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Gravekeeper's Chief
How is Gravekeeper's Chief (character) a Shadow Rider ? --Qim1 17:48, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you Rodtheanimegod4ever, problem solved.
Gravekeeper Burn
I know that it is not a setup that is played very often, at least not in major tournaments, but would it be worth it to make a recommended cards section for Gravekeeper burn decks? Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 02:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
No. Nobody- (talk • contribs) 02:36, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
I actually agree with Nobody on this one. Cause the only Gravekeeper that actually burns is Cannonholder and he only does 700 Damage. Compared to other Burn Decks, this one would really really really suck. I mean, I'll give a B+ only on Creativity, but overall, the Concept and everything else, I would have to give a big ol' Fail Stamp on it. Although, if you want to be laughed at by all of the other Burn Duelist's then go ahead. But me, personally, I just don't see how it could be affective. Altyrell (talk • contribs) 03:22, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
If you don't see how it could be effective, then you obviously haven't tried it. The current setup I'm experimenting with does about 4000 damage easily at any given time. And have you ever heard of Dark Room of Nightmare? Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 22:39, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
-_- No i've never heard of that card *rolls eyes*. Yes i have heard of that card. While that deck might work for you, it isn't a widely used deck at Tournaments. Altyrell (talk • contribs) 23:08, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
I understand that it isn't widely used at tournaments, but not every deck type is. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 23:22, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
- @Altyrell; Are you sure that's ONLY Burn Gravekeeper's? There are two if I recalled correct, Cannonholder himself AND Gravekeeper's Curse. I know that Curse sound lame, but he's still considering burn since 500 damage per summon sound still burn. You can revive him few times with Reborn, Royal, then Call and blast him off with Cannonholder easily. Then you can revive him to hand by Stele or Pot of Avarice/Monster Reincarnation, for moar burns. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 18:46, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
GraveKeepers Burn runs remarkably well, anyone who bought the Marik Structure deck can tell you that it came with Coffin Seller and Skull Invitation, combine that combo with Dark Room, and use Descendant and Curse, along with reborn cards to tribute curse, summon him again, burn a whole ton, destroy your opponents cards, burn them for that, then attack, the finale with gravekeepers Canonholder for amazing burn damage! Curse does 500 when summoned, skull invitation does 200 when a card goes to the grave, coffin seller does 300 for each monster destroyed, canonholder does 700, with 3 rite of spirit, and Gravekeeper's Spy, you can easily do over 8000 damage in one turn!
Nobody
Leave the page alone. Simply because you do not like using Solidarity or Visionary does not make them useless cards for a basic Gravekeeper Deck. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 01:46, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
I actually think adding the burn section of the deck is a great idea, as the deck did have tremendous popularity in the past, and with the latest support cards for the archetype, it could become powerful again in the current format. For those of you unfamiliar with the deck, it does NOT use "Cannonholder" to inflict burn, but "Wave-Motion Cannon" for its ability to end a duel very quickly once placed on the field, and protected. Obviously this isn't the entire theme of the deck, but I think I won't put it all in here.
If nobody else is willing to create a section on it, I for one will, as I know how effective the deck can be, or certainly was - and it was something I even expected to find on this page when I visited it. Over and Out --EndOfTheWorld (Its the EndOfTheWorld! Mwuhahahaha!) 18:40, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
I added in some cards for the Gravekeeper burn section. I think that Chief could be included in the monsters, because you can use his effect to bring back Gravekeeper's Curse and tribute both with Gravekeeper's Cannonholder to get between 1900-4600 damage (depending on Dark Room of Nightmare). Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 02:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
- I added in Cursed Bill. With Gravekeeper's Descendant, it can do some damage and clear out your opponent's monsters. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 17:46, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Too Many counter edits, lets get us some table!
In a similar fasion to Aliens, Batterymen, and that other one, I think we need a table on this one explaining card choices, in addition to deck subtypes, the reason for this is entirly not to stop nobody reverting edits <,<
Recommended Cards
| Card Name | Reason |
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| Monsters | |
| Gravekeeper's Assailant | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Cannonholder | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Chief | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Commandant | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Curse | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Descendant | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Guard | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Priestess | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Recruiter | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Spy | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Vassal | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Visionary | Comment |
| Thunder King Rai-Oh | Slows down opposing decks, while being strong in itself, stops Synchro monsters. However, using it prevents the use of Gravekeeper's Recruiter. |
| Deep Sea Diva/Plaguespreader Zombie/Glow-Up Bulb | Comment |
| Mystic Tomato | Comment |
| Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind | Comment |
| Lava Golem | Comment |
| Dark World | Due to them activating in the grave, they are unaffected by Necrovalley, and in addition, they activate when discarded by Royal Tribute leading to potential combos. For more information, click ->Here<- |
| Fabled | Similar to Dark World monsters, though some are more limited, due to affecting monsters other than themselves, can still provide a variation to the standard Gravekeepers deck. For more information, click ->Here<- |
| Extra Deck | |
| Tempest Magician | If running cards such as Plaguespreader Zombie or Deep Sea Diva, this provides an easy game finishing burn effect. |
| Spells | |
| Necrovalley | Comment |
| Gravekeeper's Stele | Comment |
| Royal Tribute | Comment |
| Solidarity | If the deck is entirely Spellcaster monsters, this provides a constant strong attack boost, which can enable use of Virus Cards even if Necrovalley is destroyed |
| Spell | Comment |
| Spell | Comment |
| Traps | |
| Rite of Spirit | Comment |
| Crush Card Virus (Traditional Only) | By tributing a face down Gravekeeper, or one when Necrovalley isn't in play, this can clear the opponents field & hand of strong monsters for the next 3 turns. |
| Deck Devastation Virus | By tributing a Gravekeeper, under the effect of Necrovalley, or Solidarity, this can clear the opponents field & hand of weak monsters, such as tuners, for the next 3 turns. |
| Eradicator Epidemic Virus | By tributing a Gravekeeper, under the effect of both Necrovalley and Solidarity, this can clear the opponents field & hand of traps or spells, for the next 3 turns. Works well in combination with Royal Tribute. |
| Trap | Comment |
of course, i just edited all the stuff off this one so cbb right this second,-Resk (talk • contribs) 20:45, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
Necrovalley Anti-Meta
Necrovalley Anti-Meta
There are so many reasons why this kind of Deck is relevant, then I will explain it at these following grounds:
(This is a Deck that I've developed at my Duel researches)
Monsters:
- Gravekeeper's Spy - It is pretty useful, has high DEF and allows a free Special Summon from your Deck. With Necrovalley, it becomes an impregnable defense
- Gravekeeper's Guard - Also boasts high DEF, including with Necrovalley active, and bounces one monster whose opponent has attacked with
- Gravekeeper's Descendant - Acts as an endless Exiled Force, destroying your opponent's monsters every time
- Gravekeeper's Recruiter - Is able to search any Gravekeeper, but is irrelevant compared to Gravekeeper's Spy
- Gravekeeper's Watcher - Looks useful against the Meta, since perhaps your opponent would use any effect whereby they discard the monsters themselves (such as Honest and D.D. Crow), thus shielding them from such a chaos
- Gravekeeper's Visionary - The "major" of any Gravekeeper Deck. He is easy to Summon and is able to overpower the Duel fiel with ease
- Doomcaliber Knight - Is able to take down any stronger Nomi monster, such as DAD or Judgment Dragon, making the Duel nothing harder for you
- Plaguespreader Zombie - His self-revival effect is unaffected by Necrovalley, then it'll be a key for a Synchro Summon
- Dark World - They have an objection with Necrovalley since their effects do NOT target the grave, and yes, activate into there, thus getting a significant advantage
- Fabled - Just like the Dark World, they do activate in the grave and are unaffected by Necrovalley, they surpass this kind of Deck
Spells:
- Necrovalley - Logically the key card of a Gravekeeper's Deck, increasing their ATK and DEF and preventing targetin and removal card from the grave.
- Gravekeeper's Servant - Has a splashable combo with Dimension Fortress Weapon, being able to cause a lock even in this Deck
- Royal Tribute - This is a trump card, granting firld control while making your opponent discard their entire hand of monsters
- Wave-Motion Cannon - Try to Stall your opponent while you wait for 8 turns to deal a severe damage and win the Duel instantly
Traps:
- Royal Oppression - This card is fatal, since you'd negate the whole Special Summons and level the rate of Summons on the Field
- Judgment of Anubis - Is ideal to protect your Necrovalley, while you destroy your opponent's monsters and deal damage in one step
- Rite of Spirit - Acts as a costless Premature Burial for this kind of Deck, since Necrovalley forbids ressurrection, this should somewhat be useful
- Mask of Restrict - Monarchs cannot contend with this kind of Deck with their effects
Extra Deck:
- Tempest Magician - Is greatly easy to Summon in this Deck and relevant due to its Burn effect which would take down the opponent easily.
- Mask of restrict destroys Gravekeeper's decks. Did you not read this card's effect? Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 17:37, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, you're right, this is the only backfire from this card! Thanks for the advice, Jon! Duelmaster3000
- At this point, Gravekeepers properly run are anti-meta in and of themselves. There is already and anti-meta Gravekeeper's section, and there is really no need to create another. In addition, many of the cards you have proposed, such as Gravekeeper's Visionary, are far from viable.
Nobody- (talk • contribs) 00:02, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Dudes, my Necrovalley Anti-Meta was just a sample of that strategy, as I've been trying to develop my own version. But! There's just one thing that's outrageous here! Nobody is becoming too pretentious, and is using no more no less than profanity towards non-noob Duelists. I get truly upset with that fact, and I guess Duelists like Jon Kovacs and Resk are witnesses.
- I have noticed that User:Nobody- is a bit harsh with some of their comments. As far as the cards you listed go, it seems as though they either fit into one of the categories already on the page, or into the optional support section. You may want to put in a short section in the introduction part of the page talking about using Dark World monsters or Fabled monsters in Keeper decks, and possibly the capability of using them in Synchro decks. Just a thought. Jon Kovacs (talk • contribs) 00:52, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
