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Editing your MediaWiki:Common.css

Hi there! When you asked me to leave you a message "here on my talk page", I assumed you meant Community Central. But from the looks of it, you meant this page. I should have guessed immediately. The page at CC seemed so suspiciously empty. Ha :)

So, anyway, if you'd like me to try my bag of tricks on your MediaWiki:Common.css, make me an admin! Rest assured, I'll revoke my adminship when I'm done. I'm not one of those people who goes around collecting titles. That and I don't know the what Yu-Gi-Oh is :P —This unsigned comment was made by Pecoes (talkcontribs) 19:43, August 31, 2012

Hey Pecoes, unfortunately I'm not a bureaucrat, so I can't make you an admin myself, and in addition, I don't have the free time I thought I did, but I should be back in a couple of hours or so, if you could hang out until then... Sorry, and thanks for your offer! ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:52, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
If you're still around, I've got some time now to experiment more with this. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:12, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, right. I didn't check whether you're a crat or not. Okay. We'll try it by proxy then. Can you revert MediaWiki:Common.css to the @import I suggested?
(My timezone is UTC+1 btw ;) -- pecoes 04:40, September 01, 2012 (UTC)
Done. Also, one pretty important detail that I alluded to in my comments on the blog post but didn't come right out and say, is that I mainly use the Monobook skin rather than the Wikia skin, so it's possible this could be breaking in one skin but not the other. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:47, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
Try two things, please:
  1. change the capitalization of "MediaWiki:OldInfoboxStyle.css" to "MediaWiki:Oldinfoboxstyle.css" and
  2. remove the "&skin=oasis" bit from the URL:
pecoes 05:47, September 01, 2012 (UTC)
Done. It's still broken for me, though I didn't try particularly hard to bypass my browser's cache yet. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:50, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
I only tested MediaWiki:Diffs.css. It does seem to work under Oasis as well as under Monobook. Test again, please? And don't forget to purge and reload ;)
pecoes 06:03, September 01, 2012 (UTC)
After closing the site, doing other stuff, and coming back (in response to your message), it all seems to be working now. Thanks for your help! =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:10, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
Nice! I'm not quite done though. I'll have to file another bug report. MediaWiki:Oldinfoboxstyle.css does not exist. It's idiotic that the ResourceLoader doesn't accept the page's real name in its proper capitalization. *sigh*
pecoes 06:15, September 01, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I thought that was odd too. I hope to eventually get rid of our dependance on OldInfoboxStyle.css and Anime-Common.css so that we can delete the former and stop calling the latter, but that's a ways off (and it's our problem, not yours ;) ). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:21, September 1, 2012 (UTC)


So, y'know, for example, if a card supports specifically "Dark Magician", then the article of the card will have a "|support = Dark Magician". But, if I don't know that support card, but only "Dark Magician", is there a way so that I can search for "Dark Magician" support cards? (like we have lists by "card properties" and "Type support") LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 00:14, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

{{ #ask: [[Support::Dark Magician]] }} ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:52, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. ^^ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 01:03, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
If you'd rather not edit a page to get the list, there's also Special:SearchByProperty/Support/Dark Magician and Special:Ask?q=[[Support::Dark+Magician]]&eq=yes. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:05, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
I'm wondering if we shouldn't incorporate an automatic (anti-)support list for cards into the redesign... Currently, we aren't doing anything with that info when it only applies to individual cards, and most people don't know about using #ask et al. to discover the info, so it's not doing a whole lot of good at the moment. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:22, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
I had been thinking about taking one feature from the factbox and moving it into parts of the article. In the support categories, we'd have "Dark Magician" and hovering over the magnifying glass would change it to "", which would link to a query in either Special:SearchByProperty or Special:Ask. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:41, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

Question regarding Template:Decklist

Hi, I come from another wiki who is impressed by your Template:Decklist and I wish to ask exactly how exactly you made it. See we tried something similar with this but it seems to not work. Ricky Spanish (talkcontribs) 02:24, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Well, first it's important to keep in mind that I personally am not the one who created {{Decklist}}, though I have cleaned up its code and added some functionality. The general idea behind it is pretty simple, though: an outer, "wrapper" box, which contains three instances of {{Navbox}} (or your equivalent template of choice), one for each category of card (Monster, Spell/Magic, Trap). The Monster box can optionally be divided up into types of monsters (Normal, Effect, Fusion, etc.), and there are also optional count parameters for each of the card categories, but other than that, what I listed before is really all there is to it.
I can't really say anything about what might be wrong with your template unless you tell me what happens when you try to use it versus what you expect to happen (linking to an example usage would also help some), though I can say you'll have less to keep track of if you use HTML tags for the table instead of wikimarkup, since HTML doesn't have to be escaped to work properly with ParserFunctions (meaning you can lose all of the {{!}}, which will make the code much more readable). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:52, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
Well the thing is, we based ours off yours however, when you use it, the positions unbalance if one has more than the other. As for the HTML thing is that the markups dont work when used with another template, so we opted for wiki markupsRicky Spanish (talkcontribs) 21:56, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, now I see what your problem is. Unfortunately, without some really, really ugly ParserFunctions, there is no way to avoid this while using tables. I can code up a fix if you want, but it'll increase the size of the template immensely and make it a million times harder to see what's actually going on in the code (and thus, that much harder to make fixes or add features). I would instead encourage you to look at alternate ways of presenting that information, e.g. in the infobox or something. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:13, September 6, 2012 (UTC)


I insinuated that some users brand it was cowardly for the reasons outlined by Pato M, in that it doesn't give fair response notification to the other party. I'm not suggesting that it 'is' cowardly, only that some users see it that way. How you reply to articles is none of my concern personally, I only pointed out how some users perceive a certain behaviour.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 23:00, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Minor suggestion

So, yeah, minor suggestion, but maybe would it be good to have a " | cover =" option to add on the template for tankōbon volumes of the manga, where we put the characters and cards that appear on the cover? (e.g. for Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL - Volume 001, it'd be " | cover = Yuma Tsukumo, Astral"; for Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Volume 001, it'd be " | cover = Jaden Yuki, "Elemental HERO Terra Firma"). Just wondering. =)

AND, by the way, is it only for me that the "release date" of the volume articles of all manga series have a problem? They show "{{#negref: (date)|$s$|$ref$|$s$$ref$}}" instead of just the date... :/ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 01:17, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

That's one thing I was planning to add whenever I got around to creating {{Infobox volume}} as a replacement for whatever template we're currently using for volumes. ;) If you want it badly enough, though, I'm fine with adding it now instead of waiting, especially since I can't say when I might actually get around to working on that template.
I think it might be better to have separate parameters for characters versus monsters, but haven't given it that much thought, so there could be good reasons to use a single parameter instead.
That's because Negref is disabled (as it has been since we were upgraded to 1.19. Wikia has yet to make even an acknowledgement of that, as far as I know, so there's no word on when it might finally be fixed. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:39, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
No hurry actually, just an idea which passed through my mind.
I don't know if separating characters and cards is much needed. The cards are written between quotation marks after all, so they can be distinguished. But if you think it'd be better to make them separated, no problem. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 15:54, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Card Sets

What are the Card Sets namespace for? Should these two be deleted? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:32, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

  • That namespace is being repurposed for the Mobile project for pages, as a separate place to list the sets for cards, independent of the main page to save on bandwidth and size. They don't serve a purpose now, but they will.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 01:35, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
Would that make it redundant? Unless one will be transcluded into the other or something. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:07, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Galaxy navbox

Well, I would have done this myself, but I don't know how to, so I'm sending this message.

The Galaxy navbox needs Galaxy Wizard and Galaxy Knight cards listed. Can you add them? Energy X 19:47, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, it is showing up now. Sorry for bugging you. Energy X 19:51, September 9, 2012 (UTC)


What is with the giant influx of people questioning this recently? Talk:Photon Generator Unit. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:54, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


The generator unit is support i agree but for Cyber decks not for photons it seems to me like a logic flaw. Are you saying that the card as long as it support something is treated as part of the archetype even if the name is the only thing/link in common with the archetype while having no other relation with the archetype. --Veriteo (talkcontribs) 19:54, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Veriteo, it looks like Cheesedude has already given you a brief overview of how we handle archetypes, and linked you to a fuller explanation. If you still don't understand something, please feel free to ask; just keep in mind that the more specific you are, the better I'll be able to explain (and, hopefully, more to your satisfaction as well). Thanks! ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:14, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Dinoguy, I will need your help on becoming member of NAC

First of all, I'm Alper. And Neo Ark Cradle forum banned my country's all ip. So, I can't benefit access of NAC. For him, please can you talk to with Neo Ark Cradle's admin to unbanned my country's ip? İf you do it, I will be happy. Please connection with me. I need your help bro, and thanks. --Clock God (talkcontribs) 12:25, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Clock God, unfortunately I'm not sure how much help I could be. If Ark has blocked your entire country from NAC, there must be a reason for it. However, he does have a wiki account, and you can try leaving him a message on his talk page here. Good luck, and sorry I couldn't be more help! ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 12:33, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
It's not his entire country. It's called he's a nutter made of crazy. Also he's stalking me here: User talk:NeoArkadia I believe you guys know what the situation is here. 8| --NeoArkadia (talkcontribs) 13:11, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I am stalking him, just I want to become member of NAC, I everyday saw I'm becoming member of NAC in my dream. But it was never real. Ark hate me, every NAC users hate me. And I want to be member of NAC because of v-jump news. I swear for god I will not sent any post on there, so do you know my feelings. I'm actually autistic. But I can understand NeoArkadia, but he won't understand me. --Clock God (talkcontribs) 13:14, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

I find your mention of Autism an excuse. I know plenty of Autistic people. None of them acts like a morally empty scumbag like yourself who won't take a person's answer of "No" as final. And who goes to such mind bogglingly crazy extents to try and get a speed dial of me so you can harass me all day long as your personal translator.
Also, I hate you 'cuz you're a deranged stalker who WON'T LEAVE ME ALONE. --NeoArkadia (talkcontribs) 13:19, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


If I wanted to edit what characters appear in the portal on the main page, what page would I edit? I can't seem to find it. I do recall editing it in the past, I just don't know what the page was called... Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 04:26, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

The overall Tabber instance is in {{Cast}}, which calls a set of subtemplates, one for each series: {{Cast/Yu-Gi-Oh!}}, {{Cast/Yu-Gi-Oh! GX}}, {{Cast/Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's}}, and {{Cast/Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL}}. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:28, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 05:55, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Remade SVG Icons

They can be found at User:Falzar FZ/SVG. There is one problem though, and that is the WIND icon. If you look at the raw svg file, you can see that it looks awesome :P
but when you use it on a page, wikia converts it to a png, and it doesn't actually work very well. Thoughts on why that happens (when the EARTH icon using the same technique works fine)?
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:04, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Cool, I'll try to remember to switch to these later (unless Delt or someone else beats me to it). =)
Just out of curiosity, would you be willing to create OCG/TCG Attribute icons for the other official languages (French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Korean should do it, I think, unless other-language anime dubs also use localized icons)? This is something I've wanted for a while, but never got around to asking anybody for them. As far as naming, I think "ATTRIBUTE-LN.svg" (with the Attribute name in all-caps, and the language/region tag per the image policy) should work fine.
Not really; my only thought is that it's some sort of bug with the software Wikia uses to handle SVGs (Wikimedia uses Imagemagick, IIRC, but I don't know what Wikia uses). I'm not sure why the WIND icon would trigger it while the EARTH icon doesn't, though; I really don't know much about SVGs so I'm probably not the best person to ask, for once (gasp!). =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:14, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
If you provide a list of images to base them off, and a place to copy a typed version of the words in those languages.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:29, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Heh, I was afraid of that. =D I actually started collecting high-quality card scans/OP images a while back for exactly that, but never got very far. I'll have to pick it back up and see how many I can get for you. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:43, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Or I could use a list/table which shows the words in other languages, and assume that they use the same font as TCG.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 08:22, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
For the Normal Property icon, would you be okay with removing the "N", so that it's just a blank circular icon? As far as I know the "N" is never used officially and if I recall correctly in some video games when you filter cards by Property, "Normal" just uses a blank circle. That might need double checking though. Your SVGs are awesome, by the way. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:39, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
So File:Normal.png was custom made?
The page on Normal Spell Card, it says "some video games they use" the N version. So maybe it'll be useful somewhere.
So I'll move the N version to another page before uploading the blank one. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 23:37, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
I remembered that there are attribute icons in the rulebook, and there are rulebooks for most of those languages. I could base them off that, and they'd be close enough. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:05, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
I think that'd work fine, at least until (and, perhaps, even after) I get around to uploading PNGs taken directly from card scans. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 05:22, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
Done. The rulebook doesn't have DIVINE, so I just estimated those ones from Card Gallery:The Winged Dragon of Ra, so those ones need .png versions. JP also needs .png versions of each attribute.
Do you know where the PT and KR rulebooks are located?
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:01, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks for your work! =D
The relevant pages from the Korean rulebook are at [1]; the Portuguese rulebook will doubtless be considerably harder to come by. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:16, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
So KR one isn't a pdf, no wonder I couldn't find it. However, the images are too small to compare fonts. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:23, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
There are also Chinese versions of the LIGHT and DARK icons. They should be straightforward enough. They're the same as the other icons but with no annotation text. LIGHT: File:BlueEyesWhiteDragon-KA-TC-C.jpg, DARK: File:DarkMagician-WJ-TC-UR.jpg. -- Deltaneos (talk) 09:27, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
The size of the word is different as well. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 09:34, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
Might want to figure out what game the main Type images are from.
You could make the icons on each row the same size so they can be easily compared.
I copied GÖTTLICHKEIT from de:Attribut, now that I check it again, I find GOTTHEIT (but from the image, I see GOTTLICH)
There was one more thing I wanted to say, but I forgot what it was :/
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 00:54, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
I'm wondering if they're from DOR, though if that's the case, I don't know where the Psychic icon is from.
I thought about that, but the only way to reasonably do so would be to either stretch the PNGs (resulting in atrocious rendering) or shrink the SVGs, which in most cases would almost defeat the purpose since the PNGs are usually no larger than about 34 pixels to a side. Besides, not overriding the sizes also allows them to be compared on the basis of size, and provides an at-a-glance reference of which PNGs we could stand to have better versions of. ;)
From that, I found [2], which clearly shows it in the context of a printed card. Keeping in mind my German is next to nonexistent, I would say it's "GÖTTLICH", with the umlaut/dieresis.
Well, you know the drill, if you remember, ask away. =D ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:01, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
I remember now, it was Yu-Gi-Oh!:User page#Images on user pages. The png icons aren't free.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:04, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
I know. I was thinking about that before I created the page, but while actually working on it, it slipped my mind. I think I'll probably escape all the PNGs later, though I also think this particular case would have a very solid argument for ignoring the rules. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:09, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking that the solution would have been to move it to a Project: page.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:15, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
If we go by Wikipedia policy as precedent, non-free files also can't be used in project space, so we'd just be back to square one. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:24, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
We use plenty of images in the project pages that I was under the impression that you could... -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 01:28, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
That's probably more to do with the fact that we have been far more lax in the past in regards to non-free file usage. In addition, many of the pages in the Project namespace (Featured Card and Latest Set) are used as pseudo-articles and so should probably be treated as articles from the perspective of policy. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:39, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
If there are coloured images, do you know why we still use the b/w images?
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:16, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
The black and white ones were copied straight from the rulebook pdf, which was entirely in black and white. I wouldn't mind having colour versions. Although I think we don't have any images with colour Fire, Water, Wind or Wood icons currently uploaded for you to work with. -- Deltaneos (talk) 13:31, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
Unless we're missing some cards, there aren't any cards with those icons in existence. Also note that the same icon is colored differently depending on what scan you're looking at (for instance, Dark seems to trade off between black and dark blue); I don't know if there's any significance to this or even if it's not just an artifact of the scanning. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:22, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
Re-colouring is done very easily on SVGs so I could estimate them for now, or since they're not going to be used anyways, leave them until a card using it is available, I don't really mind either way. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:46, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and a question.

Hello, first I would like to thank you for protecting the Turtle Bird page.  However, that excessive vandalism makes me ask you something.  As much as I tried to undo edits, it was becoming too much, I was just lucky could get some help.  By any chance, could I get some sort of tool to help around the wiki?  Just something that would make undoing edits easier.  Thank you for your time. Evolution Is The Key 8:51 September 20, 2012

I've given you the rollback user right, which should help out in the future; it allows you to revert vandalism with a single click instead of two (though generally, you should only use it for obvious vandalism, since it doesn't allow you to change the edit summary). You can read a bit more at Project:Requests for rollback. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:24, September 20, 2012 (UTC)


I wish I could remember that one. What's the issue with the Kanji on it.--TwoTailedFox (My Talk Page) 21:39, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Featured videos

Hey Dinoguy, I'm using Wikia look and the Featured Videos have been bugging me ever since they were introduced. It's always the same few showing, and I have to scroll down past them if I want to see what new pictures have been added. Is there some way I could stop the Featured Videos from showing for me, say through some script/code? It seemed like everyone was in favor of taking that feature off the site, but nothing is being done and I'd just like a solution for myself. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 03:35, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Try as I might, I can't find a page with a Featured Videos module. They appear on the right side of articles, in the Wikia railbar, right? Can you link me to a page one appears (consistently) on for you? ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:56, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Decisive Power of Absolute Destiny, or any other card's main page. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 05:05, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
These perhaps? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 05:11, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Golden Key: I've tried on two different browsers and even a different computer, and still can't get a Featured Video to appear; I'm going to have to try on a different network entirely at some point if no one else answers your question first. =/ Alternately, you wouldn't be referring to the Related Videos module, would you? ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:35, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
That's what I assumed, when he mentioned "I have to scroll down past them if I want to see what new pictures have been added"
new pictures being "Latest Photos", and above that is "Related Videos". -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:38, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
If that is the case, the CSS used to hide it would be .RelatedVideosModule { display: none; }. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:44, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that is correct. I'm very basic when it comes to terminology, sorry about that.
My next dumb question is where do I put that CSS? In Upgrade Problems on the forum I saw about hiding related pages, that's how I figured there must be a way to hide videos too. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 12:28, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Your wikia.css. UltimateSupreme (talk contribs) 13:02, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
Thank you ever so much guys. --Golden Key (talkcontribs) 13:22, September 25, 2012 (UTC)


On monobook, if I want to see only the actual changes (the yellow and green stuff) and I don't want to see the "Line N:", "+" and "-" and the grey stuff, what css do I use? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 15:28, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

.diff-lineno, .diff-marker, .diff-context { display: none; } (you may have to add !important after the "none" (and before the semicolon!) to properly hide everything). ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:28, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
I wonder if you figured out what it was for.
It was mentioned at Talk:Yu-Gi-Oh! BAM#Card Table.
Here you go.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 04:15, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Aah, checking for new erratas on the card database, right? That's way too much to update by hand, though. =/ ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 06:20, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
It would have to be manual from here, in order to retain the links used in the lore and also quite a few aren't lore changes, they are errors on the lore we have here. They'll also have to create a list of actual erratas, not just errors.
If it were posted on the forum with a suggestion that people take sections (i.e. A-E, F-J, etc) and update/compile that, it's not actually a large task.
Though I probably won't be helping for a while, now that I have 2 largish assignments due in 5 days. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 06:53, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Aah, well, your assignments obviously take priority over anything going on here. ;)
For that, the formatting will have to be cleaned up: card names should be linked, the name/lore pairs need to be separated somehow so they aren't just an impenetrable wall of text, changed lores should be marked somehow, headers should be added at appropriate intervals to visually break up the list and simplify navigation, and the whole thing needs split across several, much more sanely sized pages; this all needs to be done before we look at recruiting help. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 08:11, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Magic the Gathering

Apologize to making this offtopic (away from Yu-Gi-Oh!), do you have knowledge on Magic the Gathering, no? --iFredCat 16:53, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have friends that play, but I personally have never gotten much into it, so there's a lot of the rules that I don't understand. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 18:36, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
I see, there are allot of words I still don't understand, like "Can't be Regeneration" or "Transformation" without target name. I just now realized that "Entering the Battlefield" was treated as "Summon" in Yu-Gi-Oh! word when I studied "Contagion Clasp", which is just an Artifact (not a Creature). At the first time when I read "Entering the Battlefield", I thought it meant for "enter the Battle Phase" pattern. But thanks to this Artifact, I changed. So guess your buddy should come here and explaining to me all those words' meaning. --iFredCat 18:55, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Heh, yeah, I've noticed the similarities between YGO and MtG. As for learning it better yourself, I think knowing someone in real life who plays would be better than trying to instruct you over the internet, though there is the issue of finding an MtG player that knows ASL (or finding someone that can translate who is undaunted by the terminology). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:22, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
But hey, that part took me several months to notice (absent or take vacation from Magic don't counting) how it work. "Soulbond" was instant - all I had to overlaying 1 creature over the other if one of them have "Soulbond" within their lore. Many words are easier to understand, but "Can't Regeneration" or "Transformation", I am still not quite grasping the purpose of them being doing that. Exile is apparently, Target is also clearly, but... --iFredCat 19:31, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Have you tried Googling for information at all? For instance, google:magic the gathering regeneration turns up wikia:c:mtg:Regeneration (Ability), and google:magic the gathering transformation turns up wikia:c:mtg:Transform; I'm sure there are plenty of other resources that would explain these concepts pretty clearly, that can be found just by looking through more results or tweaking the search queries. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:29, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
I see, Regeneration is another ability... just like Lifelink, which build up the player's Life Points for each time it attacked (damage). So lemme get the "Transform" straight - it's a double side card that changing it look from human into beast style (giant wolf, bear, vampire, etc.)? --iFredCat 22:08, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
I guess... I didn't actually look very closely at those links. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:14, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
It's alright, I will understand once I get my hand on those cards... as they never physical showed it double side or not. Thank you for your helps. --iFredCat 22:49, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


Which kind of English is used here → British or American? UltimateSupreme (talk contribs) 09:44, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

American. See also: The manual of style.
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 11:46, September 28, 2012 (UTC)
Thanx a lot !! UltimateSupreme (talk contribs) 12:08, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Capital or lowercase

Gotcha, I am aware of that - I just said that it was naturally to using the letter "L" as lowercase when come with full word, like "Steelswarm". It's like a starting letter of the word of the sentence sense - Lswarm!
Like, "Lswarm, run!" don't mean that it's such to be -lswarm or shit. --iFredCat 22:15, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, archetype names are proper nouns, so they don't precisely follow the general capitalization rules for English text. In addition, we follow the capitalization for proper nouns set out in official media, so if an archetype name is consistently rendered in lowercase, we should also do so, even if it appears at the beginning of a sentence. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:39, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Template:Navigation doubt

TCG/OCG cards = {{Navigation}}, anime/manga only cards = {{Navigation2}} or {{Navigation|mode=nonGame}}, Tokens = {{Navigation3}} or {{Navigation|mode=token}}. ...So what kinda Navigation do Tag Force-only cards have? Is there a "Navigation4"? :P LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 01:32, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

As I've said a number of times elsewhere, {{Navigation2}} and {{Navigation3}} are intended only to be substituted, as a shorthand for {{Navigation}}.
Per its documentation, {{Navigation3}} is equivalent to {{Navigation|mode=otherGame}}, and is used for Bandai, DDM, and VG-only cards; there is no shorthand for mode=token. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:40, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, so actually Navigation3 is for other games, and Navigation|mode=token}} doesn't have a shorthand? Ooooookay, good to know this before I put "Navigation3" in Token pages. xD Thanks for clarifying it. LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 16:19, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
Right. Like I said before, though, the shorthand templates are supposed to be substituted, so e.g. {{Navigation|mode=otherGame]] should not be replaced with {{Navigation3}} (if you're creating a page, though, using e.g. {{subst:Navigation3}} is fine). ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:01, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Navbox spaces

The spaces on Template:Gameplay seem to be off whenever ** is used. It says don't edit it so I'll leave it to you. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 02:39, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

You mean how there's a space after the opening parenthesis and before the closing parenthesis? That's a bug with the hlist class caused by us not having HTML Tidy enabled; I don't know if there's any way to fix it. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:36, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
Missing space before the opening parenthesis and it'll be what it is.
Why not just use * [[Equip Card|Equip]] ([[Equip Trap Card|Trap]]) instead of * [[Equip Card|Equip]] ** [[Equip Trap Card|Trap]]?
-Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 03:53, September 30, 2012 (UTC)
Semantics and accessibility (though that doesn't sound like much of a reason, I know ;) ). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:14, September 30, 2012 (UTC)