Forum:??? ATK & DEF

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Using ??? and ? in some token monster page make me confused, how can we know if the valve is 'unknown' or 'variable' ?

in Clone Token page we can see that the image show "?" in Types, ATK and DEF. telling that the valve is variable. --Dlamash (talkcontribs) 15:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

??? is reference to unknown identity of ATK/DEF and Type. While ? only in ATK and DEF, which can't be search, like "The Creator God of Light, Horakhty". --FredCat 15:34, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
Right "?" is the value that is on some cards like "Gren Maju Da Eiza". "???" means the monster does have an ATK value (or DEF, Type, Attribute, whatever), we just don't know what it is. Most commonly seen with manga cards and new real-world cards that we don't have clear translations or pictures of yet. Cheesedude (talkcontribs) 18:00, December 9, 2011 (UTC)