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Page name[edit]

Should this be renamed "Seto"? None of the other priests or priestess include "Priest/Priestess" is in their page name. I don't think it's worth making an exception to the naming standard just because the name can refer to another character. I think we should do one of the following:

  • Call this page "Seto (Priest)".
  • Call this page "Seto" and include a note a the top pointing to the "Seto Kaiba" page.
  • Rename all the other priests' pages to include their titles. i.e "Priest Shada", "Priestess Isis" etc.

-- Deltaneos (talk) 14:41, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think Seto should remain disambiguation page. I also don't like parenthesis when there's suitable page name that can used that does not have them. I would say we should move the other pages to include titles. We do that for some other pages, particularly when only a first name or surname, but not both, is known - Chancellor Sheppard, for example. Cheesedude 15:24, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
Two more similiar pages are Thief King Bakura and Pharaoh Atem. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean by Bandit King Bakura? That's what he's called, no doubt. And Pharaoh Atem, well I'm assuming that because Yami Yugi may also be referred to as Atem, I guess that would be referring to the time when he was Pharaoh. Scheepybird (talkcontribs) 22:31, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Tragoedia[edit]

The Priests who dealt with Trag werent Seto and Karim. they were their predecessors. the outfits are slightly different, and although hard to see, Ahkenaten is much younger, and it was directly mentioned that that event happene a year after the Kul ELna Massacre.--63.232.2.83 (talk) 01:35, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Very good point. I've edited it. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 01:48, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Seto or Set?[edit]

I'm not saying his character was based on the Set that killed Osiris, but Set is an Egyptian name. —This unsigned comment was made by 67.171.20.13 (talkcontribs) 08:09, August 18, 2012‎ (UTC)

Seto Kaiba is named after the deity Set and Seto is based on Seto Kaiba, so by extension, he's named after the deity too, well in terms in character creation. But Set/Seto, Isis/Ishizu, Malik/Marik/Maric, Atem/Atemu; they're all correct in some manner. It just depends on which convention you follow; Egyptian naming, direct Japanese romanisations or translations that have been used officially. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:31, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Discrepancies with Reigns[edit]

How did Atem and Seto live the exact same time yet rule 2000 years apart? --KiumaruHamachi (talkcontribs) 09:10, February 9, 2015 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

In the Japanese anime, the Ancient Egyptian events are said to have taken place 3000 years prior to the present day events. This was changed to 5000 in the English dub. One infobox was going by the Japanese anime, while the other was going by the English anime. They should both be give the Japanese date, or the Japanese date, with the dub difference in brackets afterwards. -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:34, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Alliance[edit]

Why is it that during Kaiba and Yami's Duel, when they saw the vision of Seto, in the anime, he said that he had no allegiance to Atem nor Zorc. I'm well aware that Seto being on his own was a scrapped idea, but when he said that, he was being possessed by Akhenaden, who was allied with Zorc at the time. Scheepybird (talkcontribs) 00:57, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Eh? Because at the time, the idea wasn't scrapped. Seto and Atem's relationship was meant to mirror Kaiba and Yugi's more closely before content got shortened. Sanokal K-T (talkcontribs) 01:18, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

I'm well aware that it wasn't scrapped at the time, I'm saying that Aknadin said he didn't have any allegiance to Zorc or Atem, and he was with Zorc. Scheepybird (talkcontribs) 01:20, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Refresh my memory, does Seto say that when it happens in the anime, or just in the flashback? Sanokal K-T (talkcontribs) 01:24, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Flashback. Scheepybird (talkcontribs) 01:25, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

My point still stands. It was planned originally for Seto to rebel on his own, and not be possessed by Aknadin. I don't know whether that episode of the anime aired before the changes were made in the manga's planning, but it's also possible that the anime staff stuffed up. Sanokal K-T (talkcontribs) 01:28, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Rename[edit]

I think that this article should be renamed to Seto, mainly because the term "Priest" isn't used in his English language anime name. If Priest Seto gets renamed, I think that there should be a disambiguation page called Seto (disambiguation). NC Duelist (talkcontribs) 20:16, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Deltaneos' points are valid points. And it will make it in congruence with other stuff. Though if I were to search for this character, I would probably search for "Priest Seto", but leaving a redirect behind will solve that, so I have no objections. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 14:45, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

I would expect to get Kaiba's article if I typed Seto in to the search. That may just be a byproduct of my being on the wiki though, since I basically have uninteintionally memorized the full names of nearly every character at this point. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:37, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
Is there an alternate title you would rather use, like "Seto (Sacred Guardian)" or would you rather it stay at "Priest Seto"? "Sacred Guardian" is the term used in the dub instead of "Priest". -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:22, July 3, 2016 (UTC)
I'm not attached to current article name in any way. I believe "Priest Seto" is consistent with some of the very early video games though. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:15, July 3, 2016 (UTC)
I think he only appears in two video games.
  • In Dark Duel Stories/Tri-Holy God Advent, he's called "P.Seto" in the English version. I'm pretty sure the "P." stands for "Priest", given he calls himself a high priest. In the Japanese version, he's just called "Seto".
  • In Forbidden Memories, he's just called "Seto". In the English version, the term "Mage" is used instead of "Priest". But he's not referred to as "Mage Seto" and I'm guessing he's not called "Priest Seto" in the Japanese version.
-- Deltaneos (talk) 22:57, July 3, 2016 (UTC)
I suppose I don't support the page move but in the same token I don't actually have any other titles I could point to that would be better. So uh, just ignore me? XD. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 01:02, July 4, 2016 (UTC)
Personally, I prefer "Priest Seto", as it is now. But honestly, since I like stuff to be organized, I think it makes more sense to be moved to "Seto".
I understand your points, Cheesedude, but I guess the majority of people who want to search for Seto Kaiba will type "Kaiba"; very few people would go with "Seto" (but that can be "solved"/pointed with a {{For}}).
So, Deltaneos, my vote goes for the rename. I have nothing against. And since a redirect will be left, even those people accustomed to look for it as "Priest Seto", like me, will still find it with ease. I guess this is the final thing I have to say on this matter, but let's see if more people leave a message here (hope this doesn't end like Bakura's page). Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 01:37, July 4, 2016 (UTC)
Why not move it to Pharaoh Seto, as that is the title he eventually obtains?

--Marnix.princen (talkcontribs) 00:43, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

There's no point in having any title for Seto. Scheepybird (talkcontribs) 20:07, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Seto has a profile in the official Yu-Gi-Oh! site. The profile simply calls him "Seto" and so does "Yu-Gi-Oh! the ultimate trivia book." NC Duelist (talkcontribs) 21:32, December 7, 2016 (UTC)