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Glitch with videogame Booster Pack templates

Although the videogame booster packs for "Winged Dragon, Guardian of the Fortress 1" are listed in order of release on the edit page, it is not so on the actual card page. This only applies to "Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Tag Force" and "Yu-Gi-Oh! GX Spirit Caller", I think. I don't know how far this glitch extends (by this, I mean idk if this also applies for the card lores of those games). Can we fix it? --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 04:02, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Are you talking about the ordering of the games themselves? That's always been a bit wacky, and has never been particularly high on my list of things to fix/tweak; at this point I have no plans whatsoever to fix it, since {{CardTable2}} is going away hopefully within the next few months anyways. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:30, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I was talking about that. I guess I'll just leave it alone then. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 15:18, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, we need to establish and ordering system for the new CardTable. That's always bugged me. I would say we should just go by release dates, but there's also the matter of the Tag Force and World Championship games. It may be preferred to group all of those together. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 21:35, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
That's the plan; TF, WC, DM, True Duel Monsters and maybe one or two other game series (depending on what I can figure out as I develop the templates) are going to be grouped, e.g. {{TF card article}} and {{DM card}}. Considering there have been almost 50 YGO-related video games released, many of which have been released in multiple languages, this is really the only sane way of handling it. I haven't given a great deal of thought to ordering yet, but probably as close to ordering by release date as we can reasonably get given how they'll be combined will be the route we'll take. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:25, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

So are we just waiting until the new card article layout is rolled out to add a template for Greek and Croatian lores? --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 21:51, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Basically. I don't know how closely you've ever looked, but unlike for card names, the only parameters CT2 has for card lores correspond to the languages/regions the OCG and TCG have been released in: Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Asian-English, English, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish. Of course, this hasn't stopped people from using other language lore parameters as though they exist; I've seen a number of Thai lore parameters while editing, for instance.
That being said, the way we handle such information is going to change somewhat in the redesign: each language is getting its own tab, which means we have to control the number of tabs; to do that, we have to limit the languages to only those with official releases. So, for instance, for an OCG/TCG card, the available tabs are limited to the above list, and the used tabs for any given card are further constrained to those languages/regions that specific card has been released in. Unofficial/alternate translations of names and lores will instead be added in dedicated sections on each page, in a table allowing a certain amount of context to be provided for each one.
Now, if you know anything about the anime/manga, you'll know that they've been released in a ridiculous number of languages so far (and there are a number of problems with getting information on the releases, not least of which is simply confirming their existence most of the time!). In addition, my understanding is that many of the language releases of the anime are based on the edited English dub, which means there's nothing to visually identify the language - or the card's name in that language - on the cards shown; these problems are the main reasons I haven't started on {{Anime card}} or {{Manga card}}; I simply can't come up with any good way of working around them.
ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:03, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Code Error

Just to let you know that the code in this article has displaying a red link of "Ambox small" or something like that... Care to fixing it if you can? --iFredCat 15:23, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Ambox template

{{Ambox/small}} seems to no longer exist for some reason, which has broken every occurrence of {{incomplete}}. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:37, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

That's what I was asking... need to clean them up and let ATEM know about this reason. --iFredCat 18:39, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
It was caused by an update to {{Ambox}}. Prior to that, {{Ambox/small}} wasn't used, and wasn't needed; Delt copied it here from Wikipedia and everything appears to be working properly now. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:38, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Video Game Guide

It seems a shame to see all that effort go to waste. I would be pretty annoyed if I was that anon. Can't you create a sub-page and put the stuff on there (and maybe correct it grammatically)? And yes, even though it is a very old game, it would still be nice to have more information on it. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 04:10, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

A subpage isn't the place for it to go (at least, not a subpage of that page); the best place for it would be on Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories Gameplay. As for "all that effort", you said it yourself: FMR is a very old game, and I have my doubts as to whether anon actually researched and wrote up that information themselves; more likely is that it was copied and adapted from somewhere else. In any case, it's still all right there in the page history, so anyone who wants to salvage it and clean it up is more than welcome to (though they'll need to be mindful of attribution, which is another reason I just removed it instead of trying to do something with it). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 04:33, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Cosmo Blazar SE

I had to revert your edition in order to revert the older one aswell, since the structure of the page was taking the "fake" pic as real and posting the names of the supposed promos as if they were confirmed, when they are not. I don't really know when the info linked is hosted to change it, so I had to remove the structure to do it, and that included your part because it had been added later. Menschy (talkcontribs) 07:35, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Aah, fair enough, don't worry about my complaint then. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 07:41, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Clock Gods comment note

Agreed. I just didn't want to come off as randomly removing someones comment for no reason, though my summery covers it. Shardsilver (talkcontribs) 01:40, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Four Element/Six Attribute Demoted!

Wasn't (talk contribs) just confirmed the bad news - do you want those articles to go? Go and have an argument with Sénior D to keep those articles from removing off the Wikia. --iFredCat 14:50, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I saw Master D's tagging of the Six Attributes article. To be honest, I really don't know whether articles on them are justified or not; we'll just have to wait and see what sorts of comments the deletion tags garner. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 21:57, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Well, if those articles had to go, then we should create an article for those four super form of Charmer; aka "<Anger word here> <Name here>" (BlAvRaSt) --iFredCat 21:59, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
They really need an article regardless; the problem is that, since there is no commonality in their names, I have no idea what it would be called. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:51, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
My thought exact same... How about "Tribute Charmer"? I know that's sound little oddly since "Charmer" was already exist, but still... Oh, "Element Tributer".. hmm... no, Double-Tribute Element has taken that spot... *scratch my head* Guess I need some more special oil to clean out my rusty gear in my instinct system some more. --iFredCat 22:55, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
And also I just realized something that Charmer's designer had bring up... No wonder why all original "Charmer" were female at first place... *seriouslyface* --iFredCat 23:00, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
I dunno, that's a pretty tenuous conclusion. Any such connection would also have to hold in their Japanese names, but I don't know enough Japanese to be able to say whether it does or not; at any rate, it strikes me as the same sort of seeing-patterns-where-there-is-none that happened with the Numbers when people started doing all sorts of convoluted mathematics and whatnot to derive the number from the card's name. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:06, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Guess it's time to bring up a discuss in Forum so it will replacing Four Elements article later on. You alright with that? --iFredCat 23:10, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, go for it. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:11, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Here, I don't know if I placed it in right group, if I am wrong - just change the box. Thank you for the chitchat! --iFredCat 23:25, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


Maybe this has been brought up before, but is there any way to fix the errata pages of cards so they don't need a "resize" box to be fully viewable? I ask this because according to FredCat, bold/italicize words can't be viewed in the resize box. I'm assuming the words can be colored in the re-size box, but that is a no-go, since there could be color-blind people viewing the site. Intuitively, I think there should be a simple solution. Or is this an issue that will be addressed with the new formatting of the site? --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 20:49, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Don't make me headbutt you over the universe. It's not box viewable; it's multiple boxes that is a problem - I can only handle up to 3 or 4 boxes with Bold between first and second change while italic on the second to the third change as well as bold/italic (combine) on third to fourth change; rest are burdening on the color/underline (which not workable in this way). --iFredCat 21:42, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Making the bold and italics appear in the popout is an easy fix. We just need to add two lines to MediaWiki:Wikia.css. Although, I think Dinoguy has some different plans using <ins> and <del> to denote text which has been added and removed respectively, which would also make it easier for machines to understand what's being done.
If we want to set it so that we don't need to click on the popup to see the whole table, we just need to change the table, so that only three prints appear in each line. That should be easier now that they're ordered from oldest to newest instead of newest to oldest. -- Deltaneos (talk) 21:56, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I would love if you didn't have to click on the pop-up window. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 21:58, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
(EDIT CONFFFFLICT) Of course, it went smoother that way. But what if there is a card that never "delete" or "add" a line at all? That sure can pissing someone off if tried to using the certain process to make it work out perfectly. Damn that bast-* --iFredCat 21:59, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
The basic idea here is to use <ins/> to mark up text that gets added from one erratum to the next and <del/> to mark up text that gets removed from one erratum to the next. These tags are semantic, which is a fancy way of saying they help machines understand what's going on (like Delt said above), and they are automatically styled in most browsers - inserted text deleted text. For text that simply changes between errata, without any real insertion or deletion, the old method of using bold and italics to mark the changes should continue to be used.
Multi-row support is very straightforward to add; the only reason I haven't yet is because I've been holding out hope that I'd stumble across some method I could use to allow each card entry to wrap as it wants, while preserving row heights across all the entries. Realistically, though, I know there's probably no such method, so I guess I should just go ahead and add this (though it looks like it'll have to wait a bit =/ ). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:16, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
ins has its text-decoration reset in the default skin, so it doesn't have its underline in your above message.
I switched Card Errata:Exchange to ins and del, which are more stylised for errata tables. There's a problem with lore3 however, which is also present with the bold and italics method. There's the line
<ins>Each player looks at</ins> their <ins>opponent's hand, chooses 1 card in it</ins>
The portion "Each player looks at their opponent's hand, chooses" gets deleted in the next revision. But in this case it's syntactically incorrect to put a del tag at the beginning and end of the removed bit.
<del><ins>Each player looks at</ins> their <ins>opponent's hand, chooses</del> 1 card <del>in it</del></ins>
The tags are not nested properly and unless your browser is very smart, the page will break. To fix it, we need to use something like:
<del><ins>Each player looks at</ins> their <ins>opponent's hand, chooses</ins></del><ins> 1 card <del>in it</del></ins>
But that's not exactly correct either, since it implies there are three insertions, rather than two. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:21, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Delta, can you try non-linked red color instead of pink, it's little hard to read with all those in yellow background. --iFredCat 15:24, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. Is there a different shade of red you think would should use though? If we make it too close to the broken link colour, people could mistake the text for links. I was originally going to make it grey, but it would look too much like the colour of unchanged lores. If you think the background colour of the inserted text should be different or not used at all, please say so. -- Deltaneos (talk) 15:42, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
How about dark color, so it can be easier to read - like green or blue (that can be mistake as link...) or brown? Hmm... Purple? Omg, why you, Wario...
DINOOOO, ARCHIVED UP YOUR UNUSED TOPICS! --iFredCat 15:47, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
The page is too hard to read now \=, why we didn't use underline to point the text that will be changed, and use Bold to point the change text, if any text will be removed without change we use delete on it, and if any new text is added we use Bold Italic on it.
btw, Italic text is too hard to see, specifically when I use it on ( . ) and ( : ). --Dlamash (talkcontribs) 16:19, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Those are what I am using since I started my career. And that's only in Errata Box 3 and Errata Box 4. Too slow, Dlamash. --iFredCat 17:17, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
<u></u> is technically only meant to be used on text that should be underlined typographically, such as to indicate misspelled words or Chinese proper nouns. Although, there are other ways we can add underlines. <ins></ins> and <del></del> are used specifically for indicating text which has been changed. However we can style them to look however we want.
I think our biggest problem isn't how we denote the changes. I think it's having them overlap is the problem. Comparing more than two lores at a time is too messy. Comparing them one at a time works with a lot of things.
  Old lore New lore
del and ins
Change 1 Both players show their hands to each other. You both select 1 card from each other's hand and add it to your own. When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are placed in the Graveyard of the original owner. Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.)
Change 2 Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.) Each player looks at their opponent's hand, chooses 1 card in it and adds it to their own hand.
del and ins
Change 1 Both players show their hands to each other. You both select 1 card from each other's hand and add it to your own. When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are placed in the Graveyard of the original owner. Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.)
Change 2 Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.) Each player looks at their opponent's hand, chooses 1 card in it and adds it to their own hand.
del and ins
Change 1 Both players show their hands to each other. You both select 1 card from each other's hand and add it to your own. When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are placed in the Graveyard of the original owner. Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.)
Change 2 Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card from each other's hand. Add the selected card to your hand and you can use it in this Duel. (When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.) Each player looks at their opponent's hand, chooses 1 card in it and adds it to their own hand.
I don't think there's any neat way of merging change 1's new lore with change 2's old lore. -- Deltaneos (talk) 17:21, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Look better than before... but what about 3 or more changes? Gotta think outside the box, good Admin. --iFredCat 17:22, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't suggesting that as a new format. It was just to demonstrate how much easier it is when you make one comparison at a time. Doing it that way, would involve a lot of repetition. I don't know how keen I am on that. Incidentally, three or more changes wouldn't be a problem with the above. Just add change 3, change 4, etc. rows. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:20, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Arbitrary break

(reset indent)
Sorry about the delay in answering; I was busy yesterday and didn't have the time to properly think through my response(s).
I really don't like the red coloring <del/> has in the errata table now; why isn't just having it strike out text sufficient?
<ins/> and <del/> as used on Card Errata:Exchange isn't the way I had in mind: for instance, the first marked-up change, "Both players show their hands to each other. You both select 1 card" → "Both players show their hands to each other and select 1 card", isn't really a straightforward case of text being deleted and inserted, but rather of it being changed; this just happens to be achieved by deleting the old text and inserting the new, and if I were the one marking up the errata changes, I would mark that particular change up using bold or italics. I had imagined <ins/> being used specifically for new text added after the previous erratum, and <del/> for old text removed in the next erratum (for example, I would mark up the text "(When the cards are sent to the Graveyard, they are sent to the Graveyard of the original owner.)" from the second "Exchange" erratum with a <del/>).
I really really like the idea of comparing only two errata at a time; it would potentially allow us to play around with the overall table structure in some interesting ways (primarily related to image placement). The main problem would be how to properly mark up the lores: in order to have them properly marked up for the comparisons, it would probably require each lore to be entered twice, once for the comparison with the previous erratum lore, and once for the next (I was thinking about ways we could potentially handle separating the markup for both situations from a single entry, thus not requiring any changes for the vast majority of Card Errata pages, but I don't think that would be feasible). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:42, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Yo, Delta, when I started to work on Errata Table after "Ante", it started to stop working in the way it was such to be. Some site glitch occurred? --iFredCat 12:19, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
It looks like there's a few mismatches on that page. Every opening <ins> needs a closing </ins> and every opening <del> needs a closing </del>. That page has 8 <ins>, but 10 </ins> and 14 <del>, but only 13 </del>.
Maybe we should make templates {{ins}} and {{del}}, so users don't need to know HTML to edit. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
I like the Idea of entering the same lore twice, if there is a way of doing this it will be useful. --Dlamash (talkcontribs) 15:28, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
@Delta, Other flaw - the dash is crossed, make it harder to identity through that. Any solution to prevent that from happening? --iFredCat 16:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
I see what you mean. Unfortunately, I can't think of any ways of making it easier to notice, right now. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
FredCat, let me restate (again): I did not intend for <del/> and <ins/> to be wholesale replacements for the existing bolding and italics used on Card Errata pages, but only for straight-up deletions and insertions. For instance, your usage of <ins/> on Card Errata:A Cat of Ill Omen is exactly what I was thinking, whereas your usage of the tags on most of the other Card Errata pages you've edited are not. If you'd like a concrete example of what I mean, you can link me to a Card Errata page (or more than one) and I'll update it to demonstrate what I'm saying here. ;)
Dlamash: If there is editor interest in switching to such a format, I'd fully support it myself (since Delt pointed it out, I've actually grown to like it quite a bit more than the current method). Could we get other regular Card Errata editors (are there any, really?) to have a look and give their thoughts? ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:22, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Well, that's only "addition" word. There are nothing to deleting out of the first lore. I had done that three times afterward.. so have fun find them (they are easily to spot, just look at summary - "There's nothing to delete."). Just to be nice and helped you saving the time look all over many errata table I had done lately. If you don't like it, just go and change it yourself. --iFredCat 23:28, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
I made up my mind to loyal you - I decided to using "Bold" in the place of "Del" tags. Until Delta get back and have some discuss with you, I stay with this choice. --iFredCat 23:44, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Card Errata:8-Claws Scorpion has a very good mixture of change types; if you still have questions about what I'm getting at, feel free to ask. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:54, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Thought you don't like "Del" idea? --iFredCat 23:57, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
No, as I said above, I only intended <del/> to be used for text which is removed from one erratum to the next. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:10, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, what about multiple reprinted one, like "Apprentice Magician"? It has many change (spamming on of, whatever in same place.) --iFredCat 00:16, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
You just have to work through it one errata pair at a time.
On a related note, this one really helped drive home to me how much clearer presenting errata in pairs (i.e. what Delt showed above) would be over the current methods; trying to juggle two sets of changes in a single lore entry is incredibly confusing for editors, and must be even more so for readers. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:55, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Seemed like it's much understandable to using them in the various ways... Guess I need to relearn the hard way- again! --iFredCat 01:02, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Second Arbitrary break

(Indent Reset)
What do you think? --iFredCat 17:46, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

You're definitely getting it, Fred, I've made some tweaks to bring it in line with what I've been saying here. ;)
Note that the very first change ("By discarding this card" → "During either player's turn, you can discard this card") is a bit of a border case; I can see arguments for using either <del/>/<ins/> or bolding to mark it up, or a mixture as is currently done. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:03, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Well, that's why I am "top student"... Mold bad pun beside, I need to learn some more prepare like you, sensei. --iFredCat 23:42, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
Am I doing alright? --iFredCat 16:07, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Still not quite. ;) It might help if you remember that bold/italics should be used when text changes - i.e. its position stays the same, but the specific words used change, for instance when a phrase is replaced (so the change "remove from play" --> "banish" would use bold/italics, for example). ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 22:33, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Easily say than doing it. Alright, I can try to remember that next time I stumbled into old looks. --iFredCat 23:21, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
As to prevent myself from trying to add in PSCT (Unofficial) version on the cards that yet to be printed, I finally get the table fixed up (with help of Delta) and put them in uses. However, for second Table, it will be on the hold until I get back. So if you see anything, just message me on my talk page (should be new topic because it's nearly not relate to the issues with up above). If you wanna know, just check my contrib link (last letter of my User Name) and click on "New Errata" link, which should be right below of the edit that I respond to you here. Happy Edit! --iFredCat 14:30, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Protection Page

Since I am no Admin like you, can you please protect Artorigus, King of the Noble Knights? It had been vandalism once and deleted once... --iFredCat 02:44, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Done; it expires on January 19 (the date of the English CBLZ Sneak Peek event), but the protection should be lifted whenever we get actual info on the card rather than just letting it expire on its own. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 02:49, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your time :-) --iFredCat 02:57, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Your abode is underneath a rock?

Yeah, "Artorigus, King of the Noble Knights" is real. See this and that for proof. Idk if what was on the page already was vandalism though. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 02:54, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm aware it's real, but we don't know much of anything specific about it beyond that it seems to be an Xyz. If someone really wants to create its page based on just that information, and risk waves of subsequent speculation prior to getting more confirmed details, they can have at it, but I'd just as soon wait for more info myself. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 03:16, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Kuriboh, is it Effect Monster? Is it Xyz Monster? Or is it just some special monster? If all answers are no, then we can't create it with strong stilt and support. And that's that. Same reason why we are waiting for the episode to air before we can create "Hope Ray V" (other ridiculous name) base on that of the episode's name. --iFredCat 03:18, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Cite error

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Delt got it. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:17, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
He must looked it over while visited this talk page... it's good to have a friend who knew how to get all stuff works. I am still waiting for him to respond back on his own talk page (the one before Clock God gone clocked.) --iFredCat 23:19, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
I think he's gone offline for the evening, so you may have to wait until tomorrow. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:25, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Lucky for him, though hardship with you both among Falzar, Cheesy, Goldy and few hard-headed Admins, I gained more patience and had allot of thing to do, such as now errata-tabling around with Delta's own toy. --iFredCat 23:30, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Plus and Minus

Per Talk:Plus monster, I added Plus and Minus monster sub-types in CardTable2. Plus works fine, but I could not get Minus to link properly without redirecting Minus Monster to Minus monster. I don't know where I went wrong in the code. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 20:20, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

It's only happening on "Conduction Warrior Linear Magnum Plus Minus", where it is set as type3. It lowercases the "m" on the other Minus pages. The template has been set to always use a capital "m" for type3, since the days when it was only used for Effect. We didn't think to change it after Tuner monsters began taking that spot too. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:38, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, may as well wait until we have confirmation of "Plus Minus" then. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 20:42, January 14, 2013 (UTC)


Have you any idea how we might handle prefixes for sets that have more than one per region; one of E, F, [blank], P, I, G, S and one of EN, FR, EN, PT, IT, DE, SP respectively. It's a bit messy here. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:38, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'd have had more vocabulary, had I thought to include A to EN. -- Deltaneos (talk) 00:41, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
I suppose the most transparent method from the perspective of editors would be allowing for lists of prefixes as you used there, though the code to handle it may not turn out too pretty given how the set prefix stuff is currently coded. That objection aside, though, thinking about it, that seems to be the only real choice we would have; everything else I could think of doing would have additional complications for both editors and us as template coders. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 00:54, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Distant summonings

User talk:Look234#SJ subscription. Could you grace us with your presence perchance? -- Deltaneos (talk) 22:17, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Also, following up from User talk:Jump Enemy#"黒魔導士", "B・M" and "Be・W・D", Jump Enemy and say that those cards are from Weekly Jump 2000 #1 and 2001 #27. I'm having difficulty finding scans of the covers of those issues. Are you able to find them? -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:28, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

I pointed you to this resource months ago when I found it. ;)
More specifically, 2000 #1 and 2001 #27. Neither issue shows a card - or anything else YGO-related - in its cover art, but the latter features some text in the lower right-hand corner that mentions the OCG. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 01:08, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
I had that site bookmarked, just not in this system. I was struggling to find it again.
It says something about a super gift (スーパープレゼント), which seems to correspond with what is saying. -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:51, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Judgment of the Light

Any source on the Judgment of the Light set card list ? --Veriteo (talkcontribs) 18:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, per [1] and the post under it (in the event you don't have an NAC account, that's someone asking the same question, followed by Ark dashing their hopes). I'll wipe the info here, if no one else's done it yet. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:15, January 22, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Dino, it's AsariUgetsu here. *__* I've logged out 'cause of this (the end of the post) and now I can't log back in. I forgot my password ^^' and I was sent a temporary password via e-mail, and when I log in with it, it asks me to pick a new password, but every time I do so, it asks me to log in again, and I keep getting looped like this. :/ I think Wikia's trolling me. xD Any idea of what's going on? :P (talk) 00:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

R u sure u copied/pasted same PW from ur E-mail to here? --iFredCat 00:21, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yep. I tried many times, and even tried typing it manually. :P Although I do log in normally, it's just when I have to change the password that I go back to square one. :P (talk) 00:36, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Then it must be little glitch in the site, just bear with it until it's back on the feet. --iFredCat 00:46, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
*bangs on glass window separating us* AsariUgetsu!... No! You are so close, and yet seem so far... (You: *splat*) --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 00:50, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Well, don't get losing in one path of the two... --iFredCat 01:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, Kuriboh, you came... So this crap really works! Although I'm afraid we'll never more be able to see each oth- (*crash*) Dafuq? Lol, this is thinner than it looks. Yay, I'm free! Let's celebrate!
Oh wait. F**k, never mind. (talk) 01:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Guess someone tripped over the set trap! --iFredCat 01:17, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Tch, looks like we're in a tight spot here. Hurry, call the staff. (talk) 01:29, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
If you copy this "chrome://settings/content#cookies" into the address bar on Chrome, have you "Allow local data to be set (recommended)" selected and "Block third-party cookies and site data" unchecked? -- Deltaneos (talk) 01:31, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, right, we were trying to resolve the problem with my acc. xD Yeah, I do have the first one selected and the second one unchecked. It still leads to the same result. I tried checking the second one as well and trying again, but same thing again. (talk) 01:38, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Seemed like your call was answered. He arrived just after you activated it. --iFredCat 01:45, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, but that was no dice. He's still stuck in that situation. --UltimateKuriboh (talkcontribs) 01:48, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
How frustrating... I wonder if we'll need more help... Oh, maybe with something bigger someone appears to save me? (talk) 01:53, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I am wondering if they can jamming the conflict through virus to get rids of block. --iFredCat 02:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good, although I'm afraid some viruses may be a bit dangerous... We should talk to some expert, or we may end up injured... (talk) 02:07, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Have you tried completely clearing Chrome's cache and cookies? The error message makes it sound like there's an old session cookie or something.
If that doesn't help, really the only thing I can tell you to do is to contact Wikia; I believe their support email address is You'll want to mention the name of your Wikia account and link to this discussion.
Lastly, in the future when you're messing with your cookies, I'd recommend the Chrome extension Edit This Cookie. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 09:55, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Just to be sure, you mean, by pressing Crtl + Alt + Del, marking the options "Clear cache" and "Delete cookies and other site and plug-in data" (or something like that), and pressing "Clear navigation data"(or something like that), with the option "from the beginning"? If so, it doesn't work either. :P I'll try contacting the Wikia support then, thanks for the help. (talk) 15:19, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
You meant Ctrl+ Shift+Del; the three-finger salute won't get you anywhere in Chrome. ;)
Personally, I get to it via "Settings" in the "Customize and control Google Chrome" dropdown menu, but yeah. Good luck with Wikia Support, at any rate. =) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 15:55, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, sure, I meant Shift. xD My bad.
They sent me a notification that they received my e-mail, I'm currently waiting for an answer. Thanks for the support and stuff. ^^ (talk) 16:30, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Um... Without an account I can't revert edits on files, so could anyone please revert Omojuze's files from the 5D's manga cards and chapter? Those are Chinese scanlators, not official. Thanks. ^^ (talk) 22:44, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Done. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 23:18, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now I'm free! Yay!
Suddenly I was able to log in, I'm not sure if it was the guys from the Wikia support who solved the problem, but who cares, I'm back baby. 8D And let's keep messing with cookies to help 5Ds! 8D LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 16:52, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back! =D
In the future, liberal use of Chrome's password manager should help you avoid situations like this. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:33, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Or "Lastpass", which part of the site that I am current using to rejoining the site I used to log in from before quick. --iFredCat 17:34, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Personally, I use KeePass, though I've yet to really learn how to use it properly, and as a result I don't utilize it nearly as much as I should. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 17:41, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Heh, thanks for the advises. ^^ LegendaryAsariUgetsu (talkcontribs) 19:01, January 25, 2013 (UTC)


Howdy Dinoguy. Nice to speak to you again. Regarding your bot, I've noticed a lot of overlinking on certain pages and I was wondering if your bot could clear them up. I'm not quite sure of the policies regarding overlinking but I'll ask anyway. :P

The overlinking has mainly occurred on the episode articles which, as you know, are very long so are difficult to navigate around. BROOKLYN RAGE! is trying his best to go through them now, but his poor fingers will be falling off at this rate. ;) Thanks. --Spongebob456 (Talk) 19:23, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

I don't actually regularly use my bot; you would probably be better off asking Falzar instead. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:21, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thanks anyways. :) --Spongebob456 (Talk) 20:24, January 25, 2013 (UTC)


You think Power32840 should be given Rollback to combat vandal/spamming faster (not to mention it will remove the 2 edits from the default recent changes, which is another plus)? Shardsilver (talkcontribs) 19:45, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. But without meaning to sound insulting to Power, perhaps it would be best if he didn't mind trying using less abusive edit summaries? Those can often encourage the vandals and they don't make Recent Changes look too pretty. Plus, you're advised by Wikia staff not to show emotion when reverting vandalism for the reasons I posted above. --Spongebob456 (Talk) 19:50, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
I've granted the userright to him, and I'll let him know about his edit summaries in a minute. ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 19:53, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
Oddly, I can do a rollback without have that right, is that because I am a Mover? Or is that just unique kind of "Mini-Mod"? --iFredCat 20:15, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
Actually, you're just able to undo edits: you click on an "undo" link and then have to click "save"; with rollback rights, however, you see an additional "rollback" link on the most recent edit for pages, and clicking on that completely reverts the edit, without you having to save the page yourself. ;) ディノ千?!? · ☎ Dinoguy1000 20:49, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
For what I did, compare the difference (by dot previous to the latest) then click "Undo", that's how I did this way - by cut all vandalism that some IP-Addressed User(s) mess up in same line of chains. --iFredCat 20:58, January 28, 2013 (UTC)