Talk:Cosmo Blazer

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Blazer

Why was this card moved to Blazer? A blazer is a type of jacket, and there is no picture of the set, so it seems just like you copied it off of Shriek, who seem like they have no idea what a blazer and blazar are. MadRest 13:04, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Only a few websites have the name "Blazar" on it. I think only Shriek.twoday has "Blazar" on its name. Websites like Neoark, manjyomethunder.twoday and certain blogs have "Blazer" on its name. Pojo.biz has "Blazar" but it's because the thread is following shriek.twoday.--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 13:11, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not asking what other sites have it. I'm asking why we have it, when a blazer is a type of clothing. I'm moving it to Blazar. There is no way a set will be named Cosmo Jacket. MadRest 14:25, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Suit yourself, it's not that you've already been in trouble because of naming stuff...--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 14:27, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I've never been in trouble. And just because you didn't know that a blazer is a jacket is no reason to get angry at me. MadRest 14:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

It's wordplay. "Blazar" has been replaced with "Blazer" in reference to the pack's FIRE-theme. Possibly contains more Flaming Star monsters. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 14:55, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Like in fire coat, yeah. I kinda doubt that "Flaming Star" will appear in the fire set. But there's a possibility, A water structure deck then followed by a water support set. This might be one of these cases.--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 14:58, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

How do you know it's using wordplay rather than the actual the word "Blazar"? It uses the same katakana for "Blazar" as "Cosmic Blazar Dragon". -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:05, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Why are you trying so hard to avoid the most logical name? Cosmo signifies it's space-themed. Blazar is also space-themed. Blazer is a jacket. NeoArk has made mistakes before, like with Magic-Power-Induced Explosion. They called it Spell Explosion, completely mistranslating maryoku. If NeoARk is your only reason for wanting it to be Blazer, then it is not enough to support your argument. Give a logical reason why there would be a jacket in this set's name. It is not FIRE-themed. It is space-themed. It meaning fire coat has 13% probability of happening. MadRest 15:33, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Blazer has more meanings than just a type of jacket. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 23:57, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Even so, it being Blazar is innumerable times more likely. You might've had an argument if the first word wasn't Cosmo. What more proof is there? Cosmo is a manipulated from of cosmos, so the chance of the other word being space-themed is very high. And I trust Shriek more than NeoArkadia. They make a lot of mistakes. MadRest 01:26, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I trust Neo more myself, since I've actually talked to him and he works together with other translators, but that's neither here nor there. I wasn't making an argument for a particular translation, I was merely pointing out that your assertion that a blazer is a type of jacket isn't the whole picture. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:34, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I agreed with Dino - It's not like we have "Stardust Dragon" to be a cloud of star - "Stardust" name is just his effect and that is his way. Same for Blazar/Blazer - I don't believed that it's a coat till this discussion. I naturally see it as attack person, or just a person that control fire. Again, it is the multiple purposes. --iFredCat 02:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Stardust has nothing to do with this. Blazar also has nothing to do with fire. People just hear blaze and assume it's FIRE-themed. MadRest 12:10, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I know, I only point about how different the word meaning on those cards. Blazar is not just mean for jacket but also fire-theme. But again, neither define matched the pack's requirement. --iFredCat 12:18, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't want to be offensive or anything... But why can't everybody wait for the actually thing? Now, throwing names and seeing which word is related to what may have no point at moment... Blazar has a space theme, blazer has both fire and clothes theme, so what? It is kinda useless with no pic of the pack. Just hold on until a scan or something else appears. --Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 12:54, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

I know i said we should wait for a pic, but it's just to warn you guys that the name is "Blazer". Sources: [1] and [2]. And Flaming Star is talked almost in the end of the first comment. "【炎星】"--Falling Stars and Laggia Will rebirth(Talk) 17:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

• I hate this "Let's wait for the image to be released!" mentality. What do you expect us to do, wait weeks for an image while we leave potentially false information on the Wiki? This argument was brought up in the ZW - Lion Arms situation too, and I think it's an awful stance. Currently, the known tidbits of information that we have are a) Blazar and Cosmo are linked by the space theme and b) "ブレイザー" has been translated before as "Blazar" in the name "Cosmic Blazar Dragon". The idea of "blazer" only comes from people assuming that this set will be FIRE-themed, which we have no evidence to support at all. (Please don't bring up that Flaming Star crap.) All in all, based on the evidence we currently have, we should leave it as Cosmo Blazar.--YamiWheeler (talk • contribs) 17:31, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just based on what's been said here, I'd go with "Blazar" too. It's connotation makes a lot more sense. It's what people would expect unless proven otherwise. The "Blazer" wordplay is very obscure. If you saw the katakana "レイク" next to a picture of a lake, the logical assumption is that it means "lake". You wouldn't start saying with total certainty that it means "rake", in reference to the grass in the picture, without proof.

I'm not outruling, "Cosmo Blazer". I just don't think it's been proven in any of the above comments. You've just said it's wordplay. You haven't given any evidence that it is.

That said, nearly every Japanese site seems to be using the word "Blazer", while "Blazar" is mostly used on English sites. And the Japanese sites all seem to be quoting some announcement. Does anyone know what the actual original source of this set information is? Where did the people who first posted it online get the information? -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:18, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

You guys are going way too mad over something so simple. We don't yet have the set's logo, so the name of the set is currently up to each individual translator's interpretation of the Japanese, which is 'Kozumo Bureizaa'. I went with 'Blazar' on Shriek's site because 'cosmo' is a space word, and 'blazar' is a space word. Also, it's spelt the same way as in the name of Cosmic Blazar Dragon ('Kozumikku Bureizaa Doragon'). I understand where 'blazer' is coming from - an extension of the word 'blaze', as the Flare Star monsters showing up between sets and the fact that this will be the red set has led a lot of people to assume that it will focus on FIRE monsters. This train of thought makes sense, but is just as circumstantial and unconfirmed as mine. Arguing over the set's name is pointless, as in a few short weeks the logo will be revealed and the spelling will be set in stone. Until then, chill dudes. Chill.

@ Deltaneos: The source of the information is the same source as pretty much every release ever - a shop listing.

Good day sirs. DanieruLynx (talk • contribs) 03:12, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Soooo... Any idea what this "new concept" is?

"Blazer" confirmed. here. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 14:22, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Heraldic Beast Unicorn

I just saw Heraldic Beast Unicorn at the bottom of the list, but then checked the references and I see nothing. Did I miss something? If you so can somebody please redirect me to an "updated" card list of sorts? --BGMaxie (talk • contribs) 15:52, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

It was mentioned here. You'll need to make an account to read it, though. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 16:04, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Haze Beasts and Mermails

Just thought I should mention the Haze Beasts' and some of the Mermails' set numbers, since I can't edit the list. JP028: Haze Beast Cerberus JP029: Haze Beast Gryphus JP030: Haze Beast Sphinx JP031: Haze Beast Peryton JP032: Mermail Abyssdine JP033: Mermail Abyssnoozu light.of.no.light - I'm a semi-neurotic teenage girl of action! 04:29, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Blackwing

So the blackwing at the end of the english TCG is going to be that synchro monster crow used in the manga right.--Ovidkid (talk • contribs) 20:05, January 8, 2013 (UTC) no, unless im thinking of a different one, that will be a 5ds manga promoDreadKaiser (talk • contribs) 05:17, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Concerns with article.

There are a bunch of changes to the rarities but I have yet to see any proof for them. The card proxies aren't enough info to base assumptions on. Where is the proof that Diamond Dire Wolf, Spellbook of the Master, Noble Knight Medraut, and even Bonfire Colossus are secret? Assuming that Konami will make these Secret Rare without a hint of evidence is a little childish (Silver Text in OP does not always mean Secret Rare). Konami has surprised us many times in the past. Making predictions is rather pointless. Wait until sneak peek before making these changes.(Diclonus (talk • contribs) 01:31, January 15, 2013 (UTC))

Of course, just let them be until the cards become publish then we can fixing whatever we see. --iFredCat 01:40, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

- I just got pictures and proof from a friend of mine that lives in Germany (which gets their cards almost a week earlier than the USA). He gave me as many cards and he could remember off the top of his head. I added them to the set list page with rarities. The only one he couldn't remember was Orbital 7. When I know, I'll change it.Generalpdw (talk • contribs) 21:30, January 15, 2013 (UTC)