Forum:Usefulness of Necrovalley

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I knew that this field spell card Necrovalley can negate the spell, trap and monster effect that target the graveyard.

1) Can Necrovalley negate a spell card that can't be negated which targets the graveyard?(Incase)

2) What kind of deck that mainly blocked by Necrovalley's effect?

3) Can Necrovalley negate pot of avarice effect?

Tanhopkins93 10:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)Tanhopkins93(Newbie)

1) I'm not sure what you mean by "cannot be negated" - you'll have to give an example. It sounds like the answer is no, since the card cannot be negated.

3) "Pot of Avarice" targets, so "Necrovalley" negates it.

--Deus Ex Machina 14:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

  • 1) If you're referring to something like Spiritualism that targets the graveyard, Necrovalley would not negate it. --Crab Helmet 04:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  • 2) Anything that makes extensive use of the graveyard, like Zombies. --Crab Helmet 04:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


Question

  • 4) When Stardust Dragon and negate an effect, does it stuck in the grave due to Necrovalley?
  • 5) Is there a card that say inflict direct damage for each dark monster on the field?

Tanhopkins93 11:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(Newbie)

Macro Cosmos decks run freely against Necrovalley, right? Zeek Aran 11:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it had to pass through the graveyard first.
Tanhopkins93 11:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(newbie)

4) "Stardust Dragon" Special Summons herself, so "Necrovalley" shouldn't interfere.

5) Not to my knowledge....

Z) While "Macro Cosmos" is in play, cards are sent from the «whatever» Zone to the Removed From Play Zone. They are not sent to the Graveyard and then removed from play. "Necrovalley" will have no effect on "Macro Cosmos".

--Deus Ex Machina 18:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Huh? I thought that necrovalley prevents card PULLING out from the graveyard.
Tanhopkins93 12:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC) tanhopkins93(Newbie)

What are you talking about? Danny Lilithborne 16:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

He's wondering about "Stardust Dragon". Considering how "Necrovalley" doesn't negate "Sinister Serpent" or "Vampire Lord", it appears that "Necrovalley" can't negate cards that pull themselves out of the Graveyard. --Deus Ex Machina 20:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Their effects activate in the graveyard so Necrovalley can't stop them. Danny Lilithborne 00:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Oo... I understand now :) So... Is there a way to stop this annoying dragon?
Is there a card that says discard all trap and spells in the hand?
Tanhopkins93 09:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(newbie)

"Angel O7", "The End of Anubis", "D.D. Crow", "The Transmigration Prophecy", "Mask of Restrict" and "Macro Cosmos" all stop "Stardust Dragon". And those are just the ones off the top of my head.

I don't think such a card exists. The closest thing is "Eradicator Epidemic Virus". --Deus Ex Machina 17:04, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Oo.. k i will try to get some of them. Btw, Necrovalley effect means. Any effect/spell/trap that target the graveyard is negated? Example: Monster Reborn and etc. But, if a monster effect says that. Tribute this card to summon the one in the graveyard. Will it be negated? I am really confused @.@ Tanhopkins93 03:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(newbie)

The rulings are a little fuzzy, but it looks like "Necrovalley"'s first effect negates cards that either (a)target a card or cards in the Graveyard or (b) move the whole Graveyard (like "Fiber Jar" or "Penguin Knight"). For the example you gave, it looks like it targets (and should be negated), but without knowing the card, I can't be sure.

Basically, "Necrovalley" is isn't one of those cards that can be easily explained. :/ --Deus Ex Machina 04:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

So, I feel 6 samurai deck better than Necrovalley. Since it doesn't require a field spell card like gravekeeper's deck. Tanhopkins93 07:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(newbie)

Are you kidding? They have their own insane, hard-to-explain rulings with their effects! --Deus Ex Machina 19:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha... I don't want to get a foul call during the tournament in my area. I need to prepare my gravekeeper's deck for tournament rank. So, any ideas? (it seems to be off topic) Tanhopkins93 13:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)tanhopkins93(newbie)

What about...?

would necrovalley have an effect on the dark world cards that if they are sent to the graveyard they special summon and draw cards and whatnot...ive been wondering cuz my friend has a decent deck but nothing special and i always lose to him cuz of necrovalley...yet i walk through other really good decks...just curious


Does Necrovalley stop whitch of the black forest and cards like hers affect?

No. Those effects activate in the graveyard, and Necrovalley prevents intervention with the graveyard. By intervention, I mean Special Summons, Pot of Avarice, Magician of Faith, and Mask of Darkness.
Gah! I keep forgetting to sign. -Bobcorncob 19:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wording issues

Pertaining to Necrovalley's effect on stardust dragon the cards that those in this board have mentioned all have different wording in their effects from stardust dragons. Stardust's effect specifically says "you can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard during the End Phase."

Meaning that the effect targets your graveyard and would thus be negated by necrovalley. I would like to know if this train of thought is valid since I have been running necrovalley's since they came out and my friend has begun using stardust dragons and stardust assultmodes in his decks.

  • If it helps, monster effects cannot target themselves. Because Stardust's special summon effect does not target any card in the graveyard, it works with Necrovalley in play. Runer5h 15:00, September 7, 2009 (UTC)Runer5h

Necrovalley VS morphtronic cards

if my opponent has morphtronic map out and i play my necro valley can he still special summon a morphtronic monster from his GY, and same question but with cameran's atk mode effect? — This unsigned comment was made by 24.113.164.144 (talk • contribs) 03:55, December 10, 2009

The effect of "Morphtronic Map" targets a monster in the Graveyard, so "Necrovalley" will negate it.
The effect of "Morphtronic Cameran" does not target. In the TCG, "Necrovalley" will not negate it, since in the TCG "Necrovalley" only negates effects which target. In the OCG, "Necrovalley" will negate it only if you choose to Special Summon a monster from the Graveyard, since in the OCG "Necrovalley" negates effects that "affect" the Graveyard, regardless of whether or not they target.
--Deus Ex Machina (Talk) 07:51, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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