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==TCG Rulings==
 
==TCG Rulings==
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast|Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast]]''': If "[[Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast]]" is destroyed by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or another [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster you control while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, its effect to [[Special Summon]] is negated.
 
* '''[[Card Rulings:Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast|Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast]]''': If "[[Chimera the Flying Mythical Beast]]" is destroyed by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or another [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster you control while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, its effect to [[Special Summon]] is negated.
  
* '''[[Card Rulings:Kuribon|Kuribon]]:''' You can activate this effect when "[[Kuribon]]" is attacked by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]". "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" will not negate the effect because it is activated before "[[Kuribon]]" would be destroyed.
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Kuribon|Kuribon]]''': You can activate this effect when [[Kuribon]]is attacked by [[Dark Ruler Ha Des]].” “[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]will not negate the effect because it is activated before [[Kuribon]]would be destroyed.
  
* '''[[Card Rulings:Wattwoodpecker|Wattwoodpecker]]:''' If '''[[Wattwoodpecker]]''' battles '''[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]''' and would be destroyed, '''[[Wattwoodpecker]]’s''' effect is still applied.
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Wattwoodpecker|Wattwoodpecker]]''': If '''[[Wattwoodpecker]]''' battles '''[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]''' and would be destroyed, '''[[Wattwoodpecker]]’s''' effect is still applied.
  
 
==OCG Rulings==
 
==OCG Rulings==
*When "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" destroys a [[Gemini Monster]], its effect is negated and it is treated as an [[Effect Monster]] while in the Graveyard.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=39813&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: When "Dark Ruler Ha Des" destroys a Gemini Monster, is it treated as a Normal Monster while in the Graveyard?</ref>
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*If a monster like "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or "[[Revived King Ha Des]]" destroys a monster by battle, then the monster's effects are no longer negated if the monster leaves the Graveyard. Thus, if "[[Summoner Monk]]" is destroyed by battle with "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" and is then Special Summoned from the Graveyard, its effects are no longer negated, so you can Special Summon a Level 4 monster from the Deck.<ref>[http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=9136&keyword=&tag=-1 Konami OCG Card Database]: After Summoning a monster which was destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des", if the monster's effect activates, is it negated?</ref>
  
*If a monster like "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or "[[Revived King Ha Des]]" destroys a monster by battle, then the monster's effects are no longer negated if the monster is leaves the Graveyard.  Thus, if "[[Summoner Monk]]" is destroyed by battle with "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" and is then Special Summoned from the Graveyard, then its effects are no longer negated, so it may Special Summon a Level 4 monster from the Deck.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=51521&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: After Summoning a monster which was destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des", if the monster's effect activates, then is it negated?</ref>
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===Versus Specific Cards===
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*'''[[Card Rulings:Gemini monster|Gemini monster]]''': When "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" destroys a [[Gemini Monster]] by battle and sends it to the Graveyard, that monster's effect is negated and it is treated as an [[Effect Monster]] while in the Graveyard.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=39813&event=FE0006 Konami FAQ]: When "Dark Ruler Ha Des" destroys a Gemini Monster, is it treated as a Normal Monster while in the Graveyard?</ref>
  
*The effect of "[[:{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}]]" [[activate]]s after inflicting [[Battle Damage]], at the same time that [[Flip Effects]] activate.  Thus, if "[[:{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}]]" attacks "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", then you first perform [[damage calculation]] and "[[:{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}]]" is destroyed by battle.  The effect of "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" negates the effects of "[[:{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}]]", so you cannot use the effect of "[[:{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}]]" to destroy "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]".<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=57099&event=FE0006 Konami OCG FAQ]: If "{{GetEngName|カラクリ蜘蛛}}" attacks "Dark Ruler Ha Des", then are the monsters destroyed anyway?</ref>
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*'''[[Card Rulings:Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World|Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World]]''': If "[[Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World]]" is destroyed by battle by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", then you cannot Special Summon "[[Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World]]" from the Graveyard by its own effect.<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=64366&event=FE0006 Konami OCG FAQ]: If "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" is destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des", can you Special Summon it from the Graveyard by its own effect?</ref>
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*'''[[Card Rulings:Karakuri Spider|Karakuri Spider]]''': The effect of "[[Karakuri Spider]]" [[activate]]s after inflicting [[battle damage]], at the same time that [[Flip Effects]] activate.  Thus, if "[[Karakuri Spider]]" attacks "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", then you first perform [[damage calculation]] and "[[Karakuri Spider]]" is destroyed by battle.  The effect of "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" negates the effects of "[[Karakuri Spider]]", so you cannot use the effect of "[[Karakuri Spider]]" to destroy "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]".<ref>[http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=57099&event=FE0006 Konami OCG FAQ]: If "Karakuri Spider" attacks "Dark Ruler Ha Des", then are the monsters destroyed anyway?</ref>
  
 
==Previously Official Rulings==
 
==Previously Official Rulings==
 
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* This card's effect includes itself, as long as it remains a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.<ref name="Netrep">[http://netrep.net/ Netrep]: Individual Card Rulings on [[Netrep]]</ref>
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* This card's effect includes itself, as long as it remains a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.
  
* [[Flip Monster Effects|Flip Effects]] and effects that [[activate]] in the [[Graveyard]] WILL be [[negate]]d. This includes "[[Sinister Serpent]]", "[[Sangan]]", "[[Witch of the Black Forest]]", "[[Marie the Fallen One]]", "[[Mystic Tomato]]", "[[Giant Rat]]", "[[Masked Dragon]]", "[[Magician of Faith]]", "[[Man-Eater Bug]]", "[[Nimble Momonga]]", "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", etc.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* [[Flip Monster Effects|Flip Effects]] and effects that [[activate]] in the [[Graveyard]] WILL be [[negate]]d. This includes "[[Sinister Serpent]]", "[[Sangan]]", "[[Witch of the Black Forest]]", "[[Marie the Fallen One]]", "[[Mystic Tomato]]", "[[Giant Rat]]", "[[Masked Dragon]]", "[[Magician of Faith]]", "[[Man-Eater Bug]]", "[[Nimble Momonga]]", "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", etc.
  
* Monster effects that [[activate]] after [[Damage Calculation|damage calculation]] will be [[negate]]d if your [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster destroys the opposing [[Effect Monsters|Effect Monster]]. Examples include "[[D.D. Warrior Lady]]", "[[Thousand Needles]]", "[[Slate Warrior]]", "[[Ryu Kokki]]", and "[[Wall of Illusion]]".<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* Monster effects that [[activate]] after [[damage calculation]] will be [[negate]]d if your [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster destroys the opposing [[Effect Monster]]. Examples include "[[D.D. Warrior Lady]]", "[[Thousand Needles]]", "[[Slate Warrior]]", "[[Ryu Kokki]]", and "[[Wall of Illusion]]".
  
* If an [[Effect Monsters|Effect Monster]], destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, is returned from the Graveyard to the hand or [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard, its effect will be active again. Its effect may be [[negate]]d again if destroyed by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or another [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If an [[Effect Monster]], destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, is returned from the Graveyard to the hand or [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard, its effect will be active again. Its effect may be [[negate]]d again if destroyed by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or another [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.
  
* If one of these [[Effect Monsters]] is [[Removed from Play|removed from play]] (by "[[Soul Release]]" for example) and then returned to the Graveyard with "[[Miracle Dig]]", the [[negate|negation]] condition was lost and the effects will now be active.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If one of these [[Effect Monsters]] is [[Banish|removed from play]] (by "[[Soul Release]]" for example) and then returned to the Graveyard with "[[Miracle Dig]]", the [[negate|negation]] condition was lost and the effects will now be active.
  
* If "[[Kiseitai]]" is attacked by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, its effect prevents [[Damage Calculation|damage calculation]], so it is not [[destroy]]ed and its effect is NOT [[negate]]d.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If "[[Kiseitai]]" is attacked by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster while "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, its effect prevents [[damage calculation]], so it is not [[destroy]]ed and its effect is NOT [[negate]]d.
  
* If "[[Sinister Serpent]]", "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", or "[[Marie the Fallen One]]" is destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster when this card is on the field, they will not [[activate]] on any following turn. So during your opponent's next [[Standby Phase]], and each of their following [[Standby Phase]]s, they may NOT move "[[Sinister Serpent]]" to their hand, [[Special Summon]] "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", and they will NOT gain [[Life Points]] by the effect of "[[Marie the Fallen One]]". This [[negate|negation]] continues even if "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is later removed from the field.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If "[[Sinister Serpent]]", "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", or "[[Marie the Fallen One]]" is destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster when this card is on the field, they will not [[activate]] on any following turn. So during your opponent's next [[Standby Phase]], and each of their following [[Standby Phase]]s, they may NOT move "[[Sinister Serpent]]" to their hand, [[Special Summon]] "[[Twin-Headed Behemoth]]", and they will NOT gain [[Life Points]] by the effect of "[[Marie the Fallen One]]". This [[negate|negation]] continues even if "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is later removed from the field.
  
* If your Fiend-Type monster battles with "[[Relinquished]]" [[equipped]] with a "[[Sangan]]" or a "[[Witch of the Black Forest]]" and the [[equipped]] card is destroyed instead of "[[Relinquished]]", the effect of "[[Sangan]]", etc., will [[activate]] since it was the effect of "[[Relinquished]]" that destroyed it. It was not destroyed as a [[Result of Battle|result of battle]] with the [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If your Fiend-Type monster battles with "[[Relinquished]]" [[equipped]] with a "[[Sangan]]" or a "[[Witch of the Black Forest]]" and the [[equipped]] card is destroyed instead of "[[Relinquished]]", the effect of "[[Sangan]]", etc., will [[activate]] since it was the effect of "[[Relinquished]]" that destroyed it. It was not destroyed as a [[Result of Battle|result of battle]] with the [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster.
  
* If your "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or other [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster [[destroy]]s "[[Tyrant Dragon]]" as a [[Result of Battle|result of battle]], a [[Dragon]]-[[Type]] monster must still be [[Tribute]]d when "[[Tyrant Dragon]]" is [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard. This is because [[Tribute|Tributing]] a [[Dragon]]-[[Type]] monster is a condition on the [[Summon]]ing of the card; it is not part of the effect. For the same reason, if a [[Spirit Monster Cards|Spirit Monster]] is destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster when "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, it still cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard. Also if two "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" destroy each other in battle, neither can be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* If your "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" or other [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster [[destroy]]s "[[Tyrant Dragon]]" as a [[Result of Battle|result of battle]], a [[Dragon]]-[[Type]] monster must still be [[Tribute]]d when "[[Tyrant Dragon]]" is [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard. This is because [[Tribute|Tributing]] a [[Dragon]]-[[Type]] monster is a condition on the [[Summon]]ing of the card; it is not part of the effect. For the same reason, if a [[Spirit Monster Cards|Spirit Monster]] is destroyed by a [[Fiend]]-[[Type]] monster when "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is on the field, it still cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard. Also if two "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" destroy each other in battle, neither can be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard.
  
* "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard even if you try to [[Special Summon]] it [[face-down]] by the effect of "[[Spear Cretin]]" or "[[The Shallow Grave]]".<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed from the Graveyard even if you try to [[Special Summon]] it [[face-down]] by the effect of "[[Spear Cretin]]" or "[[The Shallow Grave]]".
  
* You can [[activate]] "[[Return of the Doomed]]" to return "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" to your hand during the turn which it was destroyed, because this does not [[Special Summon]] it, it merely returns the card to your hand.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* You can [[activate]] "[[Return of the Doomed]]" to return "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" to your hand during the turn which it was destroyed, because this does not [[Special Summon]] it, it merely returns the card to your hand.
  
* The effect of "[[Fiber Jar]]" will shuffle "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" back into your Deck even if "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is in the Graveyard and cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed.<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* The effect of "[[Fiber Jar]]" will shuffle "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" back into your Deck even if "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" is in the Graveyard and cannot be [[Special Summon]]ed.
  
* "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" may be [[Special Summon]]ed by "[[Dimension Fusion]]" or "[[Return from the Different Dimension]]" if it was [[Removed from Play|removed from play]].<ref name="Netrep"/>
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* "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" may be [[Special Summon]]ed by "[[Dimension Fusion]]" or "[[Return from the Different Dimension]]" if it was [[Banish|removed from play]].
  
 
===Mentions in Other Rulings===
 
===Mentions in Other Rulings===
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Doomcaliber Knight|Doomcaliber Knight]]''': If your "[[Doomcaliber Knight]]" attacks an Effect Monster with a non-continuous effect and destroys it while you control "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", when the Effect Monster's effect activates "[[Doomcaliber Knight]]'s" effect is still chained.
 
* '''[[Card Rulings:Doomcaliber Knight|Doomcaliber Knight]]''': If your "[[Doomcaliber Knight]]" attacks an Effect Monster with a non-continuous effect and destroys it while you control "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", when the Effect Monster's effect activates "[[Doomcaliber Knight]]'s" effect is still chained.
  
* '''[[Card Rulings:Elemental Hero Necroid Shaman|Elemental Hero Necroid Shaman]]:''' You cannot choose to Special Summon a monster if it cannot be Special Summoned, such as..."Dark Ruler Ha Des"...
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* '''[[Card Rulings:Elemental HERO Necroid Shaman|Elemental Hero Necroid Shaman]]:''' You cannot choose to Special Summon a monster if it cannot be Special Summoned, such as..."Dark Ruler Ha Des"...
  
 
* '''[[Card Rulings:Felgrand Dragon‎|Felgrand Dragon‎]]''': The text ''“This monster cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard, and only if it was sent there from the field”'' is a condition and not an [[Card Effect|effect]]. It cannot be [[negate]]d by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", etc.
 
* '''[[Card Rulings:Felgrand Dragon‎|Felgrand Dragon‎]]''': The text ''“This monster cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard, and only if it was sent there from the field”'' is a condition and not an [[Card Effect|effect]]. It cannot be [[negate]]d by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]", etc.
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* If "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" battles with "[[Relinquished]]" equipped with a monster (with lower ATK than "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]'s"), then "[[Relinquished]]'s" effect that destroys the equipped monster instead, and the effect that inflicts damage, are not negated by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]".<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20071015030538/http:/entertainment.upperdeck.com/community/forums/thread/870648.aspx UDE Judge List]: Dark Ruler Ha Des Vs. Relinquished, Etc.</ref>
 
* If "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]" battles with "[[Relinquished]]" equipped with a monster (with lower ATK than "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]'s"), then "[[Relinquished]]'s" effect that destroys the equipped monster instead, and the effect that inflicts damage, are not negated by "[[Dark Ruler Ha Des]]".<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20071015030538/http:/entertainment.upperdeck.com/community/forums/thread/870648.aspx UDE Judge List]: Dark Ruler Ha Des Vs. Relinquished, Etc.</ref>
 
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==References==
 
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Latest revision as of 05:27, 15 April 2018

TCG Rulings

Mentions in Other Rulings

OCG Rulings

  • If a monster like "Dark Ruler Ha Des" or "Revived King Ha Des" destroys a monster by battle, then the monster's effects are no longer negated if the monster leaves the Graveyard. Thus, if "Summoner Monk" is destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des" and is then Special Summoned from the Graveyard, its effects are no longer negated, so you can Special Summon a Level 4 monster from the Deck.[1]

Versus Specific Cards

Previously Official Rulings

  • This card's effect includes itself, as long as it remains a Fiend-Type monster.

Mentions in Other Rulings

  • D.D. Scout Plane: If "D.D. Scout Plane" is destroyed by "Dark Ruler Ha Des" and then removed from play to Special Summon "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End", "D.D. Scout Plane"'s effect activates and it will be Special Summoned.
  • D.D. Scout Plane: If "D.D. Scout Plane" is destroyed by "Lesser Fiend", "D.D. Scout Plane"'s effect activates and it is Special Summoned even if "Dark Ruler Ha Des" was also in play when it was destroyed.
  • Dark Balter the Terrible: This card's effect to negate the effect of Effect Monsters that it destroys as a result of battle is a separate effect from the other one; you do not pay Life Points to activate it. This effect works the same as the effect of "Dark Ruler Ha Des"; see that card's rulings for more details.
  • Gyroid: If "Gyroid" is attacked for the first time in a turn by "Dark Ruler Ha Des", "Gyroid"'s effect is not negated because it will not be destroyed.
  • Heavy Mech Support Platform: If "Reflect Bounder" equipped with "Heavy Mech Support Platform" is attacked by "Dark Ruler Ha Des", during damage calculation "Heavy Mech Support Platform" is destroyed instead of "Reflect Bounder". Then, after damage calculation, "Reflect Bounder" will destroy itself by its own effect. Its effect is not negated, because it was not destroyed by "Dark Ruler Ha Des".
  • Question: If a monster is named with "Question" that could not be Special Summoned, "Question"'s effect disappears and the monster is neither Special Summoned nor removed from play. So the effect of "Question" disappears if the bottom monster is incorrectly named and is..."Dark Ruler Ha Des"...
  • Reflect Bounder: When "Reflect Bounder" is attacked by "Dark Ruler Ha Des", "Reflect Bounder" inflicts its effect damage, damage calculation is applied, "Reflect Bounder" is determined to be destroyed as a result of battle, "Dark Ruler Ha Des" negates "Reflect Bounder"'s effect, and "Reflect Bounder" does not destroy itself with its own effect, however it was still destroyed as a result of battle.

Judge List Rulings


References

  1. Konami OCG Card Database: After Summoning a monster which was destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des", if the monster's effect activates, is it negated?
  2. Konami FAQ: When "Dark Ruler Ha Des" destroys a Gemini Monster, is it treated as a Normal Monster while in the Graveyard?
  3. Konami OCG FAQ: If "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" is destroyed by battle with "Dark Ruler Ha Des", can you Special Summon it from the Graveyard by its own effect?
  4. Konami OCG FAQ: If "Karakuri Spider" attacks "Dark Ruler Ha Des", then are the monsters destroyed anyway?
  5. UDE Judge List: Dark Ruler Ha Des Vs. Relinquished, Etc.
  6. Konami Judge Program Forum: Individual Email Rulings VS Individual Card Rulings
  7. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [A-C]
  8. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [D-E]
  9. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [F-H]
  10. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [I-K]
  11. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [L-O]
  12. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [P-R]
  13. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [S-T]
  14. UDE FAQ: Individual Card Rulings [U-Z]
  15. UDE FAQ: SPECIFIC CARDS RULINGS