Forum:Light and Darkness Dragon vs. Cyber Dragon

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If a player has Cyber Dragon in his hand, and attempts to Special Summon it while the opponent controls Light and Darkness Dragon, what happens?


Also, my friend says there's a ruling which states:

Player 1 Tribute Summons Prime Material Dragon

Player 2 Activates Bottomless Trap Hole

Player 1 Uses Prime Material Dragon's effect, sending a card to the Graveyard

Player 2 Activates Divine Wrath

Now, he says,

Player 1 Uses Prime Material Dragon's effect since Bottomless Trap Hole has "speeded up" Prime Material Dragon, to negate Divine Wrath.


This can't possibly be true, can it?

87.227.23.71 17:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


"Light and Darkness Dragon" can only stop effects which activate - that is, effects which form a Chain. "Cyber Dragon" does not start a Chain when it Special Summons itself, so "Light and Darkness Dragon" cannot stop it.
There is no such ruling. That effect of "Prime Material Dragon" is always Spell Speed 2, so it can NEVER be chained to a Spell Speed 3 Counter Trap.
--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 20:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

And Prime Material Dragon can't even negate Divine Wrath because Divine Wrath negates the effect.

  • An easy way to remember Speed Spell levels, is that normal and continuous spells are 1, normal and continuous traps and monsters are 2, and counter traps are 3. Only a counter trap can stop a counter trap. Messengerofthedark 03:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)Messengerofthedark