User:Becasita/SubPages/TalkPage/Archives/2017/May

Images

I re uploaded the pictures as png. Bdun4 (talk • contribs) 20:58, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

"Super Quant" page

Hey, this ThoththeAtlantean. I'm having a little trouble editing of the pages which is Super Quant I been trying to make it sense that one of the cards is a pendulum monster which is Dragodies, the Empowered Warrior. But I did fix the other parts of the recommended cards on the page but the monsters one so I need help to have that fixed up and I will appreciate it very much.

ThoththeAtlantean (talk • contribs) 20:10, May 6, 2017 (UTC)ThoththeAtlanteanThoththeAtlantean (talk • contribs) 20:10, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. To fix it, you just had to do this. You just had to place "Dragodies, the Empowered Warrior" under the pendulum monsters group. You almost did well the first time, but casing is import with templates; you did Pendulum Monsters, but it should have been all lower cased, because that's the parameter name, not an header or something like that. More documentation and how-to-use can be read at {{Decklist}}. Any questions, fell free to ask. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:35, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Set lists

Salut, Becasita. Some time ago, you deleted the Set Card List pages for the Italian and Spanish releases of "Maximum Crisis". Is it okay if the pages are recreated now, or is there still a problem?

TheycallmeBrick (talk • contribs) 11:19, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there, Brick. You can create them, but not with {{Set list}}. You'd have to create them the other way, with the boilerplate. {{Set list}} is still too heavy and I doubt I'll be able to make it cheaper for now. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 15:32, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

But what was this problem? I was adding the Italian names through it as it was deleted and I didn't notice anything wrong. --XBrain130™「Ｘ（エックス）ブレーン１３０」 15:53, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

The list page itself is fine. The problem is that the list is transcluded into the set page. When that happens, the weight of the list is added into the weight of the set page. So, the total weight of the set page is weight(set page) + 6 * weight(TCG lists) + 2 * weight(OCG lists). The weight of the set page has the weight of {{Infobox set}}, added with the weight if {{Set navigation}}, plus {{Set list tabs}}, plus {{Booster Packs}}. Some are heavier than others. Adding them all with the lists, exceeds the software limits, so stuff is not being processed (e.g., the page will appear broken).

Using the boilerplate doesn't increase as much the weight, because it's mostly hardcode, it doesn't use functions and all. You can read more at Wikipedia:Template limits. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:46, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

I see. Look, this is unrelated, but since you fixed the problem with Extra Deck Pendulums, think you can do something for Normal ones, as they do not show up in queries that ask for Normal Monsters? --XBrain130™「Ｘ（エックス）ブレーン１３０」 15:43, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Should be working fine now. Cache may still need to update, so if it's not working as expected, null edit the card pages first.

Didn't update the manga one, because not sure if it's supposed to work the same way.

Please let me know if something is wrong. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 18:13, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Images

Sorry, it's kinda my first time.Pimsan (talk • contribs) 17:36, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

No worries. Everyone has the right to learn. Let me know if you need help with anything. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 18:13, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Okay!Pimsan (talk • contribs) 18:18, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Your page

I have a question for you to answer.

File:ABCDragonBuster-SDKS-EN-UR-1E.png / File:VWXYZDragonCatapultCannon-DP2-EN-R-UE.png

If those to 2 different Fusion monster cards got mixed together what do you think can name that new type of Fusion monster card?

A to Z Dragon Buster Cannon (still) or A to Z Dragon Catapult Buster Cannon?

SuperheroicAlliance317 (talk • contribs) 00:30, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

If I had any opinion, I would have posted on your thread. But since you're asking me personally now, I guess you could call it ABCVWXYZ, since "A-to-Z-Dragon Buster Cannon" already exists, or that second option of yours; seems legit. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:44, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Question

Only for telling something that's true? You might need to re-watch his two episode duel with Jesse (Yubel) Bopdog111 (talk • contribs) 16:54, May 14, 2017 (UTC)Bopdog111

No. As you can see, it's true to you, but not that other fellow you were arguing with. Besides, Cheesedude already said we won't state him as being anti-hero nor villain. It doesn't matter. So just stop. This is a last warning. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 20:12, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Only if she stops. Bopdog111 (talk • contribs) 01:43, May 15, 2017 (UTC)Bopdog111

She? Is this guy for real? I'm half-certain I'm being deliberately misgendered here. Also, I have nothing to do with this anymore. Kore wa shomeidesu. (talk • contribs) 05:00, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

It only matters if you get affected by it. People also have called me "she" and "he". Doesn't matter, really. If they are wrong, you can simply say "I'm a ___". Don't make a big fuss about this, please. And no more discussion about this whole matter. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 09:35, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reply to message

When I tried to update File:SphinxTeleia-TP03-JP-C.png with queue, there was an error with it, so I had to do it manually. I accidentally mistyped png as pngg, which you corrected. The other file I uploaded was able to be updated with queue. I was going to put them both in conjunction with each other, but that error I got with the queue prevented me from doing so (this error never happened before previously). I didn't want to upload File:SphinxTeleia-TF04-JP-VG.png just a few seconds after the first file because it would have been more exactly like the previous incident that got me blocked for a month. I'm sorry I did it like that, but this was due to an error message, not something I was trying to repeat previously that got me blocked.Cardsknower (talk • contribs) 17:17, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Vullet reply

That's ok, sorry for sounding aggressive. Not my intention. I liked my new edit more anyway XD FatSnorlax (talk • contribs) 17:45, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Heads up

Cyber Tutubon is appearing twice in the Cyber Girl navbox. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 23:44, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it. Should be fine now. Not sure what it was. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:00, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yay, you're welcome. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 00:01, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Can a card's rarity and set be mentioned if it's official

Can I add a card's image name to its card gallery if the rarity is official?CFiveHive (talk • contribs) 05:43, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 19:52, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Template

Would it be alright if I added the interwiki template that had been developed on for linking to Wikipedia? I know you like using the pipe method but this template is more reliable, can be used in places where the pipe method can't, and would cut down the amount of code used for links. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 17:31, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Link, please. Might be too redundant, depends. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 19:52, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Here you go: here Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 21:10, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that. I don't find it very interesting to the point of us using it (I tried to come up with a more versatile one, but not worth it). Seems kinda redundant. Reminds me of the {{Anime}}/{{Manga}} case, to be honest. Which we ended up cutting entirely (discussion). Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:09, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

So what was the issue? Maybe I can help with it. And by the way, the span tags hide the namespace when you hover over the link so I'd suggest keeping them.

I'd also suggest using abbreviations like just "ns" for the template itself as cut down the code Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 01:27, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

There's no issue. I simply don't find it useful. Basically, the same as the templates being discussed on that forum thread I pointed. It's not complicated to hard link it.

You can bring it here, if you really want, but I'm neutral towards it. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 11:44, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Would you mind if I experiment with the existing one? I'd like to understand how it even works cause I could not replicate it when on my own wiki because of the following issues:

1. The switch used the default setting when I used wikipedia as {{{1}}}
2. I wanted to have the hoverbox not display "w:c:{{{1}}}:" when I place my cursor over the link.

Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 01:30, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I understand to which one you're referring to.

You mean on my experiment? Well, if you use {{User:Becasita/SubPages/Templates/InterWikiLink|wikipedia|Fair use}}, should point to wikipedia:Fair use and display that on hover. Example: Fair use. So it doesn't use the #default of the #switch, in that case. I can make the hover box to only display the page name, but I think it's more useful if it displays the host wiki (I could cut "w:c", though).

You can try it elsewhere, yeah, but be sure to link to where it came from, please. It's a good practice. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 00:44, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

When I tried to replicate the template's code, I had links going to w:c:wikipedia:lepidopterist instead, any idea why it would do that? Here was where I had been tesing: test

I'll credit you once I know it works exactly as it does here, sound good? Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 15:17, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

That's because you're using the default for all instances. I've fixed it for you.

It's not about crediting me. When you bring some stuff from a place to another, you should always state you're bringing it from somewhere else and link to it (preferably in the edit summary when creating the page).

Anyway, yours should be working now. Though you might want more stuff it's not doing, but just let me know. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:15, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I noted that your template was the basis for the new version. Thank you for the help. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 22:01, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

No probs. If you need anything, poke me. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:04, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Anyway, how would you make the hoverbox only display the page name? I don't see much point to including "wikipedia" in it when the full url is always displayed at the bottom of the window already. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 22:07, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, try this. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 23:04, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

That worked, thanks. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 23:09, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Had to fix a slight coding mistake regarding the span tag, hope you don't mind. Chimera-gui (talk • contribs) 04:38, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Nah, of course not. Thanks. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 11:26, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Set card list problem

For Set Card Lists:Duelist Pack: Dimensional Guardians (TCG-EN), the code shows some rarities in abbreviations you while others use full words. Which should it be?CircuitMario (talk • contribs) 12:21, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Master Guide 5 topic

Hey,

Since we got this, what about to create a "Master guide 5 storyline" ?

Cards like Deneb, Infernoid Decatron or Zefraath are linking to an external link, or inexistant page.

Yes42 (talk • contribs) 17:14, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there. Yep, it needs to be created. Preferably similar to the previous ones. It seems we're missing a Master Guide 4 card storylines too. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 17:35, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Well, i noticed that the images used were from Konami's official blog or a video game. In the case of MG5 (Tellarknights, Shaddolls, Qliphorts,....), the only way to find the art is to crop manually the pics, or to pick them from the internet. I found a Tumblr about arts of Yugioh, that may be really useful. The thing is : am I in right to pick the images and post it here, even if i put the source in the description file ?

I sent a message to the Tumblr author, and hopefully he'll reply. --Yes42 (talk • contribs) 19:17, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

My preference is to not use fan-made images or the least possible adulterated. In the sense of I'd prefer using card images for them, instead of cropped card art images. I also would prefer it to be like this on archetype/series pages, before you mention it. However, some admins back me up, others differ. Will ask them and get back at you. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 19:26, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Well, just crop the images for now, yes. Or fetch them from somewhere else, but the simplest (less adulterated) they are, the better. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:22, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

I tried to attempt to do so (underconsturction), but I encoutered some problems :

• First, i feel like there is too much text. Organize the thread as you suggested seems really difficult. A lot of archetypes are interacting together, and the thread cannot be done whithout lost the sense of the story. I don't really see how you want to organize it... More images and descriptions with less text, like this?
• Another thing is that I used up the cropped images, but i didn't put any licensing on their files (since i picked them from Google...). I have no right to do this, even if it is to illustrate the Wikia ; i don't have the permission of the author. Should i include a source link in their description file ?

Hopefully i'm clear - Thanks!!--Yes42 (talk • contribs) 19:38, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, just organize it as you feel better about it. People will give you a hand here and there. It's good to try to keep it in a similar manner as the previous ones, but just adapt it; feel free.

As for the images, well, they come from the cards' arts. So even if people cropped them without properly license them... At least enter {{Fair use}}, I'd say. The authors aren't the ones that cropped them.

I've fixed a few things, but it's a good start. If you prefer, you can create a sub-page for you so you can test stuff there, as you wish. When it's ready, move it to the main namespace.

Keep it up! Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:10, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

If I may, Yes, (figured I'd just add to the conversation rather than creating a new one) the lore of "Qliphort Scout" may need to be taken into account regarding the Systems.

Booting in Replica Mode…
An error has occurred when executing C:\sophia\zefra.exe
Unknown publisher.
Allow C:\tierra\qliphort.exe ? <Y/N>…[Y]
Booting in Autonomy Mode…

It does seem to imply that the localized System names would be Zefra and Qliphort rather than Sefiroth and Qliphoth (or whatever the exact spellings for the Japaense versions are). Sanokal K-T (talk • contribs) 20:58, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, sorry i didn't saw your message. Well, it seems good for me to add it in its section, but let's first discuss it with admins/discuss page.

Becasita, I've finished and I think your inspection will be necessary. I added all the arts, but I cannot find some of them (mostly at the end). Also, some other cards were'nt listed in the source topic, but I guess can find a place : Shaddoll Hound (counterpart of Satellarknight Sirius), and Zefra Path. Moreover, some sections aren't necessary, such as "User:Yes42/Sandbox#Warriors of Light, "Yang Zings" Materialized by "Sombre", "The Eight Channelled Dragunity" or "The Ten Chosen Zefra". What do you think about it ?

If there is something wrong with the artworks, the display or anything else, please tell me.--Yes42 (talk • contribs) 19:47, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

You can feel free to follow any suggestions people give you. Likewise, Sanokal, you can also add it yourself there, if you want.

At a first glance, seems nice. There are some section headers centered, when others are aligned at the left. Not sure if intentional. One other thing is that you should start with using level 2 section headers (e.g., ==Header==), instead of level 3 ones (e.g., ===Header===), but that's not a big deal.

I confess I haven't read the full story yet, so I can't comment much on the displayed images and what to show. Although I think it would be better to confine ourselves to what's shown by the official stuff. So if they don't feature an image, we shouldn't too, I'd say. For the "Warriors of Light" section, well, I don't see a problem with it. Pretty vague, but it exists.

As for the card images you're using, you can simply crop them and upload their art. Erdvilla uploaded some superb quality images, mostly Korean, so maybe you can find there top notch quality images to crop the artwork from (like ZefraProvidence-MACR-KR-R-1E.png). Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:19, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Fine, I'll replace it with h2. It was intentional for the un/centered headers, but I'll align them to the left. Thanks for all the other points, I took note of it.

Some sections are displaying in a weird form, since I added the "full-desc" parameters ; like "Battle to the Death at Void". Should I remove it ?--Yes42 (talk • contribs) 22:19, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

You don't need to replace all with h2. But increasing one level on each header might be good, since it also increases the congruence with the other card storylines pages (they use h2 as the highest header, on the editable content). As for the alignment, you don't need to just use one; you just need to have a sturdy criteria. For instance, you could make the left ones h2 and the centered ones h3. I think that's the idea you wanted to pass, no? Like, the centered ones being sub-sections of the lefted ones. At least, it seems that the centered ones are at a lower level than the lefted ones. So yeah, that'd be my suggestion.

Yeah, the fulldesc parameter makes them look unaligned. I've tried to make it look better, at that section. If you don't like them, just remove the parameter, then. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:58, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, that's better with the parameter. I corrected some things, and the thread seems finished in my opinion. Should I put it to the main space, or do you see other things to replace ?--Yes42 (talk • contribs) 11:41, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yep, I suppose you can place it in the main space. People will bump into it and correct/suggest stuff, if needed. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 13:10, June 11, 2017 (UTC)