Forum:D.D. scout plane vs Royal opprestion

If I activate royal oppression and I remove my opponent's D.D.Scout Plane, then I active royal oppression and negative the special summon does it come back next turn or is the effect totally negated?

• When you negate the Special Summon of D.D. Scout Plane, it is considered that it didn't hit the field and it was sent to the RFG zone immediately. However, D.D. Scout Plane, unlike D.D. Survivor, doesn't have to be removed from the field to be Special Summoned, so I believe that the Plane would return on that turn's End Phase, just like when it returns to the field after being discarded. --Darth Covah 15:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

When the plane tries to special summon itself, "Royal Oppression" can be chained and negate the summon and destroys the plane which means the plane is sent to the graveyard now. Also the plane can only use it's effect once per turn, so if it tries to special summon during an end phase and it's effect is negated, it cannot use it's effect again and special summon itself during the same end phase. ATEMVEGETA 17:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

• Cards in the Graveyard/Removed Zone cannot be destroyed. "Royal Oppression" will negate "D.D. Scout Plane", and "D.D. Scout Plane" will remain removed from play (it doesn't leave the Removed Zone or anything). Its effect cannot be activated again - not during this turn, and not during any further turns. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 00:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

So if a summon is negated and the monster is destroyed from the deck,hand,extra deck ect. does it means the monster will remain where it is? If so what's the point of the (and destroy it). ATEMVEGETA 08:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

• You can destroy cards in the Hand/Deck/Extra Deck. "Royal Oppression" will negate such Effects/Summons, destroy the card, and send it to the Graveyard. --Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 20:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

So if you negate the special summon from hand/deck/extra deck the monster will be destroyed and sent to the graveyard, but if you negate it from the removed from play zone it will remain there. Right? Also if a card says only, negate, then the monster will remain where it is? ATEMVEGETA 21:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Err, we have to be careful to distinguish chainable effects which Summon a monster, and inherent Summon Effects like "Cyber Dragon".

Right, although I don't believe there are any Summon Effects that can be used while the monster is in the Graveyard. "Vampire Lord" (Trigger Effect from the Graveyard) and "D.D. Scout Plane" (Trigger Effect from the Removed Zone) won't be destroyed by "Royal Oppression". "Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon" (Summon Effect from the Deck), "XYZ-Dragon Cannon" (Summon Effect from the Extra Deck), "Theinen the Great Sphinx" (Trigger Effect from the deck), and "Cyber Dinosaur" (Trigger Effect from the hand) will all be destroyed by "Royal Oppression" and sent to the Graveyard.

If you mean an effect (like "Light and Darkness Dragon") which negates a chainable effect which Summons a monster, then the card will remain where it is. There are no effects which can negate an inherenet Summon without destroying the monster - the closest I can find is "Forced Back". If such a card existed, the monster would probably be sent to the Graveyard, since the monster has already left the hand and cannot go to the field.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 22:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. thanks! ATEMVEGETA 10:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)