Forum:I am fed up with playing on DN, everyone uses Meta decks despite me telling them no to, and i developped because of that a fear of losing

Good Evening friends. I just wanted some advice or anything similar if you don't mind. Here's the story: I am a person who prints all his cards in real life with a normal printer and sticks them to fake cards (All this process is reasonably cheap ), why do i do it? Because i like having the cards i like,I SAID LIKE, NOT find powerful. You see, i am someone who believes purely in dueling with a fun deck, a theme deck, a billy deck or anything you made yourself out of your own heart, with cards whose Design and theme you like. I just hate how everyone is only playing meta decks or decks with specific cards based around ONE SINGLE strategy, Like Malefic Geartown, or stardust/Assault mode lock... To tell you the truth, a few times, to respond to that, i made both in real life (WITH FAKE PRINTED CARDS, FOR THOSE CURSING ME BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY THINK I CAN AFFORD ONE) and on dueling network two hybrid decks, one composed of a lockdown with Plasma, Horus and Decree, and one with 3 Stardust Dragon / Assault mode. However, despite being more efficient than my other decks, i never truly enjoyed using them as much as decks i truly like (Photon-Galaxy, Rank 4 Xyz, Atlandis-Monarchs, Phantom Beasts, Genex Ally)(Again, all of them are fake), and switched back to my old decks. When i play on DN, i ALWAYS Leave this note when creating a game: NO META, ONLY FUN OR THEME DECKS, ONLY CARDS YOU LIKE...etc. Howver, 75 % of the times, the players who enter my game use Meta decks or single strategy decks: Frognarchs, Malefic Gear, lava golem lockdown, Magic explosion OTK, EXODIA FTK.... I'm just sick of bumping into all these hypercompetitive decks wherever i go despite carrying a giant banner saying : NO HYPER F****G HYPERCOMPETITIVE DECKS! Due to me facing only those decks when i gather enough will to play again, i don't feel like playing anymore. I remember once facing a girl who used Karakuri-themed deck. Karakuris aren't much known, just like my Genex Allies, and are a fun non-broken deck. Despite losing to that lady, i really enjoyed the duel and wanted to play again. However, all those humiliating losses to Meta or high-tier decks, along with the part of me that's a sore loser, made me afraid of playing again because there is a high chance i'd lose a totally nauseating loss to high tier players, while i'm just looking for fun decks used by fun people. I may even be becoming afraid of losing in regular fun duels, against fun players. Please, if anyone has an advice or a nice thing to say, leave a comment! Thank you Imadmagician (talk • contribs) 14:05, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Just a question: why use proxies to play IRL? Most of the decks you listed that you like playing are made up of cards that, when bought on ebay or something, cost less than $5-$10, max, each, usually only costing $1-$2 each. For instance, I have a Phantom Beast deck that I managed to make using commons of most of the staples (MST, Dark Hole, etc.) and ebay-bought cards for the main archetype, all of which weren't that expensive. If you're testing out cards that are too expensive for you to get, at the moment, then I could understand, but the way you're sounding, it sounds like you're making your entire deck out of proxies, and I just have to wonder why.

Also, if you're so against "meta" decks, then you will never be a good duelist. I'm not saying this to put you down, just to educate you; meta decks will always be around, and the meta is always changing, so what was good before wouldn't necessarily work, now. A lot of the "meta" decks you mentioned aren't actually top-tier decks, nowadays, not in the real world; I haven't seen a Magical Explosion OTK deck for years, let alone an Empty Jar or Exodia OTK deck. I know, it's frustrating to get your butt kicked by these decks consistently, but blocking them instead of learning how to deal with them is not the way to go. There's a reason the side deck exists; to deal with unexpected decks that your deck is weak to. And, you know, and you mentioned with the Karakuri deck (which, btw. is becoming meta thanks to it being combined with the Geargia), losing to these decks can still be fun, as long as you have a good time of it and you give it your all. I, myself, remember facing off against a Chaos Yata OTK deck back when it was still legal, and while I eventually lost to it, my crappy deck at the time managed to stall and frustrate the opponent enough that he actually congratulated me on giving him a run for his money. I'm not saying duelists are always going to act like that, and if they don't, then they are the duelists you need to avoid, but playing against ALL types of decks - both meta and not - is the only way of finding the flaws in your own deck and improving it, and there's nothing wrong with having fun with it while learning something.

So relax, chill out, and stop being such a whiner about this. I hate the meta, too, but you don't see me going on a jihad against it, do you? That's because I know better than to fret about it, and use it to better myself and my deck as a duelist. That's the kind of attitude you need to go into a duel with, not "OMFG, I'm hating losing against meta decks, let's ban everything that isn't "fun"".

Oh, one more thing: why do you eliminate decks with "one single strategy"? Technically, ALL decks need to limit their strategies to one thing to be consistent; are you really expecting people to play Beatdown/Burn/Mill or something? Even the decks you mentioned that you play have one single strategy to go with them; Photon/Galaxy is anti-meta, Rank 4 Xyz focus around getting those out, Genex Allies is Synchro Toolbox, etc. You aren't going to get a deck with more than one strategy and have it be stable enough to win against even the most casual of one-strategy deck; that's why mishmash decks that all beginner duelists make, where they shove all of the cards they like into the deck, whether they work or not, don't work.Vorpal Storm Pony (talk • contribs) 17:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

UltimateKuriboh's Response

What I do is write in my Duel Note: FUN, noncompetitive, underused decks ONLY (which barely fits in). Most of the time I get what I ask for. When I don't, I either play the Deck (if I feel I have a good-enough hand) or reprimand them and give them a reason why their Deck doesn't fit the profile before quitting.

Remember, some of those guys with the competitve Decks may be trolling, OR just want a non-competitive Deck to test their new "revolutionary" meta Deck on, OR just want a dummy so they can see how a meta Deck's strategies/combos work.

And btw, Karakuris were pretty popular shortly after their release, as you can see here. Why don't you leave your DN username on here, as I have some fun Decks as well. My DN username is the same as my yugioh.wikia username. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 18:21, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Just a point to make. On DN, you aren't allowed to put restrictions on your opponent's deck (other than format), and if you do and your opponent ignores you, it's not their fault. If you want to see some creativity, don't tell people that - it'll almost guarantee you end up fighting a meta deck. And to be honest, on Unrated, I probably face a 50:50 mix of meta and non-meta decks, so I sincerely doubt that you end up always fighting meta decks. Battlemaniac (talk • contribs) 20:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

You play too many Rated Duels *wrinkles nose*. The "no restriction except for TCG/OCG format" rule only applies to Rated Duels, as you can see the rule is absent when you make a Duel Note for unrated. And to be honest, the only people I play that don't listen to my Duel Note are either ignorant that their Deck is competitive, whiny about testing their Deck, or try to play you as much as they can before you find out. This makes up about 10-20% of the people though. Those are good odds. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 22:02, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Yea... I recall feeling the same way many times.
I used to play regulary in tournaments a year or more back...
This was when Gladiator Beasts, Lightsworns, and Blackwings were top tier decks.
I got frustrated, I did not have enough money to throw around to make decks
like that. So, instead I worked on trying to enjoy the game despite losing.
I try now to enjoy the game for what it is...like the other person said:
There will always be a meta, there will always be new "broken" decks with
vile and nasty combos.

I also learned to make decks that go against the grain, so to speak.
I've made a Burn deck that has had some sweet wins.
I have made a Rock/Bounce deck.
I have made a Skill Drain / Normal Monster deck.
And... A nice Anti-Meta Deck!

I have even made my share of "Meta Decks" too.

Point is, if your deck doesn't run all the nasty fast combos, you
might lose once in a while. But, it is also a great way to get better at
Yugioh! What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger!
Don't be discouraged, besides it is just a game. Enjoy

70.167.111.220 (talk) 03:00, October 24, 2012 (UTC)AceCloudKicker

I'll just going to repeat what everyone else said. The meta changes...yadda, yadda, yadda. By the way, as a Monarchs lover, Frogmonarch isn't really meta, but it is harder for most casual decks to fight against. Now that we got over that, there are a bunch of fun budget decks you can make in real life. Chaos Dragons, Atlanteans (3x of Structure Deck + Some other cards), Gravekeepers, Agents, Dark World. All of those deck are competitive and really cheap to make if you just get 3 of their respective structure deck. You'll probably be able to make a competitive deck that costs $40-$60 (Depending on what you choose to use. ---Dark Ace SP (Talk) 12:50, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Friendly player~

Yo bro. I know your pain. I am one player who build non-meta (but not anti-meta either) and screw around with the metagame users. You could try dueling me on DN. My DN name is Onimusha. If you find any of my decks (I SWEAR most of them have never been meta, and only a few are based off meta archetypes with non-meta builds) interesting, I can always pass to you my decklist~ Kyosuke Kiryu (talk • contribs) 13:22, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hei! Konami already spread the word kattobingu. So stop crying -Hanisnordan (talk • contribs) 13:50, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Not particularly complaining. More of the cruel fun of seeing a deck nobody had used before pwn a meta deck.Kyosuke Kiryu (talk • contribs) 14:27, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

There are some decks out there that are considered "meta" but could still be fun to use. For example Wind-Ups have topped a little while ago, and yes can be considered "meta" but that doesn't mean its not a fun deck to use. I made a Wind-Up deck recently and threw in a twist with T.G. monsters for faster ways to get rank 3 and 4 monsters out and its really fun to use. Sometimes you just have to throw your own twist onto a "meta" deck and have fun with it, maybe you'll end up realizing that not all meta-decks are hard to face. There are many options you can take in building your own style of deck, whether you use some ideas from meta-decks or not just have fun with it you never know when inspiration can hit you. Hastydemon2 (talk • contribs) 18:00, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

True, plus if you look at what has topped in recent YCS, all the YCS played so far, have had really diverse Top 32s and a different deck win the event each time. Just saying, Wind-Up topped the first, HERO got the 2nd, Sams got the 3rd, and Geargai/Karakuri got the 4th, plus with a 5th one around the corner this weekend, we'll probably see another deck top, maybe Prophecy or even an early Atlantean build? Who knows? That's the fun of this format, every deck has a shot, as long as it isn't around a really under-supported archetype like Phantom Beast (In defense of Phantom Beast, they're pretty good as a casual deck). ---Dark Ace SP (Talk) 02:23, October 26, 2012 (UTC)