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== Silently Admin ==

I have not noticing you being... inactive for a while... Are you sure you're not sick or something? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 04:00, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

:I'm kinda buzy with college and exams the past weeks but I'm still visiting Wikia every day and watching for any kind of vandalism in the Ruling Pages and so, don't worry. ;) [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:34, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

::Ah, that explained your absent... at least you not "dead" for sure. So good luck finish the college! --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 13:00, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

== Difference between one Special Summon and one can't Special Summon ==

Sorry to interrupting your study; but I would like to know if it's possible to Special Summon "Blackwing" (DARK Attribute) through "Swallow's Nest" while the owner controlled "Barrier Statue of Windstorm" (WIND Attribute)?

As of before, if I recalled correctly, monsters that tried to tribute the target monster can't be Special Summon if their effect prevented the Special Summon from occurred. For example; I tried to tributed "Archlord Kristya" and one other monster on the opponent's side of the field with the effect of "Lava Golem". That is accord to be incorrect method to playing out. It would be same reason if I tried to tribute two random monsters while the opponent controlled a face-up "Mask of Restrict".

So is that possible or impossible to Special Summon "Blackwing - Boar the Spear" from the Deck via the effect of "Swallow's Nest" while target "Barrier Statue of Windstorm"? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 23:53, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

:If you do not have any WIND Winged-Beast Type monsters in your Deck you cannot activate "[[Swallow's Nest]]". If you have a WIND Winged-Beast Type monster in your Deck then you can activate "[[Swallow's Nest]]", tribute "[[Barrier Statue of the Stormwinds]]", and then when it resolves, since "[[Barrier Statue of the Stormwinds]]" is no longer face-up on the fiels it's effect does not apply, so you can Special Summon a non-WIND Winged-Beast Type monster like a "[[Blackwing]]" monster. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 11:44, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

::I see... seemed like my argument against other user was right after all, "revealing the deck to prove it" is required, yes? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 13:00, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

:::There is no need to reveal the whole Deck but just the WIND Winged-Beast monster only. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 20:10, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

== Shock Ruler vs. Karakuri Komachi mdl 224 "Ninishi" ==

Is that true, can "Number 16: Shock Ruler" negating the entire effect of "Ninishi", included it continuous effect? (The one that Normal Summon other Karakuri from the hand) --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 18:21, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind that question - I had to read the Ruling Article; Shock Master can't negate the Continuous Effect since it don't do the chain activation. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 18:34, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

==Special Summoned face-down = Special Summoned face-up?==
Just a ruling question: Is there any source/ruling where it is claimed that a monster Special Summoned in face-down Defense Position (i.e. "[[The Shallow Grave]]") is still treated as being Special Summoned after being flipped face-up? This was with regards to "[[Slifer the Sky Dragon]]" being Special Summoned, then Flip Summoned, and being destroyed during that End Phase. Someone claimed that the ruling of "[[Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo]]" (Monsters that are Special Summoned face-down, or flipped face-down after being Special Summoned, will be destroyed by "Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo's" second effect) was their source. However, I'm not sure, since it doesn't account for the Set Special Summoned monster being Flip Summoned. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:08, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
:Derp, that will become "Special Set". --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 22:49, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

== Remove Trap wording ==

Is it "Target" or is it "Choose" in PSCT adaption? Konami is just being derp sometimes.

P.S. - Why Konami just decided to kept "Special Summon" in "[[Polymerization]]" in the Legendary Collection 3 edition? Is it not "Fusion Summon" by now? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 15:34, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

:"[[Remove Trap]]" [[target]]s.
:The whole "''Send, from your hand or your side of the field to the Graveyard, the Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a Fusion Monster Card, then Special Summon that monster from your Extra Deck.''" is a [[Fusion Summon]]. It could say just: "''Perform a Fusion Summon''"
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:50, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

::Interesting, thank you.
::Still, I would just writing the "Fusion Summon" in the place of "Special Summon" - otherwise, it just revoked up the E-HERO fusion summon in OCG/TCG if we followed that rules restrict. As Elemental HERO Fusion monsters are required to "Fusion Summon" and cannot be '''Special''' Summon by other ways. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 22:03, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

== Suppressor Dragon vs. Super Rejuvenation ==

Is that possible to activate the effect of "Super Rejuvenation" if I discarded "Burner" with other Dragon from hand to summon "Blaster", to draw 2 cards or not? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 01:38, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

:Who's exactly "Burner" and "Blaster"? Can you be more specific please? [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:55, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

::"[[Burner, Elemental Dragon of Calderas]]" and "[[Blaster, Elemental Dragon of Calderas]]" - I heard that the former one was used themselves as Cost to discarding in order to Special Summon the latter from the Deck and one user said that it's not counted for the effect of "[[Super Rejuvenation]]". --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 11:00, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

:::It is possible to draw cards with "[[Super Rejuvenation]]" is you discard Dragon-Type monsters as a cost in order to active a card's effect. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 20:06, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

== Forbidden Lance vs. Fiendish Chain ==

[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] and I were in the argument that "[[Forbidden Lance]]" making "[[Fiendish Chain]]" lost the target. Like when I had a face-up "[[Evolzar Dolkka]]" and he had "Fiendish Chain" set on his field in the previous turn, and it's my turn - he activated "Fiendish Chain" to target on my Dolkka, make it unable to activate or attack. So now I have "Forbidden Lance" in my hand at this turn: I activate it and target on "Evolzar Dolkka", would it be forever no longer under the affect of "Fiendish Chain"? Or only it lasted a turn? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 03:54, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

:"[[Fiendish Chain]]" will continue to target the selected monster even if you activate "[[Forbidden Lance]]" on it. It will have no effect on it though which means the monster will be able to attack or activate its effects. If in that turn the monster is destroyed, "[[Fiendish Chain]]" is also destroyed. During the End Phase when "[[Forbidden Lance]]"'s effect expires, "[[Fiendish Chain]]"'s effect is reapplied and the monster is once again unable to attack or activate its effects. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:13, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

::Interesting... Seemed like UltimateKuriboh was right about this one - gotta add this on my Ruling Article. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 13:34, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

== "Calming Magic" ==

Sorry, I just gave the Japanese lore of "[[Calming Magic]]" a quick Google Translate and it doesn't mention "Set" (as it translates accurately for other Japanese card lores that mention "Set"). In this case, "Reverse" translates to "Flip", as the Japanese call Flip Summons "Reverse Summons." --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 13:58, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

UltimateKuriboh's right for this one - "Calming Magic" never mention "Set", just "Summon". --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 15:11, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

:"[[Calming Magic]]"'s OCG text mentions "''Normal Summon''" 「通常召喚」 which is the same as the TCG term "''Normal Summon or Set''".
:If an OCG text mentions only "''Summon''" 「召喚」, then it is translated as "''Normal Summon''" in the TCG (without Set). As in "[[Card of Sacrifice]]"'s OCG text.
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:39, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

: I see you both forgot about [[Forum:Scapegoat errata/rulings?]].
: <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">-[[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]]- ([[User talk:Falzar FZ#top|talk page]]|[[User:Falzar FZ/Tips and Guides|useful stuff]])</span> 20:35, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

::I'll just move on from this and accept it as is. The difference here was how I translated the '''Japanese lore''' of "Calming Magic". The issue I had with "Scapegoat" was the English errata changes. So yeah, I hope no one else gets confused by this in the future. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 20:52, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

::: I'm referring to the "[[Forum:Zombie World VS Tribute Set|translation problems]]" link on that page, as well as my last post there.
::: <span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva">-[[User:Falzar FZ|Falzar FZ]]- ([[User talk:Falzar FZ#top|talk page]]|[[User:Falzar FZ/Tips and Guides|useful stuff]])</span> 21:00, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

::::The TCG term "''Tribute Summon''" is the same as the OCG term "''Advance/Sacrifice Summon''" 「のアドバンス召喚」 and refers to both "Tribute Summon" and "Tribute Set". The old TCG text of "Scapegoat" was mentioning seperately "''(or Set)''" but it was just a reminder. Only the "''Tribute Summon''" was enough (and it is fixed in the PSCT errata). You can see the same in "[[Ojama Trio]]"'s text which it prevents both "Tribute Summons" and "Tribute Sets" of the Tokens, in both _CGs, and it don't have the reminder. There was some confusion with players when "[[Zombie World]]" was released, because it didn't had the "''(or Set)''" in its text, and people didn't knew if it prevented Tribute Sets or not. Normally it should prevents Tribute Sets as well, like in the OCG. Again, it doesn't need the "''(or Set)''" reminder.

::::The translation issues are in the "Normal Summon" and "Normal Set" terms which, as I mentioned above, are different worded in each _CG. Becides that I don't see any problem with this situation. Since "[[Calming Magic]]"'s OCG text mentions "''Normal Summon''" and not just "''Summon''" it should prevent "Normal Sets" as well (in the OCG). The "''(but you can Set)''" in "[[Scapegoat]]"'s PSCT errata is also a reminder imo, and it is just placed there to help players understand how the card works. There were problems with players not understanding how "Scapegoat" works in the past as well. The previous lore was correct too "''you cannot Summon other monsters this turn''".

::::[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 00:12, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

:::::Off-topic, the word "refer" is always have 1 F's, not two F's. So be sure to practice get it down. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 00:38, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

::::::Sorry, typo! I don't have an auto-correction in my browser and I can't see the mistakes. Fixed! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:09, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
:::::::No worry, at least you got a buddy to watch your back. You're not completely perfectionist right there. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 01:40, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

== Geargiarmor "Once per turn:" effect ==

Hey, does this card's effect approve twice in a same turn if I played "Book of Taiyou" or something that flipping him to face-up (by set it to face-down)? Goldy seemed disagreed to that theory. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 01:40, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

:The first effect of "[[Geargiarmor]]" can only be activated once in the same turn. Flipping the monster face-down again does not reset the "once per turn" restriction of the Flip-Flop monsters. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:00, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

::That's what I thought - it has same ruling as "[[Stealth Bird]]" and Goldy tried it on WC11 game, only to discovered that I was right. Thank you. And also, for "Flip-ing", it has 2 P's when adding -ing to the end, and I fixed it for you. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 15:14, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

== Effect Veiler vs. Continuous Effect Monster on the field ==

Is that true "Effect Veiler" can target the Effect Monster with a Continuous Effect, such as "Star Drawing"? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 18:01, March 9, 2013 (UTC)
:Of course it can, since it is an Effect Monster. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 08:09, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

== Unsure... ==

I'm note sure if [http://goo.gl/Y6xYK this] was appropriately moved... --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 03:06, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

== Different rulings? ==
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:ATEMVEGETA?action=edit&oldid=2402067#
[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Mind_Crush?curid=42797&diff=2402035&oldid=2151235 Is this acceptable rulings to posting in?] --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 20:45, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

I posted that only after I realized a similar thing was deleted just [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Mind_Crush?diff=prev&oldid=2151235 one revision] ago. Regardless of whether or not these would not be considered a ruling in your book or just "a clarification of a mechanic", these definitely would make finding answers much easier and put debates among players to an end. This is as much of a clarification of a mechanic as is the line stating "If the maximum legally allowed number of copies of the declared card cannot be verified as public knowledge, you may ask your opponent to verify their hand", an addition [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Rulings%3AMind_Crush&diff=1722550&oldid=1616164 you yourself made]. Why not keep the edit when it would do more good than harm? [[User:Dpsklsd|Dpsklsd]] ([[User talk:Dpsklsd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dpsklsd|contribs]]) 22:51, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

:Yes, that Ruling can stay for 2 reasons. First, even if it is not actual a Ruling it makes another older Ruling invalid, and second, as Dpsklsd said it will help the players understand how the card works. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 09:31, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

::I was just to be sure so I don't have to be paranoid on Dpsklsd or anything. Thank you for responding. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 11:41, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Since the [[PSCT]] of "[[Scrap-Iron Scarecrow]]" contradicts the OCG ruling (of whether or not it is Set face-down again if "Scarecrow" doesn't negate an attack), should there be a notice placed on the page noting this? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 17:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, a contradict is necessary. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:58, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

== "Splendid Rose" ==

What kind of effect is the 2nd effect of "[[Splendid Rose]]" (ignoring what the wiki has on there now)? Also, if "Splendid Rose" uses her 2nd effect, does she have to attack once again immediately? If you're iffy on this, would you mind e-mailing the judge ruling program? Thanks. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 19:11, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

:Base on my experience - ''If this card attacks, during the same Battle Phase you can remove from play 1 Plant-Type monster in your Graveyard to halve the ATK of this card (until the End Phase) and attack once again.''
:PSCT Version: ''If this card has attack successful during the same Battle Phase: You can banish 1 Plant-Type monster in your Graveyard; halve this card's ATK until the End Phase to attempt the second attack.''
:That's what I can figuring out base on Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning's effect text. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 19:14, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

::The second effect is a Quick Effect. If "[[Splendid Rose]]" has attacked this turn, you can activate the second effect during the same Battle Phase. When the effect resolves "[[Splendid Rose]]"'s ATK is halved. During the same turn, any time you want you can declare a second attack with "[[Splendid Rose]]". It doesn't have to be the next attack after you activate the effect. You can activate the effect, attack with another monster and then with "[[Splendid Rose]]". I will ask the question to the Judge Forum for an official answer. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 21:49, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

:::Any response yet? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 22:22, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

::::Nothing yet. But don't expect an answer soon. They <s>raraly</s> rarely answer to questions, and sometimes they never do. I made a lot of questions there that still are unanswered! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:57, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

:::: *whisper* --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 14:08, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

== New Conflict ==

[http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings_talk:Starlight_Road#Official_ruling? Thought I would let you know], at least you had it in your watch list. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 14:07, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

== Dark Ruler Ha Des ==

Is it necessary to link "Dark Ruler Ha Des" on its ruling page? I was taught not to link card names when the navbox for that card was available at the top of the page, something that occurs in Card Trivia and Card Tips pages quite often. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 05:29, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

==OCG Rulings for Necrovalley==

I found rulings from the Japanese card database that aren't on the rulings page for Necrovalley. Using google translate, I was able to translate the majority of them.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12552&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-10-11
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている時に、「暗黒界の龍神 グラファ」が自身の効果によって墓地から特殊召喚される時に、「神の警告」によってその特殊召喚を無効にできますか？ 
When Solemn Warning responds to Grapha's special summon from the graveyard while Necrovalley is active, will Solemn Warning be negated?
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合でも、「神の警告」によって「暗黒界の龍神 グラファ」の自身の効果による特殊召喚を無効にする事ができます。 
Even if Necrovalley is active, Grapha's special summon may still be negated by Solemn Warning.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12359&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
相手がフィールド魔法カードの「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」を発動している時に、自分がフィールド魔法カードの「マドルチェ・シャトー」を発動した場合、「マドルチェ・シャトー」の『墓地に「マドルチェ」と名のついたモンスターが存在する場合、そのモンスターを全てデッキに戻す』効果は、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果によって無効化されますか？ 
If the opponent has Necrovalley active and I activate Madolche Chateau while Madolche monsters exist in my graveyard, will Necrovalley negate the effect to return those monsters to the deck?
相手が「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」を発動している時に、自分が「マドルチェ・シャトー」を発動した場合、「マドルチェ・シャトー」の効果処理を行う時点では、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果は既に適用されていない状態となるため、「マドルチェ・シャトー」の効果は無効化されず、墓地に存在する「マドルチェ」と名のついたモンスターはデッキに戻します。 
By the time Madolche Chateau resolves, the effects of the opponent's Necrovalley is no longer considered to be in effect. Therefore, the effect of Madolche Chateau to return Madolche monsters back to the deck are not negated.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=11857&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている時に、「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の『手札または自分の墓地から「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」以外のドラゴン族モンスター１体を自分フィールド上に特殊召喚する』効果を発動する事はできますか？
また、「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の効果を発動する事ができる場合において、墓地に存在するドラゴン族モンスターを選択した場合、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果によって無効化されますか？ 
While Necrovalley is active, is it possible to activate the 'Once per turn: You can Special Summon 1 Dragon-Type monster from your hand or Graveyard, except "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon".' effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon? 
If so, would Necrovalley negate the effect if a Dragon monster in the graveyard were chosen?
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合でも、「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の効果を発動する事はできます。
また、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている時に、「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の効果によってドラゴン族モンスターを特殊召喚する場合は、手札からドラゴン族モンスターを特殊召喚しなければなりません。
なお、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている時に「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の効果を発動し、特殊召喚が可能なドラゴン族モンスターが墓地にしか存在しない状況だった場合は、「レッドアイズ・ダークネスメタルドラゴン」の効果は無効化されます。
Even if Necrovalley is active, you will still be able to activate the effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.
Also, while Necrovalley is active, if you wish to special summon a Dragon monster by the effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, you must Special Summon from your hand.
Furthermore, if the only monster that can be Special Summoned is in the graveyard by the time the effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon resolves, the effect will be negated.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12362&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
フィールド上に「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」と「暗闇を吸い込むマジック・ミラー」が存在する時に、フィールド上から墓地へ送られた「クリッター」の効果が発動した場合、「暗闇を吸い込むマジック・ミラー」の効果が適用されるため、墓地で発動した「クリッター」の効果は無効化されます。
また、フィールド上に存在する「黒竜の雛」自身を墓地へ送って効果を発動した場合にも、「暗闇を吸い込むマジック・ミラー」の効果が適用されるため、フィールド上にて発動した「黒竜の雛」の効果は無効化されます。
If both Necrovalley and Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror are active, the effects of both Sangan and Red-Eyes Black Chick will be negated at resolution.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12310&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の生け贄」の効果処理を行う時点で、フィールド魔法カードゾーンに「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」が存在しなくなった場合であっても、「王家の生け贄」の効果は適用されます。 
Royal Tribute will still resolve properly if Necrovalley is not on the field at the time of resolution.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=11925&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」が発動している時に、「甲虫装機 ダンセル」の『自分の手札・墓地から「甲虫装機」と名のついたモンスター１体を装備カード扱いとしてこのカードに装備できる』効果を発動する事はできます。
その際に、手札と墓地に「甲虫装機」と名のつくモンスターが存在する場合、手札から装備しなければいけません。
また、墓地にしか「甲虫装機」と名のつくモンスターが存在しない場合、その効果は無効となります。
なお、効果処理時に墓地にしか「甲虫装機」と名のつくモンスターが存在しない場合、手札の確認を相手に求められた場合には応じる必要があります。
You are able to active the 'Once per turn: You can equip 1 "Inzektor" monster from your hand or Graveyard to this card.' effect of Inzektor Dragonfly while Necrovalley is active. In doing so, if there exists Inzektor monsters in both your hand and graveyard, you must equip from your hand. If there only exists Inzektor monsters in the graveyard, the effect is negated.
Additionally, if at the time of resolution only your graveyard contains Inzektor monsters, your opponent may check your hand to confirm that there are no Inzektor monsters to equip.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12283&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合でも、「マドルチェ・ミィルフィーヤ」等の『このカードが相手によって破壊され墓地へ送られた時、このカードをデッキに戻す』効果は無効化されず、「マドルチェ・ミィルフィーヤ」等はデッキへ戻ります。
The effect of Madolche Mewfeuille to return to the deck when destroyed and sent to the graveyard is not negated while Necrovalley is active.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12159&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合、「聖刻龍－ドラゴンゲイヴ」等の効果によって、墓地に存在する「聖刻」と名のつく通常モンスターを墓地から特殊召喚する事はできません。
したがって、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合、「聖刻龍－ドラゴンゲイヴ」等の効果によって「聖刻」と名のつく通常モンスターを特殊召喚する場合は、手札かデッキからとなります。

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=9670&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
フィールド上に表側表示で存在する「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」や「霊滅術師 カイクウ」の、墓地のカードを除外できない効果が適用されている場合でも、「氷結界の龍 トリシューラ」の効果を発動する事ができます。
しかしながら、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」等の効果によって、墓地に存在するカードを除外する事ができないため、手札・フィールド上の2ヵ所から、それぞれ1枚まで除外します。

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12340&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合でも、「ミラクル・コンタクト」を発動する事はできます。
ただし、墓地から『融合モンスターカードによって決められた融合素材モンスター』を持ち主のデッキに戻す事はできないため、手札やフィールド上に存在するモンスターをデッキへ戻して特殊召喚を行います。
また、効果処理時に手札やフィールド上に存在するモンスターのみで「ミラクル・コンタクト」の処理を行えない場合には、「ミラクル・コンタクト」の効果は無効化されます。
Miracle contact may be activated while Necrovalley is active.
However, since it is not possible to return monsters in the graveyard back to the deck, fusion material monsters must be from the field or hand.
In the case where it is not possible to resolve Miracle Contact with only materials present on the field or hand, the effect of Miracle Contact is negated.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12444&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「エンド・オブ・アヌビス」の『墓地のカードを対象にする、または墓地で効果が発動する魔法・罠・モンスターの効果は全て無効になる』効果は、墓地のカードに効果が及ぶ扱いではないため、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果では無効化されません。
The effect of The End of Anubis does not affect the effects of Necrovalley.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=11361&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている時に「地獄の暴走召喚」を発動した際に、墓地に同名モンスターが存在する場合は、『墓地に効果が及ぶ』効果が無効になるため、「地獄の暴走召喚」の効果そのものが無効化されます。
また、墓地に同名モンスターが存在しない場合は、「地獄の暴走召喚」の効果によってお互いにモンスターを特殊召喚する事ができます。
If Inferno Reckless Summon is activated while Necrovalley is active and any of the monsters to be summoned would be from the graveyard, the entire effect of Inferno Reckless Summon is negated.
If no monsters would be special summoned from the graveyard, then the effect of Inferno Reckles Summon resolves normally.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=11287&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
「ドリル・ウォリアー」の自身を特殊召喚して墓地に存在するカードを手札に加える効果はスタンバイフェイズ時に発動しますが、「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果によって無効化されます。
したがって、「ドリル・ウォリアー」はゲームから除外されたままとなり、墓地のカードを手札に加える事もできません。During the standby phase, if the effect of Drill Warrior is activated while Necrovalley is active, the effect of Drill Warrior will be negated.
Thus, Drill Warrior will remain banished and no card will be added from the graveyard to your hand.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=10812&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2012-07-20
フィールド上に表側表示で存在する「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の効果が適用されている場合であっても、「The supremacy SUN」の自身を墓地から特殊召喚する効果は無効化されません。http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:ATEMVEGETA?action=edit#
また、フィールド上に表側表示で存在する「エンド・オブ・アヌビス」の効果が適用されている場合は、自身を特殊召喚する効果は無効化されます。
The effect of The Sumpremacy Sun to special summon itself from the graveyard is not negated by Necrovalley.
The effect of The Sumpremacy Sun to special summon itself from the graveyard is negated if The End of Anubis is face-up on the field.

http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=12764&keyword=&tag=-1 | 2013-05-02
「王家の眠る谷－ネクロバレー」の適用中には墓地のカードをゲームから除外する事ができない為、「透破抜き」を発動する事はできません。
You cannot activate Debunk when a monster effect in the graveyard is activated while Necrovalley is active.

Could they be added to the rulings page?
[[User:Dpsklsd|Dpsklsd]] ([[User talk:Dpsklsd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dpsklsd|contribs]]) 05:36, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

:Since you've stopped updating the page, shall I fill the rest of the rulings? [[User:Dpsklsd|Dpsklsd]] ([[User talk:Dpsklsd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dpsklsd|contribs]]) 23:38, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

== "Droll & Lock Bird" ==

According to the jp wiki, it's classified as a Quick Effect (and it was recently classified here as a Quick Effect due to some user citing the jp wiki). Would you mind asking the Judge Forum Program about this and get a ruling from them? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 00:28, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
:*''Somehow I missed that, sorry''*
:"[[Droll & Lock Bird]]" is a wierd Quick Effect. It could be a Trigger Effect though. I asked the question in Judge Forum for a TCG source. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 08:23, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

== "Card Rulings" pages questions ==

Is there a specific reason [[Card Rulings:Staunch Defender#Mentions in Other Rulings]] belongs on that page? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:54, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
:It's BKSS. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 22:01, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

::No, I'm asking because that "ruling" doesn't mention "[[Staunch Defender]]" even though it is in a section called "Mentions in Other Rulings". Also, it is an OCG ruling. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 22:07, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
:::Source link to "Konami" though. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 22:08, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

::::It wasn't mentioned in the [http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=4&cid=5737 OCG card database rulings] either. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 22:17, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
:::::Then what was "Konami" doing there in the "link" box? I meant by this; ''↑ '''Konami''' FAQ: When battling by the effect of "Equip Shot", can "Sakuretsu Armor" be activated?'' If it's linking to Konami and it's not made by Konami, then why it mentioned "Konami"? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 23:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

::::::Please stop Fred. This is all unnecessary. The fact of the matter is, all rulings under a section called "Mentions in Other Rulings" mentions the card's name in rulings for other cards. That 1 ruling in the section for Card Rulings:Staunch Defender did not mention "Staunch Defender". And no, BKSS has nothing to do with it; that only applies for cards whose rulings defy their texts or similar rulings for cards with similar effects. Just wait for ATEMVEGETA to answer please. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 23:13, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

::::::::Weird! That Ruling is irrelevant with "[[Staunch Defender]]". I have no idea why Deus Ex Machina added it there. Deleted! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 08:20, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Here he answered and here that went! Are you happy now, UltimateKuriboh? --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 11:36, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hi 

I edited the card rulings page of des wombat, i know i don't have a quote but it's a fact that cost cards like ultimate offering won't be reduced to 0. So can't you accept that or do you really need a quote from Konami?

Regards

~~Wolf-Shadic~~ 
[[User:Wolf-Shadic|Wolf-Shadic]] ([[User talk:Wolf-Shadic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Wolf-Shadic|contribs]]) 18:14, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

== Condition Effects ==

There was an edit war on the "[[Alien Hypno]]" and "[[Road Synchron]]" pages over whether or not they have Condition Effects. Since "Road Synchron" was originally added to the Condition Effect page [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Condition_Effect?diff=1438022 based on something you and Deus Ex Machina said], can you shine any light on this? -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 21:30, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Also are Galaxy Zero and Lead Yoke's instead efefcts conditions? It mentions on the page that all Substitute effects are conditions.  [[User:ReadjustPurge|ReadjustPurge]] ([[User talk:ReadjustPurge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ReadjustPurge|contribs]]) 21:34, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

:@Deltaneos, if Road Synchron was Condition, then he would have nulling the effect jammer that "[[Synchron Explorer]]" had put on him, like "[[Quickdraw Synchron]]"... I am still thinking that they are Continuous Effect in that way. But until then, I will only listening to ATEM and you, not Read-just-Purge. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 21:36, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

There are some conditions that can be negated. That's why Explorer negates it. [[User:ReadjustPurge|ReadjustPurge]] ([[User talk:ReadjustPurge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ReadjustPurge|contribs]]) 21:39, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
:"[[Solemn Judgment]]" and "[[Solemn Warning]]" can negating the Condition Summon (Inherent Special Summon). And that's only known part of Condition that can be negating in my book. Quickdraw Synchron can't be negated, Exodia can't be negated, even [[The Creator God of Light, Horakhty]] can't be stopped by a f-ing trap cards, on her summoning and when her effect triggered to win the game. --<span style="font:10pt 'Bookman Old Style'">[[User:FredCat100/Smily Faces|<span style="color:#000">i</span>]][[User:FredCat100|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">F</span>]][[User talk:FredCat100#top|<span style="color:#000">r</span>]][[User:FredCat100/friends|<span style="color:#000">e</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Ruling List|<span style="color:#000">d</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Disambiguation|<span style="font-size:13pt;color:#000">C</span>]][[User:FredCat100/Research|<span style="color:#000">a</span>]][[Special:Contributions/FredCat100|<span style="color:#000">t</span>]]</span> 21:42, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't matter. Special Summoning conditions can be negated. Read the Condition page to see which ones can and which ones can't. 
@ATEM - Also, can you tell if what kind of effects the second summon of Geminis and the if this card has X as an Xyz Material effects of CXyz are? [[User:ReadjustPurge|ReadjustPurge]] ([[User talk:ReadjustPurge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ReadjustPurge|contribs]]) 22:04, July 1, 2013 (UTC)


:This question is bugging almost every player and judge. I'm referring to every card that has a Continuous-like effect, that '''CAN''' be negated by "[[Skill Drain]]" & pals, but can't be considered a "Continuous Effect" for several reasons; all the "''Conditions that can be negated''" we are mentioning [[Condition Effect|here]].
:There is not a standard answer to what type of 'effect' are those cards because Konami didn't released any official names for them. Some people call them Continuous Effects (because they can be negated by Skill Drain, etc) and some others call them Conditions (because the most of them can apply not only on the field but elsewhere as well).

:According to the official rulebook, for Continuous Effects: "''This effect is active while the Effect Monster Card is face-up on the field. The effect starts when the face-up monster appears on the field, and ends once the monster is gone or is no longer face-up; there is no trigger for its activation.''"
:According to the above statement those effects CAN'T be considered Continuous Effects. (You can use "[[Ritual Raven]]"'s effect also in your hand, You can use "[[Kaiser Sea Horse]]"'s effect also while it's face-down, ect)
:But a lot of players still call them Continuous Effects because they '''ARE''' effects and can be negated by Skill Drain, etc, and they consider the fact that they can apply not only on the field and while face-up just exception to the rule. ''They may be correct though''!! Note that in the past Konami has ruled [[Makyura the Destructor|such effects]] [[Card Rulings:Makyura the Destructor|as Continuous Effects]]. OCG though mentions them as "''This effect has no classification''" and NOT Continuous Effects.

:Here in Wikia we mention them as "''Conditions''" along with the "''True Conditions''"/"''This is not an effect''" conditions, in [[Condition Effect]] page and not as Continuous Effects. We should keep it that way until we get an official statement saying either they are Continuous Effects (in which case we delete them from that page) or they are a different type of effect (in which case.... we'll see)!
:I will ask that question in the Judge Forum in case we will finally get an official answer for that. I doubt they will respond to such question though but I'll try anyway!

:Now, about "[[Alien Hypno]]", "[[Road Synchron]]", etc, [http://yugioh-wiki.net/index.php?%A5%EB%A1%BC%A5%EB%B8%FA%B2%CC the OCG Wiki mentions them as Rule Effects (Condition Effects)]. The way we have them here in Wikia is exactly the same as the OCG Wiki so I'll say we should have them as Condition Effects as well (for now).
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 18:31, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

And what about the effects which use "instead"? Are they all unclassified effects, even if they only apply on the field like Lead Yoke? Also, all Geminis should probably be changed so their first effect is listed as a Condition. [[User:ReadjustPurge|ReadjustPurge]] ([[User talk:ReadjustPurge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ReadjustPurge|contribs]]) 13:39, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

:"[[Lead Yoke]]" is a Continuous Effect. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 05:50, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

== "-like" in Japanese ==

Is there a Japanese term for "-like Effects"? If so, could you fill in the "ignition-like", "quick-like" and "trigger-like" parameters at [[Template:Card strings/ja]]? -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 13:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

:I'm afraid there aren't any Japanese terms for "-like Effects". The TCG terms "quick-like", "trigger-like", etc are not official either but they are used much from judges and players (like a lot of other unofficial terms in YGO). I will try to find if there are any unofficial terms used by judges/players for the OCG as well. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 11:53, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

==Quotation Marks==

It was for consistency reasons; they were looking out of place when, on the vast majority of ruling pages, including Konami's, they use "". The ones posted were originally from Shriek's site, and Shriek used his own proprietary formatting. Ideally, these rulings should have a "citation needed" template, that's actually skipped my mind until now.

tl;dr: The formatting is inconsequential, because the site used to originally cite those rulings should never have been used as a source in the first place.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 21:04, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

== Welcome back ==

Great to have you back in full-swing! ^^ (Unless it's temporary ._. ) --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 19:04, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
:Haha thank you! I'm a little inactive from editing but I'm around here watching the Ruling Pages almost every day! ;) [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 19:11, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

== "Rules" regarding Ruling Pages ==

Is it okay to take an issued ruling out of context for simplicity's sake? In this case, the ruling was from an e-mail, as you can see at [[Card Rulings:Frozen Soul]] and [[Card Rulings:Reckless Greed]]. If not, feel free to correct them. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 15:56, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

:I changed it. ;) [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:13, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

== Game mechanics pages ==

This may be a bit much to ask of you, but do you think you can talk it over with User:Jarie Suicune on [[Talk:Missing the timing]]? From past experience, they seem really dedicated. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 05:05, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

== Gemini Monsters rulings ==

Should the [[Card Rulings:Gemini Monsters]] page be renamed to "Card Rulings:Gemini monsters"? Even though this is iffy, I do believe many card effects refer to those monsters as "Gemini monsters". --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 17:14, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
:Well, it doesn't make much of a difference coz in Rulings they are mentioned both as "Gemini Monsters" and "Gemini monsters", but since its main page is "[[Gemini monsters]]" it is better to make the Ruling page the same. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 19:39, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
:Now I noticed that Toon Monsters are mentioned with capital "M" in card texts. Weird! Geminis and Spirits are both mentioned with lower-case "m". [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 20:07, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

== E-Mail Rulings ==

Here's [http://i.imgur.com/0zRsCkj.png one e-mail ruling] for "[[Prideful Roar]]"; I'll leave that for you to publish on the Card Rulings page. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 03:50, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

:Leave it to me! ;) [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 14:29, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Should all rulings remain on their pages even if they were later contradicted by Konami? [http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Rulings%3AJinzo&diff=2581395&oldid=2581389 This] is the reason why I ask. In that case, is there some way you can make it obvious the e-mail ruling is incorrect, while keeping that ruling on the page? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 17:03, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

:Lets keep it down! E-mail rulings, unlike Judge Forum Rulings, can't truly be confirmed. Everyone can make its own E-mail Ruling with a fake image if he wants and give it as he got it official by Konami. Even if it is correct or not. So, we can remove an E-mail Ruling if it is confirmed from somewhere else as well. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 19:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Should [[User talk:Oucyan|this guy]] censor his e-mail address in the e-mail ruling he provided? You can see the screenshot near the bottom of my Talk Page. Either way, I hope you can handle putting it up. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 00:57, February 19, 2015 (UTC)
:There is no need to put his email adrees as a source. Only the image is enough. I will add the ruling tomorrow! Thanks! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 00:18, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

A well-known judge did an e-mail ruling and got an answer, publishing it [http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=4036 in an article] (the answer is at the bottom). It looks like it applies to all [[Ritual Spell Card]]s, so where should it be placed? On ruling pages for all Ritual Spell Cards? On the Wiki Ritual Spell Card article? Or both of these options? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 01:04, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
:It is a general game mechanic about Ritual Spell Cards so it should be best to add it only on the Wiki Ritual Spell Card article. It wouldn't be good to add it to the ruling pages with that page as source (without at least a pic of the email). I think adding it on the Wiki Ritual Spell Card article should be enough. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 10:16, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

== Banishing face-down ==

The ruling about neither player being able to look at a banished face-down card applies to all banished face-down cards, not just those banished by "Esper Girl". This is reinforced by [http://www.pojo.biz/board/showpost.php?p=24493248&postcount=502 this email ruling]; while the email is clearer, I used the card ruling document as it is more official. I feel it is necessary to mention this rule on the ruling pages of the other cards that banish face-down, as it is not a common state and not immediately obvious from game mechanics.

As for "related rulings", this is a subheader found on many pages (e.g. [[Card Rulings:Flamvell Firedog]], [[Card Rulings:Terrorking Archfiend]], [[Card Rulings:Convert Contact]]). As the ruling on the other card is for ''all'' cards banished face-down, it definitely applies to cards banished by the others whose rulings I added it to, so would seem to be a necessary addition. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:20, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

:It is better if we don't fill up the Ruling Pages with related rulings of other cards, for several reasons. Adding related rulings to cards has no ending. We can add unlimited related rulings to a single card if we search the in Ruling Pages of all the other cards with similar effect. Also, if something happens in the future (outdated ruling, text update, etc) and we need to correct that Ruling, it is hard to find it and change it in every Ruling Page we have added it. 

:The [[Card Rulings:Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame|TCG Rulings of Shura]] mention that they apply to any other monster with the text “''When this card destroys an opponent’s monster by battle and sends it to the Graveyard….''” so that's why I added them to all the monsters with the same effect. 

:The OCG Related Rulings that were added by Deus Ex Machina in the past to some Ruling Pages is because the old Konami's official OCG website had them too. For example by typing "[[Raigeki Break]]"'s OCG name in the old Konami's OCG website, it would give you results every Ruling that was mentioning "''Raigeki Break''" inside (either in question, answer or title), plus [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Raigeki_Break#cite_ref-18 the "Book of Moon"/"Ring of Destruction" vs. "Naturia Beast" ruling], even though it wasn't mentioning "''Raigeki Break''"'s name inside. Just because of that reason we had to add it here in Wikia in [[Card Rulings:Raigeki Break]] as Related Ruling.

:Now in [http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/;jsessionid=290275640282AFF23B76F2F53A6DAE73.jvm1?request_locale=ja Konami's new official OCG website], I see that the names of those cards don't redirect to those Related Rulings they had in the old website anymore, so we can delete them now.

:About "[[Esper Girl]]"'s ruling for face-down banished cards, we can't apply it to all the other effects that banish cards face-down for the reasons above, but since [http://www.pojo.biz/board/showpost.php?p=24493248&postcount=502 that e-mail ruling] exist and since it looks like it is applied for every card that banishes cards face-down, we can add that instead. :)
:E-mail Rulings are as much official as the document rulings, so there's no problem with that. We are just adding that [[Template:RulingFlagged]] because their source can't be verified, but that doesn't make them unofficial. I can add that e-mail ruling to those cards if you want. ;)

:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 17:58, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
::I actually originally had email rulings there and replaced them, so I'll just revert to those. Thanks for explaining why Related Rulings are used. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:26, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
:::Ok nice! :)
:::I'll go ahead and delete the unnecessary now OCG Related Rulings. 
:::[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 18:33, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

== LaDD vs. "Chaos Sorcerer" OR "Number 11: Big Eye" ==

So yeah, relatively recently a user tried to note the contradiction in rulings regarding how "[[Light and Darkness Dragon]]" works against those 2 monsters. Do you mind putting in a "contradiction" template for those ruling pages? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:17, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

:I'll add it! Thanks! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:25, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

::Aaaaand, as it turns out the posts were later edited. The judge forum post that is. Just want to let you know. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 02:06, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

::Nononono, I didn't want you adding in the rulings again! The thing is, the judge forum posts were edited to '''remove''' "[[Light and Darkness Dragon]]" from the ruling issued on that judge forum page. [http://imgur.com/5acpREb Check it for yourself.] I was told that someone asked the Konami employee who did that ruling to edit it, since they were wrong. As it turns out, that certain Konami employee is the head of Organized Play, and isn't very good at rulings. So do you want to revert your edits then? =/ --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 05:24, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

::Well, the answer, even after the edit, still doesn't clearly state if it refers to both Effect Veiler and LADD, but lets assume it is changed so it doesn't refer to LADD anymore. I'll change the edits. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:33, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

== Changing Destiny ==

Would you mind looking at [[Card Rulings talk:Changing Destiny|this]]? Also, I'm not sure why the OCG ruling stating which player applies the effect of "Changing Destiny" is called "Semi-Official". --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 14:53, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

:Done! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:16, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

== Ruling Contradictions ==

Mind taking a look at this? [[Forum:Gemini monster ruling tcg, and ocg contraditction]] --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 16:23, October 25, 2013 (UTC)


== Dverg of the Nordic Alfar ==

Regarding "[[Dverg of the Nordic Alfar]]", can you find a way to add a note to the TCG ruling, "If "Dverg’s" effect is being negated, you cannot Normal Summon the extra monster," since the newer TCG ruling both agrees and disagrees with it? (This means "[[Skill Drain]]" can negate it if it was already active when "Dverg" was Summoned, but "[[Fiendish Chain]]" can't after it was Summoned.) --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 04:23, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
:This Ruling was released along with the other out of dated ruling, so probably refers to "Dverg"'s effect being negated even after it's Summon. So, it is better to move it to into the "Out of Date" section. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 23:30, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

== Trap Monster rulings ==
Is it possible to add [https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=4062 this] as a "current" TCG ruling, seeing as it was posted by the current Konami? Some people might want confirmation that not only UDE confirms it (in the "Embodiment of Apophis" ruling), but also the current Konami as well. Adding the ruling would be similar to the TCG ruling issued for "[[Constellar Pollux]]", "[[Evilswarm Castor]]", etc. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 05:03, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

:Yep, we can add those Rulings. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:39, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

== "Face-up" rulings ==

Relevant to your interests: [[Forum:Plz update rulings for Cyber Phoenix]]. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 07:54, December 16, 2013 (UTC)
:Sorry for the late response, now I saw the message. Somehow I didn't noticed it. From what I see [[User:X-Metaman|X-Metaman]] already added the new Ruling. :) [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 22:46, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

== ==

Hey. [[User:Ep1kk|Ep1kk]] has a very inappropriate signature name. {{Unsigned|Rongneezy|23:45, January 19, 2014}}
:What is his signature exactly, I don't see it somewhere. Amd, don't forget to also add your sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your posts in forum and talk pages. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 22:46, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

== "Mentions in Other Rulings" ==
Is it okay for me to create an "OCG Rulings" section in [[Card Rulings:Goblin of Greed]] and place the 1 ruling from [[Card Rulings:The Tricky]] in a subsection called "Mentions in Other Rulings"? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 00:31, January 23, 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, of course! Since "[[Goblin of Greed]]" is mentioned in that Ruling you can add it to [[Card Rulings:Goblin of Greed]] as well. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 18:49, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

== Judge Forum Program Rulings ==

Ah, I just learned that you're not allowed to share personal details from the forum. You may not even be allowed to share anything from the forum. Please trust me without question when I say you need to censor every article listed on [[User:ATEMVEGETA/Judge Program Forum Rulings]] accordingly (removing the personal information). --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:26, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
:Yea you are right! I stopped editing those pages and I was about to delete them sooner or later. I will post them again later (the rulings only this time, so we will be legal) in a better way to navigate them. Thanks for the note! ;)
:I see they are already deleted now though by TwoTailedFox!
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 01:38, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

== UDE Rulings ==

In the "Previously Official Rulings" section, are we allowed to create an "Out of Date" sub-section or no? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 15:51, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
:Yes ofc, like in [[Card Rulings:Doomcaliber Knight]] page! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 19:48, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

== Card List Deletion ==

Hey, I was just wondering why loads of the card lists have been deleted off the booster pack pages - for years I've found them really useful in locating the cards I want, but no I'm not sure where to look. I just found it strange because some of the booster packs had their card lists deleted whereas others still have theirs...

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Valiant

^above is an example of where the card list for the booster pack has been deleted
--[[User:LewisHackett|LewisHackett]] ([[User talk:LewisHackett|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LewisHackett|contribs]]) 21:19, March 2, 2014 (UTC)

== Reversal Quiz ruling ==

Why isn't it out-of-date? The one listed as out-of-date says you can only need to have 1 card in your hand and none on the field to activate it, or just 1 card on your field and none in your hand to activate it, which is incorrect as stated by the e-mail. Can't we just do "..." at the end of the UDE ruling, after the 1st 2 sentences, and place the incorrect sentence as "out-of-date" with "..." at the beginning? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 14:04, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

:Also, do you have Skype? Not sure if we asked you before, but we have a Skype room for admins, if you're interested. Just follow [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Wilimut#Skype this]. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 14:06, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

:I was wondering the same thing, especially given the context of the question being asked. [[User:Chaosgodkarl|Chaosgodkarl]] ([[User talk:Chaosgodkarl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chaosgodkarl|contribs]]) 15:37, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

::Well, it's just that the question and answer of the email ruling isn't much clear. By reading it I can get another meaning that not nessasarilly contradict with the old ruling. By the way, since the old Ruling contradicts with the OCG as well, I will change my edit and put it as outdated again.

::UltimateKuriboh, I will try to make it similar with [[Card Rulings:Doomcaliber Knight|Doomcaliber Knight's outdating ruling]] with grey colors on the correct part. About Skype, I have Skype but I don't use it much. Btw, I didn't knew we have an admin room there. xD I will check it sometime.

::[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 18:25, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

== Bujingi Turtle ==

That's alright, you don't have to be online on Skype all the time. Would you mind adding a TCG/OCG ruling difference template for this card's ruling page? In the OCG, only cards that negate '''activations''' of cards/effects can be used during the Damage Step, and not cards that negate '''effects''' (due to their new rulebook). --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 15:25, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

== UDE FAQ ==

A little bit confused by a slight inconsistency in your recent edits. Should the UDE FAQ section go [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Ultimate_Offering?diff=next&oldid=2806989 above] or [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Wall_of_Illusion?diff=prev&oldid=2807005 below] "Mentions in Other Rulings"? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:40, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

:It is better to go below of the "Mentions in Other Rulings" since "Mentions in Other Rulings" are also rulings from UDE's ruling database so they should't be "seperated" from the individual ones. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:07, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

== Edit Problem ==

Hi there, 

I'm having a problem editing because suddenly a very old-looking, hard-to-understand version of the wiki editor has been running when I try to edit.

I'm used to one with white buttons and a drop-down search box for links; I don't know if this one appeared because I'm editing an archived article.  I'll send you a screenshot when I can if required and until we sort out the problem my edits will have no links within the text.

Best regards,
ThefabledDavid

[[User:ThefabledDavid|ThefabledDavid]] ([[User talk:ThefabledDavid|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThefabledDavid|contribs]]) 06:17, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
:Hey ThefabledDavid! I am not really sure what exactly the problem is. A screenshot would be helpful. 
:By the way, you may try this: At the top-right corner of the page go to "Preferences" and then where it says "Layout:" make it "MonoBook". Then hit "Save". This changes your Wikia view to the old-style Wikia. I hope it'll help!
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 06:30, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

== Jackfrost rule question ==

morning man,
im here to ask about the Jackfrost rule
ins this page ( http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Ghostrick_Jackfrost ) dont says if his effect target or not, i think its not target because you can read "monster´s" on the description
you can help-me and answer, if possible?
ty
great job here [[User:Karkoski|Karkoski]] ([[User talk:Karkoski|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Karkoski|contribs]]) 14:29, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

== Solemn Warning ruling ==

I'm not sure what to do about [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Solemn_Warning?curid=218581&diff=2877454&oldid=2526852 this new addition]. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 17:13, September 30, 2014 (UTC)
:Fixed! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 17:23, September 30, 2014 (UTC)
::Is there any particular reason "Solemn Warning" [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Solemn_Warning?diff=prev&oldid=2877497 negates the Pendulum Summon] of "exactly" 3 monsters? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:53, September 30, 2014 (UTC)
:::The question asked was about a spesific situation where the opponent wanted to pendulum summon 3 monsters. So it was answered as "Can Solemn Warning be used to negate a Pendulum Summon of 3 monsters?", [[Card Rulings:Black Horn of Heaven|unlike Horn of Heaver]] which was asked if it can negate the Pendulum Summon of 2 or more monsters. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 07:45, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

== Enemy Controller vs Mirror force on 1 card  ==

Hello, I was recently dueling my friend for fun and I stumbled across a problem. When i was dueling my opponent had no cards on the field except one trap card, "enemy controller". That card is used to take control of my card, the "blue eyes white dragon", and use it as his own in battle as you already know but i had a "mirror force" card that i had face down. So he attacks me with my card under the "enemy controller" and i used "mirror force". In this case would my Blue eyes be destroyed, destroy my life points, or made into a stalemate? 
Thank you 
{{Unsigned|Funkywynd20|04:17, December 17, 2014‎}}

:Hello! After your posts make sure you sign your name with: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
:In this situation [[Blue-Eyes White Dragon]] is destroyed by [[Mirror Force]]. Then the attack stops, and no player takes any battle damage. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 10:08, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

== Snyffus ==

Why'd you delete the "[[Snyffus]]" ruling? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 13:10, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
:Sry, I got it confused with an old Snyffus Ruling posted by Kevin Tewart on pojo stating exactly the same thing. I thought you meant that that thread got deleted, thus it would be making the ruling invalid and unofficial. But now I noticed that the link of that Ruling was changed from Kevin's post to an email Ruling (since Kevin's post was also deleted and the link [http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Snyffus?action=history was reverted by SnorlaxMonster on 07:58, March 9, 2014]‎). 
:I revert my edits back, so the ruling is there again! Thanks for the note, I wouldn't have notice it! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:59, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

== U.A. Stadium ==

Could you create the rulings page for "[[U.A. Stadium]]" please? http://i.imgur.com/iib873Y.jpg --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 17:10, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
::Done! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 17:44, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

== Coming Soon/Release Dates ==

Hi, I was just curious on what happened to the release date section of this wikia where it had all the dates of what was coming to the OCG and the TCG
[[User:BlueDuelist|BlueDuelist]] ([[User talk:BlueDuelist|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlueDuelist|contribs]]) 17:09, May 31, 2015 (UTC)
:You can find the news portal here: [[Portal:TCGOCG]] [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 11:15, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

== Out of Date Ruling ==

After making many edit on card rulings pages I found that some rules have part of them "out of date" but not the whole rule. So I come to an idea of making the "out of date" part with strikethrough line instead of moving the whole rule to "Out of Date" section. see [[Card Rulings:Last Resort]] for example. --[[User:Dlamash|Dlamash]] ([[User talk:Dlamash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlamash|contribs]]) 10:15, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
:Well, slashed rulings are not easy to read that's why we are using the Out of Date section for those rulings so the whole Ruling can be read without problem. If I'm not mistaken this had been discussed in the past and it had beed decided to use it that way, and we were doing it like that since then. Also, if there is only a small change in the ruling we have also {{sic|{{Span|Add the note here!|the underline note}}}} so we can point out the change without having to move the whole ruling into the Out of Date section. Just like we do with the "Elemental HERO", "Leaves the field", and "Banish" term changes. Ofc, those changes about Field Spell Cards were mostly Ruling changes rather than term changes. But I don't think they are many of them, so I guess we can add them to the Out of Date section is the whole Ruling is invalid, or simply add the underline note if a small part of the Ruling is invalid. I'll try it with [[Last Resort]]'s Rulings. If you can find more of such Rulings of Field Spell Cards let me know. Thanks! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 15:09, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
::I changed the ruling page but I'm not sure if that's the best way to have it. Lets leave it like that for now until we come up with something else for those small-part-out of-date rulings. Maybe we can have the slash-line after all but only for such Rulings. For all the other Out of Date Rulings use the Out of Date section instead of the slash line, and if you can find other such rulings please let me know. Thanks! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 15:45, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
:::To be honest, I didn't like the section method because it will lead us to make subsections for it, it's like a small ruling page inside a big one. we don't need to gather all rulings in single section just to point out that they are Out of Date. I agree, <s>slashed rulings are not easy to read</s>, however we have the <span style="background-color: #FFFF00">highlight method</span>, and this in my opinion the best way that work in both small-part and all-part "Out of Date" rulings. --[[User:Dlamash|Dlamash]] ([[User talk:Dlamash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlamash|contribs]]) 18:17, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

:Where is the problem with having those rulings in seperate section (Out of Date Rulings)? Having them seperated from the valid ones make it easier for someone browsing the Ruling Page to find out how the card works. Also there is no need to make any other subsections besides "Out of Date". If a Ruling becomes outdated it is moved there, simple as that. About those Field Spell Card Rulings that are part wrong, we can add the slash line to those parts only with a note. Since there wont be many of them it doesn't matter much. Or at least we find a better way in the future. The highlight method wont be good since it just brings more attention of the reader and it's something we don't want for the out of date rulings of course. 

:I'll try to make [[Last Resort]]'s Rulings with the slash line and tell me your opinion on it. It will be pretty much as you had made it before.
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 21:20, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
::If we assume there is TCG, OCG and Previously Out of Date rulings, will we put all of them in one "out of date" section? The current [[Card Rulings:Last Resort]] page will make readers confuse if they compare it with [[Card Rulings:Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys]] page for example, The reason way the ruling is out of date must be mention in "Notes" section so no one get confuse. --[[User:Dlamash|Dlamash]] ([[User talk:Dlamash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlamash|contribs]]) 23:12, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
:::No, each section will have its own Out of Date category of course. 
:::[[Card Rulings:Last Resort|Like this?]]
:::[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 23:19, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes
::::Regarding the highlight, <span style="background-color: LightGray">we can just use LightGray, and it will not make that much attention, </span>if that better. --[[User:Dlamash|Dlamash]] ([[User talk:Dlamash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dlamash|contribs]]) 23:30, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
:::::There is no need to use highlight at all. Slash line for such rulings is just fine, and for the whole outated ones the Out of Date section is the best choice. It doesn't matter that it is a seperate category from the other rulings at all. Seperating rulings in categories is rather helpful than confusing. Check for example [[Card Rulings:Book of Moon]]. If it didn't had the rulings seperated in different categories (ofc all in the correct section) it would be really messy and hard for readers to find the Rulings they want. On the other hand, any color on highlited text brings attention over the other normal written rulings. That's the purpose of highliting anyway! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 23:40, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

== Quoting Judge Forum ==

Unless you're quoting the forum posts '''verbatim''', I don't see why you can't make them grammatically correct. If not, it will cause some viewers to question the validity of the Wiki ruling, if it has grammar errors in it. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 22:02, June 8, 2015 (UTC)
:Those Rulings you tried to correct were actually written verbatim as I wrote them! xD
:For example in the Mind Crush one, the exact responce is this:
:<blockquote>You are correct. When "Reinforcement of the Army" resolves, turn player may start a Chain with a Spell Speed 2+ card or effect or pass Priority. This means that the opponent will have the opportunity to activate a Spell Speed 2+ card ("Mind Crush", etc) before the turn player will have the opportunity to Normal Summon a Monster. <br>''By Franklin Debrito''</blockquote>
:There are Rulings of cource that can't be written exactly as they are posted. For example if someone is asking of an answer of a chain proccedure, then the answer of the Konami's Official can be something like: "In your scenario ____ will miss the timing because it is an optional effect and the last thing that happened is..."
:In these cases when I make the Ruling here for the Wiki I convert it to a ruling-style (like we do with the OCG Rulings) and I have to include the whole scanario in the question in the Ruling, so I can correct there any grammar mistakes it can have in the question made by the Judge (since the Judge's question is not "official"). But I avoid correcting much things from the Konami Official's answer (because those words '''are''' "official").
:And when an answer is itself written as ruling-style I leave it as it is even though it may have grammar mistakes or capital/lower case letters in official terms (like Damage Calculation). 
:The best for us is to leave them '''exactly''' as in the official source. If the official source have errors then it's not our fault to correct them. If an official Ruling like this exist: "[[Kuriboh]] is asfsfhdasfsfgdfsafdsfhdftgefsldgkajlfkwneflnglrg", we have to add it in [[Kuriboh]]'s Ruling Page reagrdless it it doesn't make sence at all, as long as it is official.
:Also, if the viewers have doubts about the the validity of the Wiki's ruling, then the can always go and check it themselves in the official source, in which they will see it is written exactly the same. :)
:Besides, in order to point out such grammar mistakes, out of date parts, typos, etc in official rulings pages, we can simple add a note or {{sic}}, etc to point ot the mistake and we write what it was supposed to say/mean in the note.
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 08:18, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

::The point is that the average viewer can't, since only judges can view the forums. Otherwise you wouldn't have been forced to delete your copy/pasted rulings. But {{sic}} is ok I guess. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:36, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

:::Yes it's better to leave them as they are written with {{sic}} or a Note rather than trying to correct them. By the way, this Debrito guy seems to have made a lot of grammar mistakes in his answers, shihh! In this one for example he nailed it [[Card Rulings:Chain Disappearance]] [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 21:43, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

== TCG text conflicts with OCG ruling ==

After X-Metaman creates the [[Card Rulings:Jinzo - Jector]] page, would you mind explaining there how the TCG text conflicts with the JP ruling? It's basically "''your opponent must control a Set card in order for you to activate''" vs. "''they don't have to control a Set card''". --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 19:13, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
:Done! I'm sorry for the late respond! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 22:21, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

== Flip a monster face-down, then face-up during the same Battle Phase ==

If that monster already attacked during the Battle Phase, can it attack again during the same Battle Phase? Would like a source for the ruling, if any. --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 13:08, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
:Generally, a monster is considered to be "the same monster" as long as it stays on the field regardless if it changes control or flipped face-down. So if a monster on the field attacks, it cannot declare a second attack even if it switch control twice or flipped face-down and again face-up in the same Battle Phase. Only if it leaves the field (goes to the Graveyard and back to the field again, etc) is considered a "different monster" and can declare a second attack in the same Battle Phase. I tried to find an official Ruling for that but I didn't find any yet. If I find something I will write it here. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 20:39, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

== Central of yu-gi-oh  communities ==

Hi , I 'm a big fan of the wiki and ADM of Portuguese wiki. I recently had an idea, which was create a wikia and / or pages on social networks , where all yugioh communities in all countries and languages, with all variants (per example the wiki decks and the wiki yugioh questions) for wikis can communicate more easily with each other , for projects together , to help each other .... etc .

This project would have the name given in the title and would only serve to communicate , not as an encyclopedia of yugioh

Right now, I'm also contact the other wikis.

For more details , leave a message on my wall .

waiting ,
[[User:Goncasdio|goncasdio]] ([[User talk:Goncasdio|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Goncasdio|contribs]]) 14:01, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

== Needs correcting and upset how I've been treated==
I am really upset on how I've been treated on here when trying to give accurate information and would really like if an admin could please here what I have to say and help correct something, I have proof and official source of said info and would like to talk about it please? [[User:Jerrboy31|Jerrboy31]] ([[User talk:Jerrboy31|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jerrboy31|contribs]]) 06:44, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
:Feel free to tell me what happened! [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 11:19, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

== Desperate Tag ==

Can [[Card Rulings:Desperate Tag|the rulings]] for "[[Desperate Tag]]" (regarding the card itself being activated) be extrapolated to make stuff like [[Card Rulings:Damage = Reptile|the ruling]] of "[[Damage = Reptile]]" obsolete? Keep in mind that "[[Howl of the Wild]]" has [[Card Rulings:Howl of the Wild|a ruling]] that was issued '''at the same time''' as "Desperate Tag"... is that ruling vague enough for "Desperate Tag"'s ruling to apply to it? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 21:02, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
:Oh! How did I missed this post? Big sorry for the late respond!
:It seems like Trap Cards with optional Trigger-like effects that activate during the Damage Step (inflict Battle Damage, send to the Graveyard as a result of battle, etc), can activate the card and the effect in the same chain link during the Damage Step when it meets its trigger condition. Cards with mandatory trigger-like effect cannot be activated that way. For example cards like "[[Howl of the Wild]]", "[[Robbin' Goblin]]", "[[Robbin' Zombie]]" and "[[Xyz Tribalrivals]]" cannot be activated during the Damage Step and they all have OCG Rulings about that. "[[Hard-sellin' Goblin]]", "[[Hard-sellin' Zombie]]", "[[Begone, Knave!]]", and "[[Madolche Waltz]]" have similar effects but they don't have a specific ruling for that, but they should work the same. On the other hand, cards with optional effects have all rulings that say they can be activated (card + effect) in the same chain link: "[[U.A. Penalty Box]]", "[[Damage = Reptile]]", "[[Desperate Tag]]", "[[Yang Zing Creation]]". The only weird card in this category is "[[Unpossessed]]" which has a ruling that says it can be activated only from the "start of the Damage Step" up to "before damage calculation" (probably because of its second effect) but it says nothing if you can activate the card and use its 3rd effect in the same chain link when the monster is destroyed by battle and send to the Graveyard.
:This issue is bugging many judges until now sinse there isn't any official statement about how these Trap Cards work exactly. I will ask this as a question in the TCG Judge Forum hoping to get an official definition on this. I will reply here if I get an answer. So, to answer your question, I would say that a judge can extrapolate [[Card Rulings:Desperate Tag|the OCG ruling]] for "[[Desperate Tag]]" to "[[Damage = Reptile]]" since both fall into the same effect category, and consider UDE's old ruling as outdated.
:[[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 23:41, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

== Card/Hand Verification ==

Regarding the Judge Program Forum Rulings for cards like "[[Mind Crush]]" and other cards that might involve revealing the hand for confirmation, can we make some of them "official" now? As of this message, in the bottom-right hand corner here, you can see some Tournament Policy Documents. In the one specifically named "[http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/penalty_guide/Yu-Gi-Oh!%20Tournament%20Policy%20v1.4%202013November14.pdf KDE Official Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME Tournament Policy]" which have been '''officially published by Konami''' and can be '''publicly accessed''', you can see a "Card/Hand Verification" section there which deals with some of the issues the Judge Program Forum Rulings cover. I can't view the forum, so would you mind changing some of the rulings to be outside of the green "unverified" box? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 20:40, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, we can do that, no problem! I did it already in "[[Card Rulings:Mind Crush]]". [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 16:53, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

== Wall of Revealing Light ==

[http://yugioh.wikia.com/index.php?title=Card_Rulings%3AWall_of_Revealing_Light&diff=1896366&oldid=1586832 Regarding this edit], do you remember the source where it was stated that you can't pay your LP to 0 (in the TCG)? --[[User:UltimateKuriboh|UltimateKuriboh]] ([[User talk:UltimateKuriboh|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UltimateKuriboh|contribs]]) 01:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
:I doubt there is a source for that! I think it is a general Ruling rather than an individual one, which is extrapolated from the fact that "<i>you cannot pay the cost if your LP would become 0</i>"! Similar situation is when paying LP for a mandatory [[Mainenance Cost]]. In the OCG it is stated that if you have exactly the LP amount to be paid then you must pay it and lose the Duel. In the TCG there is no ruling for this so "normally" you go with the "<i>you can't pay the cost</i>". Much like you can't activate [[Premature Burial]] with only 800 LP left. [[User:ATEMVEGETA|<span style="color:red;">ATEMVEGETA</span>]] ([[User_talk:ATEMVEGETA|Talk]]) 10:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)