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I've tried adding a local RegExTypoFix to AWB, but it's not working. Any idea what I've done wrong? -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:08, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure; I wasn't able to get the Wikipedia typo list to work here either. Maybe ask at wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser to see if anyone there can spot the problem or otherwise elucidate why it isn't working. =/ ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:56, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Card Galleries

Thanks for fixing the "!" issue in that card gallery. Its in a lot of them, and I never could figure out how to avoid it. Is there any reason you removed the "perrow" part? I really think a row of four cards looks better than a row of three and a row of one. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:14, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

No problem; it looks like the syntax has been copied between a lot of them without the people really understanding what it does. As for perrow, depending on the image size, number of images, and browser window width, it can force horizontal scrolling (particularly on the fixed-width Wikia skin). It's better to let the browser decide how many images should be displayed on one line, and to grin and bear it when the browser seemingly makes a bad choice (in such cases, you can probably blame the gallery extension before you blame the browser; in my experience the extension isn't as clean and well-tested as it should be). ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:20, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
That's exactly what I did, actually. Delt had done a few card galleries, and copied what he did and modified it for other galleries without really knowing how it worked, so there may be more errors in them too. Fair enough on the perrow issue, I'll leave it be and go ahead and fix the other galleries per your changes later. I'm actually working on a new one in another tab right now, so I'll fix that one up before I save it to. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:23, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
I went through and fixed all of the chapter card galleires per your fixes, with the exception of ruby card names. My knowledge of both kanji and wikicode is not sufficient for me to figure out that really works. Out of sheer curiosity, what is "!!" actually supposed to do in the table code besides screw up the spacing? Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 22:29, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
"!" at the beginning of a new line in wikitable markup indicates that a header cell should be generated. If you have more than one header cell in the same row, you can mark the end of the current cell and the beginning of a new one without moving to a new line with "!!" - for example:
{| class="wikitable"
! This is a header cell !! So is this
| This is a data cell || This too
results in
This is a header cell So is this
This is a data cell This too
Once you get the hang of it, {{Ruby}} replacement is pretty straightforward. The template requires two unnamed parameters; the first parameter is the base text and the second is the ruby text: {{Ruby|Base text|Ruby text}} --> Base textRuby text. This is the same as the code <ruby><rb>Base text</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Ruby text</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>: Base text(Ruby text).
When you're converting the latter to the former, the important things to look for are the <rb/> and <rt/> tags, which contain the base text and ruby text, respectively (<ruby/> is the "container" tag for the whole thing, and <rp/> contains text that is displayed when the browser doesn't support Ruby markup - the previous example will display as "Base text (Ruby text)" in Firefox and older versions of Internet Explorer, for instance).
There are cases where the Ruby markup will be more complicated, but these are relatively uncommon, and you can leave them alone and ask for help if you're not sure how to handle them. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:02, March 1, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, maybe I'll give it a try later. It's something else I can add to my list of things to do when I a edit a card article too. If I edit any given card article, I generally deploy the anime and manga appearances template if it's not there, and get rid of overlinking (which is rampant everywhere for some reason). So there's something else to add to that. Thanks. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 00:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yep. I actually started up my bot a few days ago to do some of this stuff... I got it auto-replacing Ruby markup with {{Ruby}} without any problems, and then immediately proceeded to bash my brains out over a regex bug in AWB which is currently stopping me from similarly auto-deploying the card appearances templates. =/ I've noticed the overlinking, but haven't really been doing anything with it myself; I don't think there'd be any simple way to automatically delink stuff if it's already been linked, so it'd be the type of thing I'd have to do manually. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:01, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
I was wondering why that wasn't being deployed quicker. Heh. And overlinking is a real pet peeve of mine. Other wikis seem to have underlinking problems. To me, overlinking looks really messy, and it's everywhere on this wiki some reason. Ultimately it's a minor thing, but my OCD disagrees with the rest of the brain. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 13:11, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
It's not so minor as you might think... ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:48, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I'm aware of that guideline, trust me. Getting rid of things like that encompassed a lot of my Wikipedia edits when I was active. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:12, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Heh, that makes sense (and I should have figured it)... ^_^ ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Something I've just noticed. Template:Decklist seems to be showing all three lists by default instead of hiding them. Also, to be sure my browser is right, ruby text should only appear in the Cardtable header, correct? I'm not seeing it where the actual "kanji" parameter is displayed when a page is saved, just in the header. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 19:32, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yep, that's a known issue; see Forum:Move away from Anime-Common.js and company?#Done. Correct, the ruby version of a card's Japanese name only appears in the card table header. Confusingly, the "kanji" parameter is what is used for the ruby name, whereas the "jpname" parameter is for the ruby-less kanji name (really, the Japanese name parameters need to be reworked, but updating all 7000+ transclusions would be one massive job). ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:00, March 2, 2011 (UTC)
Alright then. Yeah, that's excactly what was confusing me. I'm attempted to use the template at "Scrap-Iron Scarecrow" earlier, but I'm not sure what I did wrong. It's looked close when I edit preview, but one of the furigana was over the wrong kanji. I'm going to try again and save the page. See if you can tell me what I did wrong. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 00:02, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
You were close, but the first two kana shouldn't have been included in the template; I went ahead and fixed it for you. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

@Dinoguy1000 ya the info of were i got the new info on the Shonen Jump Cards can be found in the yugioh tcg news website same as any yugioh news info. —This unsigned comment was made by K20a (talkcontribs) 02:06, March 6, 2011

Exact or Extract

Oh happy hour, I lmao at your comment when I checked it out the change. How come I never realize that mistake you spot. I would think that's so funny if someone actually dead at the revenge they're creating? *roll my eyes* Oh well, thanks for give me some joy I never got in age. --FredCat 21:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, glad to see it gave you so much amusement. =D You might be surprised how many phrases like that there are in English that most people (including native English speakers!) get wrong (but then, it's probably the same for most any other language; I'd be very surprised, for instance, if someone told me that there are no easily-confusable gestures in ASL). ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:01, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
Usually, ASL would show an exact hand figures, we the deaf people would usually know which word that fit for them. But honestly, Extract is just not sound so right for revenge if they wanted one. But yes, we all are not perfect, I have seen many mistakes with my friends and companies as I went through my write career. --FredCat 13:17, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
So there aren't any figures/gestures that look quite similar to each other (and, thus, could potentially be confused for each other)? That's actually what I was getting at. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:19, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
Exact = Perfect, Specify
Extract = Dead
Therefore Exact ≠ Extract in ASL.
That's how I knew the difference in the sign language. --FredCat 18:21, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
Interesting... but I wasn't talking specifically about "exact" and "extract". >.> ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:24, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
I see, just ask me some more if you like to. Any kind of questions are good for me. ^_^ --FredCat 18:32, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
All right, perhaps my question would be better phrased as: are there any hand signs that you have trouble keeping straight? (this might be because they are very similar visually to each other, or because their meanings are very close, or anything else) If you do, chances are good that others have trouble with them as well, and would confirm my initial statement that I find it likely that even sign languages such as ASL have vocabulary that native speakers find easily confusable. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
That's good question... Only thing I remember seeing other civilians back in my E School (Class that below Middle School) was that they had trouble making a sign for "Pie" and "Pizza", since they both had almost exact same old ASL sign process (P-shape hand slice on the palm in X line) so I had to take over the "shop" to correct the shopper's understandable of which is which. But for now, Pie has same shape as "Stop" (open hand, thumb away, smashed on palm, but for Pie, just slice in V line on the palm instead) while Pizza has spelling Z twice (X-shape finger, shake in the air that following the Z way, quickly) to make it easier to understand them apart. --FredCat 18:53, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
Aah, cool. =) (I can't say I really understood your explanation of the signs, but that's more because I'm not familiar with ASL than that you didn't explain them very well) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:21, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
Indeed... good thing I learned and understood ASL as my primary language. --FredCat 10:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I wish I could've been raised bilingually myself (and, actually, my father was a polyglot; he seemed to have lacked the patience to teach me or my brothers any other languages, though =( ). I took some Spanish in high school, but not much of it wore off on me, admittedly... I do intend to try and learn some languages at some point, though, and it'd definitely be nice to look at ASL or another sign language at that time. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 11:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
Ah aw... your old man need some rest for himself, you can learn some various languages through sites or by the college, simple as a pie. --FredCat 11:40, March 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yep, I know. ;) I've actually been trying to pick up some Japanese from anime (perhaps not the best way to learn, though it is a great way to get used to how the spoken language sounds). It would help if I was somewhat more observant... =/ ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Possible template conflict

Weird issues at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Chapter 053, none of which were present before my previous edit. I replaced ruby code. Not sure if its the cause, but now Template:Chapter summary doesn't seem to be working and the "next" and "previous" infobox parameters are now displaying chapter links not by chapter name, but by number. Looking through my changes, I can't see what's wrong. Nothing seems to be amiss on the other pages either. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:55, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not your fault; Semantic MediaWiki was down (so was Negref, actually). And it's totally not my fault, either. XD *wonders how much more it'll take for a Wikia staffer to swing through and yell at me/us* At any rate, they're both back up (for now, at least), and a null edit fixed the appearance of the page. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:02, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's because of anything you did. SMW was also disabled on other wikis yesterday. -- Deltaneos (talk) 12:08, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
Well, the timing certainly didn't help. SMW went down pretty much immediately after I made that edit. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

exceed summon

How do you know that tokens cannot be used for exceed summon? —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) 20:19, March 17, 2011

It was confirmed in V Jump. When the information was added to Exceed Summon, Blackwings0605 linked in their edit summary to a scan of the page. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:04, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

GX's Future

So where would one find valid info about GX's future, at least the dub's future that is? --Dark Yugi (talkcontribs) 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Mainly, official announcements (press releases or blog posts on 4Kids' website, for instance) or comments made through official channels (such as their YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter pages). I think we'd also be fine with an email, if a wiki member known for their veracity were to state that they had received such an email. Really, that whole bit needs to be either given a source or simply removed; speculation and claims of "I emailed them and they told me this, even though I can't prove it and none of you have ever heard of me before, so no one can vouch for my honesty" don't have any place in mainspace articles. If no source is given after a couple more days, I'll probably remove it myself. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:29, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, so just check around those locations then? --Dark Yugi (talkcontribs) 00:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Pretty much, yeah. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:51, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Alrighty then, I'll take a look around. --Dark Yugi (talkcontribs) 17:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

water exceed deck

can you help me create a water deck based around exceed summoning? Posably using Superanchient deepseaking please. —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) 21:56, March 17, 2011

Hello, unfortunately I can't offer any help with decks. If you ask over in the deck help forum, someone there should be able to help you. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

exceed material monsters

Hi i have a question, on the exceed monster text it says about remove 1 exceed material monster, does that mean it goes to the graveyard or does it get removed from play? —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) 16:42, March 18, 2011

It's likely remove from play, as usually when a card specifies removing one in order to use it, the removed card is typically removed from play. --Dark Yugi (talkcontribs) 17:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Wrong, it's send to the Graveyard, if it said "Remove from Play" then it is removed from play. But if it said "remove", then it just going to Graveyard. Understand the ruling carefully, Dark-Yugi. --FredCat 17:53, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
FredCat has it right. According to Exceed Material Monster, "[w]hen an Exceed Material Monster stacked under an Exceed Monster is removed, it is sent to the Graveyard." ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:56, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Oops, my bad. That ruling is always a bit tricky for me to remember off-hand. --Dark Yugi (talkcontribs) 20:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Just don't get confused by that words, and just leave my comment alone as if Dino can understand what I am saying. --FredCat 20:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
I understand that you mean well by it, Evil Yugi, but it is generally best not to edit others' comments, even just to correct spelling or grammar, unless they've told you they don't mind (and if they have, you have to be very careful not to change their intended meaning). Usually, you probably won't get complaints for doing so, but some editors may take offense at it. The main exception for this might be correcting a redlink or something, though even in that case, you should probably explicitly tell the person exactly what you changed and why. ;) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:09, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh Black Duels

No deleting the Yu-Gi-Oh Black Duels page. I just want to create something on yu-gi-oh. —This unsigned comment was made by Gehan Master (talkcontribs) 23:39, March 20, 2011

You mean Shadow Cards? I wasn't the one who deleted that page; that would be PoirotH. Regardless, it doesn't matter who creates a page or what it's about; if the page doesn't fit the wiki's scope, or appears to be simply made-up (this includes fan-made cards and the like), it may be deleted at any time by any admin. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:28, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Decklist's bullets

In Template:Decklist and Template:Dice Pool when you use an unordered list in more than one of the collapsibles, the bullets in the first list appear as squares, but in any subsequent lists they appear as circles. Usually that makes monsters use squares and everything else use circles, but for a Spell and Trap only Decklist, the Spells will use squares and the Traps will use circles. Any idea what's causing this? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Examining the source of a transclusion, it looks like only the first section's list is being added to a <ul> list (the other sections just have "naked" <li> tags). I'm not sure how we could fix this, but it looks like a MediaWiki parser bug. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, adding newlines between the #ifs controlling whether the cells get added to the table fixed it... definitely a parser bug. =P ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:05, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

List of Monster Cards

Why are there Spells and Traps on this list? Flame Deity (talkcontribs) 03:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Because of "Medium::OCG||TCG" in the query. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:36, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Now it disappeared. Flame Deity (talkcontribs) 03:37, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
It should show back up after a while. I changed the values stored for a few properties in {{CardTable2}}, and until all affected pages are updated, that list (and others) will appear incomplete or just empty (on the other hand, lists that need to be updated will gradually list fewer cards until they are completely empty, unless someone updates them).
The main properties that are affected are Property:Card Type and Property:Monster Type; their values have been changed to be singular. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

original card images

Can I put cards like these on this site?
I know the rules, but I just need a way to work on a wiki safely. —This unsigned comment was made by LV.master (talkcontribs) 23:15, March 27, 2011

No, you are not allowed to upload fan-made cards on this wiki. If you like, though, you can upload them to the Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Maker Wiki, and link to them from this wiki (if you need help linking between wikis, I can help you out with it). ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm tired of being pushed around!

I can be blocked for 3 days, one month, but being called a moreon for images!
I am tired of this why do people dis. me on the web?
I don't know? But this is silly, talk to your bloggers and help them!
For the record, block me for 1 week and see if I care!!! —This unsigned comment was made by LV.master (talkcontribs) 00:27, March 28, 2011

If you don't want that whole chaos, just following the ruling and you will be fine. We barred all users from place the card image in their User Page and User Talk Page, so if you want to use that card image, use it somewhere other than "Wikia" site. For what I did, it was directly from OTHER site, which I can place the link that automatic change into image once I upload it on the non-exist article with my name post on. That's only permission I can do, is my own fiction card from other place. --FredCat 00:49, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
If you spend any amount of time on the internet, you need to be prepared for the possibility that other people will say things to - or about - you that you don't like. It's the nature of the medium, and ultimately, the only way to keep it from happening is to stay entirely offline (though even that isn't sufficient in some cases). That being said, there really isn't justification for calling you a "moron" for your behavior thus far.
I don't think you need a block, though you do need to understand:
  1. You cannot use card images on your user or user talk pages. This is because all cards are copyrighted and we do not have permission to reuse images of them, so whenever we do use them we must use them within the terms of fair use.
  2. If you have downloaded a card image from Wikia, chances are it was from this wiki, and so uploading it here just makes a duplicate file. We also have naming conventions for card images that should be followed when uploading them.
  3. As I said above, fan-made cards are not allowed on this wiki, though they are on the YCM wiki.
ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
And guess what, I still have my "fancards" in my own wikia pages HERE... Just look at my first link in my front article --THIS IS FREDCAT! JUST CHECK OUT THE NEXT SECTION FOR MORE TROUBLE!
I meant images of fan-made cards. All the same, though, if the only thing a given editor does here is edit a bunch of fan-made card pages in their userspace, I'd be inclined to warn them on it. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:56, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
Ah yes, but still copy and paste the link from other site still work? --FredCat 17:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
Yes. If you're wanting to add images to your own cards, though, {{CardTable2}} doesn't currently have card image support for the User: namespace, meaning you'll have to place the images outside the template. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:13, March 28, 2011 (UTC)


There are some things online administrators should know, at least in my opinion. between them, one particular applies to this situation. If dome1 took the time & effort to create that forum, and it didnt botter ANYONE that it was kept, then i dont c why it should be deleated, but if you do find a reason of why it should be done, then that is why talk pages exist, to discuss the ´´Life´´ of a page. Talk Pages are pages adjunted to the pages, that etc. ok if u suddenly deleated that page i bet it was because u didnt know what a talk page is, but if u do this again i'll just have to think its a reckless act that should recieve its apropiated treatment. Hope nothing so sudden happens again. Yes, im Pato (talkcontribs) 04:22, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Pato M, I assume you're talking about Forum:If you knew. I deleted the page because you stated that if you could delete it, you would ("ok, i get it, some of you don't like this forum, i'd delete it if i could, but i can't."). In addition, it was originally tagged for deletion on December 17, 2010, neither of the two subsequent edits removed the template, and it remained in place for ~100 days subsequently. As far as I can tell, there was also no discussion anywhere about keeping the page. I am willing to undelete it if you're that bothered about its deletion, but as I said in my deletion summary, I don't see anything in there particularly worth keeping. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Signature problem

The reason why I am asking you here, is that I accidentally "Reset" the Preferences on other Wikia, as I was trying to put back the Custom Signature that I removed without copied it. What was that link again? --FredCat100 (talkcontribs) 16:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

User:FredCat100/signature (and the code to add to the "Custom signature" field in your preferences would be {{subst:User:FredCat100/signature}} ;) ) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 16:58, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
There, I fixed it back to normal. Thanks for your haste answer. --FredCat 17:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
No problem. =) ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:14, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page tabview

I know you're not the ideal person to ask (no offense), but I haven't gotten any response from TOR. Do you think it's safe to re-add the tabview stuff to the Main Page? We have the finale of GX manga and 5D's anime and the beginning of the ZEXAL anime all around now, so it would be good if we could have the latest episode/chapter sections up. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but it's sorted now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:51, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
None taken. =) I would've probably suggested just re-adding it and seeing if anyone from Wikia complained. It may sound rather crass of me to say this, but our job is the content side of the wiki, whereas Wikia's is the maintenance side, and this was a case where Wikia's job was obstructing ours and we weren't getting any feedback. ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:59, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Emails Not Coming Through

(from,_2011#comm-290776 )

Hi, thanks for reporting this. What you're describing sounds like what we see when someone clicks "unsubscribe". The current bug is that it unsubscribes people from Everything, Forever, with no way to resubscribe. I just had an engineer manually clear any unsubscribe settings from your account, so it should start working again (please also check your email settings under "My Preferences" to make sure they are enabled). If a week goes by and you still don't see any emails, please submit a help ticket via Special:Contact, and include a link to this conversation. Thanks! --Dopp (help forum | blog) 18:09, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response; it seems to be working properly now (I got an email notification of your message). It's rather weird, though, I don't think I've ever clicked the "Unsubscribe" link in any of my email notifications... *shrug* ダイノガイ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know! (And that's concerning that you don't think you hit unsubscribe but received that behavior. I'll keep an eye out for more cases like that.) --Dopp (help forum | blog) 18:43, March 31, 2011 (UTC)