Editing Forum:Preferred card image

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# Newest Errata (lore)
# English (if not available, then Japanese)
# Clearest image
# Avoid [[Ultimate Rare]]s and [[Ghost Rare]]s
# If it's an anime only card, clearest screenshot, but if a [[Tag Force]] image is available, we use that.
# If it's a manga only card, clearest image.

From observations, the preferred card image we use goes in that order. But what about alternate artworks, etc? Does anyone have more to add to the list? <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">-[[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]]- ([[User talk:Falzar FZ#top|talk page]]|[[User:Falzar FZ/Tips and Guides|useful stuff]])</span> 00:22, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

== Alternate Artworks ==

As far as alternate artworks are concerned, they should only be used on the card's page if they are easier to see, or for some reason easier to get a good scan of than the original card.  I don't know if this is the case for any cards, however, if it happens to be, then it makes sense to go with the clearest image, regardless of which artwork it is. [[User:Jon Kovacs|Jon Kovacs]] ([[User talk:Jon Kovacs|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jon Kovacs|contribs]]) 03:16, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

:Also, relating to card clarity, making sure that the picture is a scan could be a requirement.  There are at least a few cases when card images, like [[Darklord Asmodeus|these]] [[Darklord Edeh Arae|three]] [[Darklord Ukoback|cards]] are pictures that were taken of the cards, in cases.  Just a thought.

:Also, there are (as far as I've seen) at least two different placeholder images (one of an anime character holding a card backwards, one of a scan of the back of a card) used when a card's image is unavailable.  Should one of them be made the standard one to use?  Or should there be one for manga cards without images, one for anime cards without images, and one for OCG/TCG cards without images?  I think it would seem a little... neater I guess if they were uniform.  [[User:Jon Kovacs|Jon Kovacs]] ([[User talk:Jon Kovacs|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jon Kovacs|contribs]]) 03:22, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

:: Unlike 'newest errata' (which can affect gameplay and rulings), there isn't a decisive reason to use the newest artwork, nor have I seen a [[:Category:Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki|Project page]] which says which to use.
:: Those would be photos of the card, which were then rotated in Photoshop. If someone has a clearer photo or a scan of them, they could use the 'Upload a new version of this file' option on the image page. Photos seem to be acceptable if a scan is not available. 
:: The one where someone is holding the card backwards is for a manga card, the [[Card backings|card backing]] is for the anime, TCG or OCG, depending on where the card can be found. <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">-[[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]]- ([[User talk:Falzar FZ#top|talk page]]|[[User:Falzar FZ/Tips and Guides|useful stuff]])</span> 07:03, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

:::{{t|CardTable2}} uses any of several card backing placeholder images, depending on what game/medium the card is from - these placeholder images (and several other card backings) can be found in [[:Category:Card backings]].
:::For OCG/TCG cards, the preferred image is the most recently-released English card (or, if the card hasn't been released in English, the most recently-released Japanese card), though I don't know if this is actually documented on any policy page. There is no "official" preference for card edition ([[1st Edition|1st]] vs. [[Unlimited Edition|Unlimited]] Edition) or rarity AFAIK, though it would be good to decide on that.
:::I, personally, don't know of any case where more than one artwork version of the same card was released in the same set; the entire "Alternate Artwork" thing, at least in regards to card images themselves, seems to be several years outdated, in my experience.
:::On a more general note, according to the [[Project:Image Policy|image policy]], card images are preferred to be 400x580 PNG images (it doesn't say anything on scans vs. photos). <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 19:23, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

:::: I still think that clearest image should be considered over the 1st-Unlimited and newer set image; and that 1st-Unlimited and newer set image is trivial. Are there any advantages for using the newer set images? <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">-[[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]]- ([[User talk:Falzar FZ#top|talk page]]|[[User:Falzar FZ/Tips and Guides|useful stuff]])</span> 00:33, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

:::::"Newest set image" has been the official preference for years (it used to be "first set image", but changed at some point (I suspect I had a hand in that change, but haven't looked to see if I can find supporting diffs)). If a given image isn't clear, it means a clearer version should be found or created and uploaded, not that we should use a different version. I'm not sure there really is any advantage to using the newest set image in particular as opposed to any other image of a card; it's really more a matter of "this is what the policy says, now stop edit-warring". <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 06:00, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

::::::Is there any way with scripts to make a series of tabs with the different card arts on the main card page? It could allow a wiki reader to click on tabs to see the various artworks without going to the side by side comparison that is the artwork gallery.
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 :::::"Newest set image" has been the official preference for years (it used to be "first set image", but changed at some point (I suspect I had a hand in that change, but haven't looked to see if I can find supporting diffs)). If a given image isn't clear, it means a clearer version should be found or created and uploaded, not that we should use a different version. I'm not sure there really is any advantage to using the newest set image in particular as opposed to any other image of a card; it's really more a matter of "this is what the policy says, now stop edit-warring". <span style="white-space:nowrap;">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ダイノ</span><span style="color:#080;">ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 06:00, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
-::::::Is there any way with scripts to make a series of tabs with the different card arts on the main card page? It could allow a wiki reader to click on tabs to see the various artworks without going to the side by side comparison that is the artwork gallery. <small>''—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:Pommydragon2525|Pommydragon2525]] ([[User talk:Pommydragon2525|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pommydragon2525|contribs]]) on 20:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC).''</small>
+::::::Is there any way with scripts to make a series of tabs with the different card arts on the main card page? It could allow a wiki reader to click on tabs to see the various artworks without going to the side by side comparison that is the artwork gallery.
-:::::::That is possible using JavaScript. We had that active for a while here before, although for every print, rather than just the alternate artworks. We didn't have a fallback for readers who didn't have JavaScript enabled, which resulted in them seeing a long line of images. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 20:59, February 24, 2011 (UTC)