Forum:Red Dragon Archfien Destruction effect

I've just seen RDA's ruling in it's page. just want to verify. Just say whether it is correct or not.

1. A card that have an effect that will activate if the card is destroyed by battle and sent to the graveyard such as Masked Dragon, Pyramid Turtle, Deep Diver, Exploder Dragon, etc. Have RDA attack them (in defense position), they will not get their effect since they are sent to the graveyard by RDA's effect, not by battle.
2. I have a LADD and RDA both face-up in my field, and I go to my End Phase, RDA's effect will activate (the one which destroy every monster that didn't declare attack), but LADD will negate it so LADD will lose 500 attack and defense.

Thanks before. Neos lover 10:19, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

both are correct Lord eriee 11:08, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

1) The effect will activate the ruling states that the monster will not activate if it is destroyed by Red Dragon Archfiend's effect which activates after damage calculation so if the monster survives battle then its effect will not activate but if it doesn't survive battle then it's effect will activate.Skavinger 17:41, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

1) Neos Lover and Lord eriee are correct. "Red Dragon Archfiend" destroys the monster by battle, but before the monster is sent to the Graveyard, the effect of "Red Dragon Archfiend" destroys it a second time. The monster was sent to the Graveyard by the effect, so the monster is treated as being destroyed by an effect, not destroyed by battle. Thus, the effects of cards like "Pyramid Turtle" and "Deep Diver" won't activate.

2) Correct, but afterwards the effect of "Red Dragon Archfiend" will activate again, similar to "Lightsworn" monsters.

--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 19:17, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

So, for question number 2, which is correct?

If LADD didn't attack

a. RDA activates, LADD negate it (chain link 2), then RDA activates again (chain link 3). LADD's effect cannot activate in the same chain, so LADD will be destroyed

b. RDA activates, LADD negate it (chain link 2), then RDA activates again (in different chain), LADD negate it again and again until it cannot negate again then LADD is destroyed because of RDA's effect

in both above case, the ending will be "Because LADD is destroyed, it destroys all cards in my field and so on...."

If LADD attacked

a. RDA activates, LADD negate it (chain link 2), then RDA activates again (chain link 3). LADD's effect cannot activate in the same chain, so LADD will stay there with atk/def 2300/1900 (assuming it was 2800/2400)

b. RDA activates, LADD negate it (chain link 2), then RDA activates again (in different chain), LADD negate it again and again until it cannot negate again. Lefting LADD with 900/400 atk/def.

Neos lover 04:29, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

RDA activates its effect in separate chains! So LADD will continue to negate it until he runs out of ATK! ATEMVEGETA (Talk) 10:21, September 20, 2009 (UTC)