Talk:Damage Step
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Can you activate Karma Cut, Threatening Roar, Triggered Summon, Dust Tornado or Birthright in the Damage Step or Battle Step?? Jupitus 12:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
no 24.100.25.239 12:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
In response to the opponent's attack declaration in the Battle Step, yes. But not in the Damage step. Poisoni (talk • contribs) 14:33, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
During the Battle Step, timing rules are same as standard. Most Traps and Quick-Play Spells can be activated. But, once the Damage Step has been entered, only certain effects can be activated. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, effects that DIRECTLY modify a monster's ATK or DEF, Counter Trap Cards, effects that are specifically related to battle, and mandatory Trigger Effects. Most of these can only be used before Damage Calculation; Honest is one of the few cards that can activate an effect during Damage Calculation. Note that "directly" means you can't activate Reckless Greed even though it would alter the ATK and DEF of your face-up Tragoedia, because Reckless Greed itself doesn't change the stats. And just a reminder, Talk Pages aren't for ruling questions, there is a Forum to ask these questions on. AEtherchild (Talk|Contribs) 00:16, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
Flipping Face-Up and Before Damage Calculation[edit]
This pretty much tells you that the flipping action occurs before damage calculation and not some time between then and the start of the Damage Step. I suggest putting the entire flipping face-up section into before damage calculation as bullet points, similar to how there were bullets during damage calculation that describes performing damage calculation, and at the end of the Damage Step when monsters are sent to the Graveyard by battle. Lightning Laxus (talk • contribs) 17:23, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
- True, it technically falls under the before damage calculation part of the Damage Step. But it has enough detail to merit its own section, as seen in one version of UDE's Damage Step chart. If possible, I would label it as a sub-section underneath "Before damage calculation", like so:
==Before damage calculation== ===Flipping the face-down monster face-up===
- However, the problem is how to distinguish the original 3 bullet points in the original "Before damage calculation" section. Putting them first would be weird, since the actions regarding flipping occur first. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 21:41, February 15, 2016 (UTC)
- Looks good. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 02:35, February 16, 2016 (UTC)
Rules regarding monsters destroyed by battle[edit]
This section is only relevant to the timing "After damage calculation", so it should go under that section of the page. I think it is inappropriate to put it under "Perform damage calculation" when the rules never apply at that time. --SnorlaxMonster 05:26, February 16, 2016 (UTC)
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Citation needed for activating monster effects that only negate during Damage Step[edit]
The four citations used to justify allowing monster effects that only "negate card /effect activations" to activate during the damage step are invalid. This supposed ruling is not mentioned in Version 9.0 of the TCG Rulebook & is not mentioned as a rule in the Damage Step chart made available on the Yu-Gi-Oh! Official website. (I have not seen this "rule" displayed in previous versions of the Rulebook either.) A proper citation is needed to endorse this "rule". (I attempted to remove it, but my action was "Undo"ne.)
-Two of the citations are from before PSCT was implemented in 2012. Two of them are for specific cards that have since been reprinted with new erratas.
-The third citation leads to an extremely long list of rulings published by Upperdeck in 2011. (Upperdeck rulings are now considered unofficial sources.)
-The fourth citation is from "The Perfect Rulebook 2017". The Perfect Rulebook is published by Shuiesha in Japan, a company that publishes VJUMP. I'm not sure if it qualifies as an official source. Even if it is an official source, The Perfect Rulebook has not been printed for English-speaking TCG players. 172.58.224.201 (talk) 08:10, 30 October 2018 (UTC) 172.58.224.201 (talk) 08:05, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
