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Sho vs. Syo[edit]

We don't call Syrus "Syo". I've never seen a Japanese name with "sho" be adapted to "syo" in English. In my opinion "Yusho" should be the name of this article. We can't blindly trust all romajization we see in the anime, if we would, Droite would be called "dolowa". Gauche himself was adapted to both "Goshu" and "Gosyu" (both wrong, but you get the idea). Japanese people are just horrible at romajization. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 19:51, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Move sounds fine to me. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 00:33, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
I guess I'll move it and if anyone disagrees, say why here in the Talk Page. There's actually no reason to leave it "Yusyo" to be honest, if you consider all previous cases we had like this one. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 00:37, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

His ace monster[edit]

File:Yushoace.png

What about creating a page for this monster? It has no name yet but it appears as Yusho's Ace http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Yusho_Sakaki?action=edit&section=2#Yano88 (talkcontribs) 18:55, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

We do not know if it his ace. However, it is his monster. Best to wait for further "clues" about him and the monster. Energy X 18:56, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
What's the point of creating a page for a card which we know literally nothing? We don't even know its name. How would you name it? Creating a page for this monster will add nothing, let's wait until the monster is properly revealed, which will probably happen in the future. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 21:30, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Yusho_Sakaki?action=edit&section=2#

well we do have pages for the likes of Alco and the Closed Eight. A character and a card never mentioned anywhere in the anime... So I dont see anything weird creating a page for this monster since it appears in the opening as well as in the first episode... Also, if you serach "unnamed" in the bar, you'll see a lot of articles of characters and cards that are unnamed ;) Yano88 (talkcontribs) 21:39, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
We have actual information on both Alco and the Closed Eight. We have no information on Yusho's monster. And yes, we have a List of unnamed cards, exactly because there is no point in creating an article for a card that has no name. You can add Yusho's monster to the list if you want, but I personally would wait, since it will much probably be properly revealed in the future. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 21:46, May 22, 2014 (UTC)
Bakura's unnamed card and the fire dragon from the gx opening both have their own articles but... whatever... Yano88 (talkcontribs) 21:49, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

This monster has been shown in Yuya's lunch box and in his clock at his house. Still no page for it? I think that, even if we don't know anything about it, he deserves a page as we know that it was Yusho ace and also Yuya look at this monter with admiration. Yano88 (talkcontribs) 23:25, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

No one is stopping you from making the article. Go ahead. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 02:46, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

yusho is The Dark Duelist[edit]

I think that yusho is The Dark Duelist . Three years prior to Yuya's Duel against Strong Ishijima, Yusho was supposed to Duel Ishijima for the finals of an Action Duel tournament. However, Yusho failed to show up; his whereabouts to this date are still unknown . What do you think ? — This unsigned comment was made by Kingyuya (talkcontribs) 23:42, May 29, 2014‎

Umm well I dont think Yusho in his youth was fisically equal to his son Yuya. Yuzu was sure that the dark duelist was Yuya in disguise... There are several elements to discuss about the dark duelist:
1) he already knew Yuzu and "didnt want her to be hurt anymore",
2) (this is my personal feeling) maybe he knew Sawatari Shingo as well
3) his ace card "Dark Rebellion Xyz Dragon seems to be a counterpart to Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon
4) Yuzu's bracelet reacted with a mysterios light to the presence of the dark duelist
5) He has the power to inflict real damage during the duel.
6) He has a "weird" duel disk as noted by Shingo.
7) He possess a LDS badge and asks Shingo if he is from the "Academia".
8) He uses xyzs which, in the Arc-V universe, are known to be accessible only to top players of LDS.
9) He uses glasses on his forehead (like Yuya and Yusho if Im not mistaken)
10) When he first appeared he was watching Leo Duel school from a distance. so...
...with all these elements I feel to exclude that he is a mysterios brother to Yuya. (Why Yuya would not know of a brother of his?)
- As you said, he can be a reincarnation of a younger Yusho even though I dont think so...
- My opinion so far is that the Dark Duelist IS actually Yuya from the future. He knew Yuzu and didnt want her to be hurt anymore, plus he does not utilize Pendulum cards anymore (maybe those cards were the reason Yuzu was hurt in the first place) and instead uses xyz and gave up on his cheerful persona and gained a new, darker personality. Also he does not duel anymore to entertain but solely to win (he criticized Shingo childish play). Why? Maybe because after Yuzu got hurt (in the alternative future) Yuya entered LDS, became a top player and started using xyz (this would explain why he has a LDS badge).
However he seems to have a grudge against LDS and he seeks revenge against them for unknown reasons... Yano88 (talkcontribs) 06:44, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Yusho's Duel Record[edit]

Because they never actually dueled. It's one thing if Yusho was there and forfeited, but since he wasn't, I just feel it's unnecessary to count it as a loss. --Jackpo21 (talkcontribs) 16:36, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

He lost the duel. The Duel was going to happen. It was counting for that tournament or whatever it was, I can't remember precisely. Yusho didn't show up. Therefore, he lost the Duel. The record is: Yusho lost, becuase he didn't show up for a Duel he should have had. That's how things work in the real world as well. So I think it's worth mentioning it. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 16:39, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Even so, there's a difference between losing and being defeated. The duel records show the outcome of the character's duels, so even if he did technically lose, there was no duel to go on record because they never faced off. --Jackpo21 (talkcontribs) 16:52, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
I understand your point. But, technically, even though no actual Duel occurred, Yusho lost because he didn't show up. He was defeated, but, for all effects, it counts as a loss.
Look at it like this: If he didn't lose, like you are saying, then his opponent didn't win, right? But his opponent actually won the whole tournament because those were the finals and Yusho didn't show up. So, for the record, that Sledgehammer guy won and Yusho lost. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 17:05, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
But that's not the same thing. Yusho being a no-show to his duel doesn't mean a loss should be added to his record. That's like saying Kite's first duel against Yuma ended in a loss by forfeit because he left before it could end. Or how Kalin technically won against Yusei in their first duel, even though it was interrupted. --Jackpo21 (talkcontribs) 17:19, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Usually, when a Duel is interrupted, it's pointed as "Interrupted".
Kite's first Duel with Yuma didn't have a result, hence why it's pointed as "No result". Not because Kite forfeited, but because he had to leave like that (but that's another matter). However, this is not the case, because a tournament was going on and someone had to win and someone had to lose. If you don't show up, you automatically lose and your opponent wins. It's like this in official tournaments of any sports, basically.
But ok, since we can't agree, I'll ask for an admin to decide what to do. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 17:37, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Then how come in the original series, Zigfried and Leon were supposed to duel, Zigfried is disqualified, yet there's no mention of that in either of their duel records? There was no result for Yusho and Strong Ishijima's duel either because they never had a chance to duel. You just keep repeating the same thing about how Yusho loses because he never showed up without giving me a good enough reason other than "that's how it works in the real world". Well this isn't the real world we're talking about here. Yusho was disqualified, but that doesn't mean a loss should be on his duel record since there was no duel, meaning there was no outcome to place on his record. --Jackpo21 (talkcontribs) 17:48, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't remember that much of the second series, so I can't talk about it.
I'm just saying that I think it's important to note that Yusho, by not showing up, lost, making Sledgehammer the champion (because it counts as a win for Sledgehammer).
I also don't remember Gong and Yusho dueled. Though, if an official Duel was about to start and they didn't have the chance to duel, and, because of that, one earned some right (like advancing to the next tournament step or something), I think it might be worth pointing out. If it was just some fun Duel that never started, it doesn't matter, because it never happened.
Well, I've explained my reasons. If they are not enough for you, well then, I have nothing more to add.
And Yusho was disqualified. It's loss by default. But let's wait for more users' opinions on this. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 18:29, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
That Duel not being on Zigfried's and Leon's records is a good point. We should either add them to those pages or remove the instances involving Yusho (as well as Hokuto and Michio's duel). I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, but there may be other affected pages.
I think I fall more on the side of removing them altogether. I don't really see the reason to list them when they didn't happen. The prose can of course go into it, though. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 19:10, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks!
Jackpo21, feel free to revert me. Becasita Pendulum (talkcontribs) 19:16, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
I'm just glad to finally put this behind us. --Jackpo21 (talkcontribs) 19:55, May 17, 2016 (UTC)