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| | == OKAY I AM JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE == | | == OKAY I AM JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE == |
| − | '''JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW! YUGI WOULD WIN NO DOUBT AND SECOND WOULD BE JADEN! | + | '''JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW! YUGI WOULD WIN NO DOUBT AND SECOND WOULD BE JADEN! I HATE YUSEI HE IS A QUEER |
| | WHO THINKS HE IS COOL BECUASE HE CAN PLAY CARDS ON A MOTOR CYCLE SOOOO COOL!! (that was sarcasm about the | | WHO THINKS HE IS COOL BECUASE HE CAN PLAY CARDS ON A MOTOR CYCLE SOOOO COOL!! (that was sarcasm about the |
| | "cool" part.''' yugi would win because he has the 3 egyption god cards and he also has the CREATOR OF LIGHT | | "cool" part.''' yugi would win because he has the 3 egyption god cards and he also has the CREATOR OF LIGHT |
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| − | Jaden got Bubbleman (Speicial summon plus draw 2 card), Honest (easy gg), and Neo God(unstoppable due tv show battle of monster). In Tv show style of dueling, they don't use effect card to blow up thing.[[Special:Contributions/74.88.85.185|74.88.85.185]] ([[User talk:74.88.85.185|talk]]) 18:07, November 16, 2012 (UTC) | + | Jaden got Bubbleman (Speicial summon plus draw 2 card), Honest (easy gg), and Neo God(unstoppable due tv show battle of monster). In Tv show style of dueling, they don't use effect card to blow up thing. |
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| | :I think Yugi is intended to be a better strategist than Yusei, if the movie is anything to show.--[[Special:Contributions/50.1.51.169|50.1.51.169]] ([[User talk:50.1.51.169|talk]]) 22:37, October 3, 2012 (UTC) | | :I think Yugi is intended to be a better strategist than Yusei, if the movie is anything to show.--[[Special:Contributions/50.1.51.169|50.1.51.169]] ([[User talk:50.1.51.169|talk]]) 22:37, October 3, 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | In real life i think 100% yusei will win against jaden and atem. yusei can summon any-number of synchro monsters on the field or attack multiple monsters in a single turn and can create an OTK or FTK that strategy atem and jaden can't never do on their decks. jaden has full of fusion spell's super polymerization can only have 3 copies don't you dare there are many yusei cards that can destroy it while it is face down but yusei's spell is not the same as jaden and jaden trap's are weak compared to the traps of yusei and yugi's deck is very slow to summon more monsters compare to yusei so it's impossible that yugi can defeat yusei. yugi has many card effects than destroy's cards but stardust can negate them and it will become more strong when he become stardust/assaultmode you can negate any cards so yusei is the best and better. | + | In real life i think 100% yusei will win against jaden and atem. In anime i don't know is up to kazuki takahashi who he want's to win now that settles. |
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| − | In anime i don't know is up to kazuki takahashi who he want's to win now that settles. | |
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| | (Real life-Yusei for the win. Anime-I don't know.) | | (Real life-Yusei for the win. Anime-I don't know.) |
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| − | I haven't watched yu-gi-oh in a long time, but im pretty sure jaden would win then yugi then yusei. I don't think yusei really ever fought in 5ds. Yugi only plays a little so she would never beat jaden in a duel.
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| − | First, it would depend what part of the series they're in. Since Jaden is going to Duel Academy throughout GX, I doubt he would win if it were Jaden at the start, but he'd probably hold out well if he was at the end of the series. Similarly, if Yugi were at Duelist Kingdom point when this happened, he wouldn't stand a chance, as Duelist Kingdom was just a bunch of insane, made-up moves. Battle City or past it, he would most likely hold out well. Also, we never learn the outcome of Yugi and Jaden's duel in the GX finale. However, with Yusei in the mix, it would be hard for them, as they are fighting a future deck("Synchro-What?"), and wouldn't have counters for Synchros, but if they could stop Yusei from swarming the field, then Yusei probably would have a much harder time. Also, what cards they have will matter as well. First, we should talk about the cards they wouldn't be caught dead without. Yugi has his Dark Magician, a powerful monster, but the tributes are something to think about, as with Yusei's swarming, it would be hard for Yugi to gain the two monsters needed to summon his Dark Magician, and also, even then, nothing could stop Jaden or Yusei from using an effect to destroy it, as Dark Magician is just a normal monster. The tributes problem should also be considered for the God Cards, if he has them. Also, Slifer requires hand control, and since Yugi is facing 2 at once, he may not be able to keep up the hand count to support Slifer. Obelisk is probably the best bet on God Cards, but even then, the right monsters could defeat it, such as God NEOS, as Jaden could use it's ability to make it stronger than Obelisk, especially with Flame Scarab, which can have it's ability being more useful for ATK gain to God NEOS, due to having 2 opponents. Back to the Gods, Ra is also a tough one to talk about, since it has many abilities, such as it's ATK being the sum of the monsters Yugi tributes, which means Yugi would need the right monsters to survive, but then the ATK-LP transfer is another difficult decision, as then a direct damage effect would remove him from the game. Jaden also has a variety of cards he couldn't be seen dead without. As mentioned before, God NEOS is a good choice. Jaden's Fusion-based deck does allow a variety of choices for him, so he could be prepared to counter many moves, for example, if he used Skyscraper, it could be easy to destroy Stardust and Dark Magician with either Flame Wingman or NEOS, and then the added damage from Flame Wingman would be enough to nearly defeat Yusei and Yugi in one shot. Also, let's say Jaden was still allowed his Pot Of Greed, then that would be extra drawing power, giving him easier Contact Fusions for NEOS, or better Fusion Material for normal E-HEROS as well. And of course, Winged Kuriboh, a card that could help Jaden stall, and he could even use the Winged Kuriboh LV 10 to trick whoever attacks it. And finally, Yusei. His Stardust is easy for him to play, but counters for it have already been brought up, so it may not work as well as it usually does. And the various tuners he has are powerful with their swarm effects, which allow me to look into a hypothetical scenario, let's say Yusei was able to get a God from Yugi into his hand(pretend the Egyptian incarnation stuff doesn't work in this case), his swarm effects would make it easy to gain the tributes for it, of course, it would depend on what God he used. If Yusei played Ra, it wouldn't work out, as he swarms with weak monsters. If Yusei used Slifer, it would be difficult to decide, as Yusei appears to switch between drawing power, and discarding from the hand. If Yusei played Obelisk, it would be his best bet, as it comes with high power instantly, and it doesn't weaken either, and the swarming can be a perfect compliment to Obelisk's ability to sacrifice 2 monsters and destroy every monster the opponents control, and inflict 4000 damage. And also, the Scrap-Iron Scarecrow is a very useful card, as he can block once per turn with it.
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| − | Despite all these, it would really be who draws the best cards at the best times, and makes the best choices. (And my Yusei+God idea is just waiting for a fanfic now, isn't it?)--[[Special:Contributions/85.210.210.31|85.210.210.31]] ([[User talk:85.210.210.31|talk]]) 21:11, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
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| − | With the criteria, I'd have to vote Yusei. However, that's a statement that reflects nothing of character skill. Quite frankly, the farther in the series you go, the better cards get, the more easily you can use cards (granted they also become less flexible, as most cards are very specialized) and the more old strategies become obsolete. However, Yugi and Jaden are both far more skilled than Yusei. Yes, I just said Yami is skilled. Everybody should re-watch Yugi vs Seto Kaiba in the finals of Battle City. Unlike a lot of other duels, that wasn't topdecking or godhanding, that was being CREATIVE. Even after the gods simultaneously destroyed each other, Yugi was left with a less than decent hand and managed to pull a great play against Kaiba's really powerful hand. While Jaden shows a mid-to-high level of skill across the board, especially starting when his Neo-Spacians were introduced, Yami has shown a level of experience and planning that clearly outclasses Jaden and Yusei. With their current Decks? Yusei. If Yugi and Jaden were able to reconstruct their Decks with new cards, however, I think Yugi would win.
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| − | [[Special:Contributions/65.78.161.239|65.78.161.239]] ([[User talk:65.78.161.239|talk]]) 23:48, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
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| − | 1-yusei uses tuner monster witch jaden and yugi have no experience in
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| − | 3-yugi has the 3 egyption god cards witch are very powerful
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| − | 4-in terms of effect monsters they all have a wide variety witch can help them out
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| − | 5-in terms of trap cards yusei and jaden clearly have more thus have an advantage
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| − | 6-looking at there trump cards (dark magician, E.H neos & stardust dragon) yusei's monster would win with its effect in a head on battle between the 3 , however this is not certain because of all the specially designed cards for dark magician and E.H neos
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| − | 7-no when it comes to power monsters yugi would win as his egyptian god cards have high attack points (don't recall yusei or jaden having a monster with 4000atk points)
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| − | 8-strategy wise
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| − | jaden uses more of a counter battle style (using effect cards that help boost , save or gain new monsters e.g "a hero emegance")
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| − | 9-as i said before jaden and yugi do not no of tuner monsters and don't really have
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| − | jaden has the advantage with his contact fusion as like yusei there is no way to counter it but if some how his neos was removed from play this would put him at a disadvantage also
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| − | yugi's deck does not contain the new type of cards (sencro & contact fusion) so he would be at a disadvantage however the advantage to this is there is no way to cripple his game play (except by removing his trump card from play)
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| − | 10-and the best reason for it ending in a draw is that lets face it you wouldn't really want just one of them to win (lol gonna get all deep on you now) see if just
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| − | 1 of them had to win it would mean only 1 style was right and that the other styles other cards other combinations are wrong and lets face it thats what makes the game amazing the fact that there are so many different styles , combos and cards
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| − | anyway thats just my top 10 opinions on why it would be a DRAW [[Special:Contributions/41.132.87.247|41.132.87.247]] ([[User talk:41.132.87.247|talk]]) 23:12, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == definitely jaden ==
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| − | Consider it yami decks is good with little reliance on
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| − | Not indestructible as everyone thinks they're a bit
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| − | Overated actually. Yugi moto deck wouldn't stand
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| − | A chance and don't go on about exodia the
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| − | Chance of drawing them is minimal same with yamis
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| − | Ad for yuesi deck it good but the synchro monsters
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| − | He just doesn't have enough skill
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