Forum:Card Rarities

I suggest some changes to our wikia card rarities system:

• In OCG, Common rarity is called Normal. Since we decided to split the term of rarity between OCG and TCG (example: Normal Rare and Short Print or Ghost Rare and Holographic Rare), why not do the same with Common and Normal?

• The same reason above, the Duel Terminal card in TCG should be called: DCPR - Duel Terminal Common Parallel Rare. Pcouw said about it a year ago, but there is no repliies to his thread: Forum:Duel Terminal terminology TCG/OCG

• We all know that the Gold Ultra Rare introduced in Gold Series and Gold Series 2009 is so much different with all OCG gold series card and Gold Series 3. Should we called the recent Gold Rare cards that released in Gold Series 3 and OCG Gold Rare cards with a different name? Maybe: Gold Ultimate Rare (GUtR) (because they look like Ultimate Rare while shining).

What do you think about these changes? Blackwings0605 (talk) 04:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with adding Normal to the definition of Common, but I'm not so sure about Gold Ultimate Rare. I don't see how we should label the card with a different rarity, merely because it looks like another type of rare.--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 06:19, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gold Ultimate Rare sounds pretty weird anyways. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 05:22, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

• Removed the third idea. I think it'd better for us to rename Gold Ultra Rare as Gold Rare. AFAIK Konami never named them as Gold Ultra Rare officially, they just called them as Gold Rare (in both TCG & OCG), so we should stick with the offical name. Blackwings0605 (talk) 10:41, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know that Normal was the OCG name for Common before now. But things make a lot more sense now knowing that it is.

I could be wrong, but I had thought that Ghost and Holographic Rare were different in that Ghost replaced a lot of the colour with white, while Holographic didn't. Card Gallery:Stardust Dragon has a lot of scans of Ghost and Holofoil of the same card if anyone wants to judge for themself. Although I guess it would make sense if they were the same thing.

I didn't know that Normal Rare and Short Print were the same thing either. How people could tell the difference between Super Short Print and Short Print was always a mystery to me, but didn't Kevin Tewart say there was no such thing as Super Short Print? Or was that some other rarity. If there is no Super Short Print, then I guess Normal Rare and Short Print are both terms for harder to find Commons and are the same thing. And both are the same thing with different names in different formats.

If all of the above are indeed the same, just with a different name in each format, I suggest that we merge their articles. We don't have separate articles for Graveyard and Cemetery, Tribute Summon and Advance Summon, Dark Magician and Black Magician etc. after all.

I know you've struck out your Gold Rare suggestion, but I have some comments anyway. Back shortly after Gold Rares were introduced, TwoTailedFox had changed the naming here to Gold Ultra Rare. I was against this, since Gold Rare was the name used officially, but now that there are different types of Gold Rare, I am in favour of making some distinction between the different kinds. The same is done with Parallel Rare and Duel Terminal Rare. Parallel, (Duel) Terminal and Gold Rare are official terms for groups of rarities. Super Parallel Rare, Gold Ultra Rare etc. are semi-official names for the divisions. -- Deltaneos (talk) 11:37, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

We don't seem to be afraid of making up our own names for rarities, though we do stick with the pre-existing official ones to come up with them - see, for instance, Ultra Secret Rare and Secret Ultra Rare, both of which seem to exist purely because of misprints (well, in UScR's case, it could exist simply because rarities weren't entirely finalized that early in the OCG, and it was an early version of Secret Rare, but I really don't know enough to be able to say whether this was likely the case), and thus (as far as I know) have no official names (as a side note, I think those two should have been switched, but it's probably far too late to do it now and I don't have any idea of the history behind them at any rate). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 08:16, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

As a general note, I'd appreciate a clear explanation of any changes which come out of this so I know how to update {{R}}. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 04:34, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Super Short Print, Short Print and Normal Rare are the both term for harder to find Common cards. I'm not sure about the different between the Short Print and Super Short Print, but people believed that the chances to get Short Print cards are 1:12, while Super Short Print cards are 1:24. We could merge the 3 articles, with a notice to mention the Super Short Print.

Holographic and Ghost Rare are the same. The difference in colouring maybe is caused by the different scanner. If you compare the old 2 versions of File:StardustDragonTDGS-JP-HGR.jpg, they look so different, but they're one. I'm okay with the merge here. Blackwings0605 (talk) 02:45, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Do you have any comments on my recent overhaul/expansion of Rarity? The only thing mentioned here that I didn't explicitly note (since I wasn't sure of it until your above post) was that ghost and holographic rare are the same thing, which I'll change the page to note in a minute anyways. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 01:30, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the post by Tewart saying that there is no such thing as Super Short Print.

With the exceptions of the ones printed on the back of Booster Packs, I haven't seen official proof of the ratio of getting any rarity in a Booster Pack. Unofficial proof I've seen is someone saying they got 36 packs, which contained 1 Holographic. That is waaaayyyy too small a sample. Is there any proof that Secret Rares were 1:31 and are now 1:23 or should we remove them? -- Deltaneos (talk) 03:02, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Rarity?

I was digging through my deck when I found a Sakeretsu Armor with some odd rarity I've never heard of or seen before. It is not holo at all except for its name which is in an odd tint of gold that is much darker than an ultra rare would be. As far as I can tell, this card is not a fake. Can anyone help? —This unsigned comment was made by 68.229.6.196 (talk • contribs) 01:07, February 6, 2013

It might help a bit if you could tell us what print it is. What's the Set Number? 「ディノ奴千？！」^{? · ☎ Dinoguy1000} 01:08, February 6, 2013 (UTC)