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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |<span style="color:white;">List of Reasons for Why Cards are [[January 2018 Lists (Duel Links)|<font color="#99CCFF">Forbidden/Limited</font>]] in [[Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links|<font color="#99CCFF">''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links''</font>]]</span>
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |<span style="color:white;">List of Reasons for Why Cards are [[October 2019 Lists (Duel Links)|<font color="#99CCFF">Forbidden/Limited</font>]] in [[Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links|<font color="#99CCFF">''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links''</font>]]</span>
 
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Limited|<span style="color:white;">Limited</span>]]
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Limited|<span style="color:white;">Limited 1</span>]]
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Cyber Petit Angel]]
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| Cyber Angels proved to be highly resilient even after hits to two of the deck's key cards, with a variant that made use of [[Saffira, Queen of Dragons]] (whose Ritual Spell provides similar protection to MAR) proving popular. A searcher for whatever combo piece the CA player needed. The resulting combo was too powerful for its time. Later moved up the list, which is a boost to CA as it lets them run it alongside Dakini and MAR.
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Dyna, Hero Fur Hire]]
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| Big power card of the Fur Hire deck. Searchable by [[Beat, Bladesman Fur Hire]], and easily Special Summoned from the hand by a good number of low-level Fur Hire monsters. Nullifies Graveyard setup on Summon. Must be at 1 because if 2 of them are out (a definite possibility in the Fur Hire deck), one can prevent their opponent from attacking at all, à la [[Marauding Captain]].
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|- style="background-color:#A086B7;"
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| [[Gem-Knight Lady Lapis Lazuli]]
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| Used as part of a powerful burn FTK, just as in the TCG. This was initially unwieldy, but became more and more viable with 3 copies of it available and [[Gem-Knight Master Diamond|Master Diamond]] to copy it, and access to [[Block Dragon]] to give the FTK more consistency seems to have been the final straw.
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| [[Invoked Cocytus]]
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| A defensive boss monster which is untargetable, indestructible, and extremely difficult to beat over (as discarding [[Aleister the Invoker|Aleister]] can give it 3900 DEF). Causes most Decks to require specific counters to get around it.
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Koa'ki Meiru Maximus]]
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| Boss monster of Koa'ki Meiru. Can be Summoned simply by banishing 1 Iron Core. Searchable by [[Diamond Core of Koa'ki Meiru|Diamond Core]]... which can then be banished from the Graveyard to prevent the self-destruction effect from going off. Can costlessly remove anything. The crux of Koa'ki Meiru's use as a fast OTK deck.
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|- style="background-color:#FF8B53;"
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| [[Vision HERO Vyon]]
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| Highly versatile in HERO decks, especially Destiny HERO. Sends a HERO monster straight from the Deck to the Graveyard, which synergises well with [[Destiny HERO - Celestial]]. Can also be used to search [[Polymerization]], which more often than not is a quick way to [[Destiny HERO - Dangerous]] given you likely will have another Destiny HERO in your hand. Is also a DARK [[Mask Change]] target, which allows an OTK with [[Masked HERO Anki]].
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| [[Woodland Sprite]]
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| Combined with the [[Bamboo Sword]] engine, this card easily caused FTKs as the player could rapidly draw through a whole Deck of Equip Cards. It was quickly hit after it was released, with Konami announcing they would look into the engine that enabled it as well - which they eventually did.
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| [[Golden Bamboo Sword]]
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| Combined with [[Broken Bamboo Sword]] and [[Cursed Bamboo Sword]] coming from the same pack, it made up a powerful draw engine allowing the player to draw through their Deck in a single turn. This enabled FTK strategies involving cards such as [[Woodland Sprite]] (also Limited) and [[Magical Citadel of Endymion]]. Was put to 1 in a second emergency banlist in a row.
 
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| [[Restructer Revolution]]
 
| [[Restructer Revolution]]
| "Téa Burn" decks comboed this with [[Cup of Ace]] (which would either stuff your hand or help them draw into their stronger cards) and [[Téa Gardner (Duel Links)|Téa]]'s skill "Duel, standby!" which added a card to each player's hand. Combined with other burn cards, this led to OTKs and made up the first truly hated deck archetype in Duel Links. Was the first card to be Limited.
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| 800 damage first turn isn't bad in an 8000 LP format, but with 4000 LP  it's devastating. "Téa Burn" decks comboed this with [[Cup of Ace]] (which would either stuff your hand or help them draw into their stronger cards) and [[Téa Gardner (Duel Links)|Téa]]'s skill "Duel, standby!" which added a card to each player's hand. Combined with other burn cards, this led to FTKs and made up the first truly hated deck archetype in Duel Links. Was the first card on the DL lists.
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| [[Amazoness Onslaught]]
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| Key card in Amazoness decks. Searched easily by [[Amazoness Princess]] and, when combined with [[Amazoness Queen]], can turn Amazoness into indestructible monsters that banish whatever they battle (and damage you for the trouble, in the case of [[Amazoness Swords Woman]]). Overall highly oppressive to the meta, which required other decks to use valuable space on pure backrow removal, such as [[Cosmic Cyclone]], to stand a chance. Decks were defined by how well they could play around Onslaught, rather than their own merits.
 
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| [[Champion's Vigilance]]
 
| [[Champion's Vigilance]]
| [[Legion the Fiend Jester|There]] [[Sage's Stone|are]] [[Kidmodo Dragon|far]] [[Kaibaman|too]] [[Ancient Rules|many]] [[Birthright|ways]] [[Blue Dragon Summoner|to]] [[Red-Eyes Spirit|bring]] [[Red-Eyes Insight|high-level]] [[Cards of the Red Stone|vanillas]] [[Red-Eyes Wyvern|out]]. Once you've got your high-level monster and copies of CV out, you can stop your opponent from doing pretty much anything. Limited at a time when Red-Eyes decks were topping easily.
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| [[Legion the Fiend Jester|There]] [[Sage's Stone|are]] [[Kidmodo Dragon|far]] [[Kaibaman|too]] [[Ancient Rules|many]] [[Birthright|ways]] [[Cosmo Brain|to]] [[Red-Eyes Spirit|bring]] [[Red-Eyes Insight|high-level]] [[Cards of the Red Stone|Normal]] [[Dragon Spirit of White|Monsters]] [[Red-Eyes Wyvern|out]]. Once you've got your high-level monster and copies of CV out, you can stop your opponent from doing pretty much anything. Hit at a time when Red-Eyes decks were topping easily.
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| [[Massivemorph]]
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| Powerful card in burn and stall decks. Regularly used in decks with minimal presence for monsters on the field, as it made a monster completely unable to attack in that situation, as well as a bigger target for [[Amazoness Swords Woman]]. Could even be copied by the Skill Extra, Extra for additional pain, before the nerf of that Skill.
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| [[The Sanctified Darklord]]
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| A key card in Darklord format. Negates a monster's effect and gains large amounts of LP. Can be copied by most Darklord monsters to be used multiple times in one turn. Turns a Duel into beatstick vs. beatstick (which Darklord usually win), and causes massive LP gain.
 
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Semi-Limited|<span style="color:white;">Semi-Limited</span>]]
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[Semi-Limited|<span style="color:white;">Limited 2</span>]]
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| [[Amazoness Princess]]
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| Offers an easy way to search [[Amazoness Onslaught]] (Limited), and pulls Queen directly from the Deck. Simply having this card in your opening hand provides serious advantage.
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| [[Amazoness Swords Woman]]
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| Used endlessly in stall and burn decks, as an opponent destroying it will take damage. Made up part of a near-universal stalling engine involving [[Amazoness Princess|Princess]] and [[Amazoness Onslaught|Onslaught]].
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| [[Assault Blackwing - Raikiri the Rain Shower]]
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| Easily made by searchable options in Blackwing Decks. Offers up to two destructions per Raikiri per turn, which due to the Deck's swarming capabilities can be achieved in multiples. Hit to lock Blackwing Decks out of the powerful staples.
 
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| [[Cyber Angel Dakini|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Angel Dakini</font>]]
 
| [[Cyber Angel Dakini|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Angel Dakini</font>]]
| <span style="color: white">At 3, this was far too powerful for the Duel Links meta. Easily searched, and easily summoned in its own deck (with the help of cards such as [[Cyber Petit Angel|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Petit Angel</font>]], the other Cyber Angels, [[Senju of the Thousand Hands|<font color="#99CCFF">Senju of the Thousand Hands</font>]], etc.). Non-destruction removal when it's summoned. Recycles Machine Angel Ritual (also Semi-Limited) at the end of the turn, effectively making the Limitation of MAR pointless. Even with MAR limited, Cyber Angels ran riot over the November 2017 KC Cup, to the point where the 7 most used card spots were taken up by the deck's key cards.</span>
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| <span style="color: white">At 3, this was far too powerful for the Duel Links meta. Easily searched, and easily summoned in its own deck (with the help of cards such as [[Cyber Petit Angel|<font color="#99CCFF">Cyber Petit Angel</font>]], the other Cyber Angels, [[Senju of the Thousand Hands|<font color="#99CCFF">Senju of the Thousand Hands</font>]], etc.). Non-destruction removal when it's summoned. Recycles Machine Angel Ritual (also at 2) at the end of the turn, effectively making the Limitation of MAR pointless. Even with MAR at 1, Cyber Angels ran riot over the November 2017 KC Cup, to the point where the 7 most used card spots were taken up by the deck's key cards.</span>
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| [[Donpa, Marksman Fur Hire]]
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| Key part of the Fur Hire deck, searchable by Beat and easily summoned by all the others. Gives easy destruction of an opponent face up card (usually a monster) when it's Summoned.
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| [[Hiro's Shadow Scout]]
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| Preemptively hit around the same time as the Sylvan, Masked D-HERO and Silent Swordsman hits to eliminate the threat of a certain Deck type becoming too prominent. Which Deck that is remains to be seen.
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| [[Invoked Magellanica]]
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| A huge beater (by discarding Aleister, it hits 4000 ATK). Easy to access using EARTH materials from the opponent's Graveyard. Hit to lock Invoked Decks out of the powerful staples.
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| [[Kiteroid]]
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| Protects a player from battle damage from direct attacks twice. Obviously a popular stall card, and useful in Decks with no field presence (whether they be waiting for a key combo piece, or adopting a burn strategy).
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| [[Legendary Six Samurai - Enishi]]
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| Offers non-destruction removal that is easily accessed in the Six Samurai deck. Easily found through [[Shien's Dojo]] or the destruction effect of [[Secret Six Samurai - Fuma]], meaning preventing your opponent from Synchro Summoning [[Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En]] wouldn't stop the opponent from OTKing or shutting you down. Hit after consecutive formats of unchallenged Six Samurai dominance.
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| [[Rose Lover]]
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| Very powerful utility card in Plant decks. Most notably used in Sylvans, where it was easily sent to the Graveyard by all of the archetype's cards, as well as [[World Carrotweight Champion]], and then used to summon a larger Sylvan and set up OTK boards.
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| [[Wiz, Sage Fur Hire]]
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| Strong card in Fur Hires. Searchable with Beat and Summonable quickly after that. Can negate a card every turn, which can either disrupt an opponent's play or nullify defensive backrow, making it very difficult to avoid being OTK'd.
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| [[Assault Armor]]
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| A card that gave consistency to the [[Silent Sword Slash]] OTK. Put to 2 to stop it from becoming overpowering.
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| [[Concentrating Current]]
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| Popular OTK card. Could be used in Invoked Decks to make an attacking [[Invoked Cocytus]] (Limited) into an 4700 ATK beater.
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| [[Cup of Ace]]
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| 50/50 chance to draw 2 cards. Often used in stall and burn decks, but later became busted with the skill Master of Destiny, which turns it into a Pot of Greed.
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| [[Darklord Contact]]
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| A revival card that can be copied to be used multiple times per turn... which produces more Darklords to copy more copies of this card (or give fuel for [[The Sanctified Darklord]]).
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| [[Enemy Controller]]
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| Highly versatile competitive staple that fits right into most deck types. First effect can slow down the Duel, while second effect can end a Duel quickly by leaving the foe open for direct attacks.
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| [[Hey, Trunade!]]
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| Non-destructive backrow removal. About as powerful in Duel Links as [[Giant Trunade]] was in the TCG. Only contributed more to Amazoness dominance, as Onslaught could simply be flipped face-up and not be affected by this card.
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| [[Iron Core of Koa'ki Meiru]]
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| The card that Koa'kis need to function. Searchable by [[Diamond Core of Koa'ki Meiru|Diamond Core]]. Can re-add itself to the hand every single turn. Part of the Summoning condition of Maximus (Limited). Freed as Diamond Core was hit, then came back in its place.
 
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| [[Machine Angel Ritual]]
 
| [[Machine Angel Ritual]]
| Cyber Angel cards were first added in the GX update, and to say that they were overpowered is an understatement, as the deck shot immediately to Tier 0 status. Makes Cyber Angels much harder to destroy. Initially Limited, but now CA decks effectively have to choose between 1 MAR + 1 Dakini or 2 of one of them. This helps to limit the deck's devastating power.
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| Cyber Angel cards were first added in the GX update, and to say that they were overpowered is an understatement, as the deck shot immediately to Tier 0 status. Makes Cyber Angels much harder to destroy. Initially at 1, but now CA decks effectively have to choose between 1 MAR + 1 Dakini or 2 of one of them. This helps to limit the deck's devastating power.
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| [[Neos Fusion]]
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| A one-card engine. Lets the player dump whatever Effect Monster they want in the Graveyard to Special Summon [[Elemental HERO Brave Neos]], then another copy is searched by that Brave Neos. Popular generic options for the Effect Monster included [[Bacon Saver]] for attack negation, or [[A/D Changer]] to weaken beaters with low DEF. Powered up all kinds of Decks, until its interaction with [[Invoked]] was likely judged to be the final straw.
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| [[Secret Pass to the Treasures]]
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| Key card in the [[Silent Sword Slash]] OTK, along with [[Assault Armor]] (above). Its only other real use is in farming decks, of which the vast majority don't run more than 1.
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| [[Shien's Dojo]]
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| Key card in Six Samurais. Getting this out and then Normal Summoning a Level 4 Six Samurai gives immediate access to [[Secret Six Samurai - Fuma]], which leads to [[Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En]] and its powers of negation. No once-per-turn restriction means running multiples could lead to multiple copies of Shi En in a single turn.
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| [[Silent Sword Slash]]
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| Extreme boost in power and protection for any Silent Swordsman, and searches on top of that. Was previously used to OTK. Hit in anticipation of the release of a Structure Deck focusing on [[Silent Swordsman]], which would have become far too powerful with this at 3.
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| [[Spellbook of Fate]]
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| Important versatile card in Spellbook decks. Searchable by most of the other cards in the deck. Offers non-targeting removal of most threats during either player's turn. Banishing Spellbooks from your Graveyard also allows them to be revived through [[Spellbook of Eternity]].
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| [[World Legacy Clash]]
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| Generic Quick-Play Spell with a variety of benefits. Temporarily removes your monster, but permanently cripples the opponent's. Can also be used to avoid your opponent's cards that would destroy or weaken your monster. Most potent in Decks that can make high ATK monsters easily, such as Six Samurai, Darklords, and most Neos variants.
 
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| [[Red-Eyes Spirit]]
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| [[Pulse Mines]]
| Very powerful revival card that combos well with [[Red-Eyes Insight]] and/or [[Cards of the Red Stone]]. Can revive Red-Eyes monsters during the Battle Phase so they can attack again, leading to some nasty OTKs. Limited to curb the spread of identikit Red-Eyes decks.
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| Better than [[Windstorm of Etaqua]] in Machine decks, because it stops the opponent from attacking at all for a whole turn, enabling setup of complex strategies. Hit due to heavy use in Geargias.
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| [[Treacherous Trap Hole]]
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| Powerful removal that can shut down an opponent's play. Not even playing only one monster will keep you safe, as it can remove the user's monster as well. The downside (requiring no Trap Cards in the Graveyard) is immaterial to several decks that don't use many Traps anyway, such as HEROes and Spellbooks.
 
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! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[No longer on list|<span style="color:white;">No longer on list</span>]]
 
! style="font-size: 150%; background-color:black;" colspan=3 class="mainheader" |[[No longer on list|<span style="color:white;">No longer on list</span>]]
 
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| None yet.
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| [[Amazoness Baby Tiger]]
| None yet.
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| Aids the Amazoness in swarming by Special Summoning itself from the Graveyard, and adds a free tribute for [[Amazoness Queen]] if necessary. Evidently, the ability to run 3 of these along with 2 Onslaught was too powerful. Brought back after Onslaught's Limiting ended the dominance of that deck.
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| [[Destiny HERO - Celestial]]
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| Key combo maker in Masked D-HERO decks. Synergises very well with [[Vision HERO Vyon]] (at 1). Also acts as removal and burn in some situations. Came off the list as D-HERO based decks are no longer considered much of a threat.
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| [[Samurai Skull]]
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| Has been a staple in any Deck that uses Zombies, for a long time. Dumps whatever Zombie you want in the Graveyard. Was initially seen as a budget alternative to [[Gozuki]] in Red-Eyes Zombie decks, but really came into its own in Vampires, where it was usually used to dump [[Vampire Retainer]], which then searched [[Vampire Kingdom]] when Special Summoned. Was hit to help diversify the meta, and once that was achieved, came back.
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| [[Sylvan Marshalleaf]]
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| Key card in Sylvans. Easy monster removal when placed in the Graveyard by the other Sylvan cards, causing OTKs in some cases and powerful boards in most others. Placed on the list to promote deck diversity, as Sylvans were proving overwhelmingly popular in PvP. Nowadays, though, they're much too slow to function, especially with Rose Lover still at 2.
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| [[Diamond Core of Koa'ki Meiru]]
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| Searches any Koa'ki Meiru card, including the Limited [[Koa'ki Meiru Maximus|Maximus]]. No once per turn restriction. Was used to easily protect a full field of Koa'ki Meiru monsters from destruction, making a beatdown strategy involving them viable. Was hit in place of Iron Core when Koa'kis were judged to be too powerful, then switched back in a meta where they were much weaker.
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| [[Spellbook of Eternity]]
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| Key part of any Spellbook deck. Allows the user to recur a banished [[Spellbook of Fate]] (at 2), or [[Spellbook of Secrets]] or any other Spellbook card that was banished to activate Fate's non-targeting banish. Limited to help diversify the meta, but came back as Spellbooks were power-crept.
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| [[Red-Eyes Spirit]]
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| Red-Eyes' revival card and key enabler of the Red-Eyes boom that turned most Duel Links duels into dittos. Combos well with [[Red-Eyes Insight]] and/or [[Cards of the Red Stone]]. Can revive Red-Eyes monsters during the Battle Phase so they can attack again, leading to some nasty OTKs. Dropped off the list because the deck isn't anywhere near as good in the current meta, especially with [[Champion's Vigilance]] still at 1.
 
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[[User:VictoryViperXX03|VictoryViperXX03]] ([[User talk:VictoryViperXX03|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/VictoryViperXX03|contribs]]) 22:31, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 18:28, 5 December 2019

This was created so that people didn't need to wonder why cards were limited in Duel Links. Yes, the table is taken from the OCG/TCG reasons page. No, it really doesn't matter.

Remember, Duel Links handles the F+L list very differently:

  • You can only have 1 Limited card overall in your deck.
  • You can only have 2 Semi-Limited cards overall in your deck.