User talk:Fensterhoff

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RE:(Token Proxy)

We always keep "proxy" images. If another, better version of the proxy card comes up in the future, we'll simply upload it over the pre-existing one. It also helps in case people want to use its legitimate artwork for things (without the foiling obscuring it). --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 17:46, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Image file format

We prefer card images to be uploaded as PNGs, even if that means converting JPGs to PNGs. It makes it a lot easier to manage them when they're all in a consistent format. (There are quite a lot of uploaded card images that are still JPGs, but these are mostly older images that we intend to eventually replace.) --SnorlaxMonster 09:25, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Repeating again. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 16:32, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Let's be honest here. I am aware of the fact that editing the source code to replace the PNG file format to JPG prevents easy file management in future. However, I'm only uploading images of cards most people don't have. And those who do have them have no intentions to update any Wikia pages. I actually purchase foreign language cards that are missing in the galleries with the sole intention to upload them here. So if nobody had added those missing foreign language cards since their release up until now, I doubt anyone else ever will.

Any card that I own is scanned with high resolution to a PNG file. Unfortunately some of the cards exist online only in JPG format and converting them to another format takes unnecessary time. And most definitely I am not planning to buy any cards that already have a scanned image available no matter the format. And even if for some reason there is be somebody who wants to replace the images I upload (very unlikely), editing the source code will take them less effort than it will take me to convert the files.

Thanks for your input but there is something more helpful for my cause that you could do. Since I don't have enough time to do it all myself, could you let me know which common/rare foreign language cards are missing in the galleries so I can purchase some of them and upload their scans? I don't know if there is a tool that lets you make a search of such criteria. If you can somehow help me with that I can use that saved time to actually convert JPG images to PNG as you asked for mutual benefit. Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 18:54, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, we are actually in the process of downloading .jpg card images on this site and re-uploading them as .png files, before deleting the .jpg versions. Are you sure you don't mind? Because this would mean that your contributions don't get recognized, as they will be deleted and another user would be recognized for uploading the .png versions...

In any case, there are some galleries that we'd like to be filled: Set Card Galleries:Duelist Legacy Volume.5 (OCG-JP) and the 4 1st Edition Spanish Starter Deck card galleries (which has a convenient ebay listing here). Also, the Korean Advanced Event Packs, like Advanced Event Pack 2014 Vol.1. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 21:21, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

I am not in this for the recognition. I don't even know what is its point. Will somebody give me special administrative rights and tools to help me save time while I continue to add missing content? Because that is the only benefit I might be interested in - to save time that I can use it to add more content. If such privileges do exist and I can earn them, please let me know.

Thanks for the eBay listing but firstly, I live in Europe so shipping from USA is more expensive than if I order over here (shipping for that listing will actually cost me more than the item itself). Secondly, any online website except the European CardMarket has foreign language cards overpriced so I am going to stick to the aforementioned instead. By foreign language I mean languages in the TCG that are not English. I do have access to most Japanese cards but right now I can't afford to pay for expensive shipping services, so currently I will not be able to provide scans of OCG cards.

As I already mentioned I would greatly appreciate if I could find which foreign language TCG cards are missing. I will occasionally purchase English language cards if they are not available anywhere online, but most of them are out there so anyone with some free time to spare can do the job instead. Thanks for the links (I will be getting cards from the Spanish Starter Decks) but I need to know all the sets with partial missing content, is there an automatic way to find them out without having to go through each manually? Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 23:35, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

The only privileges admins have over other users is that they can delete pages, restore deleted pages, and block/unblock users. There are 2 separate usergroups with privileges to rename pages and revert edits from users with 1 click, "movers" and "rollbackers" respectively. Of these, only the mover privilege sounds vaguely useful for you, so I'll grant that. --UltimateKuriboh (talk • contribs) 23:42, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

If you are uploading pics from sites like tcgshop, you could change them to PNG. You just need to open them in Paint and save them as PNG. I know you're going to say it's a waste of time. But, to people like me, who has re-uploaded several pics as PNG, it would be really convenient.
Besides, if they are watermarked, use {{Watermark}}. Thanks. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 19:49, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Convenient for what? It's not like somebody is going to replace those cards. Very few people have them and they are either placing watermarks to sell or are not willing to spend the time uploading them. It just doesn't make any sense to convert them, I have more productive things to do. I would understand if I was uploading popular cards that are available anyway. Also if somebody really wants to change the format for lots of images, let some experienced user convert them in bulk as there is specific free software/websites for that purpose. However, thanks for the Watermark remark, I didn't know that and will definitely use it. Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 20:06, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Convenient for people like me who will probably re-upload the pics as PNG.

It's preferable to have all the card scans in PNG. So you just need to make a small effort to upload the pics (whether you scanned them yourself, or downloaded them from a site) as PNG.

And since, in this EP1 particular case, you are just copying files from another place, people like me could do the same and upload them as PNG. So if I (or anyone) ends up re-uploading these pics as PNG, that means your work was in vain; meaning it was, indeed, a waste of time. While if you had uploaded them as PNG in the first place, sure, you had lost more time at that point, but, in the end, your work would have been worth it.

You're welcome. There is also the {{Poor quality}}, just so you know. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 20:27, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Yes you could download them and upload them here in PNG format but you didn't, did you? And neither did anybody else and probably neither anybody ever will. Those galleries I update are sitting unedited for ages and almost nobody even has those cards to replace the images. If I have a choice of either spending time on converting files or uploading more images, the second choice is much more productive and if everyone was thinking like me all those galleries with foreign language cards wouldn't be empty.

And even if some crazy person like me start to buy foreign language cards just to upload them here and replace my files, my work will still not be in vain because the purpose is to fill up those galleries (even if it is temporary). Isn't that what matters most? Admit it, this game is not going to exist forever. So in some distant future people will lose interest in it to a point that nobody will even visit this Wikia. Wouldn't all our work be in vain in this case when nobody cares what we did?

The truth is that what matters most is that while people are still searching for information, we should provide it to them. Otherwise they will slowly lose interest when they see that a lot of pages aren't updated. That's how any website works, when it is not updated frequently people just stop visiting it.Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 21:03, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

I know I have no right to ask you to do something specific. This is a Wikia, anyone is free to help the way they can. However, guidelines exist and people should try to follow them. PNG for card scans is preferable (check Yu-Gi-Oh!: Image Policy.

There are lots of empty galleries, yes. But there is a lot of work to do here. Information comes quicker than active people here can take care of it. Hence why lots of galleries are blank.

Ultimately, the JPG pics will be replaced, yes. It doesn't take more than some seconds to convert them.

And yes, this game will probably cease to exist in the future. "Everything is ephemeral in life.", some poets would say. But no, all this work wouldn't have been in vain. History records are important. This Wikia has been helping people since it started.

Again, I have no right to ask you to do that. But it would be helpful. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:25, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Any cards I own I will scan to PNG format only. For those I do not own, you have my word that I will use PNG format if they have a considerable chance of being replaced in the near future. That's the best I can do.Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 21:36, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

And I thank you for that. Becasita ^Pendulum (talk • contribs) 21:50, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

User pages

User pages directly are not the places to ask questions. You post questions for the user in question on the talk page. ChaosGallade (talk • contribs) 22:36, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

AE images

Hi Fenster. Is that image of "Nuvia the Wicked" you uploaded earlier a copy that you own yourself? Because LON AE images are functionally identical to NA images (I think there might be a way to determine from the backs of the cards though). --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 13:59, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, cards that I upload in PNG format are in my possession. I will upload more Asian-English cards soon but those will be in JPG format and I find those from various Japanese auction websites with good quality photos that don't use stock photos like regular web stores do. I wouldn't upload an Asian-English image unless I am certain it has a Japanese back. I am not aware of any front side differences between AE and NA cards so I doubt there is a way to determine the card from the front alone. Fensterhoff (talk • contribs) 15:00, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Interesting, thank you. Though I must request that you upload any images in png format; if you need to save an image in a program such as Paint to do so, please do. We're trying to standardize all of the galleries. --Golden Key (talk • contribs) 18:16, April 29, 2016 (UTC)