Forum:Mass Driver or Toad
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We all know that FROG FTK decks are great. But the question is, which one do you think Konami will Ban?
On one hand Mass Driver is a card that has a few OTK on its own. On the other Hand Substitoads effect combine with other frogs are amazing.
I would really prefer if Mass Driver gets banned over Substitoad but I think Substitoad might be hit on the list as well.
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I also Prefer Mass Driver, My friend runs every Frog Deck variant, EXCEPT the FTK, I wouldn't what his decks to suffer for a FTK he doesn't even use.--Helix-king (talk • contribs) 14:09, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Maybe they might limit Ronintoadin. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 16:13, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
This needs to be on the Lists Discussion...--Akiza Izayoi (talk • contribs) 16:58, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
I did not see that list discussion. Thanks for telling me of it's existence. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 20:04, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Where is it? I have Deck Help book marked so I only see the 4.--Helix-king (talk • contribs) 21:09, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Akiza, but as for subject-wise, you only need 1 Ronintoadin to dump with Swap Frog's effect for the FTK. Definetily Mass Driver, since there is also a not-very well-known FTK with Mass Driver, a level 4 or lower Six Samurai, 2 Gateways, and 1 Grandmaster, kinda like the Hand+Grandmaster loop.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 22:32, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Lets make a list of all the possible OTKs with Mass Driver. There's the Frog loop FTK and a loop for the Six Samurai as mentioned above. You can also do an OTK loop with it in Darklords and X-Sabers. Then there's the ones where Imperial Iron Wall is needed, which are the Quillbolt Loop and Worms Loop. And there's the Black Ptera OTK. There should be more. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 22:39, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Obviously too many OTK/FTKs. Konami must be looking at Mass Driver and saying, ......a bunch of stuff that would probably get me suspended from here......I just REALLY can't believe people actually found a way to abuse Substitoad. If only Substitoad's effect said that you had to tribute a Frog....He's still searchable with One For One though. Also, Swap Frog's effect JUST to get Salvage'd....which is probably what is going to happen when Substitoad DOES go to AT LEAST 1 limit.---Yugioh DED (talk • contribs) 02:46, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
So should Ronintoadin. He's pretty abusable with the FTK/OTK and besides three frogs are worst than one. Fallensilence (talk • contribs) 17:15, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
