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Darklight Dragons[edit]

Darklight Dragons 2.0[edit]


Requirements:

  1. This deck is a Cyberdark/Blue-Eyes/Dragon deck so it must satify all of those types.
  2. This deck must be able to summon Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, Cyberdark Dragon, Dragon Master Knight, and Five-Headed Dragon.
  3. SHINING STAYS! END OF STORY!
  4. Needs to be able to play fast.
  5. Does not need common monster staples such as Cyber Dragon, Sangan and Neo-Spacian Grand Mole.
  6. Synchro's will go in but I am not concerned with them.

Ok. What do you need? :D Chris427 05:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

  • A million dollars, and some advice. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Lol. Queries on the deck I posted? Chris427 05:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Dude. Do you have MSN? Add me if you do. It'll make things easier. Chris427 05:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
        • No I don't. Thoughts: I don't have 3 of each Cyberdark, Exploder Dragon, or even one of Prime Material Dragon or Elemental Hero Prisma (but I'll work on those two). Cyberdark Impact! costs $60, but I think I only need one. Why do I need Hand Destruction...or even three? I may add one Foolish Burial. Would Megamorph work instead of LR. I only have one of the Viruses (DDV). And which do you think is better, Solemn Judgment or Dark Bribe? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
          • -_-" I did mention that requested decks I make are regardless of price. But of course, that is a totally understandable issue. I hate how money is such an annoyance. The only problem with Cyberdark decks is that Cyberdark Impact! is technically one of the most important cards in the game. We could, however, replace it with Power Bond, and it may be a cheaper solution, though it will nerf the speed. And I can't really say a Cyberdark Deck is a Cyberdark Deck without at least 2 of each Cyberdark. Megamorph could work instead of LR, but its preferable that LR remains. If you have DDV instead of CCV, then go for it. As for the trap negation, both Solemn Judgment and Dark Bribe are expensive/hard-to-get. But most of the time people go for Solemn Judgment. Other times when they don't really care about giving opponents cards, they go for Dark Bribe. It depends on the deck. Chris427 05:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
  • By Cyberdark Deck, I mean Cards that help CDD and the other Cyberdarks , not themselves. But what about Blue-Eyes (Shining STAYS). Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Shining can stay. It's nice to have a personal card in there. Keep the 3 Blue-Eyes though. Chris427 05:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
      • ...WELL NO F***ING DUH, of coarse I keeping my three BEWDs!!!! No but seriously what support cards should I use? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Going to sleep, but here are my suggestions for your deck (as it is now). Remove Skill Drain. Remove Polymerization and put more Dragon's Mirror. Never consider Card Destruction over Trade-In in a Dragon deck like yours. Remove Draining Shield and Magic Cylinder. These cards are of no use. Chris427 07:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll think about Polymerization...I thought card Destruction was Hand Destruction (I know they are different). Trade-In does not really help me at all (HD would be better). Skill DRain has proven useful...if I use it right (BEUD vs. weak GB's and LS's). And WTH do you have against Magic Cylinder and Draining Shield (What is better in your opinion...DS or Divine Wrath)? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 14:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Petpeeve number 1: Seeing Draining Shield in Dragon Decks. At least remove Draining Shield. It has nothing to do with a dragon deck. -.- Chris427 18:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I will replace it with Divine Wrath. But I am curious...MC and DS are, in a sense, Staples...they have little Drawbacks...why do you dislike them? Oh and is there a card (not Royal Oppression) that stops Special Summons (Continous please). Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Hey Dmaster have you thought about Dragonic Knight, nice surprise summon and 2800 ATK. oh and if you had two Dark Bribes and two Solemn Judgments you should add one more Van'Dalgyon the Dark Dragon Lord, just my two-sense, I like surprise summons :). -- Dragon of chaos 18:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Dragonic Knight's a good idea. But as for the negation, you want to focus them to one of the two. Dark Bribe OR Solemn Judgment - never Dark Bribe AND Solemn Judgment. Either trap negator, you should run 3, and that's it. Chris427 00:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • May I ask why (I did that on my game with DB, but I am just curious). Dmaster (Contribs Count) 01:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, how about adding the Frembell-related Dragons (Frembell Dragunov and Guard of Frembell, since they would work well with Cyberdarks; once they're released in the TCG) and Stardust Dragon or Red Dragon Archfiend. Bluedog 02:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I plan on getting all of the Five Dragons, but GoF or Magna Drago are both good as tuners until White of Legend. As for FD...maybe. F*** they need to make a good Dragon Archetype. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 02:42, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
        • You'd think that with all the Archetypes being made, there would be at least one for Dragons, but sadly, Konami hasn't made one. Hopefully the whole 5 Dragons thing will make them make one. Anyway, how about Elemental Hero Woodsman? He's useful in getting Polymerization for Fusions, and his effect also lets you abuse Polymerization for costs. Bluedog 02:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
          • It's okay not what I am looking for though...do you know any cards that could stop DAD, Lightsworns, Gladiator Beasts, and other powerful archtypes...or make this decks swarming/beatdown tactics? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 03:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Light-Imprisoning Mirror, and Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror say hi. -- Dragon of chaos 03:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Yeah, to Blue-Eyes Shining and Cyberdark Dragon...screw that (sorry if that was harsh). Dmaster (Contribs Count) 03:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
      • If you wanna stop GB's, cards that negate battles work well. Oh yeah, Destiny Hero - Plasma told me to say hello. Bluedog 03:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Does Dmaster have to choke a b****. STOP saying hello!!!!!XD Tell me Bluedog...would you use D-Heros's in a dragon deck? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 03:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Probably not, but Plasma doesn't require other D-Heroes to be used. It's one of those things that can be Side-Decked for tournaments. And I also enjoy Chappelle's Show, lol. Bluedog 03:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Thought so...I'm Rick James B****. Okay I'm done with that...I need ideas that support Blue-Eyes and Cyberdark Dragon (for example summoner of Illusions can bring out BEUD for a turn then when it is destroyed I can equip it to CDD) Dmaster (Contribs Count) 03:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
    • As long as you don't say anything about my couch...*ahem*...Shadow Delver would work with Cyberdarks. Bluedog 03:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Dude! It just hit me! Penumbral Soldier Lady as a counter to Lightsworns, with few drawbacks to your current deck! Bluedog 04:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Do you think I should keep Luster Dragon? Because Mirage Dragon seems very useful. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 05:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Perhaps 2 Luster Dragons and 1 Mirage Dragon. Or 2 Mirage Dragons and 1 Luster Dragon. I'd say the first one is better, because Luster Dragon can be a very good equip for CDD. Bluedog 17:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Out of these, which should be side-decked: Van'Dalgyon the Dark Dragon Lord, King of the Swamp, Kaibaman, Summoner of Illusions. Strangely enough I think Van'dalgyon. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 18:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Yeah, either Van'Dalgyon or King of the Swamp. Bluedog 18:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Van'Dalgyon goes...he's better in my Dragon Lord deck anyway. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 19:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Your deck's still jumbled... Chris427 06:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
  • What's up?
    • Okay you can see some of the new cards I have under "other", should I use any? And if I were to make a 40 card deck (20 monsters) What out of King of the Swamp, Kaibaman, Summoner of Illusions, Twin-Headed Behemoth, and Exploder Dragon should I keep or should I get rid of all my luster dragons add those five, but then what should I add? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 04:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Oh what? You had a bottomless? Add that. Chris427 04:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
        • I take it I should switch it with Dimensional Prison. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 04:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Yes. Chris427 04:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
  • If you ever need to test your deck, this new system Airblade and Osmiu made in the forum section in collaboration with IRC is excellent. Chris427 04:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I saw it. Dmaster (Contribs Count) 15:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Okay, my question is, I have 22 monsters. I want 20. So out of King of the Swamp, Kaibaman, Summoner of Illusions, Twin-Headed Behemoth, and Exploder Dragon which two should I get rid of. Or should I remove my Luster Dragons, in which I have 19 monster and then add Mirage Dragon? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 00:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
        • Out of those, its best to remove Kaibaman and Summoner of Illusions. Chris427 00:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Exactly what I thought you would say, and I agree. So wanna duel? Dmaster (Contribs Count) 00:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Darklight Dragons 3.0[edit]

  • Hmmm... well for starters, why's Wulf in there? I get that Foolish Burial can send them to the grave and stuff, but it seems like such a strange choice (not saying it's bad, just... a bit odd xD). --Bluedog (Talk) 04:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Oppps, meant Ryko (he is the unconventional measure btw). Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 04:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
      • Yeah, that makes more sense now. Well with him, it'd be A LOT faster in terms of powering up the Cyberdarks... or sending a Blue-Eyes to revive it later. Plus his effect would be incredibly annoying (getting rid of ANY card x_x). I'd say it sounds like a good choice. Have you tested this deck out yet? --Bluedog (Talk) 04:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
        • Yeah but it never works as it should. My regular deck probably is better, but then again I've been going against Lightsworn and DAD Decks. Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 04:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
          • Well what's the biggest problem with it? --Bluedog (Talk) 04:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  • The "getting my a*s kicked"-part. Actually I just had a duel with it. I hand no hand and just summoned BEUD and my opponent had JD, Wulf and Jain, they had 6000 LP, I had 150. I go to attack thinking "Your a*s is mine, b****" then they remove from play Necro Gardna. SON OF A B****! It's faster, but unlike my actual deck. it has very little to work with. PS. Currently busy, will you be on in an hour? Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 04:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
    • I might be, can't say for sure. --Bluedog (Talk) 05:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
      • Sup. --Bluedog (Talk) 06:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
        • Nothing much, still getting my ass handed to me though. 2 of every 5 duels I win...about, maybe less. Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 06:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
          • Ouch. Which cards (in your deck) seem to be the most troublesome to use? --Bluedog (Talk) 06:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Sadly enough, most of the staples. For some reason I have a harder time getting the Cyberdarks out. CCV I use rarely, Blue-Eyes never comes out and when he does he accomplishes nothing. I have no draw power, etc, etc, etc. Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 06:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Have you considered Trade-In or Reckless Greed? (best to use Reckless Greed in 3's) --Bluedog (Talk) 06:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
      • I have, but Trade-In, in my belief, is only good if you run a Destiny End Dragoon deck or a Dragon Lord Deck. Reckless may be good. Note: With Ryko, I inherit more of the LS downside than good. Dmaster (Talk Contribs Count) 06:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
        • Perhaps you should cut Ryko down to 1 or 2 and add a Masked Dragon (helps Cyberdarks and White Stone) or two. After all, a searcher monster can thin out your deck a bit without overdoing it (like Ryko might). --Bluedog (Talk) 06:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
          • Oh I gotta go, good night. --Bluedog (Talk) 06:43, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Ah, I needed a list like that. Up until now, I had been using various lists like that, but they were all over the place! Thanks for putting 'em all in one place. Bluedog 00:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Rising Great Dragon Deck[edit]

If you don't like it, I can re-do it or just leave it at that. --Blue (Talk) 03:22, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

  • Good. Could use a few more Dragon beatsticks like Vanguard of the Dragon. I kind of wished it have worked in an Van'Dalgyon the Dark Dragon Lord + Overwhelm combo, had more The Afterglow of a Miracle. That doesn't mean change it, I'm just thinking while typing. Oh, and what's better? Advance Draw or Trade-In? Yeah Trade-In is easier, but it shouldn't be used on Felgrand Dragon or The Creator.
    • Well in a Dragon Lords deck, aren't the high-level dragons supposed to be the beatsticks while the smaller monsters serve as tribute fodder? Anyway, I'd say you can use 2 Trade-Ins and 2 Advance Draws, possibly. Or 1 Trade-In and 2 Advance Draws. --Blue (Talk) 23:19, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
      • Meh, could be. But with how the game is played today, usually your beatsticks come out too quickly, thus you might need a low level beatstick to quickly counter. But then again...in this deck, if played properly, you'd want to dump Totem Dragon quickly and get out a high level dragon. D.Kaiser (Talk Contribs Count) 06:27, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
        • That's kind of what I was going for: Searching out Totem Dragon or just dumping him and then summoning Tyrant/Felgrand while at the same time summoning FGD (possibly, if Future Fusion was used). At the moment, Herald of Creation's probably the only low-level beatstick... hmm... Vanguard of the Dragon could work, but I didn't use him because there aren't any normal monsters in this deck. Any ideas? --Blue (Talk) 20:59, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Rising Great Dragon Deck 2.0[edit]

  • Ok I will make a few changes to it. Felgrand is hardly splashable, so I've cut it to only one. Tri-Horned Dragon is just a staple for me just because its one of my most famous cards, he also works for Trade-In better than Felgrand or The Creator. Darkblaze is included because he is a "Dragon Lord" after all, he can also be easily Special Summoned with Masked Dragon, and is a good discard and target for Foolish Burial. I'm not sure about including the Armed Dragons. Since the very instant they entered into my deck, they became among the best arsenal I had. Decoy is mostly to stall, I don't think three are necessary. As someone said previously, the are no low level beatsticks so I've added two Luster Dragons and two Axe Dragonutes (Through he is OCG only), one Spear Dragon and Lancer Dragonute (Yes, he works and has a good DEF. And talking about DEF, The Dragon Dwelling in the Cave is always a good option to deal against 1900 attack monsters, can be summoned with Masked Dragon and is a good Tribute monster. And finally Exploder Dragon is one of the best Dragons around, he can be easily summoned and can kill a monster taking no damage. Return from the Different Dimension also works unite well with Dragon's Mirror, you can summon many beatsticks and take the s*** out of your opponent. Wih these additions, the deck has 50 cards now. If someones can give suggestions I would really appreciate it.
  • Okay, so I just cut down on the stuff that would slow the deck down. Had to remove most of the low-level beatsticks because they don't really fit in with the overall strategy of the deck. Still not sure about Van'Dalgyon, though, since there's only one in the entire deck and there's no real way to search it out, so clogging the deck with Counter Traps is kinda odd, I guess. --Blue (Talk) 05:52, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Rising Great Dragon Deck 3.0[edit]

Okay, no one use this section yet. We all revised a version of the deck, so now let's critique each others decks. Once we are finished with that we will decide which cards are musts and make a new format where we will debate on the best way to make a 40-50 (preferably 45) card deck. I repeat: Do not use this section as of yet. Critique each others version of this deck.

Cyber Chaos Oath[edit]

Volcanic Soul[edit]

Well I didn't have to change too much, since the build you had was good already, but the most important changes are:

  • + Sangan: To search out ammo for Blaze Accelerator.
  • + Volcanic Blaster: So much you can do with this one. Search out Doomfire when you have Tri-Blaze, search Rocket so you can also bring out a Blaze Accelerator, or just search out any other Volcanic you might need.
  • + Burial from a Different Dimension: You mentioned working with the RFP aspects of Soul of Fire and Volcanic Counter, but I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind. It does make Soul of Fire and Volcanic Counter much easier to use, though.
  • - Card Trader and Dark World Dealings: They didn't seem all that helpful here.

That's all that's different, if you don't like how it turned out, feel free to say so. --Blue (Talk) 02:57, January 8, 2010 (UTC)