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:Overall, I think if we are to work on redesigning the main page, we need to focus on making it shorter, not longer.
-- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 12:18, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
:: Echoing what Delta has already said, the changes add some links to content about us, but overall doesn't add anything to justify the size increase. I'm personally not a big fan of the slider, as it feels a little cheap to me, and the idea of deciding how and what to add/remove every so often is just an additional headache we could do without. Also, I'm a bigger fan of the old character layout than the new one suggested, as I think the older one looks neater, and allows us to clearly define characters and their origin.--[[w:c:YuGiOh:User:TwoTailedFox|TwoTailedFox]] ([[w:c:YuGiOh:User talk:TwoTailedFox|My Talk Page]]) 13:31, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't like the slider, but the addition of links to stuff about the site is good. We could use that to link to policy pages. It would help advertise them better. I like the character section redesign, I was never fond of the tabs to switch series. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 16:11, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
:Wait, your idea was to throw all of them? [[User:Becasita|Becasita]] <sup><small>Pendulum</small></sup> ([[User talk:Becasita|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Becasita|contribs]]) 23:12, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
::The restriction of six goes back to when the section had a tab for each core series, so that there was some consistency across the tabs. That should no longer be relevant now that the tabs aren't being used. Choosing the most important six has been a tedious unagreeable unagreable task, as evidenced by the templates' talk pages and page histories.
::I put in all the ones from the official site's [http://www.yugioh20th.com/character/ character page] and used their ordering. They seem to be the most important ones and there's a nice consistent image for each one. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 23:31, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I won't even try to imagine how those six used to be chosen.
:::A shame they don't have one more to put beneath Bakura. It kinda ruins the symmetry. But putting a totally different image to fill that space would also ruin the criteria, agree.
:::My vote goes to: Yes. [[User:Becasita|Becasita]] <sup><small>Pendulum</small></sup> ([[User talk:Becasita|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Becasita|contribs]]) 23:40, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
:Actually, I second this. Great idea Delta. [[User:Sanokal K-T|Sanokal K-T]] ([[User talk:Sanokal K-T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sanokal K-T|contribs]]) 03:07, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
::Eh, I guess. Why not? [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] ([[User talk:Cheesedude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cheesedude|contribs]]) 14:53, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
I guess it's best to revert it back to the DSOD characters since the dub's coming out in a month. [[User:Scheepybird|Scheepybird]] ([[User talk:Scheepybird|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Scheepybird|contribs]]) 17:41, December 29, 2016 (UTC)
==Shouldn't we update this already?==
Raging Tempest is already out in the TCG, so it should be listed here instead of Invasion, right?
I'd do it myself but I'm not entirely sure how....or if I'm authorized
:[[User:DreadKaiser|Dread]] ([[User talk:DreadKaiser|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DreadKaiser|contribs]]) 03:00, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
:That's just controlled by [[Template:Latest set]]; no one's bothered to create one for Raging Tempest yet (but anyone could if they wanted to). <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080;">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[wikipedia:Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 06:25, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
==Translated Name Inconsistencies==
Some cards with "デーモン" in their name have it translated as "Demon" and others have it translated as "Daemon". While they can be interchangeable, the formal definitions are different. In fantasy, they have different meanings with daemons being guiding spirits and demons being evil spirits or the Christian demons. Since they are the same archetype, the meaning should be consistent even though both are technically correct due to sharing a pronunciation. Considering that the first released card of the archetype (Summoned Skull) was used by Yami Yugi whose ace was Dark/Black Magician, I believe "Demon" would be the correct interpretation as well as the fact that most cards in the archetype appear to be related to evil spirits or Christian demons. I believe that we should change the translated names to match this, including Red Dragon Archfiend. Another problem I found when I was making edits was that the translated name on the main page doesn't match the name referenced in the trivia. This is also something that needs to be fixed. Consistency is important if we want it to be easy for people to understand.
[[User:Shugunou|Shugunou]] ([[User talk:Shugunou|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shugunou|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
:I can't find the discussion now (it may have happened off-wiki; I don't remember when we started using Skype, but if it was early enough for the discussion to have taken place there instead of on-wiki, that discussion can be considered lost), but translating "Archfiend" as "Daemon" was an intentional choice to distinguish デーモン ''Dēmon'' from 悪魔 ''Akuma'', back in 2013 (see e.g. [https://yugipedia.com/index.php?title=Summoned_Skull&diff=44169&oldid=44167 this edit] from the bot run I did at the time to apply this decision). I think this ''type'' of distinction for this particular case is probably a good thing, but don't have any real opinion on whether "Daemon" for "Archfiend" and "Demon" for "Akuma" are the best choices. Unless and until this gets revisited, and some other decision is made, though, pages should consistently use "Daemon" for Archfiends, and "Demon" for "Akuma".
:Can you better explain the issue on the main page? Which translated name are you talking about, and what trivia? <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080;">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 16:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
::I doubt distinguishing between デーモン ''Dēmon'' from 悪魔 ''Akuma'' was a factor in that decision. There are very many cases where some cards use a transliteration of an English word in their Japanese name, while others use a Japanese word with the same meaning. e.g. 魔術師 ''Majutsushi'' and マジシャン ''Majishan'' for "Magician". It was probably to distinguish between デーモン ''Dēmon'' and デモン ''Demon'', both of which are used in card names.
::Any times I'm aware of where we have gotten an "official" translation of the term have used "Demon". ''[[Revival of Black Demons Dragon]]'', "Red Demon's Dragon" (visible on the data in Yusei's visor) and [[Red Demon's Noodle]]. -- [[User:Deltaneos|Deltaneos]] ([[User talk:Deltaneos|talk]]) 21:08, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
== Proposed Change to Latest Sets Display ==
It's always bothered me how scrunched the latest sets look on the homepage, and (at least with my screen dimensions) how the Speed Duel set is just hanging out under all of the others. My proposal is to change them to display in a 4x2 style, with the English, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese on one layer, then the Duel Links, Rush Duels, and Speed Duel underneath. I think it would just look cleaner and avoid overcrowding, plus it's a clear distinction between the main TCG/OCG sets and the spinoffs. Any thoughts? [[User:Anti-Mattering|Anti-Mattering]] ([[User talk:Anti-Mattering|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anti-Mattering|contribs]]) 00:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:The current layout is responsive to different screen widths (you can preview this by resizing your browser window to change its width). It's not good practice to design pages around a particular screen resolution, especially these days when so much traffic is mobile. <span class="nowrap">「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#00f;">ディノ</span><span style="color:#080;">奴</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style="color:#F90;">千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|☎ Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 08:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
== "Content" sidebar out of date ==
How come the "Content" sidebar lists ''SEVENS'' instead of ''Go Rush!!'' ? Since ''Go Rush!!'' is the most recent series, it should be listed there, right?
Can someone who has the right permissions to do so please fix it?
[[User:Asterism343|Asterism343]] ([[User talk:Asterism343|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Asterism343|contribs]]) 01:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
