Forum:Targetting cards and other q's

69.176.180.58 03:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC) writes:

Situation 1: I have "Pandemonium" on the field, along with Terrorking, Darkbishop, and Infernalqueen, and an "Imprisoned Queen Archfiend" in the grave. First, I increase the ATK of my Terrorking by 2000 using Infernalqueen and my other queen in the grave. Then I play "Checkmate" to attack directly with my Terrorking, tributing my Infernalqueen.

Question 1: Do I get to use the effect of "Pandemonium" to bring another LV 2 or lower monster to my hand since I tributed my Infernalqueen?

No. The effect of "Pandemonium" activates when an "Archfiend" monster is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard. Since "Infernalqueen Archfiend" was Tributed, not destroyed, the effect of "Pandemonium" will not activate. Net Effect: No.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Question 2: If I did attack directly, and my opponent activates "Magic Cylinder" (or something to negate an attack, or destroy my monster, e.g. "Sakuretsu Armor", etc.), can I roll a die to negate and destroy the card? "Magic Cylinder targets the attack of my Terrorking so...?

Yes. The effect of "Terrorking Archfiend" activates when it is targeted by any effect. Since both "Magic Cylinder" and "Sakuretsu Armor" target, the effect of "Terrorking Archfiend" would activate, and you would have a chance to negate and destroy your opponent's card through the roll of a die. Net Effect: Yes.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Situation 2: My friend has a set monster and 2 face-downs, and an "E-Hero Neos" in his grave. He then plays "Swing of Memories" to bring back Neos, flips "The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion", and sends back his Hex-Sealed and Neos, in order to Special Fusion Summon a LIGHT Neos Fusion, such as Glow Neos, etc.

Question: Is this legal? First off, to my knowledge most of the Neos Fusions are quoted as, "...by sending the above cards to your Deck. (You do not use "Polymerization".)" Since it's stated as so, I would believe it would be the equivalent of, "This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon with the above Fusion-Material Monsters." So therefore, Hex would not be able to be a substitute, nor can it be sent back into the deck.

You are quite correct. Fusion Monsters which specify that the "...above cards..." must be returned to the Deck cannot be Special Summoned (including Fusion Summon) from the Extra Deck except by returning to your Deck the Fusion-Material Monsters listed on the card; substitutes for Fusion-Material Monsters (e.g., "Versago the Destroyer", "King of the Swamp", and "The Light - Hex-Sealed Fusion") cannot be used. (If a Fusion Monster with this Summoning requirement is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard—or removed from play—after having been successfully Special Summoned in accordance to its requirements, it can be returned to play using normal means, such as "Monster Reborn" or "Dimension Fusion".) Net Effect: No.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Situation 3: Ritual Summoning spell cards have been around for some time. Some of the first Spell cards have the text as, "...whose total levels equal *number* or more from your hand or field..." However, some cards, such as "Advanced Ritual Art", "Contract with the Abyss", etc. have just "equal", not "or more".

Question: Does this still apply today? Or do they have to be equal to the Ritual Monster, like its counterpart, Synchros or can it be exceeding?

If the Ritual Spell Card specifies "...equal X or more...", the combined Levels of the monsters Tributed for the Ritual Summon can equal or exceed the Level of the Ritual Monster being summoned. On the other hand, if the Ritual Spell Card only specifies "...equal X...", the combined Levels of the monsters Tributed for the Ritual Summon must equal the Level of the Ritual Monster being summoned. Net Effect: Yes and no, depending on the Ritual Spell Card being used.
-Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Situation 3: I have "Rainbow Dragon" in my hand, and my partner has Neos on the field and he plays "Polymerization" and fuses his Neos on the field with my "Rainbow Dragon" in my hand.

Question 1: Is this legal?

No. Your partner can only use cards that are already on the field. As long as a card is on your (i.e., your team's) side of the field, your opponent may use it, but cards in a player's hand are not accessible to his/her partner while they are in the hand—although players on a team will usually look at each other's hands in order to strategize.
Net Effect: No.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Question 2: Since he fused it, then i assume "Rainbow Neos" is on his side of the field, correct?

If you are playing by the official rules for Tag Team Dueling, each time shares one Playing Field, with the same five Monster Zones, five Spell/Trap Zones, and one Field Spell Zone; Decks are separate, while the Graveyard and Removed From Play Zone are shared by both players on a team. There is no "his" side or "your" side of the field with respect to your own team--you share a side of the field.

Assuming your partner successfully Fusion Summons "Rainbow Neos", it will appear on your team's side of the field, since you and your partner do not have separate fields under the official rules of Tag Team Dueling. If you are using your own House Rules, I cannot advise you further without knowing the details of those rules.
Net Effect: Situation does not arise under official rules for Tag Team Dueling.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Question 3: If my opponent activates "De-Fusion", does "Rainbow Dragon go on my side of the field and Neos on his side of the field, or do they both go on his side of the field, or do they not come back at all?

As I explained in my answer to Question 3.3, "my side" and "his side" of the field do not exist under the official rules for Tag Team Dueling, since each team (you and your partner) share a side. If your partner activates "De-Fusion" on his/her turn, and both "Rainbow Dragon" and "Elemental Hero Neos" exist in your (shared) Graveyard, only "Elemental Hero Neos" will be Special Summoned to your (team's shared side of the) field. ("Rainbow Dragon" will not be Special Summoned since it's effect text states that it cannot be Special Summoned except from the player's hand. "De-Fusion" can still be activated, however—since both Fusion-Material Monsters used in the Fusion Summon of "Rainbow Neos" are present in your Graveyard—and it will still resolve because at least one of the Fusion-Material Monsters used in the Fusion Summon of "Rainbow Neos" can be Special Summoned from the Graveyard.) If you are using your own House Rules, I cannot advise you further without knowing the detailes of those rules. Net Effect: "Elemental Hero Neos" will be Special Summoned to your team's side of the field.
--Narchibald84 06:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Situtation 1
Answer: Don't know about Archfiends.

Situtation 2
Answer: You're right. Neos's Fusions can only be Special Summoned by returning their materials from the field to the Deck. So it can be Special Summoned by another card's effect ONLY if it was Special Summoned by its listed effect (see Semi-Nomi). Also, I'm not sure even if Neos's Fusions's summoning condition have been fulfilled, they can be Special Summmoned by Hexes.

Situation 3
Answer 1: No, that's not legal. Polymerization's effect: Send Fusion Material Monsters that are listed by a Fusion Monster Card from your hand or your side of the field to the Graveyard, and Special Summon the Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck. That means, if your opponent activates Polymerization, he can only use the materials in his hand or on his field. If you play Tag Duel and he is your partner, he can use monsters on your field because both of you are sharing the same field. But he cannot use the materials in your hand, even if he is your Tag Partner.
Answer 2: Because the first question's answer is "NO", than it won't be happened, except there's a card that allows it happen.
Answer 3: Because the first question's answer is "NO", than it won't be happened, except there's a card that allows it happen. But for now, I would assume that your opponent uses Super Polymerization to fuse his Neos and your Rainbow Dragon. De-Fusion's effect: In addition, if all the Fusion Material Monsters that were used for the Fusion Summon of that Fusion Monster are in your Graveyard, you can Special Summon them all to the field. If one material can't be Special Summoned, then so do the other materials. Rainbow Dragon cannot be Special Summoned except by fulfilling a special requirement listed in its text, or in Rainbow Dragon's case, you must have 7 Crystal Beast with different names in your Garveyard or on your side of the field combined. So, it can't be Special Summoned by another card's effect (see Nomi), except if the card which tries to Special Summon it has "ignoring the Summoning condition" text, just like on Rainbow Gravity's text. -- J0V1 P4RD0MU4N S14G14N the Keyblade Master 05:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I have a question, and I am new to this forum so I don't know where to post it. So the monster card's effect is: This card is uneffected by Trap cards. Can it be destroyed while Summoned by Trap Hole or Divine Wraith? --User:Gangster001 19:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC) (Unsigned)

No. Why would you think they could? Danny Lilithborne 20:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Because they are bloody UNeffected by Trap Cards, and Divine Wraith and Trap Hole are Trap Cards. --User:Gangster001 03:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC) (Unsigned)

• Just to clarify, the monster is not destroyed by "Trap Hole" or "Divine Wrath". For some reason, I'm getting the feeling that you though he meant "No, they're destroyed." Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~, since that automatically creates a signature for you. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 23:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)