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Deletion[edit]

  • This page shouldn't be deleted, Scarlet Nova Dragon has been officially announced in one of the upcoming episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's, so why shouldn't it have a page of its own. The type and level might not be known or anything but in this case it follows the line of Shooting Star Dragon who kept the same type and it's level can't be higher because Shooting Star Dragon is the ace monster of the main hero of the series. Just kidding. It was just recently announed that red nova dragon would be a lv 12 and a fire attribute. Masterdramon 18:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

No it shouldnt, because anyway its not the first time anyway that a card's page is made even weeks before it is shown on the anime and its mention on an episodes summary. For example Majestic Red Dragon, White Hole, Infernity Doom Dragon where some that follow this situation. DracoX 18:34, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wait for confirmation. We've had fake episode previews and names before, and this batch seems extra suspicious. —This unsigned comment was made by 70.138.173.219 (talk • contribs)

Number 70.138.173.219 is correct, don't make up the page without have enough proof. I just don't like see it up without good picture. I know that open show has him in, but still, not enough. So please wait till that episode is air in japan, and then we can work on it. It's like premature baby that had to put back in mother's womb and wait for it to born nature. --FredCat100 01:33, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I think you lot should leave it up, and when the real name comes up, if it's different, we can rename it. Just leave it alone for the present, and if justifiable grounds for deletion, outside of "it's too soon to make a page for it", come up, then you can delete it. —This unsigned comment was made by 24.224.68.204 (talk • contribs)

But now it's no longer informationless... It ever have proof of being exist with picture and details. --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 00:07, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Scarred, not Scarlet[edit]

According to LeArk (DMC and Janime), it's likely is actually Scarred Nova Dragon, not Scarlet Nova (both would be appropriately fitting names though, but given the image we've seen, it is definitely scarred in the face). To quote him from his DMC post: "Also, It's name is Scarred, probably. Not Scarlet. :x That D on the last Katakana makes all the difference." Anyone agree with changing it? ShinobiPhoenix 08:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC) yes it is and scarlet is a referrence to wow scarlet crusade--Sartorias 15:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

  • So here we are, it is Scarred after all. Even though we are currently saying it as "Scar-Red" it still is Scarred in the end. ShinobiPhoenix 11:32, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
So, if that is the case, we should move the page, correct? Qim1 23:36, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
  • Except that it was moved. "Scar-red" seems to be another wordplay. "Scarred" (for his look, face and symbol of Jack's wounded pride needing what it did) as well as emphasis on "red." I just mean in the end, the word "Scarred" was correct, just with some wordplay added in. ShinobiPhoenix 07:33, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
  • You People are forgetting something, in Japanese the R and L have the same sound, so it really wouldnt matter if it was spelled Scarred or Scarlet..it would still be pronounced as Scarred. Altho i admit Scarred sounds better.97.106.82.51 19:55, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • No, you're trying to sound like you know what you're talking about. It's "SUKAAREDDO." Again, referring to the double D. "REDDO" not "RETTO" A D doesn't magically transform into a T. Which is why it's Scarred and not Scarlet. This has nothing to do with the R and L confusion and there is none in this case anyway. ShinobiPhoenix 20:19, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • THe name of this card given in the Shonen Jump magazine literally translate to Scarlet Nova Dragon, but as seen in Elemental Hero Terra Firma, the name of the English card will still have the same meaning. If that is the case for this card too it should be called Scar-Red Nova Dragon.--Selutu 20:47, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • No, it doesn't. It's similiar, but the DD makes a huge difference. And it's obviously not SHONEN Jump. It's not even V-Jump. It's W-Jump. ShinobiPhoenix 20:59, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • Its name is a play on words to fit the characteristics of Jack and the Dragon itself. Scar - [そうい], Red - [レッド], Scarlet - [スカーレット], Scar-Red - [スカーレッド]. Instead of combining the characters for scar and red - [そうい レッド], Konami used the scar characters of scarlet (the dragon and earthbound god's color) with the characters of the color red to make the English translation spell SCARRED (the dragon's markings and some Jack reference about his personality). There are several hidden actions that were "they actually did that" moments. I dare you to look at how many times they hold a card to their opponent with their middle finger in the front.-blackheart1357 10-30-2010

Move this page to Scarred Nova Dragon, for god's sake, it's definitely not "Scar-Red." 70.138.173.219 02:39, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

atk?[edit]

how do you know his atk?--Arcanitejedi 14:28, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

i assume it will follow the same pattern as shooting star dragon much as majestic star and majestic red have an attack defense and level pattern. even though its in the intro this pic looks awesome the card art will likely be equally epic Kazisaki 00:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

You're probably right, however the pattern doesn't always hold. ASSAULT MODES: Stardust(+500 ATK/DEF), Red Dragon Archfiend(+500/ATK DEF) MAJESTIC: Stardust(+1300ATK/1000DEF), Red(+1000 ATK/DEF) Shooting Star gains 800 ATK/500 DEF. So it's possible that Nova Dragon might gain the same numbers, as with the Assault Modes - which would put its stats at 3800/2500. Or, if it follows the Majestics' pattern, its ATK increase could be 300 points less than Stardust's - 500/500, which would put it at 3500/3000, with 200 ATK points more than SSD.

17.102.41.64 14:14, May 22, 2010 (UTC)An Aki fanboy

And, it's 3500/3000. Totally called it. By the way, that thing is WAAAAY cooler IMO than SSD.

70.123.132.50 00:28, June 11, 2010 (UTC)An Aki fanboy


Effect?[edit]

My guess on the translated reading from the image scan of the Scar-Red Nova Dragon (which i could be wrong) is: "2 Tuners + Red Dragon Archfiend This card gains ATK equal to the number of Tuners in your Graveyard x 500. This card cannot be destroyed by the effect(s) of your opponent's Magic, Trap, and Effect Monster Card(s). Once per turn, during your opponent's turn, you can remove from play this card. During the turn that this card is remove from play by this effect, you can negate 1 attack this turn from a monster your opponent controls. If this card is removed from play this way, Special Summon this remove from play card during the End Phase." as this is the the suppose japanese text from the image scan "チューナー２体＋「レッド・デーモンズ・ドラゴン」 このカードの攻撃力は、自分の墓地に存在するチューナーの数×５００ポイントアップする。このカードは相手の魔法・罠・効果モンスターの効果では破壊されない。相手ターンに１度、このカードをゲームから除外する事ができる。この効果を使用したターン、相手モンスター１体の攻撃を無効にする事ができる。この効果で除外したこのカードは、そのターンのエンドフェィズ時に自分フィールド上に戻る。" Navinetwork 13:15, May 29, 2010 (GMT)

Your translation is completely correct.--Darkness 10:12, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

The confirmed Effects of Scar-Red Nova Dragon from the latest issue of V-Jump: スカーレッド・ノヴァ・ドラゴン 闇／ドラゴン／シンクロ / ☆１２／ＡＴＫ３５００ / ＤＥＦ３０００

チューナー２体＋レッド・デーモンズ・ドラゴン

このカードの攻撃力は自分の墓地に存在するチューナーの数×５００ポイントアップする。このカードは相手の魔法・罠・効果モンスターの効果では破壊されない。また、相手モンスターの攻撃宣言時、このカードをゲームから除外し、相手モンスター１体の攻撃を無効にする事ができる。エンドフェイズ時、この効果で除外したこのカードを特殊召喚する。Translated as:

Scar-Red Nova Dragon Dark/Dragon/Synchro/12/3500/3000 2 Tuners + [Red Dragon Archfiend] This card gains ATK equal to the number of Tuners in your Graveyard x 500. This card cannot be destroyed by the effects of your opponent's Magic, Traps, and Effect Monsters. When an opponent's monster declares an attack or targets this card, you can remove from play this card to negate the attack or target. If you negate an attack or target this way, Special Summon this removed from play card during the End Phase. --- Navinetwork 11:28, June 2, 2010 (GMT)

This card cannot be destroyed by the effects of your opponent's Spells, Traps, or monsters. i have one question about this , in the case of like say creature swap the control gos to your opponent , is the effects of red nova linked to the owner or the controler ? --Janlukky (talk • contribs) 18:00, March 13, 2012 (UTC)janlukky march 13, 2012

Repost of the Scans (originally posted in Starstrike Discussion)[edit]

What we CAN confirm from these are the Level and Synchro Materials (not to mention there's PURE logic in the fact Jack doesn't get this from a RIDING DUEL, which is also a requirement for something that is SPEED BASED). What you cannot confirm is whether or not Attack Gainer and Create Resonator is in the next set due to this talking about the anime and as such, not having setcodes even printed on. Doesn't say they won't, doesn't say they will. Only that Jack will use them for Scar-Red. I PERSONALLY say they won't be in set because they are clones of Flare Resonator and Synchro Magnator respectively. Extremely close clones and they are all even Tuners as well. I'm thinking they are just made to be the correct levels and work with some strategy Jack is doing. Still the scans exist and they are from WJUMP. Not something people can deny without prior drug usage or brain damage. I didn't believe it at first either, BUT I ASKED FOR PROOF AND IT WAS GIVEN QUICKLY AND CONFIRMED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM BEFORE TRUSTING BEFORE. It's like people ignore things when it makes things feel fluffy. Problem with the internet generation. ShinobiPhoenix 22:06, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Two Tuner Monsters?[edit]

Is there any proof it takes two Tuner Monsters to play this card?

  • The scans are more than enough proof. They were already translated by LeArk, Shriek and Danieru Lynx separated. Just because a monster hasn't done something before, doesn't mean one can't set a precedent. I can say these are for the anime, but in the case of Scar-Red, that is more than enough as it won't really change the requirements so much as whatever effects it has. The other two, not so much. ShinobiPhoenix 03:14, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • is there a web link to confirm this page?
  • Why would there be a website for a Japanese card YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO READ YOURSELF? Obviously, you can't read kanji or you wouldn't be asking, so you want English. No, all the info is coming from Janime, DMC and any place that has the scans and people who can translate them or spreading the original info around. If you want to suddenly disbelief people you had no problem believing before, that's your problem. People trust LeArk easily and I talk to Shriek on a daily basis and the only reason he didn't add the 2 Tuner part is because he prefers putting info about the set cards not the anime. Lynx is the one who keeps adding anime info, but it is what it is and no amount of doing this to annoy people is going to change that and both Shriek and Lynx agree on it being 2 tuners for the anime at least. The scans are FOR THE ANIME, but it's not going to change the requirements for the real card, only the effects. Obviously, people are going along with it. ShinobiPhoenix 03:49, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


Effect[edit]

Effect of this card is awesome. First, it gain attack for each tuner monsters in your graveyard x500. Second, it cannot be destroyed by card effect. It will have much attack points so its be nearly indestructible. Third, it can be removed from play to negate one attack and it is returned to the field at end of the turn. The last effect is similar to Shooting Star Dragon's anime effect. Whats are your thoughts? The King 11:13, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

And how do you know this?--Sapphire 13:27, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
It is its anime effect. The King 15:30, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Again, how do you know this? The card still has yet to fully appear in the anime, the latest Episode 111 barely mentions the name of the monster. So the episode that contains the monster's effect, has yet to come out. --Sapphire 13:32, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Again, it is anime effect. Don't you see the page of this card. There is an Effect of this card!!! The King 15:61, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Chill, King... Sapphire was mean to ask you how you learned those effect text complete, since that was still in Japan language. --FredCat100 14:25, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
I don't readed it. When I loged in there was effect on the page already. I just freaked how he asked me where i found it, thats all. The King 16:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Gotcha, I just visit there and it's already there too. Guess Sapphire should check English Anime instead of "TCG English" point. --FredCat100 14:40, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'm sorry for stressing you out, I was just curious. But could either of you post a link or something that could show me the effect of this card? Since the pic on this site is covered, and cannot be comepletely read. I'm extremely excited for when this card comes out in english, I just can't wait!--Sapphire 16:38, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

2 Tuner Monsters + "Red Dragon Archfiend" This card gains ATK equal to the number of Tuners in your Graveyard x 500. This card cannot be destroyed by the effects of your opponent's Spells, Traps, and Effect Monsters. Once during each of your opponent's turns, you can remove this card from play. During the turn in which this effect is used, you can negate the attack of 1 opposing monster. This card removed from play by this effect is returned to your side of the field during the End Phase of that turn. (Effect Unconfirmed)

That's all what it told from Article in English Anime Effect text. --FredCat100 23:31, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

I can't read Japanese, but if you look at the picture in this article it says something about 500x. So it's likely that it will retain it's first anime effect. Unless that scan was of the anime and not Starstrike...--Azure Knight-Zeo 01:16, June 3, 2010 (UTC)


It's weird that none mention that this monster has 3300 atk points, just like any other accel synchro monster. this is basically confirmed since any other accel synchoro shares the effect of removing himself from play, so we can assume that since the other 2 accel synchros have 3300, this 1 should have it to. Pato M 19:34, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

But Scar-Red Nova Dragon is not an Accel Synchro,--Sapphire 23:32, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
Indeed, as we have know so little of what is going on in Episodes; Jack is doing Ground Duel when the announce dragon coming on the scene. That therefore not Accel Synchro Monster from that point. Plus this dragon's ATK is still unconfirmed since of some strange block on that page it was revealed complete. If his ATK should be 3300 ATK, then explain to me why Red Dragon Archfiend/Assault Mode and Majestic Red Dragon has different ATK points from Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode (by 500 points) and Majestic Star Dragon (by 200 points) respective? --FredCat100 23:44, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
In my opinion, I believe that this monster in particular would be somewhere in between the ATK points of Red Dragon Archfiend/Assault Mode and Majestic Red Dragon, just like Shooting Star Dragon's ATK points are in between Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode and Majestic Star Dragon. Which would probably put SRND at 3800 points--Sapphire 13:52, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

3000 DEF?[edit]

what makes you so sure it has 3000 DEF?!

Now, thats the confusing part. If you have noticed before, all evolutions, and inlcuding, of Stardust Dragon and Red Dragon Archfiend have the same defense. SD and RDA have 2000 DEF, their Assault Modes both have 2500 DEF, and both Majestic forms have 3000 DEF. But how come SRND and Shooting Star Dragon don't have the same DEF?--Sapphire 09:15, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
i'm just curious. that's all.
  • probably their DEF equals to their ATK of their necessary synchro material: Shooting Star Dragon's DEF is 2500 same as Stardust Dragon's ATK and this card's DEF is 3000 same as Red Dragon Archfiend's ATK.
  • probably you haven't noticed but they don't have the same level so maybe the defense too is not the same

New Scan[edit]

http://pic.newwise.com/bbs_fj/day_100602/1006022359f543056324265ffc.jpg

Translations available on Janime's Forum: http://www.janime.eu/showthread.php/43284-Set-702-Starstrike-Blast/page6

the accel synchros have a shared effect[edit]

whenever their targeted by the synchro killers they remove themselves from play and return on the end phase and i think this is jack s accel synchro When your opponent's monster declares an attack, you can remove from play this card to negate that monster's attack. During the End Phase, Special Summon this card that was removed from play by this effect.--Sartorias 13:32, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

you can say that they share a common effect but it in anime, jack summoned this monster in a normal duel. So it is not an accel synchro monster. furthermore, unlike in real life, only the accel synchro monster is capable of doing accel synchro. since SRND does not that effect, it is not an accel synchro monster —This unsigned comment was made by Holydragoncrusher (talk • contribs)

But still, Jack can summon him the normal way in Turbo Duel, like his former Synchro Monster; Red Dragon Archfiend and other. And btw, please sign this ~~~~ when you post a new comment or new topic. --FredCat100 12:02, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

This isn¨ t an accel synchro[edit]

Scar Red Nova Dragon is not an accel synchro because you not required an synchro tuner monster, but is similar to shooting star dragon (both effects includes tuners; can especial summon during the end phase and cannot affected by effects in different ways).

Scar Red Nova Dragon needs 2 tuners and Shooting Star Dragon needs a synchro tuner [[Supreme Rose King Your right plus Shooting star dragon is so much better besides the fact the its harder to summon cause you need to synchro summon stardust dragon and then synchro summon a synchro tuner monster but i can understand it cause Shooting dragon would beat down Red-Nova dragon. Red Nova has more atk normally besides it's no destruct eff and power boost. Don't think Shooting Star can ever come to Nova's level.

Scar-Red -> Scarred[edit]

The Japanese text of " スカーレッド " translates to "Scarred". The " ー " is not a hyphen, it is a vowel emphasizer. The word "Scarred" does not have it's own natural Japanese word, so it must be "made". " スカー " translates to "Scar", while " レッド " translates to "red". However, there is no hyphen, so it is one word: "Scarred". DemonGodAsura 01:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh, I'm led to believe the ー symbol can also denote a pause, i.e. "Suka (pause) Reddo Doragon." I honestly don't know what to say on this one... scar-red does just reek of shitty Wikia translating though, which has become par for the course for this interweb armpit of a wiki. 70.138.173.219 03:42, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
The word スカー translates into Scarr, so the correct name SHOULD be Scarred Nova Dragon. I don't know a lot of Japanese, but I'm sure about this, even though Scarred doesn't make a lot of sense for that Dragon. OMG! You did it 04:01, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
You have no idea what you're talking about, it translates into "Suka," with emphasis on the "a" sound, or at least a pause after it. レッド is the same "reddo" in "Reddo Demonzu Doragon," or in English, "Red Demons' Dragon," where it is used as the color Red, meaning you say "Scar," then the word "Red." It's definitely a play on words, but I'm starting to move into the "Scar-Red" camp here, after breaking down the Kana in the name of the card. 70.138.173.219 04:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

(Please stay out of this discussion if you don't know anything about Japanese and are just going to support whatever translation you think is "coolest" or "best" sounding.) 70.138.173.219 04:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

TCG Name[edit]

This card's name is Red Nova Dragon, so please don't move it to anything else, proof is here: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/products/tin-2010w2-RND.html --AARONmeister (talk • contribs) 19:26, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Can this card be destroyed by Monster effect or only by Spell and Trap card effect?Vandalgion (talk • contribs) 16:27, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

To answer that question, it's become unaffected to be destruction under your opponent's cards effect. So that included Exiled Force, Lightning Vortex, Ring of Destruction, etc. that were controlling by your opponent. Tough as steel. --FredCat T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:03, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Earthbound Immortal?[edit]

Is Red Nova Dragon an earthbound immortal or not because in the earhtbound immortals page it listed red nova dragon as one of them.MegarockMaster77 (talk • contribs) 20:34, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think in the Anime Jack fused it with the boss of the Earthbound Immortals, I don't watch the anime, so I think that's it. -Gmn1997

Like Gmn1997 said, that is Synchro but Advanced version of Red Dragon Archfiend, only joined with the ancient EBI by using the power of "Burning Soul" that Jack possessed from his ancestor. --FredCat T.P. • F.R. • J.R. • W.S. 23:01, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

But thats not a good reason to add Earthbound Immortal can someone add a more logical explanation --Veriteo (talk • contribs) 16:25, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Of course, Nova Dragon is not perfectly "Earthbound Immortal", it only absorbed the power from one of them. --iFredCat 16:37, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Veriteo...how is that not a good reason (he fused an Earthbound God with a Signer Dragon, you don't need further evidence of it being part an Earthbound god)? Shardsilver (talk • contribs) 17:05, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Should Quasar Dragon be listed as Timelord since Z-ONE update it using their power ?--Veriteo (talk • contribs) 19:03, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

When did that happen? And if it did, yeah, it should be listed as related. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 19:19, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
It never did happen. The timelords have nothing to do with Quasar. Yusei created it on his own using Limit Over Accel Synchro, without the power of the timelords. Neos01 (talk • contribs) 19:23, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Two Tuners[edit]

"The monsters needed are typically any one Tuner Monster and any one (or more) non-Tuner Monster(s) whose combined Levels must equal the Level of the Synchro Monster you are planning to bring out, otherwise, you cannot perform the Synchro Summon (exceptions include "Red Nova Dragon" and "XX-Saber Gottoms")." (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Synchro_Material_Monsters) So, do you NOT need to have the tuners and Red Dragon Archfiend's level equal 12? As in, you could, say... You have Red Dragon Archfiend on the field already. You Normal Summon a Debris Dragon from your hand and use it's effect to revive another tuner monster with <500ATK (Let's say Turbo Synchron.) So then you can double tune the Level 4 Debris Dragon and Level 1 Turbo Synchron with the Level 8 Red Dragon Archfiend (Total Level:13) and you're allowed to Synchro Summon the Level 12 Red Nova Dragon.

Is that correct? Or is it suppose to mean that instead of the one tuner, you use two, but the level must equal 12?Zixum (talk • contribs) 22:29, October 5, 2010 (UTC) 17:25 CST 2010, October 5th.

They are exceptions in that they are the two monsters who can use more than one tuner monster in their synchro summoning. The levels of the synchro material monsters still have to match. So for XX Saber Gottoms, you can tune using a Junk Warrior and two Sword Masters, and for Red Nova, you can use Red Dragon Archfiend and two Road Synchrons.--Karkashan (talk • contribs) 01:08, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Like Karkashan said, Synchro Summon ruling is still same as you do with original Synchro Monster with single Tuner. Red Nova Dragon and XX-Saber Gottoms required to have exact level matched with their Tuner(s) and Non-Tuner(s). Red Nova Dragon need Red Dragon Archfiend (8 or whatever, depend on how your deck affect him) and two individual Tuners (3 + 1, 2 + 2, etc, like on main Synchro Monster, depend on what your deck effect them) to Synchro Summon "Red Nova Dragon", as long as they matched up to level 12. For explain; like Red Dragon Archfiend (9, raised by Noisy Gnat) with 2 Tuners (Level 2 and Level 1, possible to be Road Synchron (he reduced himself if tuned to other Synchro without "Road Warrior") and Turbo Synchron). --FredCat Ta.P. • F.P. • J.R. • W.S. • Th.P. • S.C. 01:15, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anime Effect[edit]

In Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode 131, Jack used the remove to negate an attack effect during his opponent's Main Phase. Should the anime effect be changed so that it is similar to that of Necro Gardna? -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 08:23, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

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