- I apologize for being so late with this, I've been extremely busy. Anyways, the deck is relatively simple, Revival of the Immortals is a big part of it. The deck was built to abuse Assla Piscu as much as possible. I think you requested a side deck. Even if you didn't, I'm posting it tomorrow. Thanks for being so patient! --Tantara (talk) 04:36, December 9, 2009 (UTC) - - *So far i'm liking this..also when you put the side deck can explain the significance of a side deck thanks a lot dude 97.119.90.5 21:14, December 9, 2009 (UTC) - - - Side Deck - * 2x Light-Imprisoning Mirror (lightsworn) - * 1x Mind Crush (general meta, particularly Lightsworn, Blackwing, and Glad) - * 2x Mirror of Oaths (gladiator beasts) - * 1x D.D. Crow (general meta, particularly Lightsworn, Blackwing, and Glad) - * 2x Dust Tornado (anti-anti-meta :)) - * 1x Summoner Monk (general combination moves, you may want to main this) - * 3x Book of Moon (excellent defense AND defense, good against everything) - * 1x Pole Position (excellent against Glads and DARK based decks, chain to DAD or Gyzarus and activate while Aslla Piscu is out) - * 1x Mirror Force (extra defense) - * 1x Torrential Tribute (extra defense) - - I hope that this is sufficient. Would you like me to explain the deck? --Tantara (talk) 01:15, December 10, 2009 (UTC) - - You used my Visions and Barbaros idea. I am glad that you like it You can use Fusilier as a substitute and he is a DARK monster too so he might have more synergy but it depends on the build and in this case, it doesnt matter that much. NYKid8295 19:55, December 10, 2009 (UTC) - - * I used Future Visions as it allows Aslla Piscu's effect instantly go off and Barbaros as fodder for Hardened Armed and because it's a superior beatstick to Fusilier in the event that there is no Visions out. You did give me the idea to use Barbaros :) --Tantara (talk) 02:37, December 11, 2009 (UTC) - * Yes , i would like you to explain a bit it'd be helpful. Also can you list its weaknesses? 97.119.88.241 05:23, December 11, 2009 (UTC) - - Fusilier was a suggestion because i would use Barbaros myself. I was thinking that you should use it in a DARK based deck that goes for special summoning the DARK counterparts or something. Like i said. it depends on the build and in here, it does not matter. I am glad that you liked the idea enough to use it. I am such a visionary, lol;) NYKid8295 14:30, December 11, 2009 (UTC) - - * Right, so. I'll start off with the main point of the deck, Aslla Piscu. Aslla has the best effect of the Earthboud Immortals (destroy all of the opponents face-up monsters and inflict 800 for each), so the main point of the deck is to abuse it. It will most likely be summoned via Revival of the Immortals, Reasoning, Monster Gate, Hardened Armed, Mausoleum, etc. Things like Revival of the Immortals and Future Visions allow you to constantly use Aslla's effect, allowing you to wipe out the opponent's field very often. On top of Aslla, Chacu Callhua is used to abuse Revival of the Immortals, as well. It can inflict a constant 1200 damage to the opponent and, with Aslla's burn, is no laughing matter. As Future Visions is your main field as it allows you to wipe the field clean with Aslla the turn it's summoned (Mausoleum is a backup to get out the EBI's faster), cards such as Terraforming and Barbaros are used (incredible with both fields). Hardened Armed Dragon is there as easily summonable tribute fodder (just discard a dead EBI or a Barbaros) to create a nearly invincible immortal. Armageddon Knight and Grepher are to dump the EBI's which are easilly resummonable via Revival of the Immortals and Call of the Haunted, these also have excellent synergy with Dark Armed Dragon. Kycoo is a purely anti-meta component, Gale and Plaguespreader are to give you access to Goyo Guardian and the like, and Spirit Reaper is there as mainly tribute bait. Swallow's Nest allows you to activate Aslla's effect and to quickly summon another one. Other cardssuch as Allure of Darkness and Terraforming are for added speed and consistency. --Tantara (talk) 00:40, December 12, 2009 (UTC) - * I have most of these cards already but as a substitue, who should i use for DAD, until i can get him? thanks =) 97.119.88.241 07:00, December 12, 2009 (UTC) - - * It depends on how long it will take to get DAD. In the mean while, the replacement can range from another Barbaros to a copy of Summoner Monk, it's completely up to you. DAD is an excellent card, but it's not essential. I haven't tested this, but you might want to try a Phantom of Chaos while trying to get DAD. Phantom allows you to further abuse EBI's effects. --Tantara (talk) 04:01, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Iron Core Deck

My deck is made up of a whole bunch of really random cards that end up working well together and i am thinking of making a Destiny Hero deck and an Iron core deck any tips?

--AwsomePossum 00:55, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

  • Please read the rules. First, put this in the Deck Template Format, then, give us a Deck Direction. We don't help random strings of cards. --Tantara (talk) 01:36, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
  • Are you asking for and Iron core deck or a Destiny Hero deck because you can only request one at a time. If the deck that you have now has nothing to do with the deck you are requesting then dont post it if it doesnt relate. Be careful where you post too because your decklist got posted on the request under it. I just deleted it because it doesnt help us do anything, it was random. NYKid8295 15:59, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that I really should have read the entire thing first. Will you please help me make an Iron Core deck. Also I do not understand how to put it into Deck Template Format because I just joined.

--AwsomePossum 01:01, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • I could give you one of the builds that I'm currently looking at, if you'd like. Be warned, some of the cards are from the next set, Absolute Powerforce. I've been testing it for a while and it's proven to be very good, so much so that I'm actually considering buying the cards to it. --Tantara (talk) 01:05, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
  • That would be great thanks!--AwsomePossum 02:05, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
  • I am willing to spend 75 dollars but would prefer to spend around 50.--AwsomePossum 02:05, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I have no way to tell you the value of Urknight. If it's expensive, the deck will go over $70. --Tantara (talk) 02:11, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • Thanks man/ woman this is perfect! I already have most of these cards and am getting a few tomarrow. I also have a few to add so thanks again.
  • If you want, you can look at my deck. It is on my user page and it uses RPG. It uses cards that have been released up until now but i will add in Urknight later. It isn't overly expensive but it might go max to $100 with Urknight. It is a more aggressive deck and i have the explenation of it under the deck. It uses the anti meta as control in order for you to push for game faster. NYKid8295 17:27, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Dark Armed Relinquished deck

SIDE DECK

Macro Cosmos x2

Gravekeeper's Servant x2

D.D. Crow x2

Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer x2

Compulsory Evacuation Device x2

Royal Decree x2

My Body as a Shield x2

Breaker the Magical Warrior x1

I need help getting this deck moving, I played a glad deck with it and lost completely, I want to use the ritual support with Relinquished and bring out DAD. I want this to contend if not destroy the meta, thanks and there is no spending limit.Thorin7 07:03, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

When someone can get around to this deck I just want you to know that I am also editing this deck to improve it the changes to this deck are on my page if you need to know or I can edit this to be up to date let me know thanks.Thorin7 23:19, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

I could help. This looks fun. I like the idea, especially since ritual monsters are getting a lot of support with the Djinn archetype if you wanna call it that. NYKid8295 13:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I would appreciate the help I saw what you did with the fortune ladies and liked it a lot, currently the updated version of this deck is fairly fast I can usually synchro for Brionac or Catastor first turn and if I have DAD first turn he comes out that turn or turn two, Relinquished isn't a problem either. I can take on Lightsworns and Blackwings but GBs give me a hard time. So do what you see fit with this deck I would like to see the outcome, so this is a request for NYKid8295. Thorin7 21:31, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I like the idea and i also like the fact that you came up with the Dark Simorgh idea because sonic bird is good support. I think that i would go with that idea. But i also want to say something that you might not want to hear but that i think stands firm, Relinquished should probably be replaced by another ritual monster. I was thinking of going with Garandolph, Devil King of Destruction that is coming up in Absolute Powerforce because his effect is too powerful to pass up. He can nuke the field of all monsters and then gain ATK (100 x the number of monsters destroyed) + he's a dark monster. I say this also because relinquished has a major problem that can make him useless. He has no ATK and is dependent on your opponent's field. If you cant get a strong enough monster from your opponent Relinquished can easily be destroyed in 2 attacks. You can offset this by using cards that give your opponent very strong monsters in the form of tokens (i.e. Vicious Claw) but if something goes wrong you will be handing your opponent a 2500 ATK monster for free which i do not recommend. I think that Garandolph will be much better because he has a much better effect and you can very easily set up the exact tributes for him (this is required by his ritual spell) by using Armageddon Knight and a Djinn monster. He is a level 7 which is good because the Djinns that give your ritual monster the best effects are both level 3 so that is perfect. What do you think? I know this contradicts your idea of the deck but this is what i feel. I can keep the Dark Simorgh lockdown too if it doesnt take up too much space in the deck if you want. I also want to say thanks. A lot of people seem to really like my Fortune Lady build. Tantara especially liked it and said he was a fan of it. BEWK, Gadjilitron said that they liked it too. I am also glad that people seem to get really enthusiastic when i decide to take there request. You all like me so much; i am gonna cry >T-T<... NYKid8295 17:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I have used Garandolph and he is always bottomlessed or attacks an old vindictive face down, I really liked his effect to until he was destroyed all the time more then Relinquished even. I don't mind people attacking Relinquished because they lose life points and he never seems to be alone so I am not fully open to attack; but do want you want to do you can run the current deck and make changes or you can revamp it all together if you like. Thorin7 20:08, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Well maybe that was just bad luck because that usually happens to a lot of monsters. Monsters are always susceptible to removal but i guess some dont waste bottomless on relinquished because they dont think he is a threat but Garandolph has such an awesome effect that is way hard to pass up. That is why i want to use him so much. Would you mind if i main deck him and side deck relinquished. It wouldnt affect the deck at all but it would be better if you could summon Garandolph. Another idea would be that you can nuke with Garandolph and use Return from D.D. to bring back all the Djinns to attack with them and Garandolph. It might be better if you use cards like Dark Bribe and Ritual Buster + Cold Wave and Solemn to protect or MST and Heavy to clear the field before you summon him. I can try to make summoning him a lot more safe and effective if you like because he is very powerful. Or i can use Demise even though he is limited. I can use both because with Allure and Graceful Charity(an overlooked card in my opinion that can get you the right cards in your hand and grave easy), the deck thinning with Armageddon Knight, the searching by Manju, Sonic Bird, and Gold Sarcophagus, you will be able to get the right cards to set up your ritual summons and their tributes. How does this all sound to you. You will also be able to use DAD because you will be able to control your grave by removing from play the Djinns. PSZ you can use for Synchros as well. Do you like these ideas? Point out what you like and i will use it:) If you can give me these details you will have this by Friday probably because if you like this all, i am pretty much done(i already made a decklist that is balanced and ready to use with everything on here). I just need to let it sit in case i get any other awesome ideas along the way:) I usually do, and somewhat late too. It's weird but i think about this all throughout the day, i think this is why my grades are dropping:/ NYKid8295 21:59, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

You can't bottomless Reli that was another plus for him, I found Ritual buster to be just about useless I tried running three (more bad luck I suppose) and they can still bottomless or solemn whatever you just Ritual summoned. Heavy, MST and Solemn are obvious, I play advanced format so Charity is no good. I have contemplated Gold Sarcophagus, and I used manju but he stole synergy from the deck and I found Preparation of Rites replaced him just fine. I found that I threw away Demise almost all the time or he was just shutdown in this deck(I used a Demise OTK before the ban list so him being useless makes me sad) right now I can't see what you are doing as a whole to the deck and Return from D.D. seems too situational to be paying half my lp along with solemn and Demise's costs. I know that this is for me but I want to give you the floor and let you create the best deck you can along the lines of what I want and please keep in consideration I want this to compete on the meta level. Thorin7 22:28, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I see. Well looks like some cards were useless Maybe i have had the wrong idea the whole time. I'll just go with Relinquished and keep in mind what you have said. This is strange. I have never done so bad with a deck like this. It seemed pretty straightforward to me. I will think up something new then:/ I didnt realise the Charity was banned. I totally forgot about it because it has long been forgotten. I will fix this Do you still want the Dark Simorgh idea in the deck? NYKid8295 15:15, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

It would be nice to Have dark simorgh but if you find something better go for it. Thorin7 18:00, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

I don't want you to feel discouraged. The important thing is that the deck utilizes ritual support and is fast and strong enough to compete with the meta. Do that and I will be happy with it. Thorin7 04:23, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

I poked around TCGplayer and found the official Relinquished discussion thread and i got some ideas. I think that PlantQuishie was the best considering that it used black garden control while going for limit reverse to abuse Lonefire blossom and Quishie so this can be a toolbox thing too. How does this sound? I will make an aggressive one two and go for the best. NYKid8295 18:27, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Thats sounds good and interesting. Thorin7 19:35, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

I finished it an i will post it tomorrow All the cards search each other out and Sangan can get you every monster you need except DAD, Card Guard, and Tytannial so you will be able to get any card you need. Likewise Tomato is also able to search Guard, Armageddon Knight, Djinn Releaser, and Sangan. Black Garden also helps you control but i only left it at 2 so it wont interfere with your summoning. Use it with caution because you can mess up your whole play and gve your opponent 3 rose tokens or more so be wary but if you are up against Blackwings or Lightsworns go ahead and use it because you will half all of their ATK's and JD and DAD will be at half power so you wont suffer when you get cards destroyed. It will make it hard to OTK so you will be safe for at least a turn. I will post some more stuff about how to use the deck and its strategy and combos tomorrow when i post it because i havt to go Hope this all sounds good! NYKid8295 21:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

It is starting to sound very good. Thorin7 21:48, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Keeping the activity up. Thorin7 18:29, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

This is the Deck:

So this is the idea and strategy behind the deck: 1. Lonefire is key in order to summon another and then use its affect to summon a Tytannial in order to protect Quishie and get a good beatstick. You can also use Lonefire to summon a Dandylion (fodder for tytannial and also gives you two tokens to use as more fodder) or Mystic Tomato (which you can use to summon another Tomato which can summon Sangan which in turn will grab you an Armageddon Knight or Manju so you can use his effect too). In this case you should use only 1 Blossom but if you are late in the game and used these cards or dont need the ones you have left, go ahead and thin your deck out. Make sure to get Tytannial out as fast as you can because she is also a dead draw unless used for Illusion Ritual to summon Quishie. 2. Card Guard is a beatstick but what is important is that he provides protection for Quishie or Tytannial if Tytannial cant defend you. Dark Bribe is also used for this. 3. Armageddon is to dump a Djinn or just thin your deck out It can also get you that 3rd dark in your grave for DAD. 4. Manju, even though he isnt Dark or a Plant monster, he is a staple because he can search any Ritual or Monster so you can get the part of the requirements you dont have for the summoning of Quishie. 5 Quishie: There are only two of him. You are going to say this is absolutely wrong and dumb but let me give you the reasons why i think he should be at 2 and then you can add three if you like. Quishie screams dead draw! He is useless if you draw him when you dont need him. Besides this Sangan and Manju can search him out and with the deck thinning there is and Allure and Reckless, you can get him quicker. Besides this you have plenty of time to defend with the Tomatoes, Black Garden, Tytannial, Book of Moon, Djinn (his DEF is 2000!) and Dark Bribe so it will be hard for your opponent to push enough for him to win. It also depends on your luck so if you see that you are not drawing him, add three but i highly doubt that he wont be there if you need him. 6. Black Garden: this is a very good card to slow your opponent down, get fodder for Tytannial, fodder for Illusion Ritual (Quishie), and defense for you but remember that if you use this you either need to have Tytannial already on the field or ready to summon because she has 2800 ATK which will become 1400 because of garden but she will be strong enough to take down rose tokens if she wasnt already on the field and you will get fodder for her but otherwise it will impede you because you will be summoning monsters to thin your deck out and special more monsters so you will be hurting yourself. 7. Limit Revers is to get back a Lonefire, Dandylion for more fodder for Tytannial or to resummon relinquished if he gets destroyed but bear in mind that he has to have been ritual summoned first. NOTES: 1. You can add synchro to this deck although i would not recommend it because the deck is full and there is no space to add any cards unless you want to change or hurt the strategy for what you might think to be more flexibility because of synchros. If you do i suggest a PSZ and/or Gale but PSZ is better. 2. I didnt keep Heavy Storm in because you need your protection cards so using it would be stupid because you want to be prepared and not helpless if your opponent pulls something off after you used Storm. You can use MST if you want but again, i was very hard pressed for space. I would have added Divine Wrath too. Which brings me to my last order of business: the side deck! Although you didnt ask i still want to give you something based on what you said. You seem to have problems with GB's and i get that because the deck is a whole toolbox. I recommend Mirror of Oaths and Divine Wrath too. What's good is that this is a quishie deck so you will be stealing your opponents GBs and with lonefire you will probably have Tytannial out soon or maybe DAD so you can destroy them in battle but i think if you side these in you should go for 2 Mirrors and 2 Wraths. If you are up against Lightsworns go for three Wraths and some Light Imprisoning Mirrors. Drop the Black Gardens if they arent helping for some of these cards. You dont need the grave so much that your deck will be destroyed or shut down if you cant us it but you should side an Imperial Wall or two, probably in the place of black garden if it isnt useful during your duel. I recommend Iron Wall over Kycoo in this deck because unless you leave out a Card Guard which i dont advise and a Dandylion(which is also very, very good fodder) you wont have any space in the monster line up. So this is the Side deck i was thinking of:

You can also use Dimensional Fissure to stop other decks but then i suggest you lose Djinn, Tomato, Armageddon, and Sangan as well as Limit reverse. You can still do this but this is a different deck direction and i am just laying out an idea if you want to develop it. I think that this would make a very good anti meta deck so you can try it. I think i will. It seems somewhat promising from what i am thinking of doing. This and my Core deck will be my anti meta masterpieces. Hope you like the deck! Tell me how it works out. NYKid8295 20:21, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I will definetly give this a few test runs, seems like it might take a while to play right. Have you used it? Thorin7 04:05, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

No because i cant test it. YVD sucks and gives me problems and i live in Albania right now so i cant playtest it with friends or anything. THis should be at least at tier 2 level and it will give tier 1 decks a run for their money because it is controlling and full of plus 1's that will keep you going. I also forgot to mention that if you go up against decks that swarm very fast, you might want to try out a 3rd Garden but it depends on how you draw. If you find yourself drawing more of your stronger cards that lead to +1's and things like that, you shouldnt use Garden unless your field gets wiped or you really need it, or after you get all your cards out. NYKid8295 18:27, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

So I should use Garden only as a stall or a life saver, never just because I have it. I can't test it yet either I need access to a printer, we proxy a lot. Thorin7 23:32, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well of course. I mean, if you can use it at a time that you are more comfortable like when you have most of the monsters you need out that would be the best. Garden is a tricky card that can generate a lot of field advantage if you use it right. The point is to not give your opponent 3 rose tokens or more because a lot of the cards are +1's that flow into each other. For example if you summon a Lonefire and summon another with that one already on the field and with that you summon Tytannial then you give 3 Rose tokens to your opponent and all those monsters' ATK stats are halved. What i am saying is to play it after you finished doing most of your summoning or big moves (at least the summoning part of them) for a period so you can push instead of getting held back by Garden's side effects. So the whole idea is to make sure that it doesnt harm you while it helps you. NYKid8295 15:44, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Do you like the deck though? I tried to be original and cool with it. It is foused on control and gaining a lot of utility from your cards. NYKid8295 16:00, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

So far I like the entire concept of the deck but I have to wait to run it before I can say I like it in reality . I really like Card Guard thanks to this build this gave me ideas on how to utilize him further. I appreciate the work you put into it, sorry for shutting you down on your first concept. Thorin7 00:28, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • Add another Limit Reverse if one is too little but some people said that it wasdead draw so i reduced it to one to save space in the deck. Add another Garden if you find it helpful but i built the deck so that you dont have to use Garden , it is something extra that you can fall back on too if you need defense. The deck is built to search and thin itself out so that you get the cards you want. These are just some things that you might want to do so i am mentioning them. It depends how you play because if you play defensively or progressively, 3 garden might be better but if you are more aggressive than keep it at 2. NYKid8295 15:43, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Meet My Furry Little Friends...

Hi. Hopefully this will be both a fun and rather different request for someone.

I'd like to request a 'critter' deck - a deck entirely of different beasties (preferably no Glads). Go ahead and consider cards like Neo-Spacian Grand Mole, who is not a beast type but a rock type. Synchro ability would be nice (maybe one good tuner?) but not necessary.

No dollar limit - this will be for my birthday (end of the year, but no rush, you're obviously busy). And maybe I'll actually get to hang onto this deck (hear that, KFM son?)

Thanks. --Kungfu-mama 15:37, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Is this going to be some type of novelty deck or are you going to use it competitively? If you are going to use in tourneys or at your locals, you should probably provide a deck direction: aggro, RFG, stall, mill, etc. I dont know the rules on this type of request but it looks like you want to use it so you should probably be a little more specific. NYKid8295 20:28, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I would certainly like it to be competitive. Typically, we see Black-wings, followed by X-Sabers, and some Glads in our meta (only one lightsworn guy that I know of), so whatever build would get under their skins the most is fine by me. As for how I typically play, I usually use an aggro, but an RFG is an option. It would take me a bit to get used to any other type of build (so please be sure you let me know).

So, in a roundabout way, I'm saying that... I'm open to the possibilites.

Thanks for asking. --Kungfu-mama 21:35, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, BTW...Not a Crystal Beast deck, either. A couple of high level cards that do come to mind (but aren't strictly necessary) are Beast King Barbaros and/or Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest. Hope that helps give you a bit more direction.

--Kungfu-mama 22:58, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

One more thing. After much searching, I found a very old deck list that had initially inspired this idea (and, no, I did not build this). Here it is:


As you can tell, this would need some updating. Feel free to either use this as a guide, or toss it and start over. Hope that helps to clear things up. --Kungfu-mama 23:28, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, here's my Rendition:

This is my trial deck. Hope you take some consideration into it. It can be found in the discussion page. --Flushy 09:11, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

That's good, but, while I really like Monarchs, I'm still hoping for a few more critters. For anyone who decides to take this request, here's another deck that emulates what I'm thinking about. This one showed up in the deck forum.

Skill Baboon Deck

--Kungfu-mama 17:06, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Not that I'm affiliated with the deck help forum, but you might want to consider a Moja deck. An example can be found here. Runer5h 02:01, December 7, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h
  • I was actually going to give her my Moja build sometime soon. I've been playing around with the idea and have found it incredibly consistent and powerful, I'm really surprised that it's not popular. --Tantara (talk) 02:52, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Best deck ever and looks very doable too! I would have never thought of this even though i never looked at King of the Beasts before. It looks very consistent and is so awesome, being able to continuously reuse every monster in the deck and even rescue cat. Totally broken and awesome. I love it. NYKid8295 20:46, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Rune, you're a great person! You're ALL great people! And it's great to know that Beasts are going to get some attention in Absolute Powerforce next year. Tantara, I'd love to see the deck you've come up with too, but if you'd like to move to one of these other many requests, just let me know.

Thanks a bunch, people!!! Oh, and Happy Holidays!! --Kungfu-mama 20:56, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

gemini deck

i posted my partial deck a while back but i now finished it and was wondering if i could get some help tuning it to the best it can be and i was also looking through blue eyes kid's work and like what i saw and i was just wondering if i could possibly get him to do this one but i really have no preference. also i really dont have a price max


Thanks again for your help =)Slipknot563 00:51, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

  • Would you like BEWK to take this? I can ask him to take it personally, if you'd like. No promises. --Tantara (talk) 00:51, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
    • I have finished the deck, but it needs more testing. -bewk 18:25, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

i really have no preference if anyone could do it

  • can anyone tell me who is working on my deck?
    • I am doing it, and it is done:

This is my idea: a Gemini deck using DARKs and Fiends as an engine. It can Synchro Summon as well. It uses Dragon's Mirror to summon Superalloy Beast Raptinus, which has an effect that makes all face-up Gemini get their effects (and he is a nice beatstick). I use many DARK support monsters, as well as DARK Gemini, to get Gemini in the graveyard to activate Dragon's Mirror's effect. Burial from a Different Dimension is used to get the removed Gemini back in the graveyard to re-use, or to be revived with Doom Shaman. It needs some more testing (it is still a rough draft), and some feedback from you (Slipknot), but for now, I think the deck is good. -bewk

  • wow bewk this looks really cool its gonna take me a little while to get the rest of the cards but i like the idea behind this and it may even be able to compete with the blackwings and xsabers i usually play

Charmer deck

I don't know if this is even possible, but I was wondering if You guys could make me an somewhat effective deck that involves both the wind and water charmers (or at least one of them). I don't mind if you use the other charmers either. I have no price limit. please and thank you. 96.49.27.45 01:04, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

  • I can get to this now. Just so you know, using all of the charmers in a competitive build is impossible, so just a few will be used. Do you have a price range? --Tantara (talk) 00:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Nope no price range go crazy. I knew using all of them would be impossible :( 96.49.27.45 03:23, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

  • How close would you like me to keep to the Charmer theme? The closer I stay, the less competitive the deck will be. I'm looking at two builds now, I need your decision, here, to help me choose one and test it more thoroughly. This'll probably be done by wednesday, thanks for your patience! --Tantara (talk) 01:01, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Try to keep it somewhat balanced between the two. If I had to choose I guess slightly more competitive. And take your time, I really appreciate this too btw. ^_^ 96.49.27.45 02:44, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • Alright then, I'm thinking of going with Fire and Water, just to include Frost and Flame Dragon (who's SO much fun to play). The deck will be a casual deck, hope you understand that. Anyways, are you ok with Fire and Water? --Tantara (talk) 02:50, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I like the idea of frost and flame dragon. And don't worry I only play with casual people.96.49.27.45 03:28, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • This is more difficult than I thought it'd be! I'm trying and'll hopefully have it up soon! I planned on having it today, but the deck was very undefined. If it's ok with you, I might have to drop one of the charmers and go with either Fire, Water, or Dark. I'm attempting to make the Frost and Flame Dragon build decent, but it's not easy. A build with JUST the Dark Charmer has the potential of being powerful but much less fun than the Frost and Flame build. --Tantara (talk) 02:52, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Take your time. I'm in no hurry I'm still trying too collect all the charmers atm anyways.96.49.27.45 04:04, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


  • Hey, sorry for taking so long. This is a very fun build to play, I could explain the deck, if you'd like. I could also attempt the Frost and Flame build, if you'd like. --Tantara (talk) 02:48, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

I like it. Kinda surprised to see plant types though. A short explanation on how the deck runs would be cool. And Thanks for the build ^_^

  • I can't beleive that you used the Plant-type part in the Quishie deck i made. HA! I knew it! You think my builds are awesome and inspiring dont you but you arent going to say it because you're embarrassed that your cant think of anything original. Just kidding for that last part but my builds are totally awesome though;) NYKid8295 10:54, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • NYKid, please get over yourself. Plants were the best way to go with this build, having support that makes this deck consistent and stable, it was my innovation. Your build had was not used in this. Anyways, the point of the deck is to steal your opponents monsters via Dharc, Mind Control, Brain Contol, and Mark of the Roses and then use their monsters for synchro summoning. Anyways, on to the more in-depth analysis. As Dharc is the main focus, we need some way to change the attribute of the opponent's monsters, hence DNA Transplant and Scroll of Bewitchment. As Scroll is an equip, I added in Hidden Armory as well. Dharc is a very weak monster, so protection is needed. Waboku, Torrential, and Mirror Force are all in there to ensure that Dharc survives as long as possible. However, this isn't enough. Black Garden was a card that I looked up while trying to find Flip effect support, setting Dharc will bypass Black Garden's attack and defense reducing effects. This means that while you have Dharc set, your opponent won't be able to run over it unless they have a monster with over 3000 attack or flip summon a monster. Black Garden's token generating effect also works well with the deck's theme since the level 2 tokens are excellent in synchro summoning. Since Tytannial is a perfect compliment to Black Garden, protecting itself by tributing your numerous tokens, I added in a copy and 2 Lonefire Blossoms (the perfect way to get Tytannial out). Since I began to add in plants, I realized that there was another card that could fit in excellently: Mark of the Rose (which also works with Hidden Armory). However, three plants are not enough work out the cost of Mark, so I added in a Dandylion and three Mystic Tomatoes. Dandylion is a great, all purpose card. It works well with Black Garden and with synchro summoning. Mystic Tomatoes can quickly fill up the grave for the deck's last resort, Dark Armed Dragon, and can grab tuners such as Gale, Plaguespreader, and Night's End Sorceress. The tuner lineup is pretty obvious, Krebons teamed with Emergency Teleport provides you with a tuner, whenever you want, Gale is arguably the best tuner in the game, giving you access to Blackwing Armor Master and giving you an easy way to get over Stardust Dragon, Plaguespreader for easy synchros, and Night's End for a slightly anti-meta direction (it's special summonable by Monk and Tomato). Summoner Monk and Sangan can search almost anything, they're an excellent cards in any deck. Cyber Valley can provide you with defense and, if you can steal an opponent's monster, can allow you to remove your opponent's monster and draw two! I hope this is a good enough explanation, for you. If you have more questions, please ask. --Tantara (talk) 18:09, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Cactus Fighter OTK

This is based on the Cactus Fighter OTK, but I've also had success just with punishing the Rose Tokens spawned by Black Garden and burning with Just Desserts. I've also tried to make it a bit of a toolbox with something for every situation, but if you feel making it faster or stronger would be better, definitely go for it. Also, if you think a Plant Town would be more competitive, I'm all for it. My cost limit is around $60, taking into consideration I have a set of just about every useful plant and plant support there is. Finally, I have no idea how to go about putting a side-deck together, and I'm particularly interested in having it deal with Gladiator Beasts.

I went with the Scrap-Iron Scarecrows instead of Mirror Force or Wall of Thorns or the like because I worry about destroying the tokens I rely on and having tokens constanty under attack makes Scarecrow's reusability very useful. Violet Witch would be nice instead of Botanical Girl, but I really don't want to lose Solidarity. Do you think it would be worth it if I swapped Solidarity for Burden of the Mighty? Lastly, do you think we can work in Synchros without sacrificing any of the needed qualities of this deck? Many many thanks in advance!! Duckworth 16:48, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Can I take this one? I'm quite a Plant-type expert, and I would love to try making a Cactus Fighter OTK. --Akiza Izayoi 05:45, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is my shot at the deck. I included 3 Seed of Flames, because I found a very neat combo with them to start the OTK. If you have Cactus Fighter in the Graveyard, All-out Attacks on the field, and Needle Ceiling face-down during your opponent's turn, You can activate it to destroy all face-up monsters, including a Seed of Flame. Seed of Flame then activates, bringing back Cactus Fighter and giving your opponent a Token. If you have your All-out Attacks on the field, this will OTK them because they have no other face-up monsters. Plus, Black Garden will add to the requirement of the 4 monsters needed to activate the Ceiling. I also added in 3 Pollinosis, it really is amazing negation while you have Black Garden out. Solidarity and Shrink ensure that Cactus Fighter will always overpower your opponent, and Forbidden Chalice can help you say "no thank you" to a Judgment Dragon or Dark Armed Dragon. I hope this helps you out!--Akiza Izayoi 07:02, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Cyber Dark Synchro

X-XDemonLeonX-x 01:30, November 26, 2009 (UTC) aany help will be very very grateful since im not very good at deck designing -getting my butt kicked by friends makes me sad so i come her on my virtual knees to ask for assitance >T-T< its unfinished so anything to add on anything to remove ill take any suggestions

  • Just letting you know that it is better if you sign your post at the end of it instead of at the start:) NYKid8295 13:42, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
  • yah see XD thats a suggestion that im happy to take X3 X-XDemonLeonX-x 03:54, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
  • I really like these decks so i might go for this because this is interesting but i am not sure on the ruling for Synchro summoning with monsters in the s/t zone because cyberdarks dont have that effect that says to treat the monster equipped as an equip spell so this could have potential as a synchro deck, especially for level 6 synchros although there arent many. More specifically, I need to know if i can use Magna Drago while he is equipped to a Cyberdark as a tuner for a synchro summoning. I was also wondering if i could use level up on Armed Dragon level 3 while he is equipped too. Tantara, d you have an idea on these rulings because i cant find them. If i can find these then i will take your deck! NYKid8295 15:17, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
  • all they say is treat it as an "equip card" it doesnt say anything more then that, if we can use its affects then its perfect, and i was thinking of using black salvo, it works with cyberdarks and then i can tune a lvl 7 like black rose (which i can then suicide bomb to use for cyber dark)X-XDemonLeonX-x 10:28, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
  • Please sign your post so i know who this is! I am going to ask tantara about this so i will give you a definite answer soon. NYKid8295 14:24, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
  • sorry.....my bad i thought i signed that.... X-XDemonLeonX-x 10:28, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
  • if it helps wat im kinda looking for is strategy.......
  • Sorry, i took like 3 decks up until now including you so i am having a hard time figuring out with which one i want to start with and i a also trying to figure some stuff out with my decks because i just got some good Lightsworns (3 Lyla, 3 Lumina, 2 Ryko and 2 Wulf) so i am thinking of putting them in three of my decks, BW which will abuse Blizzard to summon Armed Wing and Silver Wind, X-Sabers (Sabersworns), and GB's which will use Gladiators Return a lot as well as Pot of Avarice where Glads are used more scarce but they get a lot of support from Lyla and Wulf as well as Ryko. I might drop a Lumina or two for Card Trooper so i am trying to figure out all of that and i might make a pure Lightsworn build since Honest and Charge of the Light Brigade are being reprinted in the special edition packs so they are much more accessible and are only 8 bucks a piece online. I am also helping BEWK with another idea but it wont be too long because i already started it and i am on break for 2 and a half weeks. NYKid8295 17:46, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
  • is cool if it takes some time, the longer it takes the better the deck will become right? mre work time on it and more experience in making some right ^-^ and nice u have alot of awsome decks!!!! X-XDemonLeonX-x 06:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

It is done. This is the deck. I will elaborate under.

The idea behind this deck is to almost OTK or OTK through the use of these 4 cards: Black Salvo, Future Fusion, Overload Fusion, and Limiter Removal. 1. You use Future Fusion in order to dump the three different Cyberdarks to the grave in order to summon a Cyberdark Dragon. 2. Summon Black Salvo and special a Cyberdark to sync for Black Rose Dragon. 3. Use Black Rose's special ability and tribute it. If this is late in the game, ou can have a Geartown or two on the field so you can get 1 or 2 Gadjiltron Dragons. This would be the ideal situation. 4. Use Overload Fusion or Cyberdark Impact! to summon a Cyberdark Dragon and equip Black Rose Dragon to it. This will give your Cyberdark Dragon an extra 2500 atk (2400 for Black Rose and 100 for the Black Salvo in your grave). 5. Activate Limiter Removal to put your Cyberdark Dragon to 7000 ATK. If you have summoned a Gadjiltron Dragon or two, they will be at 6000 ATK each as well. NOTE: This is an almost OTK because a legit OTK includes 4 or less cards but you can still take 7000 LP from your opponent so this is awesome but you should have a backup plan if you use this because your Dragon will be destroyed at the end of the turn. There are also two other almost OTK's/OTK's that you can pull off which makes this deck very flexible. The two others include Black Salvo a Geartowns and a Limiter Removal and the other includes Future Fusion and Overload Fusion as well as a Cyber Dragon in your deck. The first goes like this: 1. activate geartown 2. Summon Black Salvo to summon a fallen Cyberdark and sync for Black Rose. 3. Activate Black Rose's special effect to nuke the field and summon two Gadjiltron Dragons 4. Activate Limiter Removal and attack with Dragon for 6000 LP. You can then use a Cyberdark Impact! To summon a Cyberdark Dragon and equip it with Black Rose but you should do this before activating limiter removal. The second goes like this: 1. Activate Future Fusion to dump a Cyber Dragon in the grave along with the rest of your machines to summons a Chimeratech Overdragon 2. Activate Overload Fusion in order to summon a Chimeratech before Future Fusion summons one (because it wont survive because it nukes your whole field when summoned and Future Fusion requires itself to be on the field for you to summon your monster and for it to survive). The Overdragon will have 9600 ATK if you send all of your machines to the grave but i recommend that you keep the Black Salvos in the deck so you have a backup plan and you can go back to the first OTK from these two and still be able to win the game. 3. Attack up to 9 times (it's better if you keep the black salvos in your deck; i highly recommend it) or 12 times (if you used the black salvos; DON'T, trust me) and win the game. NOTE: FOR this second OTK, i recommend that you clear your opponents field of spells/traps so you wont be held back with a Heavy Storm because you wont have your Dark Bribes on the field after you Overdragon hits the field because it automatically nukes your field (you can use this with the Geartowns to summon 2 Gadjiltron Dragons but i dont recommend it because that way you will still have the geartowns and black salvos in your deck as a backup OTK). This is the strategy and the 3 OTK's you can pull of so you can see that you have a lot of options. Now to explain the other monsters and traps in the deck that arent obvious: 1. Lyla and Ryko are s/t and monster removal. They also speed you up by milling your deck a little but i didnt add too many so that will decrease the chance of you losing your vital cards. Most of your vital cards are limited so that helps but the milling will still allow you to get them earlier so it is a win-win. 2. The Gadjiltron Dragons are to be summoned by Geartown and they are the only dead draws in the deck. You can also summon them with only one tribute with geartown if they happen to be in your hand and you can because if they get destroyed or milled, geartown can summon them from the grave when it is destroyed or even if they end up in your hand so dont worry where they are unless they have been RFG-ed. 3. Hunter Dragon is good because it is strong and can be equipped to a Cyberdark after it has been destroyed. Use it to summon strong Cyberdarks and hold off until you can pull of an OTK. 4. Sangan is a searcher for Black Salvo so that will speed up your OTK's including him. 5. Allure is for draw power because you have 13 DARK monsters in your deck so that is enough. 5. Threatening Roars are to stall and set your OTK's up but those dont really take any setting up unless dont have all the cards you need. I recommend that you play them all in one turn though, because then your opponent will have a lot less time to respond. 6. Dark Bribe is for protection against bottomless and such. 7. Reckless Greed is for more draw power but i recommend you use both in one turn so you dont have to lose 4 draw phases in a game. I also recommend you use this when you already have almost all of the cards needed for an OTK in your hand so you dont lose any momentum or let your opponent get ahead of you. Other than that i dont really have any more tips on how to use the deck but just make sure that you are confident when initiating OTK's because you will lose all of your resources if you are stopped, especially with Future FusionThis is pretty much it for the deck. Tell me what you think:) NYKid8295 20:42, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

  • I like it ^-^ but i have a question, in your strategies it says something about having one or two geartowns, i was wondering how u can have more then one field spell on the field at a time? also it says to attack with overdragon 9-12 times, i thought u could only attack that many monsters on your opponents field? X-XDemonLeonX-x 04:56, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah you are right. I thought that geartown was a continuous spell because i got it mixed up with Ancient Gear Castle. Chimeratech can only attack up to the number of monsters your opponent has but it's ATK is still quite high so if your opponent has 2 monsters on the field they are done. It depends on your opponent's field. I fthey have only one monster or none (which they probably wont have none), Go ahead and fuse all the machines you have left in the deck so you can go all-out and you win. Sorry i forgot to mention this, i was looking at would you could ideally do:) So how do you like it besides all that? NYKid8295 10:12, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

  • well even with those small holes its still an awesome deck!!!!!! as soon as i get this deck together im so gunna come again, u guys r really good deck builders. thanks alot.oh and btw did u eever find out whether or not u can use cyber equip's effects or as a sync? d(^-^.) X-XDemonLeonX-x 07:43, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Yeah, cyberdark decks have that sorta problem. They are aggressive but only one-shot so you cant make comebacks. It's a like a now-or-never deck. This is the reason why this deck isnt doing well. It cant make comebacks and in the metagame, people are always prepared for anything so you have to wipe your opponent's field first. Take a look at the strategy because i fixed it and i left the only viable options. Sorry about that but i messed up with the Geartown thing thinking that it was a continuous spell. The deck is still powerful though. Unfortunately you cannot use a tuner equipped to a Cyberdark because it is treated as a spell not a monster. I wish it could though because you could get level 6 Tuners very quickly with Magna Drago as he is the highest level dragon tuner that is "level 3 or lower". NYKid8295 14:22, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • oh thanks alot man, so u cant use a normal monster (like hunter dragon or something) for a synchro material? sorry if im being a bother but i just wanna get this clearly before i piss people off in a tourney >.<
  • No, you cant use tuners as tuners or normal/effect/synchro monsters as synchro aterial when they are attached to a Cyberdark. They are treated as equip spell cards and nothing more. Tell me how the deck works out, kk? I think that it will come out well but you always have to be careful because these decks are usually inconsistent because they are totally aggressive a and dont have backup plans besides the Salvo/Rose Dragon/Geartown combo i was talking about as being a backup plan to have if the first OTK doesnt go through so remember that! NYKid8295 14:07, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
  • aw thats too bad.....ah well thanks for the help again

oh btw (go ahead and just say no to this) but can i join the deck building team? ^-^? (crazy askin this but yah...)

First off you need to sign your post and second, we already have one user going for the sixth position and he will probably it. You will have to post your decks up on your user page. If you are confident in your ability and think that you are up on our level than you can give it a shot but make sure you arent wasting our time because the process of reviewing a candidate takes time and consideration and we have too much stuff do here and in our respective lives to take more time out of them. I am finding it increasingly annoying and distracting having to keep up with this thread and making the decks i have been requested to do as well as keeping up with school, family, and my own decks:/ NYKid8295 23:40, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

  • oh sorry, dont worry never mind then, im probably not worth the time ^-^" sorry for the troble i caused, ill be going i guess. oh and tell the candidate i said good luck with the testing ^o^ X-XDemonLeonX-x 02:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ritual Deck

Hey I was wondering if you guys can improve my Ritual Deck. I want to make it competitive also I want to make this deck faster on summoning my ritual monsters. I'm not to worried on the price range since I already have most of the cards but keep it under $100.

Maidenrulz 22:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)Maidenrulz

  • I can start this, if you'd like. I'd like to run a deck based on Relinquished. Ok? --Tantara (talk) 02:51, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • Ok but I don't know if it's too much to ask but could you make two decks, one deck based on Relinquished and another on just improving the deck I posted here because I enjoy the ritual theme. Also could you please include a side deck because I'm not very good at making one. Note that at my locals glads aren't played that much. It's mainly lightsworns, blackwings, and dark decks with D-hero draw engine. I upgraded my deck with cards I managed to get a hold of. Thanks in advance for all the help.Maidenrulz 07:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC)Maidenrulz

What are you talking about I made this deck on my own. I didn't look at any other decks to make this build. If you think I netdeck you are wrong. I don't even know what deck you are talking about. You must have type this on the wrong deck because there is no plant monster in this deck at all.Maidenrulz 22:17, December 20, 2009 (UTC)Maidenrulz

  • Forget it. A. I wasnt talking to you, but to tantara, B. I was talking about the deck above yours where i made a comment about a part of the deck that tantara made that looked exactly like part of a Quishie deck that i made C. Because i used the plants in a quishie deck, and tantara brought up quishie in his idea for your deck so since i did those before i made a little joke but Tantara obviously took it wrong and told me to "get over" myself and so did you. I dont know why i try. NYKid8295 23:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • I was going to try either Sky Scourge or an Hidden Village lock here... Relinquished just happens to be the best, usable Ritual... :\ --Tantara (talk) 23:19, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
  • you can also try out the new Perfect Herald in a Fairy Ritual deck because it is an awesome card and is a defensive Tytannial but with a better negation effect because all you have to do is discard a Fairy type monser instead of tributing a Fairy like Tytannial requires except with Plant-types. Manu and Senju are also both Fairies so that will give the deck some speed as well. You just have to wait until the specs come out for Herald's Promise because no body knows how it works yet. NYKid8295 14:10, December 27, 2009 (UTC)



Side Deck


This deck should be fairly obvious, summon Relinquished as quickly as possible and then summon Northwemko. It utilises various defensive such as 3 Necro Gardnas as well as 2 Burial from a Different Dimension (use Necro Gardna up to nine times!). Burial also works well with the Djinn monsters. I'm sorry for taking so long, I've been taking a bit of a break over the holidays. --Tantara (talk) 04:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


Geminis... Again?!

I've seen an outbreak of many Gemini Decks on this forum, but I haven't found one that I've truly liked.

I really like Phoenix Gearfried's effect, and the combination of Crusader of Endymion and Dark Valkyria. I'm just not sure how to construct an efficient deck around that. With that said, here's what I've put together.

Not too sure about having Superalloy Beast in there, but Future Fusion helps me throw monsters like Phoenix Gearfried and Crusader of Endymion into the grave. I don't have a budget, and I already bought the Warrior's Strike structure deck.

Thanks! --Casanova8792 01:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I call this! I will probably get to this after a bit, maybe a week at max. I have a sweet idea for this that i think you will like. I will have to tell you later because i have to go:) NYKid8295 02:01, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing it. --Casanova8792 03:50, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

  • It is going to be a Gemini Spellcaster Village lockdown that will use Dragon's mirror to summon Super Alloy Beast Raptinus (that part i got from BEWK) and get your geminis their effects and to summon Black Brutdrago with Tuned Magician so you can attack for big damage:) What do you think??? NYKid8295
  • hmm... that sounds doable! But then with Spellcaster Village Lockdown, what's the point for Phoenix Gearfried? His effect relies on the opponents to use spells. That's my only concern, but everything else: awesome! Think you can make a decklist for me to see? --Casanova8792 18:49, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well the thing is that i was thinking of maybe not using Gearfried because he has an ok effect but i dont really see a big point in using him. I was thinking of doing Gemini/Spellcaster with a Spellcaster boss monster instead because Gearfried is situational. It is a decent effect but the thing is that that spell will most likely be something that will help your opponent a lot more than it will help you and i dont think that it is worth it to let your opponent get ahead of you. Geminis are more powerful on the field than in the grave. I can try and include him but there would definitely be better choices for the card slots. Let me do it first and then you can see what i mean NYKid8295 20:18, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

  • Ooh, alright then. Thanks NYKid. --Casanova8792 23:02, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • I can't wait to see your take on the deck, NYKid. -bewk 03:18, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
  • It's not gonaa be overkill on Spellcasters and Spell Counters, it uses Spellcasters' effects to use Spellcaster Village and the Crusader of Endymion to give Defender and Dark Valkyria Spell counters so they can use their effects Dragons mirror for Raptinus and then Tuned Magician for Black Brutdrago and their you have it. I will post it up later. NYKid8295 13:57, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
  • I'm so anxious for the deck haha. I'm actually going to a card shop tomorrow, so I'll see if I can pick up the cards that you've mentioned. --Casanova8792 04:03, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
  • not to burst your bubble nykid but you can only put one spell counter on dark valkyria and no more throughout the entire time that card is on the field and gemini summoned the only way to do this more than once is to have multiple of him or send him to the deck or grave and bring him back, ive run many different gemini decks and have had this issueSlipknot563 05:53, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
  • Aw damn, that sucks... I used to put multiple spell counters on Dark Valkyria, guess I've been playing the card wrong.
  • yea cause if you read the card it says that you can only put one on it i got caught or as i would say was notified of this at a tournament a month agoSlipknot563 19:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
  • Just wondering if you're still working on this deck, NYKid. Casanova8792 00:35, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
  • Sorry but my internet connection is down and i am at my aunt's house so i will try to post it up tonight because it is finished but its new years eve so i cant promise anything. If not tonight i will get it up tomorrow or the day dafter that. Thanks for understanding:) Happy New Year's to everyone!!!

So this is the deck. It is pretty straightforward and i dont think that you need any explanations. I made it versatile with three different summoners so you can get any monsters you need. I tried to speed up the deck with some milling by using Featherizer and Card Trooper. I add in Terraforming to get your Village out quicker and almost all of the monsters are spellcasters besidesm Blazewing and Valkyria as well as Card trooper.Tuned Magician is to get your Brutdrago out fast. I recommend going for Raptinus first so you can max out your geminis so you can use their effects immediately and then sync for a Brutdrago. Keep in mind that if you summon raptinus you must be ready to act quickly and summon brutdrago becauseRaptinus has an extremely low attack for his level (2200) and any monarch can take him out so be cautious. Threatening Roar and Mirror Force are to ensure your Gemini's safety so you can gemini summon them. Also use it in conjunction with Gemini Summoer in order to get that extra summon. Try to get out Defender as soon as possible because he is very powerful defense along with Crusader and Spell Power grasp. He would be an ideal opening play as he can protect himself as well but be warned that against BW, you will be outmatched in speed so a Thunder King Rai Oh and some bottomless wouldnt hurt but that is more for your side deck although you might want to main them because they are good anti meta for you anyway. Examplar is a good summoner but what she is awesome for is hoarding Spell Counters for Defender because he can only have one on him and her effect is great because you get 2 spell counters and she can summon any spellcaster if you remove a number of spell counters from her equal to the monsters level 4 or lower so you can get any monster. You can also use defender to defend your summoner monk or Gemini Summoner as well to use their effects again. Featherizer and Card Trooper will help thin the deck out. Supervise is to grab geminis from the grave and get your geminis started off quicker. I hope this is to your liking. I would also like to suggest a lumina or two because she helps thin the deck out but i used breaker because he uses spell counters and he can power up endymion that way. I hope you like, sorry i couldnt test it out because i dont really have a way to but it looks consistent and i avoided dead draws and i tried to be as practical as i could but Geminis need a lot of support to get them going so i did the best i could wth what i had. 10 Geminis seem to be enough as you have summoner monk and featherizer as well as Card Trooper to get them in the grave and on the field. Enjoy and Happy New Year's:) NYKid8295 23:12, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

  • I really like it, thanks NYKid! How much does Mirror Force go for these days? And I thought Breaker was limited, I must be outdated.Other than that, I think I can get most of the spellcasters from Spellcaster's Command, and everything else is common. Again, thanks so much! You even took time away from New Year's to post this =] I'll test it out on YVD (Yugioh Virtual Desktop) and see if it's consistent (because I see a lot of single monsters D: ) P.S. Can you make a side deck as well? Take your time on it, not a priority haha. Happy New Year's! Casanova8792 06:52, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • EDIT - Can I use Crusader to give Exemplar more spell counters?
  • I switched Card Trooper with Ryko, it seems to work better. I still mill off 3 cards, but I get to destroy any 1 card as well.
  • yes you can use crusader to give exemplar spell counters because it can have spell counters and recently i looked up the thing on dark valkyria (again) and you can place multiple spell counters on it but you can only remove one from it to destroy a monster because that is the only part of the effect that says you can do this one time only, basically what im saying is you still get 300 extra attack for every counter on it =)Slipknot563 21:21, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • Awesome! Are you sure these rulings are correct? I'm thrilled to have Dark Valkyria back in the front lines, I just don't want to use her wrong again. Casanova8792 01:43, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


Dragon Kitty Synchro

edits made by Duelist33(My Talk) 17:46, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

So this is essential supposed to be a Dragon Synchro deck that uses the synchro cat engine. This is just what the deck List looks like now but it suppose to have at least 2 REDMD and a Gold Sarc. This Deck has actually faired well in testing but I want help refining it. So just to let you know what this deck can do: This deck consists of a variety of leveled monsters and thus leaves a great deal of access to alot of different synchros. Arcanite is easy to pull off but in the same way i can easily get Exploder Dragonwing out by activating dna surgery with a airbellum and spy out on the field and declare dragon as the type. I could do just the same with a armed dragon lv5 and magna drago activate dna surgery and declare spellcaster to sync for arcanite. So this Deck is built to adapt to the situation. So with all that said please give me back some feed back on what to add or take out and feel free to change the extra deck as well if necessary. As far as budget goes doesn't really concern me.Whatguy08 08:02, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

  • My thoughts on the deck, and I am far and away from an expert on decks, but here are my opinions. First off, you have no Blackwing Tuners, of which you need for the Synchro Summon of Blackwing Armor Master and pretty much every Blackwing Synchro monster they have out. So, that has to be pulled from your Extra Deck. Secondly, it could be replaced by any number of Synchro Monsters. Perhaps, a Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, or a Ally of Justice Catastor when battling any decks that aren't Dark. You could also put in a Polymerization and add a Five-Headed Dragon to the extra deck. Now, if you are going to use the Surgery engine, I would think you need to use two, as it only activates for 1 type, running two would be better with the specific Synchro Material that you need for your Synchro Monsters, it could also be a momentum switcher, if your opponent is relying on your 1st Surgery, you can switch it to another. Those are just thoughts and opinions. Take them as you will

Duelist33(My Talk) 18:06, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

  • This is not a thread where you comment on others' decks. This is a thread where a deck is submitted to an experienced duelist for one on one help. Please leave this person alone unless you are part of Decks for Free! and are actually taking the deck. --Tantara (talk) 18:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
  • Heh seems I did forget to Add in the 2 FGD. Anyway yeah if you decide to help rebuild it keep in mind that it should still be a dragon kitty synchro :) Whatguy08 01:16, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
  • I can get to this now, would you still like help? --Tantara (talk) 15:08, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • Yea, I'm interested on what you would come up with. Whatguy08 16:24, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • This is going to take me a while, if you want me to keep this strategy. This deck is mashing together two completely different strategies, it's not working that well. I strongly suggest that you allow me to seperate the two decks, I also recommend a Hopeless Dragon deck (will be much less expensive due to a soon reprint of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon). The Synchro Cat engine does not normally fit well into any other deck besides spellcasters (and it doesn't fit well there, either). I can still attempt this, it's just goint to take me a while. --Tantara (talk) 00:33, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
  • If there is no activity on this request within the next few days, this'll be deleted. (I'm giving you an extra day as you've been pretty good about getting back to us) --Tantara (talk) 00:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well I already have a Hopeless Dragon Deck, this deck was meant to be something completely different in making a Dragon synchro. If you want to create a Different type of Dragon Synchro that's fine by me. I'll probably end up combining some of the ideas either way. Thanks Whatguy08 10:08, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
  • A kittyless Dragon Synchro would make my life so much easier, Ill have this up tomorrow (I think). --Tantara (talk) 01:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)



Would you like a side deck? --Tantara (talk) 02:00, January 12, 2010 (UTC)


Blacksworns

Hello again, I’m sorry about the X-sabers thread. I had no internet access for a month due to being out of Singapore. This time, I request that you guys help out my Blacksworns deck. Once again, I have no spending limit. Also, if you could include a Side deck, that would be great. Thanks =D


Synchros 2x Stardust Dragon
1x Colossal Fighter
2x Blackwing Armor Master
2x Blackwing Armed Wing
1x Goyo Guardian
1x Black Rose Dragon
1x X-saber Urbellum
1x Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Boundary
1x Arcanite Magician
1x Magical Android

GroggyBoy 05:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

  • Being a fellow Singaporean, I'll help you on this. But, I'll have a small request. Make it a Vayu turbo based deck, ok? It works easier making it Vayu-based. --Flushy 02:37, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
  • Cool~ You're a Singaporean too?

Alright, vayu turbo based it is, though I'll have to find some way to get my hands on Vayu. Thanks in advance Flushy!GroggyBoy 15:54, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

I will include a revised side deck next time. Hope you will like this, though I feel that its just a normal Vayu-Lightsworn turbo. --Flushy 10:24, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Flushy, I think the meta around my parts consists mainly of blackwings and lightsworns. An occasional Morphtronics and Dimensional Glads. A few Gadget Oppressions and Rock Stuns.GroggyBoy 11:38, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

  • Flushy, remember to sign the decks that you make. Speaking of Rock STUN, I helped with the creation of the origional build on TCGplayer.com. LIGHNINGBLITZ, a tcgplayer user, created the origional and I gave him a few pointers.. Just thought I'd brag, a little :) --Tantara (talk) 14:54, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

LOL. Wow, cool! I’m a fan of the anti-meta decks LIGHTNINGBLITZ builds on TCGplayer.com. They’re just so awesome! I used the anti-meta decks LIGHTNINGBLITZ created as a reference for building a dimensional STUN for my friend xD. GroggyBoy 15:05, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

  • I really like BLITZ' builds as well, they have a good balance of control and power. It's difficult to do that. Many TCGplayer duelists are quite good, LIGHTNINGBLITZ is one of the best. --Tantara (talk) 15:15, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
    • They really are experienced players aren’t they~ Wow I wish to be that pro too =) GroggyBoy 15:24, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


Synchro Deck

hi, im currently using/building a synchro deck, i mainly play with a group of friends so time is not an issure, these are the current cards i use in the deck im trying to get the deck so i can get cards out quickly but still have some form of defense, my spending limit is around £30, i can stretch furthur if needed.

I am already planning to get Stardust Dragon, and Majestic Star Dragon (already have Majestic Dragon), and will probably try to put Quickdraw Synchron in there somehwere instead of something else, again i dont mind how long it takes, and i have alot of cards already. thanks. Lenku 15:34, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I now have Majestic Star Dragon so i am now going to try and get Stardust Dragon for the deck. Lenku 22:31, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
I can make a deck for you, but you'll need a definite focus point for this deck. Would you like to focus on the Saviour archetype/otherwise? Your deck now is just a random string of cards. --Flushy 02:29, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
im not trying to go for a saviour archetype, but the general direction would be to get synchros out fast and make the opponent unable to counter most of my moves (sorry if this doesnt help, got a splitting headache at the moment) so kind of a rush deck. Lenku 22:46, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
  • I find zombies syncro decks to be the best and they are really why Zombies are up there in the meta, because they can efficiently and consistently swarm the field and maintain field presence and usually advantage. They are usually mixed with LS or D-Heroes because they both give the deck speed, LS mill so you can dump Zombies and summon them from the grave and D-Heroes have D-Draw and malicious that allow for speed and quick level 8 syncros with malicious and Caius as well. I personally like and run ZombieCharge (LS Zombies). They usually use Krebons and Deep Sea Diva as tuners as well as Gale for his effect and Dark attribute and, of course, Plaguespreader. Diva is much better when you have two or more monsters on the field or if you already have a lumina or Zombie Master that you can use their effect and then summon diva for double syncros. These will be quite expensive decks as an ideal zombie engine is about 80 dollars with Mezuki and PSZ. Mezuki is 20 dollars or so so 2 of them would be 40. You could cut them out for money purposes and replace them with pyramid turtles like i did. Along with the LS, if you choose ZombieCharge, the deck could go to $200. If you go with DAD, which i highly recommend, then it might be 220 or 230. This estimate is pretty much based on the assumption that you are pretty much building from scratch and dont have at least 80-85% of the cards. I notice that your budget is in pounds and the prices i am mentioning are relevant to the US so i dont know how much it would be in the UK because i doubt that prices will just be straight conversion to british pounds from US prices. You can also try something much cheaper than these hybrids which would be plain Zombie Synchro with Il Blud and such. This might be around $120 because mezuki will still cost some if you decide to spring for him and so will DAD. Hope this helps:) NYKid8295 00:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
The Zombie idea sounds quite nice along with the lightsworn, i dont have many Zombie cards but i have 2 friends which bought both zombie structure decks so i could trade with them, dont worry about the currency change il work that out, but would you mind making a deck with the zombie/lightsworn base and with a few of the synchron monster cards if it isnt too much trouble. thanks in advance. Lenku 01:26, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
  • I dont suggest Synchrons because they are very slow, all except for Quick Synchron. I can try and see if i can fit him in. This wont take long at all, i'll just give you my ideal decklist for the idea (seeing have a very good base that i already tested out numerous times).It is pretty consistent and it would be even more if i had all the cards i needed/wanted (i have no mezukis, no charges and i need a 3rd Ryko). I find the tuners i am already using to be very good with awesome effects and i always get double syncros with these tuners (Deep Sea Diva and Plaguespreader Zombie) and Gale helps with his awesome ability so i would rather leave the synchrons out because i find myself very hard pressed for space even when i switch out the cards i have for the cards i want because they are used in the same numbers. You might have to wait just a little because i am currently doing 2 other decks although i kinda already have this done but i need to get back on track with the decks i already took up:/ NYKid8295 23:23, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
  • The idea of having quickdraw as the only synchron is a good idea, since i can use him in place of 3 other ards, his ability is good especially when combod with Quillbolt for a quick nitro summon, and dont worry bout posting it up soon, i have time plus it gives me a chance to see what cards i can get off friends before i have to buy them from sites. thx again for the help Lenku 01:03, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, i can try something else for this deck. Instead of using Zombies, i can try Quillbolt, Synchron, Gardna and Gorz! Well, the idea of zombiecharge doesnt even connect to using synchron because his level is too high and Zombies are at level 4 usually in this build. That's why i advise against it if you want a ZombieCharge. If you want an LS driven, graveyard dependant, turbo/quick synchro build, then i can try that new idea. Give me your thoughts. NYKid8295 18:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • well i would like to try the lightsworn zombie deck as its something i have never tried before so it would be an enjoyable experience which is one of the reasons why i play the game, the synchrons dont have to be included, unless u want to try to include them. as said, i think your zombie lightsworn deck is a good idea to use. thanks again. Lenku 00:15, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
  • Ok, i'll make two decklists then: one with and without synchrons:) I like the synchron idea though its untested so i'll give it a shot, it shouldnt take foreve but i have a BW deck to do as well, and a research porject so it might be a little till i can get this because i have to at least finish the BW before i do this because i dont have internet at home right now and it has been requested for a while so i have to do his first. NYKid8295 15:35, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • sounds cool, cant wait to see them, but as mentioned time is not a worry for me i understand that there were others before me. Lenku 15:42, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the wait. But here's your deck.

30 pounds is about 60 sing dollars? And change it to American cash it is around 40 bucks. Its quite small to fit in almost all the cards, but there is no harm proxying first, right? unless so, I'll make edits. -Flushy 13:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

  • looks good, cant wait to try it out, i checked, 60 sing dollars is just under 30 pound so its not that expensive, im able to go higher i just didnt want to start off 2 high incase of going even higher. thanks for the deck, as said before looks great Lenku 15:38, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is the Zombie Charge i use. It uses more monsters because they are what you want in your grave. I dont use DAD because his summoning condition doesnt usually work out for me and with this deck you will be miling too fast so you will probably have a lot more than three DARK monsters in your grave, at least i do. This is also more consistent because of Krebons which allows me to stall if i need to and because when i use Diva, i usually mill the second one in my deck before it is the right time to make the play so Krebons is better. Caius is a beatstick as well as removal (RFG) and sometimes burn as well as Allure fodder. He is also easy to tribute summon because this deck swarms a lot. I also use DDR to get him back after i rfg him with allure. Arms Hole is used to get DDR and i can also summon PSZ with DDR and get two more syncros! I have to confess i got the Arms Hole/DDR thing from tantara because he used it against me a lot and i found it pretty nice when you have good monsters to use the combo with. I use lumina because she swarms and is good with tuners so you can sync A LOT. I dont use Solar Recharge because my Lightsworns are usually on the field and between allure, charge and my LS monsers, i mill and draw a lot already so Recharge is actually overkill. I will post the other deck i was thinking about another day because i am going to sleep because right now it's 12 p.m. in Albania:/ NYKid8295 23:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

  • i like how this deck works, especially with the swarming capabilities, which is something ive never tried before, and ive never really fiddled around with a RFG system so its something new to try, it will be awhile before i get few of cards so il be trying it on YVD, thanks for the help, looks really good. Lenku 23:26, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I will be using both decks as one thing i like to do with a few of my decks is be able to switch cards in and out against different people as between my friends i could be dueling up to 4 of about 10+ decks, ive recently been looking into lightsworns, becoming more intereasted by the minute so this will be an intereasting experience, thx for both of your help. Lenku 23:26, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


Darkness Gales

Hi, I would like some help on my Blackwing deck. As usual, the main strategy of this deck is to swarm the field and take control of the game. I have no spending limit but I do have a request. I noticed that Nykid had never edit a Blackwing deck on this wikia except his own so I request Nykid to edit this deck. If you don't mind.... Thx... :D Blackwing Guy 06:32, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Why there is a deck above my deck? Blackwing Guy 06:42, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Ummm... That is a weird request seeing as you know i havent done much with BW decks and my own is not totally awesome but hey, if thats what you want, i will do it. May i ask what your motive is though? Is this a "i know you but you dont know me" thing or something or i am just that famous? It might take a little bit to get to this because i am following up on the Quishie deck i just made, i took a Cyberdark deck request and if the guy who asked for a spirit deck says yes to my idea, then i will be taking his deck. I just fell flattered that people are requesting me and accepting me into all these "elite" threads so quickly when i have onlly been on here since August 20th 2009. NYKid8295 15:55, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Well, since Tantara and bewk had took a Blackwing deck before. If I choose them, there would be a big possibility that they would edit my deck the same or almost the same way they did with the previous deck they took. While I saw you had not took a Blackwing deck before and I would like your opinion. For some reason, it seems that you are an interesting deck builder to choose. Maybe because I don't really know how you edit someone's deck, especially blackwings since you are quite new here. Anytime is fine for me. As long you don't forget this deck... Hahaha... :D Blackwing Guy 03:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Just edited my deck a bit. Blackwing Guy 05:03, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Just telling you that I am going to have vacation so I will be off until 4th December, if you can't wait for me it's fine. Ps : I used my cousin's computer. 125.160.174.86 01:34, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Just asking if Nykid is still working on this deck. Blackwing Guy 11:54, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, this is the idea: Skill Drain barely does anything to BW because their main focus is special summoning from the hand by their own effects so they are not affected. The only monsters that are really affected are Gale (unfortunately), Vayu (in the best way possible), Diva (which wont SS the second) and Spy (same as Diva). You wont be able to use Bora's pierce effect or Shura's SS effect but Skill Drain stays on an estimated 1/3 of the duel as tantara has told me (i dont use it but i am contemplating doing so because it is great in BW and this deck looks really good to me too!) so you will get to use Shura and Gale as well as Diva and Spy. Now you are probably going to ask why i used Elphin (he's a weird choice) but if you think about it, you will be able to use Vayu so the perfect monster to use him with would be Elphin so you can summon Armor Master. He is also easier to summon because he doesnt require a tribute with a BW on the field while Sirrocco needs a monster on your opponent's side of the field and no monsters on yours:( Because of these two reasons and the fact that Skill Drain will be present on the field (if it was Sirrocco you wouldnt be able to use his effect anyway and his effect is the only reason he is played over Elphin) is why i chose him here. Another upside is that if you sync with Vayu and Elphin on the field you will be able to summon a second Armor Master because you can sync again in the grave:) This is the strength of the deck not to mention that it totally disrupts your opponent with Drain. That is another reason why i didnt add any DAD's or Dark Creators, etc. You wouldnt be able to use thier effects anyway so i decided to use more usable monsters. PSZ is an obvious choice in the deck because of Skill Drain and where his effect is acivated. The reason why i used Diva instead of Blizzard is because i find that Diva is so much better when you swarm because you can easily double sync with two level 4's already on the field. Since BW are the best at swarming, this is really a no-brainer. I use her in my Zombie deck so i know she works great and with Spy and Bora, you will easily get level 4's on the field. The s/t's are really just staples for BW decks. Dark Eruption is the only thing that may be a little weird to you. The reason why i use it is because it can help you reuse Gale and Kalut which would be great, especially since Gale is limited. I only use two Icarus because i dont like that you have to tribute but it is still useful when you have field advantage and helps you further the advantage. My Body as a Shield is to protet your swarms too. Thats about it, i hope you like this and i tried to be original with the deck while still keeping it powerful and fast:) Tell me what you think. The only other thing i want to say is that i wasnt very sure if this deck really needed Reckless Greed so i left it out because of space and because it really sets you back if you dont draw what you need (two draw phases are way too much, only one would have been a more reasonable cost):( NYKid8295 22:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

  • I'd appreciate if you let me know you if you got this and like/dislike it. Please let me know soon. NYKid8295 18:47, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry i didn't reply , I am busy with my school works and I forgot my username and password on this wikia since usually I didn't need to log in because my computer remembers it. I haven't tested this deck but it looks promising. I will give it a try and let you know in a few days. Thx for the deck , I really appreciate it. 118.136.151.68 10:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

earth control deck

i made a deck that is based on keeping ur oppononent fron using they're spells and traps, it uses mostly warriors, and i was wondering if u guys on the decks for free froum could help me make it better. i got this ideo one day after i got countered all day by everything i did, spells and traps.

earth control beatdown deck

Monster Cards

  • turret warrior
  • 2 fortess warrior
  • freed the matchless general
  • comrade swordsman of landstaer
  • 2 dd assailant
  • field commander rahz
  • exiled force
  • warrior lady of the wasteland
  • 2 xx-saber fuhelmnight
  • marauding captin
  • gigastone omega
  • 2 gigantes
  • giant rat
Total Monster Count: 17

Spell Cards

  • swords of reveiling light
  • shrink
  • cold wave
  • lightning vortex
  • mst
  • 3x ground calapse
  • warrior returning alive
  • rota
  • 2x double summon
Total Spell Count:12

Trap Cards

  • trap jammer
  • magic jammer
  • forced ceasefire
  • trap stun
  • torrential
  • magic cylander
  • sakoretsu
  • dark bribe
Total Spell Count:8

i still need three more monsters, but i dont kno which ones 2 add, and suggestions? I would like 2 kno if BEWK or NYKid could edit my deck, as since they seem the most availible, thank you very muchBlackwingbirdman 22:50, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

  • I will see if i can get to this because i have 3 decks to do so i cant guarantee anything but i like EARTH decks but you will have to wait if you want me to do it. I dont know about BEWK. NYKid8295 20:28, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

thats ok with me, thank you very muchBlackwingbirdman 22:50, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

  • BEWK is just as good as me, probably better but not that much so if he can get to it earlier than you should let him do it. I like the idea and it is good with the defensive aspect of earth monsters and also their brute power. The only thing i dont like about earth monsters is that they either have very strong defense or have strong atk but their effects arent so good and there arent a lot of good in-between monsters so there arent too many choices for those slots which. This is the Attributes main weakness. NYKid8295 22:13, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

yea i c wut ur sayin, and i'll go on his talk pg. and if he can get 2 it I'll ask him, i will follow up on this page, mucho graciasBlackwingbirdman 22:50, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

hey NYKid i was just wondering if u may take this deck, i have np waiting till ur donw with ur other 3 decks since will b my backup deckBlackwingbirdman 00:21, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

  • Wow, i am getting so popular. This is sweet! Ok sure. I finished one and the BW deck i am taking is easy because the deck is very straightforward so i will be with you soon. NYKid8295 10:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

thank you very much, i really apreciate itBlackwingbirdman 23:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

So you got this one, NYK? I can do it if you want, because it seems you are very active and busy. -bewk 06:29, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
  • I am going to be busy because i am going to continue piano lessons because i already did 4 years and i also have a research report to do. I am going to a couple of things for New Year's so i have to see if i have time. I also have to do my Cloudian Guide. I am going to take Fortune Ladies next since i am good at them and i have done/am doing a lot of decks with them. I also have to sort out want i want for X-Mas. I am getting DJ Hero from my mom, an Iphone from my dad, and my grandparents are getting me whatever i want so i have to follow up on all of that too;)I have a lot of stuff to do and i need to get back on track because i am not doing as well as i used to in school (I am at A-'s right now and i used to be an A+ student in everything). I have to straighten stuff out and that might take time away from me being on here and building other people's decks because i am up to my neck with all of mine. I can still take this i guess but next time i will have to do 2 at most at one time (this time i took 4). Thanks for asking. I want to try a rat warrior toolbox with this and toolboxes are my favorite deck type after aggro anyway so i will take it. NYKid8295 18:33, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I just got a better idea this morning!!! A Rock STUN deck that uses Gaia Plate as a beatstick and to remove monsters for Return from a Different Dimension so you can attack for big damage and even OTK!!! What do you think about that? Good idea, huh? NYKid8295 14:29, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

  • I've tried this idea, NYKid. It doesn't go well. I've even tried pure RFP Rock. That doesn't go well, either. :\ --Tantara (talk) 20:35, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Well it would be a small addend. It would be a rock stun deck with 2 Gaia Plate and Megarock dragon. The only other thing i would add would be Return from Different Dimension, D.D.R. and Arms Hole. I dont know what you added so maybe ou could tell me. Sign in on AIM Tantara! NYKid8295 21:42, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

yeah that rat toolbox deck sounds really good, if u can, may u do a rat toolbox deck please? thank you very muchBlackwingbirdman 19:58, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Well, i can try that but me and tantara are already working together on building a working Rock STUN/RFG build so if that comes out well maybe you should try that but i still will try a Rat Toolbox because i really like them:) I will give you the best so dont worry;) NYKid8295 22:52, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

if u to are working on one that is comming out really good, then i would happily use that deck.Blackwingbirdman 23:07, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

hey i was just wondering how my deck is coming along, since i havnt heard anything in a few daysBlackwingbirdman 23:11, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Its coming along but i dont have any internet at home and that is pissing me off. Thats why i havent got to work on this. All the internet cafes have closed because of New Year's so i have to wait till this monday to get anything done on my comp. Right now i am at a cafe with wireless. I might get this done and up today but i have to do my research too so i cant guarantee anything. Sorry. Me and Tan tried to get the Rock RFG thing done but he got bored with it and i cant test it alone so... i dont know what to do. The deck isnt hard but it is inconsistent because it is a little slow although it can be awesome because of rock bombardment (which is a Rock type foolish burial that burns too). I'll just go with the toolbox because it is more consistent. It is coming, dont worry about that much:) NYKid8295 15:10, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

  • This is it. I hope you like it. I will explain stuff about the deck under here.

This is basically what i imagined for the deck: Use mill effects to get monsters in the grave so you can use the Bazoo Return part of the deck to OTK, meanwhile you use Rat to Toolbox and get any Earth Monsters in the deck except for Bazoo (he has 1600 ATK). Mole and Exiled Force are to remove any threats from the field, Momonga for defense and life point gain, Card Trooper to mill and you can even summon another Rat which would be best if your opponent has multiple monsters on his field so you can have the chance to use your monster's effect, but be wary of the number of Rat's still in your deck because you can lose all of hem if you dont play it right and you will lose because you will be forced to top deck because you cant search. Although this is a smaller risk because i included Momonga and a Sangan as well, you have to be careful. Gold Sarc and Mask of darkness is to get your Return from D.D. from either your grave or deck. Trap Stun is to make sure you are safe when you attempt the otk. Wing Wind Blast will definitely set your opponent back a turn, trust me, i have used it in Zombie Charge and i always force tantara to wait another turn, lol. Raikegi Break is more destruction and i advise you to lose a monster if you already have or are about to attempt the otk or have Bazoo out. The deck should be consistent as it is a toolbox bt i havent tested it, i cant really test any of the decks i make but i am already skilled in building decks and it is easy for me to balance the decks i make and figure out how the deck will play out and fair in a duel. With this deck, you will be at a constant risk because the deck isnt a swarming deck and the monsters arent really powerful, just useful and they help you reach your goal. You have good removal and disruptive cards in the deck so you will give your opponent a hard time. Most of the time you will probably be able to set up your otk but your chances of winning with this deck against BW or LS and such is pretty slim because they have power and can make big plays easy. This is a good deck but you have to figure out your plays well first. This isnt really a beginners deck, it is for someone at a medium level. This deck relies more on you than on the cards. Drawing well helps but you still need to know what you are doing. I hope this helps. If it doesnt work out for you, just say the word and i will fix it. Please tell me how it works out either way. Happy Holidays too, even though it is a little late:) NYKid8295 18:19, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

thank you so much it looks really good. i will use it in two weeks at the tourney and then i'll give feedback on how it worked. thank you again and happy holidays to u too.Blackwingbirdman 23:51, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


Diva Frog Deck

I was playing in my local tourney today and it occured to me I could turn my girl's s Frog deck into a diva frog deck. Here is the current deck:

I have an a idea where this would be good but I am at a lost for where to start. I plan on adding Sea Dragon Lord Gishilnodon but not sure what should go and what should stay. I appreciate all the help one could give and thanks in advance. If it won't work just tell me and I will let you get back to where you guys were in the list.

Duelist33(My Talk) 00:12, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Here is the final build for the above request of turning it into a Synchro Deck, I took away the Deep Sea Divas and added in different turner monsters, below the deck list is a record of duels with it so far, out of the playtesting stage of deck building. If you guys could suggest some fine tuning to it that would be great. I have always had Tantara do my decks as he goes down the line. I guess that no one else on the team feels that my decks are interesting to them. Which is fine, Tantara builds awesome decks, but it would be nice to see others thoughts on my decks. I don't care who does it, as whatever decks you guys build I put my own touches on them. But here is the deck list thus far:

Wins: 3
Loss: 3

I will explain the lack of certain cards, and the addition of other cards, I only run one Moray of Greed because POA gives draw power and thus far the times she has gotten two Moray's in hand it has been a dead draw, as the cards she could use were ones she wanted to summon not send to deck. A Major Upset is in there for other people's Synchro Monsters, the only monsters in her deck that it affects is her Ancient Fairy Dragon, and Stardust Dragon. Robbin' Goblin is in there for her powered up Submarine Frogs and her Earthbound Immortal, the rest of the deck is self-explanatory. Again some fine tuning is what I am looking for.

Duelist33(My Talk) 17:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

  • I'll work on this deck. My first deck was a Frog synchro deck. Than I switched to current BF. Pls be patient and wait for a day or two. --Flushy 13:18, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Its pretty well outlined in this case. Removed synchros because frogs have levels too low for synchro play. Junk Synchron can only do up to 5. Used more cards to protect your monster instead of using Gravity Bind. Increased number of Robbin' Goblin copies for more stable control. Sangan is a all out toolbox in this case to search both the EBI and your frogs. --Flushy 10:28, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

Duelist33(My Talk) 20:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)


Nightmare Burner

I was wondering could you make me a deck that would burn your opponent with the use of skull invitation and gravekeeper's servant, toll, etc.... I would really appreciate the help thanks in advanced!97.119.88.241 04:51, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

I'll help you. Is there a certain limit to what you're willing to spend? --Blue (Talk) 22:32, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
  • 40-50 at max thanks. 97.119.88.241 06:41, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll try and have it done by Monday (Tuesday at the latest). --Blue (Talk) 04:58, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so I went a bit over the budget (sorry, but hopefully it won't be so bad if you already have some of these). Total cost is around $60. The main idea is to search out Skull Invitation (through A Cat of Ill Omen) as soon as possible and burn your opponent quickly. Needle Worm and the Morphing Jars force your opponent to lose cards, usually in large amounts. Gravekeeper's Servant also does this. Mask of Darkness recovers any traps that might be lost. Gravekeeper's Spy is mostly there to thin the deck out, so's Nimble Momonga. Junk Synchron may seem like an odd card to use here, but since the deck has so many Level 2 monsters I figured you might as well abuse that and Synchro Summon every once in a while (Especially if you summon Junk Warrior and have him increase his ATK to large amounts, which was kinda fun to do in testing). The spells in this deck either serve to stall or recycle your Flip-Effect monsters. Ceasefire adds burn and Imperial Custom protects Skull Invitation from stuff like MST and Heavy Storm and whatever else your opponent may use. I hope you like it and good luck. If you're not satisfied, you can ask for a re-do or you can ask one of the other deck builders to help. --Blue (Talk) 05:30, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

  • I love it but im making 1 small adjustment of my own free will and that is adding swords of revealing light for additional defense thank you very much i love it, i also added another card i forget what its called but its effect is to "every time a moster is normal, special or flip summoned it is changed to defense position." it helps me when i have to monsters on the field or if i wanna flip a weak monster. thanks 97.119.93.133 14:13, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
Glad you like it. Oh and the card you're talking about is "Stumbling". --Blue (Talk) 19:59, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
  • yep =) uour smart lol thanks again 97.119.93.133 21:01, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Cloudian deck


  • Please sign your post with 4 tildes (~). And there are at least two different cloudian decks in the archives, I recommend that you look at them. --Tantara (talk) 17:02, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
  • im sorry my badSlipknot563 21:18, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
  • also may i ask if bewk could possibly build this deck for me just cause he's made a deck for me before and i loved how it turned out (if you remember it was the dark gemini deck and i ended up beating my friends xsaber deck with it that i could never beat even with my gladiator beast deck) well anyways i would love it if bewk could do this one just cause i think that the way he makes decks is really usefulSlipknot563 05:31, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
    • I'm glad the Gemini deck worked out.

I am not the best at Cloudian decks, but I think this is a good build. How do you like it? -bewk 00:01, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

  • i like the looks of it i think it will be a good deck and the gemini's are great i use them more than my gladiator beasts or lightsworns and it is a lot of fun and i see this one being the same i cant wait to start collecting and try this deck out and i will let you know how it turns out =)Slipknot563 01:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
    • Thank you sir, I appreciate the feedback. I had the DARK Gemini deck idea stuck in my head for a year, so when I read your deck request, I was eager to try it out. -bewk 03:16, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
  • im glad i got it from you cause its a lot of fun and my friends hate me for it cuz it just shuts down other people and just kills a there strategys especially my friend with the blackwings


Cyberdark-Twilight

I'd like to try if it's possible a Cyberdark-Twilight Deck; it's just to see how'd you do it. I did it already but I guess it sucks. Thanks since now, guys...

--186.16.64.11 19:29, December 25, 2009 (UTC)gray_kaiser

I still love the idea for the deck, and I would like to take this for my trail to join Decks for Free!. I am almost finished with the deck, and I will post it here when it is finished.--Akiza Izayoi 04:34, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you want to take this Aki. It will be quite challenging. I cant really see how this is going to work out. Do you think you could let me in on the idea because if you pull this off, it will be a very interesting deck. Cyberdarks are really poised to be in their own dedicated deck. The only way i am thinking you could do this, is a CyberSworn deck that uses Black Salvo for synchros and maybe Black Rose Dragon to clear the field and then overload fuse to summon A Cyberdark Dragon and equip Black Rose, and LS for power, swarm, and milling. NYKid8295 13:55, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I think I can handle it. I'm pretty experianced with Lightsworn hybrids, and I'm actually taking time on this build, other than my Cactus Fighter OTK, which I literally made in 15 minutes. Thanks anyway though.--Akiza Izayoi 17:08, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is what I've come up with so far.

This is what I came up with. There are very few targets for the Cyberdark pieces themselves to equip with, just 3 Hunter Dragns. However, this isn't really a problem. Usually, the pieces are busy being fused into the Cyberdark Dragon, or being brought back by Black Salvo for a quick field nuke with Black Rose Dragon. I realize that the deck may not run consistantly every single duel, since Twilight is inconsistant to begin with, but this build provids a lot of ways to control the Graveyard, and it can usually start with a decent to amazing opening hand. It even ended up overpowering my Plant deck in a very long duel.

Thanks a lot Aki, is perfect. Now I need the Archfiend/Archlord Deck and I'll be ready for the Regional Tournament here.

--186.16.72.183 20:46, December 29, 2009 (UTC)gray_kaiser


Advanced Format Chaos

  • A Chaos Deck. Judgment Dragon needs to be included, and the necessary Lightsworns to Summon it, of course. No Blackwings. It has to be competitive and there's no money limit. ASAP please. The Horror'Speak if you dare 15:29, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • I like the request. Straight to the point and reasonable. I like your sig a lot too. Would you like Chaos Sorcerer in the deck. He's the only chaos monster left until Chas Goddess comes out. I think he's ok and easy to summon but he's not my favorite to be honest. BTW, do you want Honest in the deck??? You probably do and i am a little silly in asking but if you are going to want to run 2 JD, at least 4 dif LS monsters, Necros, DAD, Honest all at the same time it might get a little hectic if you know what i mean. I could try all three but i dont know how consistent it will be. Honestly, i think therein lies Chaos' weakness as a deck, too many big monsters and too much going on in one deck. Most like to use Gorz, Tragoedia sometimes, etc so with whats already going on this only adds more to whats already there. Give me your ideas and i will be glad to help:) NYKid8295 16:59, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • Well, of course I'd focus on the Lightsworns with DARK Monsters that benefit from the self-milling, but you're the Deck Builder. It needs to be as consistent as possible and fast at the same time. Quite difficult, that's why I ask your help. Just remember that it needs to be competitive. Thanks and good luck. The Horror'Speak if you dare 17:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • Wow, you responded quick. Anyway, i will try my best. I cant test the decks out really, but i use Zombie Charge so i have some experience with LS even though my deck is relatively new but i have tested it a lot, against Tantara. I won almost every time:) I will do my best. I just have a BW deck i need to make for another user but BW dont take long at all for me so this will be done soon but school starts this tuesday for me, and i have a research project too, so i have to work on this during tomorrow and next weekend, assuming my internet connection is fixed:/ Anyway, i will get it to you somehow:) It wont take insanely long so dont worry. NYKid8295 18:27, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • how do you test online decks??? im just wondering for future use if thats okay? ^-^? X-XDemonLeonX-x 21:12, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • I test the decks that I take over YVD (yugioh virtual desktop/dueling). It's a program in which you use can create decks out of any cards that you want and then can duel with them over the internet. It's an excellent way to practice or test out decks and is downloadable from xerocreative.com. --Tantara (talk) 23:28, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
  • ive downloaded it but where do i sign up for the username? X-XDemonLeonX-x 06:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • It's been a while since I've done it, I'll tell you what I remember. You need to register a username, so go to chat. ONce you get there, type in /nick DESIREDNICK. You should then be told that you need to register and it should tell you how to do it from there (it's /msg nickserv register PASSWORD E-MAIL, I think.) --Tantara (talk) 01:04, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
  • Hey, this is NYKid. Sorry but my comp. is in the chop shop (busted speakers) so i am using my mom's. Anyway this is the deck. It is pretty straightforward, don't think i really need to explain anything as you sound like someone who is experienced enough:)

This is it. The deck includes a lot of monsters mainly because with Charge and Recharge as well as other LS monsters, you wil be milling a lot. I only used 2 Honest because i already have 3 Gardna. I didnt use DAD because Sorcerer, Gardna and PSZ all RFG themselves so i doubt you will have 3 DARKs at the right time, you are better off just using them straight away. Beckoning Light is good because you also include darks so this will basically allow you to ditch all your DARKs for LIGHTs and kick your opponent's @$$. Grepher is in there because he is an easy SS with 7 "level 5 or higher" monsters, it allows you to ditch dead draws too. Allure is more draw power and you can lose a Gorz or Sorcerer if you dont need them at the moment. Should be consistent but the thing is that to play a powerful Chaos, the deck will become more inconsistent because it uses bigger cards. If you want to know what i would have done, i would have dropped Sorcerer altogether and used 3 honest. I might not have used allure at that point though. Otherwise, i would not change anything except maybe add an Aurkus to have another Lightsworn just to be on the safe side so that i know i would get at least 4 different LS in the grave. I gave you this though because Grepher definitely reduces risk by allowing you to lose useless high level monsters and honest and Gardna protect you so this is still a good build but i would try to up the consistency because i like consistency even though i like LS. Hope you like it:) 80.78.79.236 21:14, January 13, 2010 (UTC)