Forum:OCG Ruling Sources

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Konami starts to put OCG rulings on the card database site(japanese version)[1] and now the official faq also redirects to that page. So now all the source links that we have on the wiki for the ocg rulings are dead links(They redirects to main page of the database). So we need update the reference/source for all OCG rulings now.--X-Metaman (talkcontribs) 18:55, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's going to be a pain, updating all the old links. One thing that could help make the code cleaner and maybe quicker to add would be a template where you just enter the id of the ruling. So we'd use something like...
<ref>{{ja ruling ref|10000|Can I use "Proto-Cyber ​​Dragon" as Fusion Material for "Cyber ​​End Dragon"?}}</ref>
... which would be the same as saying...
<ref>[] Q&A » Can I use "Proto-Cyber ​​Dragon" as Fusion Material for "Cyber ​​End Dragon"?</ref>
-- Deltaneos (talk) 22:02, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
It will take a lot of time to update the rulings with their new links, but it must be done. That template Deltaneos made may help and save us some time. Delta, can you make one for these links too?:
<ref>[] Q&A » The Wicked Worm Beast</ref>
something like: <ref>{{ja s ruling ref|4029|The Wicked Worm Beast}}</ref>
ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 07:53, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
Aren't the numbers we are going to put into that template always going to be the same as the "database_id" for that page? since the database seems to do the "mentions in other rulings" thing for us I think.
If it is, we can just make "database_id" a SMW query and so we only need to update the main card page and bots can update the rulings pages. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 13:37, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
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I see, so that links to the list of all rulings for a particular card. What does the "s" in the template name stand for btw? The url uses the same "cid" as the card search. Since we're adding those IDs to the card articles, we could use SMW to make a template, where you just need to add...
<ref>{{ja ruling ref}}</ref>
... to Card Rulings:The Wicked Worm Beast and it'll change to the desired output you gave above. Then if you want to use it on any other page, you'd use something like...
<ref>{{ja ruling ref|The Wicked Worm Beast}}</ref> or <ref>{{ja ruling ref|cid=4029}}</ref>
And to link to an individual ruling...
<ref>{{ja ruling ref|fid=10000|desc=Can I use "Proto-Cyber ​​Dragon" as Fusion Material for "Cyber ​​End Dragon"?}}</ref>
Do you think Konami will be putting the English rulings up there some time? In that case, we should probably have one template where you use...
<ref>{{ruling ref|ja|...}}</ref> or <ref>{{ruling ref|en|...}}</ref>
-- Deltaneos (talk) 13:44, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
I think we would need to ensure the templates all still work properly if SMW is disabled, too... That could be done via {{subst:ruling ref loader|ja/en|other optional parameters}} (name not set, BTW), where the substitution replaces it with {{ruling ref|ja/en|database ID|other optional parameters}}. "Ruling ref" could then be designed to output a notice and categorize pages when it's not given an ID (though for maximum usefulness, it would load the ID via SMW in these cases; this would also allow the notice to generate the exact code that should be used). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:18, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
I don't think Konami is going to release any individual Rulings for the TCG anymore. Kevin Tewart said that with the new PSCT, the players don't need to run into FAQs and Rulings anymore in order to see how the cards work, so no new Rulings will be added to Konami's official site from the sets after Extreme Victory. The only TCG Rulings we can get now are from Konami's Judge Forum and emails. ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 08:37, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think the ID numbers isn't only being used on the database. I found a page which seems to contain the same ID values to its corresponding card but it was uploaded in 2011. If someone can find a complete list, I reckon if you add a little regex, you could generate most of the content which goes on the pages at User:ATEMVEGETA/OCG Rulings (among other things, like botting all the numbers for all the pages).
(Though, I can't seem to download the list, with extreme minimal effort) -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 14:36, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

It's used in some video games. See the order of Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories: Card List for example. You'll also see that gaps in the database IDs correspond to video game only cards. -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:13, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
The list contains around 1000 of them, so it's a pretty good boost I guess.
I managed to download that list without any fancy stuff like paying or uploading to that site via Google Cache :P
I'll see if I can bot add them to pages. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:40, August 17, 2012 (UTC)