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Official Term or not

Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's - Episode 138's title is said to be "The Entrance to Despair! Ylaidus is Unleashed", so it could be an official term, but probably not that definition. -Falzar FZ- (talk page|useful stuff) 08:32, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

The term is mentioned in a twitter post by one of the writers that fans translated. It was stated to mean the bodies of those on the Ark Cradle. I'm not sure it needs an article though. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 15:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

It was Katsumi Ono's tweet and he said it was the souls of people inside the Ark Cradle including Z-one, Aporia, Antinomy, Paradox and many more people who are no longer of this world. This article suggests it was only the first four and uses Ono as a reference, despite him saying it was many more people. And this incorrect usage is starting to seep into other articles.

Also our article on Ono currently says "He considers..." implying it's his personal interpretation, not necessarily canon. But I'd need to check with a Japanese speaker to see if he really implied it was just his own interpretation. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:18, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and just take out everything that isn't directly cited by the tweet then. Even if the current usage is correct (which it isn't from what you've said), I don't think we need all the extra info. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 00:57, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

It could be good to keep the article about the four Survivors, even if it is not the official term, it could be renamed with something different. —This unsigned comment was made by 201.192.44.110 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I do agree with that. I don't think there's any canon term for the group as a whole though, so I'm not sure what we'd call it. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 01:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe they can be considered the creators of yliaster and the article can be moved to "Yliaster's creators" or new section of the already existing Yliaster article —This unsigned comment was made by 201.192.44.110 (talk • contribs) 01:42, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Didn't Goodwin say that Yliaster dated back to the ancient Incans? -- Deltaneos (talk) 16:03, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but maybe only in the original timeline before Z-one's interference. Yliaster is season 1 is completely different form Yliaster in season 2 and the two are really hard to rectify the backstories of. The only explanation for the differences I've seen someone come up with is that time travel screwed it up. Or that Z-one's guys murdered they original founders and took over. Cheesedude (talk • contribs) 17:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Aporia's embodiments realized that the Dark Signers they released with the Zero Reverse were going to destroy the world they came fix, so they used the Signers fix what they screwed-up before starting their second plan. After all Yliaster did told Rudger Goodwin to destroy the Ener-D. —This unsigned comment was made by 201.192.44.110 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Synonymous?

on the net you can find, according to alchemy writings (especially Paracelsus), that yleidus, ylaidus, yladus, illiastrum, illiastes, illiadus, yleides are all synonyms to indicate the "prime material of reality" or the spirit "that resides in all beings" (like Katsumi Ono said) and have other relations to god and immortality but also despair (aporia) and sorrow. so i think that yliaster was taken from alchemy to name the organization and, for some reason, they changed yliaster to ylaidus in the last episodes in referring to the creators as human beings and not just an organization... so it could be considered just a synonymous. /////||||||\\\\\ Jump Enemy (talk • contribs) 00:01, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Rename

Per Iliaster, makes total sense. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 22:56, November 22, 2016 (UTC)