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==List of cards and proposed deletion==

The "recommended cards" list here is terrible. Hero Kid is bad, Avian is bad, Burstinatrix is bad, Bubbleman is bad, Clayman is bad without Giant Rat, Necroshade is bad, Bladedge is bad, Ocean is bad outside of Big City, Woodsman is bad, Wroughtweiler is bad, King of the Swamp is bad, Polymerization is bad, Super Polymerization is bad, Feather Shot is bad, De-Fusion is bad, Skyscraper is bad, Bubble Blaster is bad, Bubble Shuffle is bad, Bubble Illusion is bad, Burst Return is bad, Fake Hero is bad, H-Heated Heart is bad, O-Oversoul is bad, HERO Flash is bad, Cyclone Boomerang is bad, Spark Blaster is bad, Hero Heart is bad, Fusion Gate is bad, Hero Signal is bad, Feather Wind is bad, Clay Charge is bad, Edge Hammer is bad, Kid Guard is bad, Miracle Kids is bad, Hero Spirit is bad, Change of Hero - Reflector Ray is bad, Hero Counterattack is bad, Elemental Recharge is bad, and Hero Barrier is so insultingly bad that I can only conclude that whoever made this list is some kid who watches the GX anime far too much and doesn't actually know how to play. In fact, the whole list is just a list of random E-Hero support cards. Permission to make MAJOR changes to the list?--[[User:Crab Helmet|Crab Helmet]] 05:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

* Well, apparently it never occurred to you that no card is 100% bad and that someone out there has made these cards work. Stop whining about cards you don't like. [[User:Rodtheanimegod4ever|Rodtheanimegod4ever]] 06:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

:* This is a list of "recommended cards". Presumably, recommended cards are cards that are worthy of being recommended. Take [[Hero Barrier]], for example. It is exactly like [[Mirror Force]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Magic Cylinder]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Draining Shield]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Negate Attack]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Sakuretsu Armor]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Dimensional Prison]], except undeniably worse. It is exactly like [[Threatening Roar]], except undeniably worse. But are Mirror Force, Magic Cylinder, Draining Shield, Negate Attack, Sakuretsu Armor, Dimensional Prison, and Threatening Roar listed here? No. However, Hero Barrier is listed here. Why? Not because of what it does. Not because it's worth using. It's listed here because it has "Elemental Hero" written in its text. That is the ONLY reason.

:I'm all for the removal of the bad cards, in fact even that complete list. This is the Elemental Hero part of <nowiki>{{Hero}}}</nowiki> incarnate. A deck page should explain how the deck works, not list a bunch of cards that go in it. See the Demise/Doom or Diamond Dude Turbo pages for example. If there is no specific strategy to a deck, it shouldn't have a deck page. The definition of an Elemental Hero is a Deck that includes Elemental Heroes, so theres no need for this page, while there's a page for Elemental Heroes unless there is a specific stratgey associated. Only reason I can see why we should keep this page, is state at the top an Elemental Hero Deck is a Deck that includes E-Heros. Then have sub-sections for any notable types, like [[Destiny Hero Deck]]. If Big City is the only one, leave that with its own page and delete this. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] 09:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

This may be the worst E-hero deck I have ever seen... well maybe not, but it's pretty bad. Most of the cards have already been pointed out, so i won't go into detail there. The only good E-hero deck I have seen, and admittedly, lost to is Big City. Any other E-Hero deck is not good (or in the case of the Electrum Chain OTK) consistent enough to play. I mean in a tourney, in casual play, they're just mediocre, but not horrible.

[[User:SaintKiwi|SaintKiwi]] 11:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)Saint Kiwi

** I agree with TwoTailedFox, different kinds of decks should be listed here. Big City would obviously be the primary one, but lots of people use different kinds of EHero decks with varying degrees of success depending on the area's meta. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

*** Also agreed. Looking at it now, it '''is''' just a list. There are very many types of E-Hero decks; Big City, Neos, Nature Heroes, and they should probably all have their own articles. And that Larvae Moth crack was extremely low. I would be inclined to agree with Crab Helmet had he not presented his argument in the style of someone who believes that Hero decks are for six year old boys who think the anime is real. [[User:Rodtheanimegod4ever|Rodtheanimegod4ever]] 05:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

News to me. I wasn't aware that anything other than a few weird Draining Oppression Bushi builds ran her. --[[User:Crab Helmet|Crab Helmet]] 04:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

:Leave it, it's legitimate enough. Not everybody has as many Giant Rats as they'd like to have. She can sport half the crowd Gaint Rat's used to in this deck. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] 14:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)