Talk:The Eye of Timaeus
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Timaeus effect[edit]
Refering to this diff; "Dark Magician Girl" reverted to normal because Timaeus effect wore off. And that was because Timaeus refused to be on Yugi's side of the field because he played "The Seal or Orichalcos". -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Any reason to explain why he refused? --Dark Yugi 16:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- It could be a plot hole. There are many in fillers MezzoDragon 20:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ah. Now I get it, as for the summoning part, Yami had said 'merge' each time when using Timaeus, so doesn't that hint a Fusion, thus the Fusion Summon from Extra Deck part? Feel free to prove me wrong. --Dark Yugi 17:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
If we were to add Timeaus effect based exactly on how it was perceived in the anime, using TCG terminology, it would be:
- Select 1 monsters you control, it gains the following effects, depending on its name:
●"Dark Magician": This card's name is treated as "Amulet Dragon". Its original ATK becomes 2900. This card gains 300 ATK for every Spell Card in your Graveyard.
●"Dark Magician Girl": This card's name is treated as "Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight". Its original ATK becomes 2600. When this card battles an opponent's monster, you can discard 1 card to negate the Battle Damage and destroy the opponent's monster.
-- Deltaneos (talk) 18:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Vs. Weevil[edit]
When Yami tried to use The Eye of Timaeus, it refused to activate. This is completely confusing, and obviously not possible if this card was real. May someone explain, please. MezzoDragon 19:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- It wasn't part of the rules themselves. In the anime and manga when something external has an effect on the Duel, the players have no choice but to accept it and play on. Like when Seto Kaiba weakened "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" in Yugi's Duel with Ventriloquist of the Dead/Ghost Kaiba. -- Deltaneos (talk) 18:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- I believe this is bested summed up by Little Kuriboh and the Abridged series. Kaiba ~ Screw the rules, I have Money. -and- Yugi ~ Screw the rules, I have Plot. FireFlood 02:46, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
Enough speculation[edit]
Can we please stop trying to make up our effects for the Legendary Dragons that make them fit into real life rules?
- "The Eye of Timaeus" effect was it combines with a monster to Summon a new monster.
- "The Claw of Hermos" effect was that it combines with a monster to create an Equip Spell Card.
- "The Fang of Critias" effect was that it combines with a Trap Card to create a monster.
Vague as they are, that is all we were told. I think that is what we should enter as the effect for the dragons, so we're not making any assumptions or making up our own effects. None of those combinations were actual cards, so can we stop writing their effects to say that they are? Where would Yugi and Joey have gotten "Time Magic Hammer" and "Goddess Bow" to include in their Main Decks? When Yugi is duelling Rafael for the first time after he Summons "Dark Magician Girl The Dragon Knight", "Dark Magician Girl" is still seen on his Duel Disk. When Joey was against Mai the first time, his Spell & Trap Card Zone was empty while "The Fiend Megacyber" was equipped with "Time Magic Hammer", implying it wasn't an actual card. -- Deltaneos (talk) 03:20, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I completely agree with Deltaneos on this issue. The Legendary Dragon cards only exist in the anime, and their appearance always involves a significant bit of rule stretching & bending. There is really no point in specifying whether that card comes from the Fusion Deck, Extra Deck or whatnot. A typical description of a Legendary Monster card activation during a duel should be limited to the following (for example): "Yugi activates The Eye of Timaeus and combines it with "Dark Magician Girl" to form "Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight". Note how I used the words "activate" and "combine". Combine is not a word that exists in the rulebook, but its specific use here emphasizes that this is not a regular Fusion. It is another thing entirely which exists separately from official rules. (--Mpanty (talk) 05:24, February 5, 2010 (UTC))
There's no need for more speculation? What's the fun in that?![edit]
I just edited The Eye of Tomaeus. I've made it into a continuous spell similar to the Trap Monsters(see Cyber Shadow Gardna). I did however make it a bit different: It doesn't have an "also treated as a magic card" clause, and it is classed as an effect monster from the moment it is played, which is also when it summons itself; thus it is unaffected by Spell Canceller and there is no point putting it in the back row first.
As for the fusion summons(or whatever you want to call them), that's easy to explain; the anime doesn't have an extra deck. Don't me believe me? Think about it, have you ever seen a character holding a fusion monster card? The fusion monsters are just stored within the programming of Kaiba's holographic technology.
Beta Warrior: Pojo Forums. —This unsigned comment was made by 58.96.72.137 (talk • contribs) 08:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
- @Beta Warrior: Fusion Monsters are physical cards within the anime, as Yugi's Fusion Monsters have had several appearances, outside of duels.
- Two such examples are:
- Episode 135: right after Yugi's duel with Kaiba, Dark Paladin is visible on his Duel Disk to the left of Red-Eyes B. Dragon.
- Episode 220, both Gaia the Dragon Champion and Dark Paladin are shown during the deck construction scenes, for Yugi and Yami Yugi respectively.
- So there you go, undeniable proof that you were wrong. There may not be extra deck limitations in the anime, but that doesn't mean the cards aren't real.
