Forum:LaDD + Leyvaten loop ??

We all know the Light and Darkness Dragon loop with Dragunity Arma Leyvaten... Respect to this loop, I has a few question:

If Leyvaten is equit with LaDD:

1)If Leyvaten is also equit with Malevolent Nuzzler, and Leyvaten if destroy/tributed and send to grave, can I chain to LaDD my Nuzzler to then place it in the top of my deck, and after that continue with the loop???

2)If LaDD is goin to be destroyed/sent to grave (Mystical Space Typhoon, Codarus, etc), can I chain a card that tribute/destroy Leyvaten (Mystik Wok, Destruct Potion, etc) to save the loop???

3)If LaDD is goin to be return to my hand/deck (Giant Trunade, Spiritual Wind Art - Miyabi, etc ), can I chain a card that tribute/destroy Leyvaten to save the loop???

4)If Leyvaten is goin to be return to my hand/deck (Penguin Soldier, Raiza the Storm Monarch, etc), can I chain a card that tribute/destroy Leyvaten to save the loop???

5)If Leyvaten or LaDD is going to be removed from play (Chaos Sorcerer, Caius the Shadow Monarch, Dimensional Prison, D.D. Warrior Lady, etc ), can I chain a card that tribute/destroy Leyvaten to save the loop???

6)If I has Leyvaten equit with LaDD, Card Trooper, Black Ptera, Sand Moth set, Dark Coffin set, and Big Bang Shot equit to a opponent' monster... if I trigger the loop with Advance Draw, Mystik Wok, Destruct Potion, Nightmare Archfiends or Spiritual Wind Art - Miyabi or etc: then all, the loop and the mencion cards activate??? (to end with: Leyvaten equit with LaDD, Sand Moth with 2000atk, 1 draw with Trooper, Ptera in hand, the opponent' monster removed with Big Bang, and the effect of Dark Coffin + the effect of card to trigger the loop)

Copperfield (talk • contribs) 23:59, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

1) If destroyed by battle/another cards effect (as long as that effect is chain link 1): yes. If tributed as a cost/summon or destroyed in the middle of a chain: no, it misses the timing.

2) - 6) yes.

Keep a close look at the cards text, if it doesn't say "you can" the it is a mandatory effect and can't miss the timing. Only effect with "when ... you can" can miss the timing, optional effects with "if ... you can" don't miss it either.

Also, cards equipped to a monster are imediately destroyed after the monster leaves the field. Even in the middle of a chain or when the monster is tributed. -dest- (talk • contribs) 11:16, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

• how is there a loop? LADD can't be special summoned or is it a semi-nomi monster? Superboltboy (talk • contribs) 16:41, May 7, 2011 (UTC)SBB

LADD is possible to be summon, from via monster effect. I don't think LADD is NOMI monster. --FredCat 16:49, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Except, the first line of text reads "This card cannot be Special Summoned." Superboltboy, the loop is as follows: "Dragunity Arma Leyvaten" is destroyed while "Light and Darkness Dragon" is equipped. When "Light and Darkness Dragon" is destroyed by the game mechanics for equip cards, its effect to destroy all cards you control and Special Summon 1 monster from the graveyard will activate. Player A, in this case, will Special Summon "Dragunity Arma Leyvaten". When "Dragunity Arma Leyvaten" is Special Summoned, it equips 1 monster in the graveyard to itself. Here, Player A will equip the "Light and Darkness Dragon". Every time "Dragunity Arma Leyvaten" is destroyed, it will be Special Summoned back to the field. "Light and Darkness Dragon" is never Special Summoned, only equipped. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 17:21, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

• Woah thats really powerful! Is Divine Wrath or Giant Trunade the only way to counter that? Superboltboy (talk • contribs) 19:11, May 7, 2011 (UTC)SBB

No. Any cards that return "Dragunity Arma Leyvaten" to the Extra Deck or remove it from play will disrupt the combo. Same can be said for "Light and Darkness Dragon", only instead of returning it to the Extra Deck, returning it to the hand or Main Deck will disrupt it. DemonGodAsura (talk • contribs) 03:56, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

@DemonGodAsura, you mean the Main Deck for Dragunity Arma Leyvaten. It's not a synchro. 75.60.219.0 (talk) 17:29, May 13, 2011 (UTC)