Forum:Future successful archetypes

What do you think are some of the archetypes that are making their way into TCG that will go into being extremely competitive? I have four on my mind right now: Narturias (maybe), Inverz (poooosibly), Dragunitys, and Scraps.--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 06:13, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fabled and Dragunity. Falzar FZ (talk • contribs) 06:17, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

No Scraps?--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 06:20, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. Needs more good cards. There should be more coming out. Falzar FZ (talk • contribs) 06:25, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dragunity, Scrap, and Naturia. Inverz aren't as strong, because they lose hand and field advantage quickly. They can beatdown and occasionally OTK, but they have nothing on defense or recovery.

Dragunity: Insane. Dragon Canyon lets them toolbox for whatever needed, and their Instant Synchro potential is crazy with Phalanx. Aklys provides even more speed and unbelievable free destruction, and Cards of Consonance is a perfect draw engine. Dragunity Dux provides as the main beatstick while fetching Phalanx and Aklys, and Legionnaire has an incredible "2 for 1" combo when equipping Aklys. Definately going to be one of the archetypes to watch out for in the future.

Scrap: Very good. They don't have the beatdown or speed of Dragunities, but god, oh GOD do they have defense. It takes a whole turn to punch through a single Scrap Goblin, regardless of how huge your army is. Oh, and once you kill it, it brings itself back! Scrap Dragon and Scrap Twin Dragon don't dissapoint either, having near-endless loops with their revival effects. Great control archetype, definately going to see play.

Naturia: Very underlooked, but actually a deadly control archetype. From a lot of experiance playing these, I can say that Naturia will see some time in the spotlight, even if it's not as much as Scrap or Dragunity. Naturia Forest can provide a LOT of hand advantage, and Naturia Bamboochute almost shuts down the game for your opponent when online and protected by Divine Wrath, Divine Warning, and Naturia Stinkbug. Cliff and Cherry provide deck thinning and Synchro/Tribute fodder, and Fruitfly is an extremely annoying card to deal with. They also have excellent Synchro potential, where even more lockdown potential is kept in Beast, Balkion, and Landoise.

Anyway, those are my predictions.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 09:14, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fabled: They are as underlooked as Naturia in my opinion. Besides they can discard and recover from the graveyard kind of like the Dark World. Plus they fit with other archetype that need some discarding like Infernities and Dark World and if you want Light, than Lightsworns are there to back you up. Plus they are light monsters so it can fit well with synchro cards that need Light Monsters to synchro summon it. These are my guesses. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 18:00, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

definately scraps. they are going to make a huge splash and become an extremely competitive deck in the future. as for naturias, well they are very scary. dragunity, another amazing archetype, is going to be competitive as soon as it comes out. overall i think scraps will be more competitive because of their ability to come back and recycle themselves. just my opinion--Bwinggale (talk • contribs) 18:46, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely Scraps. And they have like, what, one trap support card? That means they can also run a lot of trap staples.--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 19:10, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe Watts will be good too. Any thoughts on Watts?--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 01:42, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... yeah, Dragunity and Scrap definitely have it in them to be very, very good, and here's why:

• Dragunity: After playing this deck for a while, I've figured out something - it's similar to a Junk and Debris Deck. But MUCH MUCH better, thanks to the added destruction power from Legionnaire and Aklys, the search power from Dragon Canyon, and the easy level 8s from Dragunity Knight - Vajuranda's effect (equip Dragunity Phalanx). And it has draw power too. It's overall a very flexible archetype.
• Scrap: This is slower than Dragunity, but it is also very powerful. That deck has the ability to constantly recycle cards through revival (Scrap Golem, Scrap Chimera, Scrap Searcher, Scrap Dragon, Scrap Twin Dragon) and returning to the hand (Scrap Beast, Scrap Goblin, and I refuse to mention the other one because it SUCKS). Scrap Goblin, Searcher, and the two Dragons can easily maintain field presence, while the rest maintains hand presence. Meanwhile, the Dragons leverage this advantage and turn it into your opponent's disadvantage, by destroying their cards. And if either of those is destroyed, you get another monster back. Oh, and one more thing - special summon Scrap Searcher to your opponent's side of the field with Scrap Golem, and your opponent loses all of their face-up monsters. I so wish I had realized this myself, because it is a DIABOLICAL MANEUVER.

As for the rest, Naturia is pretty good as a control archetype. Fabled is OK, but The Fabled as a sub-archetype is much better. That thing can swarm like a mother@#$%er. The only others I can think of are Watts and Karakuri. Watts... I didn't find them to be all that good. And Karakuri seems OK, but not top-tier. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 03:56, July 16, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

Watts are alright, but have no consistency at bringing back Wattcube from the graveyard for power. I wonder what'll happen to Genex... IonCharge (talk • contribs) 13:16, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm hoping Ritua will bring Rituals to a top tier. Drew-Gi-Oh! (talk • contribs) 16:21, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

As much as I'd love for that to happen, I doubt it...--BassNettoHikari2 (talk • contribs) 16:29, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Counting Herald decks, Rituals are at least high-tier already. But that looks amazing, with all the search power. Practically every monster in the archetype is a searcher. Should be fun! Runer5h (talk • contribs) 18:22, July 16, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

Yeah, I just saw the Rituas too. They look extremely badass. Being successful, meh. Looks like they need more support.--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 19:38, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed since they are like the oldest type of cards besides fusions and such. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 02:22, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

They're not really an archetype but the new beast and "unicorn" and such, cards are pretty good (provided we don't lose rescue cat which i doubt it will get forbidden but lots of people think otherwise) with their synchro possibilities, such as an instant level 7, 6, 5, and 8.--Berfomet (talk • contribs) 01:06, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that make beast types pretty powerful. And it's about time they made a beast archetype. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 01:30, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Um, hello? Ojamas? The Fabled? Runer5h (talk • contribs) 01:43, July 19, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

Oh yeah sorry. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 01:49, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

They're technically not an archetype just a collection of monsters, of the same type with related effects, they share no name relation, they are simply a collection of beast monsters that related to removing, Ojamas and The Fabled are archetypes do to the name relation, just sayin--Berfomet (talk • contribs) 01:47, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Good point. Sorry I kind of misunderstood. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 01:49, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its not a problem just remember an archetype is a series of cards with a name relation or otherwise connection, not just type, and I noticed, Fallensilence you are flooding this forum with posts once more, so i will just ask if you could, try to keep the posts as relevant to the subject as possible, I have noticed a few times you stray from the subject at hands, thank you.--Berfomet (talk • contribs) 01:56, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

hmm speaking of dragunitys.....since there about dragons and winged beasts maybe i could make dragunity wings? lol just a thought i havent seen the archtype yet Raiga (talk • contribs) 02:54, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Most definately not. Considering the Winged-Beasts of the archetype (such as Dragunity Dux Dragunity Legionnaire) revolve around Equipping their Dragon counterparts from the Grave, the Blackwings would merely get in the way. Most Dragunities only have synergy with other Dragunities, so they're not really a splashable archetype.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 03:01, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Naturia-Cat decks are starting to appear in TCG... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 07:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Gemini, Watt, Amazoness. Good cards, not enough support though... Automation44 (talk • contribs) 07:22, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Automation44

I've been working with a Scrap deck for a while now. Its pretty nice. They have their own Foolish Burial, but much better and faster. If you have 3 Scrap Searchers in your Grave when another Scrap monster is destroyed and sent to the Grave, bam, there's 3 more monsters that you have to get through. Scrap Twin Dragon can loop around by getting out Scrap Golem when he's destroyed by your opponent, then use Golem's effect to get Scrap Beast out, then Sync out again for Scrap Twin......or Mist Wurm, I guess. As for Stardust, he's relatively hard to get out, excluding the dumb Scrap Hunter and Scrap Soldier monsters. It's very easy to get a 6 Star Synchro out with Golem+Scrap Goblin, and therefore, I hope in the next booster pack that Konami announces that they not only have more support for Scraps, but a 6 star Synchro of them, especially because you know that you use Scrap Beast for Synchroing more than Scrap Goblin. They need to give Scrap Goblin more purpose for being a Tuner. VERY competitive deck we have here.--Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 08:19, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

You wouldn't be able to get Mist Wurm with only 2 monsters. And have you forgotten about Scrap Chimera? Runer5h (talk • contribs) 20:30, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

More like a competitive archetype. Otherwise all of that is right. The Scraps look pretty flexible in some dueling situations and plus maybe discarding can give some more advantages. Anyways I hope I can see a lot of this in the future. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:16, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

What about Scrap Chimera?-Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 21:33, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's got a cool 1700 ATK, and it combos with Scrap Beast for an easy Scrap Dragon. You could also special summon Scrap Soldier (except for the fact that Scrap Soldier stinks) for Scrap Twin Dragon. And you could special summon Scrap Goblin - not just to summon Scrap Archfiend, but for use as a defensive wall. And because of the recycling possible with your Scrap monsters, you can keep getting use out of it. Runer5h (talk • contribs) 22:16, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Runer5h

What about fish deck??it is an old deck ...but with shooting sta dragon and red nova dragon, it became a new deck

Scrap, Dragunity, Jurrac, Tech Genus, Karakuri, Inverz, Gusta, Fabled, all of these have a damn lot of potential, some of it unseen. I believe a majority of these archetypes will rise to be meta/tier 1. IonCharge (talk • contribs) 18:08, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

True six samurais anyone ? Karakuri is decent in some some ways but still need to see more of its support (btw i think the card images are really ugly for them and thats the thing putting me off collecting them) Varion might stand a chance when omega comes out.Heaven's Judgement (talk • contribs) 21:51, November 10, 2010 (UTC)