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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Forbidden|<span style="color:white;">Forbidden</span>]]
 
! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Forbidden|<span style="color:white;">Forbidden</span>]]
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| [[Amazoness Archer]]
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| One of several "tribute monsters to inflict burn damage" cards to be Forbidden (see [[Cannon Soldier]] below). Like the others, it has no turn restriction, leading to burn FTKs. This one in particular is searchable, by cards such as [[Amazoness Call]]. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Ancient Fairy Dragon]]
 
| [[Ancient Fairy Dragon]]
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| [[Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos]]
 
| [[Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos]]
| rowspan="4" | Incredibly powerful Dragon monsters. Can be Special Summoned easily from the hand or Graveyard by banishing any 2 Dragon monsters and/or monsters of their same Attributes from the hand or Graveyard. Can be put into just about any dragon Deck or Deck of their own attributes to add huge power and consistency. At more than 1, they can search another copy of themselves when they're banished to Summon another Dragon Ruler, or when banished with [[Sacred Sword of Seven Stars]] or [[Gold Sarcophagus]]. The release of [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon]] was likely the final nail in the coffin of these 4 cards, as players could easily dump three of four Dragon Rulers into the Graveyard on Turn 1 when Summoning Dark Matter Dragon for an easy OTK.  
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| rowspan="4" | Incredibly powerful Dragon monsters. Can be Special Summoned easily from the hand or Graveyard by banishing any 2 Dragon monsters and/or monsters of their same Attributes from the hand or Graveyard. Can be put into just about any dragon Deck or Deck of their own attributes to add huge power and consistency. At more than 1, they can search another copy of themselves when they're banished to Summon another Dragon Ruler, or when banished with [[Sacred Sword of Seven Stars]] or [[Gold Sarcophagus]]. Can be used in OTKs with [[Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon]], as one can simply dump 3 Dragon Rulers into the Graveyard when Summoning it, allowing the DRulers to be revived or to search other Dragon monsters. Tempest is Limited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders]]
 
| [[Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders]]
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| [[Cannon Soldier]]
 
| [[Cannon Soldier]]
 
| A classic burn FTK enabler which can be used in many strategies. [[Mass Driver]] (also Forbidden) on legs, which was spared being Forbidden for so long since it has the disadvantage of requiring a Normal Summon or another card to Special Summon it. When methods to Summon monsters easily became much more viable, that was ultimately that for this card. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
| A classic burn FTK enabler which can be used in many strategies. [[Mass Driver]] (also Forbidden) on legs, which was spared being Forbidden for so long since it has the disadvantage of requiring a Normal Summon or another card to Special Summon it. When methods to Summon monsters easily became much more viable, that was ultimately that for this card. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| [[Cannon Soldier MK-2]]
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| Another Cannon Soldier (above). Requires more setup to pull off, but has the same end effect: a burn FTK. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
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| [[Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End]]
 
| [[Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End]]
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| [[El Shaddoll Construct]]
 
| [[El Shaddoll Construct]]
| Key Fusion Monster in Shaddoll Decks along with [[El Shaddoll Winda]] (below). Sets up combos by sending ANY "Shaddoll" card from your Deck to the Graveyard once Fusion Summoned, can send useful LIGHT monsters from the Deck to the Graveyard when using "[[Shaddoll Fusion]]", and can autokill any Special Summoned monster when it battles. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
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| Key Fusion Monster in Shaddoll Decks along with [[El Shaddoll Winda]] (below). Sets up combos by sending ANY "Shaddoll" card from your Deck to the Graveyard once Fusion Summoned, can send useful LIGHT monsters from the Deck to the Graveyard when using "[[Shaddoll Fusion]]", and can autokill any Special Summoned monster when it battles. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
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|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
 
| [[Elder Entity Norden]]
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| [[Knightmare Goblin|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare Goblin</font>]]
 
| [[Knightmare Goblin|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare Goblin</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">Key card to a [[Knightmare|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare</font>]] lockdown. Generates advantage with its draw and Normal Summon. An Extra Link with this card (along with [[Knightmare Mermaid|<font color="#99CCFF">Mermaid</font>]], [[Knightmare Cerberus|<font color="#99CCFF">Cerberus</font>]], and [[Knightmare Phoenix|<font color="#99CCFF">Phoenix</font>]]) locks the opponent out from using the Extra Deck at all and is untargetable by card effects on any of its links, which can prevent the opponent from playing at all. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">Key card to a [[Knightmare|<font color="#99CCFF">Knightmare</font>]] lockdown. Generates advantage with its draw and Normal Summon. An Extra Link with this card (along with [[Knightmare Mermaid|<font color="#99CCFF">Mermaid</font>]], [[Knightmare Cerberus|<font color="#99CCFF">Cerberus</font>]], and [[Knightmare Phoenix|<font color="#99CCFF">Phoenix</font>]]) locks the opponent out from using the Extra Deck at all and is untargetable by card effects on any of its links, which can prevent the opponent from playing at all. This card is Limited in the OCG.</span>
 
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|- style= "background-color:black;"
 
| [[Lavalval Chain|<font color="#99CCFF">Lavalval Chain</font>]]
 
| [[Lavalval Chain|<font color="#99CCFF">Lavalval Chain</font>]]
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| [[Number 16: Shock Master|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 16: Shock Master</font>]]
 
| [[Number 16: Shock Master|<font color="#99CCFF">Number 16: Shock Master</font>]]
 
| <span style="color: white"> Creates an immediate lock/OTK and can ruin an entire Deck, depending on what type of card they use most. Easily Summoned first turn in most Rank 4 Xyz Decks. Can outright win games if played alongside other lockdown cards. </span>
 
| <span style="color: white"> Creates an immediate lock/OTK and can ruin an entire Deck, depending on what type of card they use most. Easily Summoned first turn in most Rank 4 Xyz Decks. Can outright win games if played alongside other lockdown cards. </span>
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| [[Performage Damage Juggler]]
 
| Insanely splashable utility. Key card in Performage Decks. Can negate burn effects or stop OTKs from hand while providing crazy consistency to any Deck running Performages from Graveyard. Mainly hit due to Performage Performapal (PePe) Decks that were topping everywhere. This card is Limited in the TCG.
 
 
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| [[Performage Plushfire]]
 
| [[Performage Plushfire]]
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| [[Substitoad]]
 
| [[Substitoad]]
 
| Poorly designed card, [[Card Tips:Substitoad|able to mill most of your Deck in one turn]]. No once per turn restriction. Combos well with [[Pot of Avarice]] (which is also Forbidden in the TCG). See also: [[Frog Burn FTK]] (The most consistent burn OTK/FTK Deck for the March 2010 format). [[Tradetoad]] was designed to be a fair version of it.
 
| Poorly designed card, [[Card Tips:Substitoad|able to mill most of your Deck in one turn]]. No once per turn restriction. Combos well with [[Pot of Avarice]] (which is also Forbidden in the TCG). See also: [[Frog Burn FTK]] (The most consistent burn OTK/FTK Deck for the March 2010 format). [[Tradetoad]] was designed to be a fair version of it.
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| [[Summon Sorceress|<font color="#99CCFF">Summon Sorceress</font>]]
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| <span style="color: white">Extremely powerful. Sets up various FTKs by pulling just the card you need (usually one of the Cannon Soldier-type burn cards) straight from the Deck. Your opponent gaining a card doesn't matter, as they'll never get to use it. Also sets up various powerful fields, especially in conjuction with [[Firewall Dragon|<font color="#99CCFF">Firewall Dragon</font>]] and/or [[Crystron Needlefiber|<font color="#99CCFF">Crystron Needlefiber</font>]]. Highly abusable in [[A-to-Z|<font color="#99CCFF">ABCs</font>]]. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.</span>
 
|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
| [[Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom]]
 
| [[Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom]]
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[That Grass Looks Greener]]
 
| [[That Grass Looks Greener]]
| Powerful, costless Graveyard setup card that instantly sends cards from your Deck to the Graveyard until you have the same number of cards in your Deck as your opponent. Similar to [[Monster Gate]] and [[Reasoning]] (both Limited), but can be better since there is more control over the number of milled cards. Mainly hit due to abuse in 60-card Decks that focus heavily on [[Infernoid]]s, [[Paleozoic]]s, and [[Fairy Tail - Snow]] (Limited in the OCG.) since it can instantly send 20 cards from your Deck to your Graveyard against most other Decks that run only 40 cards. Can be searched by [[Left Arm Offering]]. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.  
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| Powerful, costless Graveyard setup card that instantly sends cards from your Deck to the Graveyard until you have the same number of cards in your Deck as your opponent. Similar to [[Monster Gate]] and [[Reasoning]] (both Limited), but can be better since there is more control over the number of milled cards. Mainly hit due to abuse in 60-card Decks that focus heavily on [[Infernoid]]s, [[Paleozoic]]s, and [[Fairy Tail - Snow]] (Limited in the OCG.) since it can instantly send 20 cards from your Deck to your Graveyard against most other Decks that run only 40 cards. Can be searched by [[Left Arm Offering]]. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.  
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[The Forceful Sentry]]
 
| [[The Forceful Sentry]]
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| [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]]
 
| [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]]
 
| Key card in Burning Abyss. Can Special Summon any Burning Abyss monster from your Graveyard whenever it's sent to the Graveyard, allowing easy recovery, or to Summon another [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss]], [[Virgil, Rock Star of the Burning Abyss]], or get setup for [[Fire Lake of the Burning Abyss]] again mid to late-game. Can be searched by Tour Guide from the Underworld and [[Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]] (both Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
| Key card in Burning Abyss. Can Special Summon any Burning Abyss monster from your Graveyard whenever it's sent to the Graveyard, allowing easy recovery, or to Summon another [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss]], [[Virgil, Rock Star of the Burning Abyss]], or get setup for [[Fire Lake of the Burning Abyss]] again mid to late-game. Can be searched by Tour Guide from the Underworld and [[Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss]] (both Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss|<font color="99CCFF">Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss</font>]]
 
| <span style="color: white"> A generic Rank 3 Xyz Monster that can easily fill the Graveyard with monsters, such as [[Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Burning Abyss</font>]] and [[Phantom Knight|<font color="#99CCFF">Phantom Knight</font>]] monsters for easy advantage. Can replace or even recycle another copy of itself once it is sent to the Graveyard through any means, and can also be used to easily Xyz Summon [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal|<font color="#99CCFF">Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal</font>]] (Limited in the TCG). It also forms a small loop with [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss</font>]] (Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.</span>
 
 
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Dark Armed Dragon]]
 
| [[Dark Armed Dragon]]
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| [[Evigishki Gustkraken|<font color="#99CCFF">Evigishki Gustkraken</font>]]
 
| [[Evigishki Gustkraken|<font color="#99CCFF">Evigishki Gustkraken</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">Awesome Hand control card. There is a loop where this card is used within a [[Gishki|<font color="#99CCFF">Gishki</font>]]-[[Hieratic|<font color="#99CCFF">Hieratic</font>]] hybrid Deck and can be bounced repeatedly with [[Constellar Ptolemy M7|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Ptolemy M7</font>]] to shut down the opponent's hand. It didn't help that Hieratics Summon Level 6 monsters with the greatest of ease. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">Awesome Hand control card. There is a loop where this card is used within a [[Gishki|<font color="#99CCFF">Gishki</font>]]-[[Hieratic|<font color="#99CCFF">Hieratic</font>]] hybrid Deck and can be bounced repeatedly with [[Constellar Ptolemy M7|<font color="#99CCFF">Constellar Ptolemy M7</font>]] to shut down the opponent's hand. It didn't help that Hieratics Summon Level 6 monsters with the greatest of ease. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.</span>
 
|- style="background-color:#6666FF;"
 
|- style="background-color:#6666FF;"
 
| [[Evigishki Mind Augus|<font color="#99CCFF">Evigishki Mind Augus</font>]]
 
| [[Evigishki Mind Augus|<font color="#99CCFF">Evigishki Mind Augus</font>]]
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| [[Nekroz of Brionac|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Brionac</font>]]
 
| [[Nekroz of Brionac|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Brionac</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">Key card in [[Nekroz|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz</font>]]. Simply by discarding itself, it can search effectively ANY Nekroz card (including Spells, thanks to [[Nekroz of Clausolas|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Clausolas</font>]]). Can also be Summoned to return up to 2 monsters Special Summoned from the Extra Deck back to the Deck, easily clearing the field.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">Key card in [[Nekroz|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz</font>]]. Simply by discarding itself, it can search effectively ANY Nekroz card (including Spells, thanks to [[Nekroz of Clausolas|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Clausolas</font>]]). Can also be Summoned to return up to 2 monsters Special Summoned from the Extra Deck back to the Deck, easily clearing the field. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.</span>
 
|- style="background-color:#6666FF;"
 
|- style="background-color:#6666FF;"
 
| [[Nekroz of Unicore|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Unicore</font>]]
 
| [[Nekroz of Unicore|<font color="#99CCFF">Nekroz of Unicore</font>]]
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| [[Night Assailant]]
 
| [[Night Assailant]]
 
| Must be at 1 otherwise this card will just recycle the other one when discarded and an infinite loop will be created making +0 discards, which would lead to cards like [[Snipe Hunter]] wiping out your whole field or [[Dark Crusader]] having Unlimited attack points, etc.
 
| Must be at 1 otherwise this card will just recycle the other one when discarded and an infinite loop will be created making +0 discards, which would lead to cards like [[Snipe Hunter]] wiping out your whole field or [[Dark Crusader]] having Unlimited attack points, etc.
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| [[Performage Damage Juggler]]
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| Insanely splashable utility. Key card in Performage Decks. Can negate burn effects or stop OTKs from hand while providing crazy consistency to any Deck running Performages from Graveyard. Mainly hit due to Performage Performapal (PePe) Decks that were topping everywhere.
 
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| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
 
| [[Predaplant Ophrys Scorpio]]
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| [[SPYRAL GEAR - Drone]]
 
| [[SPYRAL GEAR - Drone]]
| Key card in [[SPYRAL]]s. Rearranges the top 3 cards of the opponent's deck upon being summoned, eliminating any guesswork on the player's part for big plays, unless your opponent plays a Searcher immediately afterwards. Can tribute itself to permanently boost the ATK of a SPYRAL by 500 for each card your opponent controls, even during the [[Damage Step]]. Lastly, it can banish itself and another [[SPYRAL]] card from your [[Graveyard]] to retrieve [[SPYRAL Super Agent]], preparing setup for future plays. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
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| Key card in [[SPYRAL]]s. Rearranges the top 3 cards of the opponent's deck upon being summoned, eliminating any guesswork on the player's part for big plays, unless your opponent plays a Searcher immediately afterwards. Can tribute itself to permanently boost the ATK of a SPYRAL by 500 for each card your opponent controls, even during the [[Damage Step]]. Lastly, it can banish itself and another [[SPYRAL]] card from your [[Graveyard]] to retrieve [[SPYRAL Super Agent]], preparing setup for future plays. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
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| [[SPYRAL Quik-Fix]]
 
| [[SPYRAL Quik-Fix]]
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| [[A Hero Lives]]
 
| [[A Hero Lives]]
| Generates OTKs, with a cost you can always pay. Can be used with [[Elemental HERO Stratos]] (also Limited in the TCG), who then searches for [[Elemental HERO Bubbleman]], to swarm the field without using the Normal Summon. Reintroduced to the list to limit the impact of Stratos returning. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| Generates OTKs, with a cost you can always pay. Can be used with [[Elemental HERO Stratos]] (also Limited in the TCG), who then searches for [[Elemental HERO Bubbleman]], to swarm the field without using the Normal Summon. Reintroduced to the list in the TCG to limit the impact of Stratos returning.
 
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Book of Moon]]
 
| [[Book of Moon]]
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| [[Gateway of the Six]]
 
| [[Gateway of the Six]]
 
| Can gain counters whenever a Six Samurai monster is Normal or Special Summoned. With the introduction of [[Legendary Six Samurai]] monsters that can Special Summon themselves, and the ability for Gateway to remove Bushido Counters from ''anywhere'' on your side of the field, 2 or more of these would result in constant searching of Six Samurai monsters for every Summon. Can create ridiculous swarming, loops, lockdowns, and even FTKs if you control other cards that gain Bushido counters on the field. However, Six Samurais haven't been relevant in a long time, so it came back to 1. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
| Can gain counters whenever a Six Samurai monster is Normal or Special Summoned. With the introduction of [[Legendary Six Samurai]] monsters that can Special Summon themselves, and the ability for Gateway to remove Bushido Counters from ''anywhere'' on your side of the field, 2 or more of these would result in constant searching of Six Samurai monsters for every Summon. Can create ridiculous swarming, loops, lockdowns, and even FTKs if you control other cards that gain Bushido counters on the field. However, Six Samurais haven't been relevant in a long time, so it came back to 1. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| [[Gold Sarcophagus]]
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| Allows you to banish any card you want from your Deck, which is an easy search in decks that manipulate banishment. The 2-turn wait to bring the card back into your hand would balance it if there weren't so many ways to get a banished card into a usable position. Abusable with the [[Dragon Ruler]]s (Forbidden) and cards such as [[Necroface]], and more recently in [[Thunder Dragon (archetype)|Thunder Dragons]]. Its limiting also limits the impact of Tempest's return at 1. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Infernity Launcher]]
 
| [[Infernity Launcher]]
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Super Polymerization]]
 
| [[Super Polymerization]]
| Powerful, chainable Quick-Play Spell Card that cannot be chained to. Can fuse monsters from either player's side of the field to make Fusion Summons. Mainly abused in HEROes (to Fusion Summon [[Elemental HERO Absolute Zero|Absolute Zero]], [[Elemental HERO Nova Master|Nova Master]], [[Elemental HERO Gaia|Gaia]], [[Elemental HERO Great Tornado|Great Tornado]], [[Elemental HERO The Shining|The Shining]], and [[Elemental HERO Escuridao|Escuridao]]), Zombies (for [[Dragonecro Nethersoul Dragon]] while [[Zombie World]] is on the field), and [[Shaddoll]]s (For El Shaddolls [[El Shaddoll Construct|Construct]] (Forbidden in the TCG), [[El Shaddoll Winda|Winda]], [[El Shaddoll Grysta|Grysta]], [[El Shaddoll Shekhinaga|Shekhinaga]], [[El Shaddoll Wendigo|Wendigo]], and [[El Shaddoll Anomalilith|Anomalilith]]). Can also be used to fuse any two Synchro or Xyz Monsters from either side of the field to make [[Elder Entity Norden]] (Forbidden). Strong when used in [[Predaplant]]s, whose effects can easily make any monster your opponent controls an eligible material. Also viable in [[Invoked]].
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| Powerful, chainable Quick-Play Spell Card that cannot be chained to. Can fuse monsters from either player's side of the field to make Fusion Summons. Mainly abused in HEROes (to Fusion Summon [[Elemental HERO Absolute Zero|Absolute Zero]], [[Elemental HERO Nova Master|Nova Master]], [[Elemental HERO Gaia|Gaia]], [[Elemental HERO Great Tornado|Great Tornado]], [[Elemental HERO The Shining|The Shining]], and [[Elemental HERO Escuridao|Escuridao]]), Zombies (for [[Dragonecro Nethersoul Dragon]] while [[Zombie World]] is on the field), and [[Shaddoll]]s (For El Shaddolls [[El Shaddoll Construct|Construct]] (Forbidden in the TCG), [[El Shaddoll Winda|Winda]], [[El Shaddoll Grysta|Grysta]], [[El Shaddoll Shekhinaga|Shekhinaga]], [[El Shaddoll Wendigo|Wendigo]], and [[El Shaddoll Anomalilith|Anomalilith]]). Can also be used to fuse any two Synchro or Xyz Monsters from either side of the field to make [[Elder Entity Norden]] (Forbidden). Strong when used in [[Predaplant]]s, whose effects can easily make any monster your opponent controls an eligible material. Also viable in [[Invoked]]. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
 
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| [[Symbol of Heritage]]
 
| [[Symbol of Heritage]]
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| [[Macro Cosmos]]
 
| [[Macro Cosmos]]
 
| Same as Dimensional Fissure. Gives an almost automatic win against another player if they run a Graveyard-reliant Deck and you don't. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
 
| Same as Dimensional Fissure. Gives an almost automatic win against another player if they run a Graveyard-reliant Deck and you don't. This card is Unlimited in the OCG.
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| [[Ring of Destruction]]
 
| Was formerly Forbidden for causing too many draws in Tournaments and messing up Ranked Games. Instant destruction and serious burn. Lethal when combined with cards like [[Barrel Behind the Door]] or [[Spell of Pain]]. However, the effect has now been errata'd so it can only be used during the opponent's turn, can only be used on an opponent's monster with equal to or less ATK than the opponent's LP, and makes you take damage first, so it can't force tied games. Even after the balancing errata, though, it is still viable. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
 
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| [[Skill Drain]]
 
| [[Skill Drain]]
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|- style="background-color:#BC5A84;"
 
| [[True King's Return]]
 
| [[True King's Return]]
| Easily searched by [[Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter]] (also Limited), and generates easy advantage during either player's turn.
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| Easily searched by [[Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter]] (also Limited in the TCG), and generates easy advantage during either player's turn. This card is Semi-Limited in the OCG.
 
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|- style="background-color:#BC5A84;"
 
| [[Wall of Revealing Light]]
 
| [[Wall of Revealing Light]]
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Semi-Limited|<span style="color:white;">Semi-Limited</span>]]
 
! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Semi-Limited|<span style="color:white;">Semi-Limited</span>]]
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
| [[Aleister the Invoker]]
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| [[Altergeist Multifaker]]
| Easily searched by [[Magical Meltdown]] (which is searchable by [[Terraforming]], Limited in the OCG), and searches [[Invocation]] upon its Summon, which can Fusion Summon an "Invoked" Fusion Monster by using this card and monsters in either player's Graveyard. When used in combination with the [[Windwitch]] engine (see [[Windwitch - Ice Bell]]), this can result in a minimum field of [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Invoked Raidjin]], and has high versatility given the range of [[Invoked]] Fusion Monsters. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| Very easily Special Summoned, requiring only the activation of a Trap Card, and pulls a monster from the Deck for an instant [[Altergeist Hexstia]] Link Summon, which can negate any opponent's Spell/Trap you desire. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring]]
 
| [[Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring]]
 
| Hand trap that can fit into most Decks. Can negate any effect that affects the Deck, disrupting most plays in the current game and blocking combos key to the function of the Deck, which can turn a Duel one-sided. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
| Hand trap that can fit into most Decks. Can negate any effect that affects the Deck, disrupting most plays in the current game and blocking combos key to the function of the Deck, which can turn a Duel one-sided. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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|- style= "background-color:black;"
| [[Destiny HERO - Disk Commander]]
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| [[Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss|<font color="99CCFF">Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss</font>]]
| Its effect as originally printed had no restriction, which proved to be far too powerful. Several cards could revive it, and they were effectively turned into [[Pot of Greed]]s by Disk Commander's effect. It now has a new errata as of 2018, which limits the effect to once per Duel and means it can't be Special Summoned from the Graveyard in the same turn it's placed there. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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| <span style="color: white"> A generic Rank 3 Xyz Monster that can easily fill the Graveyard with monsters, such as [[Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Burning Abyss</font>]] and [[Phantom Knight|<font color="#99CCFF">Phantom Knight</font>]] monsters for easy advantage. Can replace or even recycle another copy of itself once it is sent to the Graveyard through any means, and can also be used to easily Xyz Summon [[Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal|<font color="#99CCFF">Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal</font>]] (Limited in the TCG). It also forms a small loop with [[Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss|<font color="#99CCFF">Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss</font>]] (Limited in the TCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.</span>
|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
 
| [[El Shaddoll Winda]]
 
| Key Fusion Monster in [[Shaddoll]] Decks along with [[El Shaddoll Construct]] (above). Restricts both players to 1 special Summon per turn and can't be destroyed by the opponent's card effects. Can be Fusion Summoned easily with [[Shaddoll Fusion]], [[Nepheshaddoll Fusion]] or [[El Shaddoll Fusion]], all of which can also be recycled with this card's effect. However, it isn't particularly needed on the list if Construct is Forbidden, and Shaddolls are not all that powerful anymore anyway. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Kozmo Dark Destroyer]]
 
| [[Kozmo Dark Destroyer]]
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| [[Scapegoat]]
 
| [[Scapegoat]]
 
| Originally placed on the list as it was an effective stall tool in the early competitive game, but the rise of widespread [[piercing]] damage limited that utility. Was part of the [[Goat Control]] Deck, but most of the key cards of that Deck are either Limited or Forbidden. Allows for easy Synchro Summons and ''especially'' Link Summons, where it can produce a [[Firewall Dragon]] (Limited) from just 1 card.
 
| Originally placed on the list as it was an effective stall tool in the early competitive game, but the rise of widespread [[piercing]] damage limited that utility. Was part of the [[Goat Control]] Deck, but most of the key cards of that Deck are either Limited or Forbidden. Allows for easy Synchro Summons and ''especially'' Link Summons, where it can produce a [[Firewall Dragon]] (Limited) from just 1 card.
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
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| [[Sky Striker Mecha - Widow Anchor]]
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| Generic Spell which, in the right decks, can remove an effect that's troubling you and act as a [[Change of Heart]], giving you a free Link Material. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
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| [[Sky Striker Mobilize - Engage!]]
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| If you have enough Spells in your Graveyard, it's a +1. Searches [[Sky Striker Mecha - Hornet Drones|Hornet Drones]] (Limited) and [[Sky Striker Mecha - Widow Anchor|Widow Anchor]] (also Semi-Limited in the OCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Union Hangar]]
 
| [[Union Hangar]]
 
| A strong field Spell card that can search out any LIGHT machine union monster when it's activated and can also equip a LIGHT machine Union Monster from your Deck to a LIGHT machine union monster that is Normal or special Summoned. Mainly hit due to ABC Decks that were topping in the OCG because of this card. Can be searched easily by Terraforming (Limited in the OCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
| A strong field Spell card that can search out any LIGHT machine union monster when it's activated and can also equip a LIGHT machine Union Monster from your Deck to a LIGHT machine union monster that is Normal or special Summoned. Mainly hit due to ABC Decks that were topping in the OCG because of this card. Can be searched easily by Terraforming (Limited in the OCG). This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
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|- style="background-color:#BC5A84;"
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| [[Ring of Destruction]]
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| Was formerly Forbidden for causing too many draws in Tournaments and messing up Ranked Games. Instant destruction and serious burn. Lethal when combined with cards like [[Barrel Behind the Door]] or [[Spell of Pain]]. However, the effect has now been errata'd so it can only be used during the opponent's turn, can only be used on an opponent's monster with equal to or less ATK than the opponent's LP, and makes you take damage first, so it can't force tied games. Even after the balancing errata, though, it is still viable. This card is Unlimited in the TCG.
 
|- style="background-color:#BC5A84;"
 
|- style="background-color:#BC5A84;"
 
| [[Solemn Strike]]
 
| [[Solemn Strike]]
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| [[Abyss Soldier]]
 
| [[Abyss Soldier]]
 
| Semi-Limited from April '05 to Sept '05 due to its abuse with [[Sinister Serpent]], allowing free bouncing, once per turn. After Sinister Serpent got Forbidden, this came off the list.
 
| Semi-Limited from April '05 to Sept '05 due to its abuse with [[Sinister Serpent]], allowing free bouncing, once per turn. After Sinister Serpent got Forbidden, this came off the list.
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Aleister the Invoker]]
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| Easily searched by [[Magical Meltdown]] (which is searchable by [[Terraforming]], Limited in the OCG), and searches [[Invocation]] upon its Summon, which can Fusion Summon an "Invoked" Fusion Monster by using this card and monsters in either player's Graveyard. When used in combination with the [[Windwitch]] engine (see [[Windwitch - Ice Bell]]), this can result in a minimum field of [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Invoked Raidjin]], and has high versatility given the range of [[Invoked]] Fusion Monsters.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Apprentice Magician]]
 
| [[Apprentice Magician]]
 
| Was used to get [[Magician of Faith]] from your Deck face-down to get access to its effect. Nephthys Decks also used it to search [[Hand of Nephthys]] to quickly Summon [[Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys]]. The Apprentice Magician > [[Old Vindictive Magician]] [[Monarch]] combo didn't really contribute to its initial Semi-Limitation, so it came off the list. Also, Flip Effect monsters are considered to be too slow nowadays.
 
| Was used to get [[Magician of Faith]] from your Deck face-down to get access to its effect. Nephthys Decks also used it to search [[Hand of Nephthys]] to quickly Summon [[Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys]]. The Apprentice Magician > [[Old Vindictive Magician]] [[Monarch]] combo didn't really contribute to its initial Semi-Limitation, so it came off the list. Also, Flip Effect monsters are considered to be too slow nowadays.
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]
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| Powerful boss monster in [[Qli]]s. Could easily be Tribute Summoned when released due to the initial swarming capabilities of the archetype. While in the OCG the ubiquity of [[Number S39: Utopia the Lightning|Utopia the Lightning]] prevented this from becoming enough of a threat to be Forbidden, a lot of Decks in the TCG were incapable of removing this card due to its immunity to most effects and it reducing the ATK of Special Summoned monsters by 500, forcing them to run specific counter cards like [[Heroic Champion - Excalibur]]. However, it could easily be dealt with after the release of more generic counter cards such as [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Kaiju]]s. Now not nearly as powerful due to New Master Rules making harder to gather enough Tributes, but can still be a force to be reckoned with, especially if you lock out the [[Extra Deck]] with cards like [[Domain of the True Monarchs]].
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Archlord Kristya]]
 
| [[Archlord Kristya]]
 
| Strong ATK, seals Special Summons, and is difficult to get rid of since it goes back to the top of the Deck instead of the Graveyard. Generates a +1 when Special Summoned. Came off due to lack of use in the current meta.
 
| Strong ATK, seals Special Summons, and is difficult to get rid of since it goes back to the top of the Deck instead of the Graveyard. Generates a +1 when Special Summoned. Came off due to lack of use in the current meta.
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Apoqliphort Towers]]
 
| Powerful boss monster in [[Qli]]s. Could easily be Tribute Summoned when released due to the initial swarming capabilities of the archetype. While in the OCG the ubiquity of [[Number S39: Utopia the Lightning|Utopia the Lightning]] prevented this from becoming enough of a threat to be Forbidden, a lot of Decks in the TCG were incapable of removing this card due to its immunity to most effects and it reducing the ATK of Special Summoned monsters by 500, forcing them to run specific counter cards like [[Heroic Champion - Excalibur]]. However, it could easily be dealt with after the release of more generic counter cards such as [[Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon]] and [[Kaiju]]s. Now not nearly as powerful due to New Master Rules making harder to gather enough Tributes, but can still be a force to be reckoned with, especially if you lock out the [[Extra Deck]] with cards like [[Domain of the True Monarchs]].
 
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Armageddon Knight]]
 
| [[Armageddon Knight]]
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| [[Demise, King of Armageddon|<font color="#99CCFF">Demise, King of Armageddon</font>]]
 
| [[Demise, King of Armageddon|<font color="#99CCFF">Demise, King of Armageddon</font>]]
 
| <span style="color: white">See [[Demise/Doom OTK|<font color="#99CCFF">Demise/Doom OTK</font>]]. The eventual lack of such Decks in the meta resulted in this card coming off the list.</span>
 
| <span style="color: white">See [[Demise/Doom OTK|<font color="#99CCFF">Demise/Doom OTK</font>]]. The eventual lack of such Decks in the meta resulted in this card coming off the list.</span>
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Destiny HERO - Disk Commander]]
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| Its effect as originally printed had no restriction, which proved to be far too powerful. Several cards could revive it, and they were effectively turned into [[Pot of Greed]]s by Disk Commander's effect. It now has a new errata as of 2018, which limits the effect to once per Duel and means it can't be Special Summoned from the Graveyard in the same turn it's placed there, so is much less useful.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Destiny HERO - Malicious]]
 
| [[Destiny HERO - Malicious]]
| This card was used for easy Synchro Summon plays, but came off the list due to its lack of use in the current meta.  
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| Pulls another copy of itself directly from the Deck if it's in the Graveyard. No once per turn restriction. Was used for easy Synchro Summon plays, but came off the list due to lack of use.
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|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
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| [[El Shaddoll Winda]]
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| Key Fusion Monster in [[Shaddoll]] Decks along with [[El Shaddoll Construct]] (above). Restricts both players to 1 special Summon per turn and can't be destroyed by the opponent's card effects. Can be Fusion Summoned easily with [[Shaddoll Fusion]], [[Nepheshaddoll Fusion]] or [[El Shaddoll Fusion]], all of which can also be recycled with this card's effect. However, it isn't particularly needed on the list if Construct is considered powerful enough to be Forbidden, which it isn't (in the OCG) anymore anyway.
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
| [[Elemental HERO Bubbleman]]
 
| [[Elemental HERO Bubbleman]]
 
| Mainly was Limited due to making combos and causing OTKs with [[Elemental HERO Stratos]] (Who is Forbidden in the TCG). Can easily make Rank 4 Xyz Summons or Fusion Summons with [[Miracle Fusion]] or [[Mask Change]]. Second effect can turn around games, but is rarely pulled off nowadays.
 
| Mainly was Limited due to making combos and causing OTKs with [[Elemental HERO Stratos]] (Who is Forbidden in the TCG). Can easily make Rank 4 Xyz Summons or Fusion Summons with [[Miracle Fusion]] or [[Mask Change]]. Second effect can turn around games, but is rarely pulled off nowadays.
|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
 
 
|- style= "background-color:black;"
 
|- style= "background-color:black;"
 
| [[Evilswarm Ophion|<font color="#99CCFF">Evilswarm Ophion</font>]]
 
| [[Evilswarm Ophion|<font color="#99CCFF">Evilswarm Ophion</font>]]
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| [[Future Fusion]]
 
| [[Future Fusion]]
 
| Allows for massive Graveyard setup, particularly using Machines, Dragons, [[Worm]]s, Zombies, and [[Infernoid]]s, where [[Chimeratech Overdragon]], [[Five-Headed Dragon]], [[Worm Zero]], [[Dragonecro Nethersoul Dragon]] and [[Infernoid Tierra]] respectively can allow for a large number of monsters of the player's choice to be dumped. Both [[HERO]]s and [[Fluffal]]s abuse this with [[Miracle Fusion]] and [[Frightfur Fusion]], respectively. However, this card now has an erratum so that it must send the Fusion Materials during the Standby Phase after it is activated, making it slower and easier to remove.
 
| Allows for massive Graveyard setup, particularly using Machines, Dragons, [[Worm]]s, Zombies, and [[Infernoid]]s, where [[Chimeratech Overdragon]], [[Five-Headed Dragon]], [[Worm Zero]], [[Dragonecro Nethersoul Dragon]] and [[Infernoid Tierra]] respectively can allow for a large number of monsters of the player's choice to be dumped. Both [[HERO]]s and [[Fluffal]]s abuse this with [[Miracle Fusion]] and [[Frightfur Fusion]], respectively. However, this card now has an erratum so that it must send the Fusion Materials during the Standby Phase after it is activated, making it slower and easier to remove.
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Gold Sarcophagus]]
 
| Allows you to banish any card you want from your Deck, which is an easy search in decks that manipulate banishment. The 2-turn wait to bring the card back into your hand would balance it if there weren't so many ways to get a banished card into a usable position. Abusable with the [[Dragon Ruler]]s (now Forbidden) and cards such as [[Necroface]] (Semi-Limited in the TCG).
 
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
|- style="background-color:#1D9E74;"
 
| [[Hieratic Seal of Convocation]]
 
| [[Hieratic Seal of Convocation]]

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Due to an issue with displaying the list from another page, I have moved the list to the main page, and all discussion will now have to take place in the current discussion page (see below). Thank you for your understanding. --VictoryViperXX03

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See also: Historic Forbidden/Limited Chart. --  Falzar FZ  talk page  useful stuff    07:32, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

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