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| [[Grandsoil the Elemental Lord]]
 
| [[Grandsoil the Elemental Lord]]
| Lack of a once per turn restriction for its Special Summon effect allowed infinite loops. For example: with the proper setup, "[[Firewall Dragon]]" can return this card to the hand, then be used to Special Summon another "Firewall Dragon". This card can then Special Summon itself, and revive the spent "Firewall Dragon", which also resets its bounce effect. Can also be looped with cards such as [[Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier]] (Limited) and Mist Valley Shaman. It's very unusual in the fact that all other [[Elemental Lord]]s do have a once per turn restriction to stop these sorts of shenanigans, which makes one wonder why they excluded this card from it. This card is Unlimited in the OCG, where it has received an errata to give it said restriction.
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| Uniquely among "[[Elemental Lord]]" cards, its activated effect was originally not a hard once-per-turn, which allowed for infinite loops. For example: with the proper setup, [[Firewall Dragon]] (now Limited) could return this card to the hand, then be used to Special Summon another Firewall Dragon. This card can then Special Summon itself, and revive the spent Firewall Dragon, which also resets its bounce effect. It could also be looped with cards such as [[Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier]] (Limited) and Mist Valley Shaman. This card has since been errata'd to add the restriction, though. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Lavalval Chain|<font color="#99CCFF">Lavalval Chain</font>]]
 
| [[Lavalval Chain|<font color="#99CCFF">Lavalval Chain</font>]]
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| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]
 
| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]
| Very powerful boss monster in [[Qli]]s. Easily Tribute Summoned when released due to the initial swarming capabilities of the archetype. While in the OCG the ubiquity of [[Number S39: Utopia the Lightning|Utopia the Lightning]] prevented this from becoming enough of a threat to be Forbidden, a lot of Decks in the TCG were incapable of removing this card due to its immunity to most effects and it reducing the ATK of Special Summoned monsters by 500, forcing them to run specific counter cards like [[Heroic Champion - Excalibur]]. However, it could easily dealt with the release of more generic counter cards such as [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Kaiju]]s. Now not nearly as powerful due to New Master Rules making harder to gather enough Tributes, but can still a force to be reckoned with, especially if you lock out the [[Extra Deck]] with cards like [[Domain of the True Monarchs]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Powerful boss monster in [[Qli]]s. Could easily be Tribute Summoned when released due to the initial swarming capabilities of the archetype. While in the OCG the ubiquity of [[Number S39: Utopia the Lightning|Utopia the Lightning]] prevented this from becoming enough of a threat to be Forbidden, a lot of Decks in the TCG were incapable of removing this card due to its immunity to most effects and it reducing the ATK of Special Summoned monsters by 500, forcing them to run specific counter cards like [[Heroic Champion - Excalibur]]. However, it could easily be dealt with after the release of more generic counter cards such as [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Kaiju]]s. Now not nearly as powerful due to New Master Rules making harder to gather enough Tributes, but can still be a force to be reckoned with, especially if you lock out the [[Extra Deck]] with cards like [[Domain of the True Monarchs]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Babycerasaurus]]
 
| [[Babycerasaurus]]
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| [[Ignis Heat, the True Dracowarrior]]
 
| [[Ignis Heat, the True Dracowarrior]]
| Allows easy searching and/or activation of [[True Draco]] and [[True King]] Continuous Spells directly from the deck, though this is less devastating than "[[Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter]]" as the effects of the Continuous Spells can only be activated during the player's turn. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Allows easy searching and/or activation of [[True Draco]] and [[True King]] Continuous Spells directly from the Deck, though this is less devastating than "[[Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter]]" as the effects of the Continuous Spells can only be activated during the player's turn. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Ignister Prominence, the Blasting Dracoslayer]]
 
| [[Ignister Prominence, the Blasting Dracoslayer]]
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| [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]]
 
| [[Neo-Spacian Grand Mole]]
| Can create locks, especially with [[Kaiser Colosseum]] (Forbidden in the TCG). Easily takes out boss monsters, particularly those with specialized Summoning requirements, and does not destroy or target. However, it needs to battle to use its effect. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Can create locks, especially with [[Kaiser Colosseum]] (Forbidden in the TCG). Easily takes out boss monsters, particularly those with specialized Summoning requirements, and does not destroy or target. However, it needs to battle to use its effect, and is not used that often now anyway. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Night Assailant]]
 
| [[Night Assailant]]
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| [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
 
| [[Compulsory Evacuation Device]]
| An easy out to most monsters. With Priority revoked, this card has become even more powerful. Can also be used on your own monsters to save them from Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, etc. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| An easy out to most monsters, which only became more powerful with the removal of the priority system of activating Spells/Traps. Can also be used on your own monsters to save them from Dark Hole, Torrential Tribute, etc. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Ceasefire]]
 
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| [[Ring of Destruction]]
 
| [[Ring of Destruction]]
| Was formerly Forbidden for causing too many draws in Tournaments and messing up Ranked Games. Instant destruction and serious burn. Lethal when combined with cards like [[Barrel Behind the Door]] or [[Spell of Pain]]. However, the effect has now been errata'd so it can only be used during the opponent's turn, can only be used on an opponent's monster with equal to or less ATK than the opponent's LP, and makes you take damage first, so it can't force tied games. Even now though, it's still very viable when compared to other banned cards errated recently, so it couldn't go back to 3.
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| Was formerly Forbidden for causing too many draws in Tournaments and messing up Ranked Games. Instant destruction and serious burn. Lethal when combined with cards like [[Barrel Behind the Door]] or [[Spell of Pain]]. However, the effect has now been errata'd so it can only be used during the opponent's turn, can only be used on an opponent's monster with equal to or less ATK than the opponent's LP, and makes you take damage first, so it can't force tied games. Even after the balancing errata, though, it is still viable.
 
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| [[Skill Drain]]
 
| [[Skill Drain]]
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| [[Chain Strike]]
 
| [[Chain Strike]]
| Inflicts massive damage if used right. Key card of Chain Burn Decks such as [[Burn#Chain_Strike_OTK|Chain Strike OTK]].
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| Inflicts massive damage if used right. Key card of Chain Burn Decks such as [[Burn#Chain Strike OTK|Chain Strike OTK]], which use high numbers of chainable Spells/Traps to achieve ludicrous damage.
 
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| [[Fossil Dig]]
 
| [[Fossil Dig]]

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List

Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

In case someone somehow missed it. Click "Show" on the right side of the bar.
This list is for the people who are curious about why certain cards are banned/limited.
This list can also assist people before posting a prediction on the next banlist.
Please help out by pointing out changes that should be made in the list (if any) (please include reasons).
And for those who are wondering. No, I didn't make this list recently. It been on 2 other forums before. This is the most updated version of it as the other 2 aren't being updated.
See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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